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Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison?

Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour is being imprisoned in an all-women security ward in northern Israel.

By Yoav Haifawi

Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour (right) seen with MK Haneen Zoabi in Nazareth Magistrate's Court after the former is sentenced to five months, including time served, for a poem she wrote on Facebook. (Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour (right) seen with MK Haneen Zoabi in Nazareth Magistrate’s Court after the former is sentenced to five months, including time served, for a poem she wrote on Facebook. (Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

The Israel Prison Services (IPS) are preventing Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour, who was sentenced last month to five months imprisonment for incitement to violence, from receiving family visits, say her family members.

Tatour, who was convicted over poems and statuses she published on her personal Facebook page, was sent to a special ward for Palestinian women security prisoners in Damoun Prison on August 8th. Female security prisoners — as all Palestinian security prisoners — have no right to a telephone, no access to social workers that may help to handle sensitive personal problems, and do not undergo a rehabilitation process to prepare them for life after prison. Even meetings with attorneys must be held through a glass partition.

Tatour, 36, hails from the village of Reineh near Nazareth. She was arrested on October 15, 2015 after publishing a number of poems on her Facebook page, including “Qawem Ya Sha’abi, Qawemhum” (“Resist my people, resist them”).

That poem was published in 2015 (read an English translation here) at the height of Palestinian protests across Israel and the West Bank and during a wave of so-called lone-wolf stabbing and vehicular attacks against Israeli security forces and civilians, largely in Jerusalem and Hebron.

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She spent three months in jail before being placed under house arrest. Tatour’s house arrest, which began in January 2016, included various restrictions. At first she was held at her brother’s home who lives in Kiryat Ono, a suburb of Tel Aviv. Only after a legal struggle was she permitted to return to her parents’ home in Reineh, near Nazareth. Her family was forced to disconnect the internet at home, and Dareen was forbidden from using the computer. For months she was forced to walk around with an ankle monitor.

Her case drew international attention, including a global campaign for her release. In July 2016, over 150 literary icons, including Alice Walker and Dave Eggers, signed a letter in solidarity with Tatour, calling Tatour’s imprisonment “part of a larger pattern of Israeli repression against all Palestinians.” Over 1,000 Israelis signed a petition in August 2017 demanding she be freed.

Damoun Prison is located on Mount Carmel, in a place that served before 1948 as a tobacco warehouse for the Palestinian Karaman family. In 2000 the Israel Prisons Authority admitted that Damoun was not suitable for human habitation and shut it down. However, shortly after the outbreak of the Second Intifada that same year, Damoun was reopened as a prison for incarcerating “illegal aliens” — Palestinians from the occupied West Bank who cross the separation wall without a permit in search of work. Later on, more Palestinian prisoners were brought to Damoun, including a new special section for female prisoners.

Tawfiq Tatour, father of Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour, who was arrested and put under house arrest, demonstrates for her release at Jaffa's Clock Tower Square, June 26, 2016. (photo: Haim Schwarczenberg)

Tawfiq Tatour, father of Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour, who was arrested and put under house arrest, demonstrates for her release at Jaffa’s Clock Tower Square, June 26, 2016. (photo: Haim Schwarczenberg)

Tawfiq Tatour, Dareen’s father, says that when Dareen entered the detention center, he entered with her, bringing along a bag of clothes that she had prepared in advance. After Dareen was taken away, the guards told him to wait until they checked the bag. After a long wait, they returned the bag full and swollen. He does not know which contents, if at all, were allowed in.

Tawfiq recounted how after Dareen’s initial arrest in October 2015, when she was taken from her home in the middle of the night without any extra clothes, she spent many days under interrogation before the family was allowed to bring in clothes. But now, as she entered prison after being sentenced, they did not expect that such a basic issue like having proper clothes would be a problem.

Visits to security prisoners, the family was informed, can only be arranged by fax. They should submit the visitors’ names and wait for approval. For “security” prisoners only first-degree relatives are allowed to apply for permission to visit. Dareen’s father told me how he sent a request for a visit and received a negative answer: “She does not deserve a visit.” Again, no explanation was given. Several additional requests were not answered at all.

On August 22, Tawfiq drove to Damoun, despite knowing he could not visit Dareen, hoping, at least, to be allowed to deliver some clothes. The guard at the gate refused his request, as well as his request to speak to the officer in charge.

Prior to the publication of this article, we sent several queries to the IPS. They stated that “according to the Prisons Service Ordinance, it is permitted to authorize visits to convicted prisoners at the end of three months from the day they enter the prison.” Lawyers who are familiar with the issue from their routine work say that this is not the usual practice and that visits usually start around two weeks after the prisoner begins serving of the sentence.

Yoav Haifawi covered the Dareen Tatour trial and more on his blog, Free Haifa.

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      • Ido

        Total nonsense. Authorized visits to convicted prisoners begin at the end of the first 3 months, it’s posted on the prisoner’s rights webpage.
        Posted the link in the Facebook comments section.

        The article is lying. The people they asked are lying. The writer didn’t perform a basic journalistic check like looking up the rules themselves. Now that’s journalistic integrity.

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        • Ben

          Again with the mindless misuse of the attack word “lying.”

          And this from someone who plays dumb (we hope he’s not truly that easily duped but you never know?) by pretending to be a concrete literalist of limited capacity who does not realize the obvious possibility contained in the basic distinction the write makes between formal rules and usual practice: that the prison service may publish a rule but routinely not stick to that rule unless it wants to punish a particular person, in this case, this political prisoner and her family; so uses a selective application of the rules. You’re putting me on—this really never occurred to you?

          I mean, be honest, this possibility never truly occurred to you?

          Again and again we find you making statements that lead to a question which is going to turn out badly for you whether you answer “yes” or “no.” How does that happen?

          “Yes” (it occurred to you): then it is you who are a kind of liar, are you not?
          “No”: (it did not occur to you): Sad!

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          • Ido

            Are you that stupid ? what’s with you and ignoring facts ?
            And I quote again: “Who is eligible? A civilian prisoner who has completed three months of imprisonment can receive visitors in prison.”

            Is this too complex for you to grasp ?

            So you’re saying it’s not lying and just basic ignorance and lack of journalistic integrity ? fine with me.

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          • Ido

            Please, by all means, bring me evidence when Israel didn’t uphold the 3 months law and we can compare the situation based on actual facts.

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          • Ben

            Whenever we catch you doing something not very smart, shooting yourself in the foot yet again, as we clearly did here (oh, did we!) again and again your response is to call *us* stupid. It really is amusing. (The clearest projection. And I don’t use psychological jargon trivially.)

            Then you double down on the same losing tactic: a specious literalism about “facts” which you pretend you have more of than I do. You do not. You have one fact: the published prison rules. I have one report by a journalist that the usual practice, based on experienced lawyers’ observations, is something quite different than the published rule, and that there appears to be selective application of the rules to punish a political prisoner and her family. Now, you no more know that is true or false than I do. (The demonstrable authenticity and integrity of the Magazine argues strongly against it being false, IMO. But that is beside the point here.) But you think that on that basis you can say the writer is “lying” or “lacks journalistic integrity” when you actually, as a matter of fact, do not have any basis to say that. Zero basis. Zilch.

            Then you think you’re being extra smart (LoL) by demanding that *I* prove that the usual practice is the usual practice! But I don’t have to prove that. What I proved is that you are not very bright (because you responded “No” to the question I posed).

            But here is the really funny thing. You kind of answered “Yes” too, in an insinuating way. In the relentlessly slippery way you have, you kind of answered and didn’t answer both “Yes” and “No.” Which makes you a kind of not very bright liar. You probably won’t get this. I don’t care if you don’t get it or you pretend that you don’t get it. Plenty of others who read this will.

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          • Ido

            Again: the rule say specifically 3 months. Again: this is why she wasn’t receiving visitors.
            Twist it as much as you want, lie as much as you want, the facts are not going to change.
            “there appears to be selective application of the rules to punish” – I ask again, second time: bring me evidence when Israel didn’t uphold the 3 months law and we can compare the situation based on actual facts.

            “Then you think you’re being extra smart (LoL) by demanding that *I* prove that the usual practice is the usual practice” – nope, not what I said. This is you lying again. I asked you to bring me an example proving your claim after I provided proof proving mine.

            “What I proved is that you are not very bright” – what I just proved is that you’re a liar who has no idea what he’s talking about.

            “in an insinuating way” – right, asking you to back up your claims so we can discuss them like I backed mine is way out of line. Preposterous.

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          • Ben

            Ido, you’re so clearly out of your league. And have to resort to extra chicanery to mask that fact. As with the post before it, nothing in this latest post does anything to mitigate the fallacies and deceptions you were caught trafficking. It is only bluster meant to obscure it.

            You’re doubling down, obstinately, on the already demonstratedly false tactic of demanding the author and/or I prove the “usual practice” observation of the author. “Bring me evidence,” you say. I do not have to bring you evidence. This is a false issue, a diversionary tactic.

            Because: on the face of it, calling Yoav Haifawi a liar simply because he has not brought you, Judge Ido, evidence beyond his reporting based on his sources, is clearly illogical and unjustified, and rather nasty. It is not even *logical* never mind honest to call Haifawi or me a liar in this context.

            Now, since you won’t acknowledge this totally elementary principle there is nothing more to say. It is just bizarre that you throw out sneers such as “Is this too complex for you to grasp?,” when it is you who plainly do not grasp, or pretend not to grasp, something this elementary.

            Once again, you end up so many times making statements that lead to a question that turns out badly for you whether you answer “yes” or “no” — and you then end up dealing with that by slithering out of the dilemma by assiduously ignoring it and giving a non-answer, as you plainly did here. The trail you have left here is plain to see.

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          • Ido

            “you’re so clearly out of your league” – yes, asking you to provide facts like I did is me being “out of my league”. Said by the liar who has no idea what he’s talking about most of the time as I prove very, very clearly over and over and over again on this lovely site.
            “prove the “usual practice” observation of the author” – I simply stated a fact: the time is 3 months. That’s it. That’s the law.
            “I do not have to bring you evidence” – yes why on earth will you back your claims with proof like I do ? hell, I’ll take your word for it.
            “because he has not brought you” – nope, because as it’s clearly stated, the rules in question are openly posted. See the link I provided.
            “throw out sneers such as” – because the rules are very, very specific and easy to read.
            “and giving a non-answer” – this is very, very simple: there will be no visitors until the 3 months time because that is the rule for prisoners of her status. That’s it. Squirm around it flailing your arms as much as you like, that is not going to change.

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          • Ben

            “I simply stated a fact.” Yeah. That’s what you did. To no discernible effect. You’re like a baseball player who keeps striking out in three pitches, can’t understand why he’s sent back to the minor leagues, and keeps muttering to himself “this is very, very simple, why don’t they appreciate me?”

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          • Ido

            Keep banging your head in the wall, let’s see if the fact I stated, the 3 months wait period, is going to change. Still waiting for you to back up your claims with evidence like I did with mine.

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          • Ben

            “let’s see if the fact I stated, the 3 months wait period, is going to change”

            Now we moved beyond baseball metaphors to something even more concrete and simple-minded, to the point of caricature. Really, you are precious. You remind me of a guy pushing fifty times on the exit door and still not realizing that the sign says “Pull.”

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          • Ido

            Did the 3 months wait period changed ? nope. So to answer the title of the article: “Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison?” – no.
            Still waiting for you to back up your claims with evidence like I did with mine.

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          • Ben

            Keep pushing! Never give up! [chuckle]

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          • Ido

            So now did the 3 months wait period changed ? no. Odd. Maybe if you wish very hard for it it’ll change. Don’t give up.
            So to answer the title of the article: “Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison?” – nope.
            Still waiting for you to back up your claims with evidence like I did with mine.

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          • Ben

            Once again, Ido Geller thinks we can’t read! And he apparently also thinks that we think that HE can’t read either! ==>

            Ben: And this from someone [Ido Geller] who plays dumb…by pretending to be a concrete literalist of limited capacity who does not realize the obvious possibility contained in the basic distinction the write makes between formal rules and usual practice: that the prison service may publish a rule but routinely not stick to that rule unless it wants to punish a particular person, in this case, this political prisoner and her family; so uses a selective application of the rules. You’re putting me on—this really never occurred to you?
            I mean, be honest, this possibility never truly occurred to you?

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          • Ido

            Again: and I asked you to provide examples of said ‘usual practice’ so we can see the distinction. You made the claim, you back it up. Again: I provided the rule which is applied in this specific case, not invented, not made up, but a very real one.
            “You’re putting me on—this really never occurred to you?” – why do you think I asked you to back up your claim ? I did mine. Maybe the non usual practice cases weren’t ones involving incitement for Jew murder during the “knife Intifadah” ? by a woman who supports the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews ?
            Again: to answer the title of the article: “Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison?” – no.

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          • Ben

            So, put on the spot, Ido finally, but only implicitly, admits that he knows that the usual practice is not being followed here and he knew it all along, and now admits that the non-usual practice is being implemented because she is a political prisoner. (See “a haiku for you” and “Another poem for the dishonest,” below.)

            Ido still entirely sidesteps the logical flaw in his entire gambit: To call Yoav Haifawi a “liar” based on his reporting what experienced lawyers in the matter told him is ILLOGICAL and UNJUSTIFIED on the face of it. Because Ido has no evidence whatsoever that Haifawi is reporting something false never mind knowingly reporting something false. And Ido tries to mask this failure by trying to turn the rules of evidence upside down and demanding that I prove that Haifawi is not misinformed or else Haifawi is “a liar.” This is and always has been transparently bogus. Ido will never admit this, but the problem Ido has is that…we can read!

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          • Ido

            “admits that he knows that the usual practice is not being followed here” – not what I said, liar. Again: I asked you to provide examples of said ‘usual practice’ so we can see the distinction. Let’s see the ‘usual practice’ you claim. You made the claim, you back it up.
            Again: I provided the rule which is applied in this case. Israel is not forbidding family visits, do you understand ? the title of this article. Is this too complicated for you ?
            “now admits that the non-usual practice is being implemented because she is a political prisoner” – nope, didn’t say this. You’re a liar.
            “See “a haiku for you” and “Another poem for the dishonest,”” – see my response if this site finally decided to post it.
            “ILLOGICAL and UNJUSTIFIED” – nope. It simply follows the visitors rule. I only explained this 841 times now so I get why it still eludes you.
            “Haifawi is reporting something false” – Again: Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison? no. Do you understand ? how is this so difficult for you to grasp ?
            “demanding that I prove that Haifawi is not misinformed” – nope, I asked you to provide evidence regarding what you claimed, ‘the usual practice’. I asked about 4 times now. Why are you lying about this as well ?

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          • Ben

            Truly amazing to watch the squirming, metamorphosing pathology of these responses of Ido’s. So, tactically, Ido is now stooping to chopping up what I write into meaningless little pieces and pretending to answer the pieces. His problem, as ever, is that…we can read!

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          • Ido

            Amazing to watch you lie again and again. Ignoring what I actually post again and again.
            “do is now stooping to chopping up” – nope, I simply point exactly where you lied, where you said idiotic nonsense and how you repeatedly fail to provide evidence for you claims. The usual.

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          • Ben

            Buck up junior. Maybe someday all of us here will have a magical group malady that wipes out all our abilities to read and then you’ll be able to get away with your ramifying nonsense. There’s always hope. Honestly you remind me of the guy in the old Jewish proverb who ate the stinking fish, got beaten up and was chased out of town.

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          • Ido

            Again: I asked you to provide examples of said ‘usual practice’ you claim exist so we can see the distinction. You made the claim, you back it up. Again: I provided the rule which is applied in this specific case, not invented, not made up, but a very real one.
            Again: to answer the title of the article: “Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison?” – nope.
            Again: you ignored the posts where I point out your lies, very, very clearly. Where you were wrong, how you refuse to provide evidence for your claims like I did with mine.
            Honestly you remind me of the guy who keeps lying and ignores posts over and over again and refuse to back up his claims with actual evidence.

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          • Ben

            “Again….”

            Yup.

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          • Ido

            That’s an interesting way to address my posts and provide the evidence for your claims.

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    1. john

      only authoritarians are triggered by poetry.

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      • Ido

        Yes, the fact that it was incitement for violence against Jews during a time when Jews were stabbed almost daily is pure coincidence. Her support for a Jihadist terrorist organization who calls for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews and see all of Israel as “Palestine” just like her is also unrelated.

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        • john

          a haiku for you:

          palestinians
          are by nature violent
          liars who hate jews.

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          • Ido

            A fact for you: Palestinian woman sent to jail on incitement for violence charges during a time when Jews were stabbed almost daily. Other poets who didn’t post poems calling to follow the footsteps of Jew murderers were not charged. She openly supports a terrorist organization who calls for the elimination of Israel and the wholesale slaughter of Jews and like them she considers all of Israel, Sea to the River, as “Palestine”.

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          • Ben

            Another poem for the dishonest:

            “A fact for you”

            Persons who think a political thought about Palestine,
            That I don’t like,
            Should be locked up.
            And remember, the prison rule book says three months no visit!
            So there!
            Meanwhile, let us chant
            And exploit the Holocaust unconscionably,
            Because anything is permitted
            In furtherance of Greater Israel.
            Let us chant:
            “Jew murderers, terrorist organization, elimination of Israel, wholesale slaughter of Jews. Jew murderers, wholesale slaughter of Jews, Jew murderers, Jew murderers, wholesale slaughter of Jews….”

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          • Ido

            (attempt #2): “a political thought about Palestine,That I don’t like” – yes, incitement for Jew murder during the “knife Intifadah”, supporting a Jihadist terrorist organization who calls for the elimination of Israel and the slaughter of Jews is “a political thought about Palestine that I don’t like”. Now that’s comedy. Not your best but not too bad.
            “And remember, the prison rule book says three months no visit” – still waiting for your evidence of the ‘usual practice’.
            “And exploit the Holocaust unconscionably” – oh yes, this is very relevant to this discussion. And exactly what I was saying. Would you like to change the subject and talk about the Holocaust? comparing Israeli actions against Palestinians with the Nazi extermination of the Jews is a favorite ridiculous idiotic nonsense of Palestinian propaganda.
            “Because anything is permitted In furtherance of Greater Israel” – you have no idea what you’re talking about do you. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re just spewing idiotic nonsense again with no relation to reality. Greater Israel ? do you even know what that means ?
            “Jew murderers, terrorist organization, elimination of Israel, wholesale slaughter of Jews” – let’s continue to bury our heads in our own backside and pretend those things are not part of the Palestinian actions, narrative and openly stated goals.

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          • Ido

            I’ll just post my response in the Facebook comments section until this site decides to wake up.

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          • Ben

            Baloney.

            Let’s finally put this nonsense to rest, for you for too long have had a free ride on this. Let’s use Geller-speak for a moment. By all means, point to me where the poet used the word “Jew” or “murder” or “Jew murder” (as in your sick, repetitious chanting) in her poem. By all means, show me a fact, evidence. (Ido Geller is all for the absurdist, narrowest niggling on “facts” except when plain, obvious facts get in his way and then he’s a broooooaaaad interpreter!)

            She used the word “shahid,” as in “Resist, my people, resist them. / Resist the settler’s robbery / And follow the caravan of martyrs.” And Israelis like you, for whom every resister whatsoever is a “terrrorrrist,” purposefully mistranslate “witness/martyr” as “terrorist.” And purposefully misconstrue what Palestinians must mean by “martyr” and purposefully misconstrue what “follow the caravan” must mean. All of you suddenly authoritative poetry critics. Fact is, you’re full of it. (So in your reply you can spare us, God have mercy, the predictable Geller-speak of “oh, so I guess you didn’t know that…I guess you have no idea that….” and spare us also please, Lord have mercy, the usual contextual BS and absence-of-contextual BS.)

            The poem, “Resist, My People, Resist Them”:

            https://arablit.org/2016/04/27/the-poem-for-which-dareen-tatours-under-house-arrest-resist-my-people-resist-them/

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          • Ido

            “point to me where the poet used the word” – we had an entire article about this where I showed you all of this in detail. Why are you ignoring this ?
            So who do you think the “martyrs” in question, the ones she asked people to follow, were fighting ? the Navajo ?
            “By all means, show me a fact, evidence” – I did:
            https://972mag.com/palestinian-poet-convicted-of-inciting-terror-in-facebook-poem/135087/

            “Ido Geller is all for the absurdist, narrowest niggling on “facts”” – you’re a clueless liar, something which I proved in detail on so many occasions that I lost count.
            “purposefully mistranslate “witness/martyr” as “terrorist.”” – then you have zero clue about the reality and actual facts in question. Tell me, all those posters of “martyrs” you see in the Palestinian streets, schools, shops, etc, what is the common factor to all of them ?
            and the fact that this “poet” openly supported a Jihadist Islamic terrorist organization who calls for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews is purely coincidental, right ?
            “And purposefully misconstrue what Palestinians must mean by “martyr”” – nope, I’m simply using common sense. You are again ignoring when all of this happened, during what is now known as the “knife Intifadah” when Jews were stabbed almost daily following incitement similar to hers.
            “purposefully misconstrue what “follow the caravan” must mean” – Again: common basic sense. Squirm around it as much as you like, it is not going to change.
            “All of you suddenly authoritative poetry critics” – nope, we use our brains and are familiar with Palestinian society and when this all took place. We are also familiar with the fact that she openly supported a Jihadist terrorist organization who calls for the slaughter of Jews.
            “you’re full of it” – you’re a clueless brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ who has no idea what he’s talking about.

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          • Ben

            So why can‘t you just admit it, she never used the words “Jew” or “murder” or “Jew murder”” Nor did she mean this in other words. Instead of this song and dance as you sneak out the exit waving your hat and talking through it?

            (For busy people on the go, the Reader’s Digest Condensed version of Ido’s dance routine:

            “You’re a clueless liar… I showed you all of this in detail!… you have zero clue…a Jihadist Islamic terrorist organization…elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews!… you’re a clueless brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ who has no idea what he’s talking about… did I say terrorist?… did I say murder of Jews?… which I showed you in detail!…” Same show next week folks! The routine never varies!)

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          • Ido

            “So why can‘t you just admit it, she never used the words “Jew” or “murder” or “Jew murder” – Please by all means, show me where I said she did. I was very specific, all posted in detail in the comments section. I ask again: so who do you think the “martyrs” in question were fighting ? the ones she asked people to follow ? the Navajo ? see this is called basic common sense.

            “For busy people on the go, the Reader’s Digest Condensed version of Ido’s dance routine” – why are you lying when I just posted a link to the comments section where I showed all of what I said about this “poet” in detail ? what’s with you and ignoring posts repeatedly ?

            “you have zero clue…a Jihadist Islamic terrorist organization..” – Again: provided detailed evidence, multiple links, again and again and you ignore it like a child who can’t handle reality, again and again. Extremely pathetic.

            Here’s the latest link to an article with comments section with detailed examples of your pathetic schtick:
            https://972mag.com/palestinian-refugees-unrwa-trump-aid-cut/137643/

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          • Ben

            From Ido’s helpful link to +972 Magazine:

            In November of 2016, Tatour testified and admitted that she had written the statuses. She explained that she was protesting the occupation, denouncing the crimes committed against Palestinians by the Israeli army and the settlers, adding that the police translation distorted her texts. Throughout the trial [link: A bizarre end to the trial of Palestinian poet Dareen Tatour, Yoav Haifawi], the defense called a cast of experts on Hebrew and Arabic literature to testify about the various meanings of specific words and phrases used by Tatour in her art, as well as the nature of political poetry, and how even some of the most oppressive regimes in the world have tolerated dissident poets….

            The prosecution convinced the court not to accept as evidence a screenshot from Tatour’s Facebook page showing that she initially published the profile picture with the caption “I am the next martyr” in July 2014, as a response to the murder of the teen Muhammad Abu Khdeir. It was rejected on technical grounds — the absence of a witness corroborating the authenticity of the image….

            The second piece of new evidence related to the publication of a video accompanied by the lyrics of Tatour’s poem, “Resist My People.” The defense brought evidence that the same video was later posted by Israeli Culture Minister Miri Regev on her own Facebook page. That no legal steps have been taken against Regev, the defense argued, constitutes proof of discriminatory prosecution….

            The defense insisted that the poem is a legitimate expression of protest, which speaks about the occupation’s violence against innocent Palestinians. The defense based its arguments on specific events that were mentioned in the poem: the children who were burned; Hadeel, who was shot; the settler’s robbery; and the violence of the army’s special undercover units.

            The prosecutor focused on what she thought was clear to every “average person”—the Israeli worldview that sees every Arab, and especially whoever opposes the occupation, as a dangerous terrorist. The prosecution, therefore, screened gory videos of Palestinian attacks, under the pretext of checking the skill and objectivity of the defense’s translator.

            According to the prosecution, the publication of the photo “I am the next Martyr” was part of a systematic pattern of encouraging suicide attacks. The fact that the picture was first published in response to the burning of young Abu Khdeir, of course, should have been conclusive proof that Tatour speaks of the martyr in the sense of a victim rather than an attacker.

            However, as previously mentioned, the prosecutor managed to have that new evidence stricken…

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          • Ido

            What a shocking surprise! you completely ignored the actual comments where I refuted your nonsense, as usual.
            Ignoring the obvious meaning of “martyr” in Palestinian “culture”, her call to follow said “Martyrs”, her support for an Islamic Jihadist terrorist organization who openly calls for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews, etc.
            Again you ignored the fact that this happened during the “knife Intifadah” when incitement of her kind was the cause of multiple murder attempts by Palestinian “lone wolf” terrorists.
            Calling for people to follow the “martyrs”, which I assure you were not busy herding cattle at the time of their “martyrdom”, during the “knife Intifadah” and supporting a terrorist organization calling for the murder of Jews and the elimination of Israel
            is not “a legitimate expression of protest”. it’s called incitement.
            “the Israeli worldview that sees every Arab, and especially whoever opposes the occupation, as a dangerous terrorist” – absolute nonsense, I refuted this stupidity in detail, explaining to you like to a child, including providing linked evidence to back me up, which you of course promptly ignored.
            “Tatour speaks of the martyr in the sense of a victim rather than an attacker” – Again: why are you ignoring that incitement of this kind lead to Palestinians attempting to slaughter Jews ? why are you again ignoring the fact that she openly supported a terrorist organization calling for the murder of Jews ?
            I ask again: why are you ignoring all the comments where I refuted your brainwashed clueless nonsense in detail ?
            And another question, third time I believe: who do you think the Palestinian terrorists she supported were after ? who do you think the Palestinian terrorists during the “knife Intifadah” were trying to murder ? Eskimos ? martians ? gerbils ? you claimed she never said the word “Jew”, and I answered that I never claimed she did, but you have to be brain damaged to think it meant against anyone else.

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          • Ben

            Thanks. I think the helpful link you provided refutes what you say here. It puzzles me why you would link to something and then ignore the evidence it lays out.

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          • Ido

            “I think the helpful link you provided refutes what you say here” – Why are you lying again ? why are you ignoring my posts refuting your nonsense again ? you think I won’t notice ? how many times I refuted your ridiculous nonsense about this issue and you ignored my posts probably thinking that by doing so you can evade the uncomfortable reality of you not knowing what you’re talking about ? like a child. Again: you not knowing what “shahid” most commonly means in Palestinian “culture”, her support for a Palestinian terrorist organization calling for Israel’s elimination and the murder of Jews, the time period in question (“knife Intifadah”) and how it played a part in the incitement trial, etc.

            Ignoring reality won’t making it go away. The only thing it does is show how you’re a brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ with a hard time dealing with reality.

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          • Ben

            Very simply, you are coldly ignoring the person, Dareen Tatour; the person, Muhammad Abu Khdeir; the children who were burned; the person, Hadeel, who was shot; the settler’s robbery; and the violence of the army’s special undercover units. And the whole occupation and its brutality. You ignore this in favor of “the obvious meaning of ‘martyr’ in Palestinian ‘culture’” because to you “they” are all alike, one faceless, undifferentiated, dehumanized, Jew-blood-craving mass. You are that dehumanizing. You refuse to see these non-Jewish persons as a person like you. You are contemptuous, full of yourself, and transparently quite racist. Everything you say is simply a sneer, and not more than that. Really you do not see how ugly you are. But it is instructive, revealing, for us to see it.

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          • Ido

            And as usual you ignored my post. I’m not ignoring Dareen Tatour, what I said was specifically about her. Muhammad Abu Khdeir and the rest of what you said are not going to cancel out her incitement, her support for a terrorist organization who calls for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews and the fact that incitement of her kind was a catalyst to the “knife Intifadah”, what “Shahid” means in Palestinian “culture”, what she said about following said people, etc. You know, what you completely ignored.
            “And the whole occupation and its brutality” – that’s great. Did it cancel out her incitement ? or are you trying a different tactic, justifying her and her kind ? Jihadist supporters ?
            “because to you “they” are all alike” – why ase you lying about this again when there’s an entire article where I refuted this hilarious nonsense ? in great detail ?
            “one faceless, undifferentiated, dehumanized, Jew-blood-craving mass” – lying about this idiotic nonsense will not somehow make it real. No matter how hard you want it to be.
            “You refuse to see these non-Jewish persons as a person like you” – almost as ridiculous as you claiming Jews invented a special word for Arabs, ““Mekhabel”, to de-humanize Arab “resistance fighters”. I refuted that hilarious idiotic nonsense in detail. Would you like me to link that article ? some of your best comedy.
            “You are contemptuous, full of yourself, and transparently quite racist” – you’re a liar. A clueless brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ who refuses to accept reality even when said reality is yelling the truth in your clueless face.
            “Everything you say is simply a sneer, and not more than that” – lying repeatedly about this won’t somehow make it real. No matter how hard you try.
            “Really you do not see how ugly you are” – said the clueless liar who repeatedly ignores evidence showing how clueless he is or makes up hilarious insane nonsense to justify why he can’t address said evidence. Your ‘the Palestinian leaders in the evidence are fake’ and ‘the Palestinian leaders are not that important’ bits is still making me laugh. I believe it’s your best work to date.

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          • Ido

            (attempt #2) (part 2): “You refuse to see these non-Jewish persons as a person like you” – almost as ridiculous as you claiming Jews invented a special word for Arabs, ““Mekhabel”, to de-humanize Arab “resistance fighters”. I refuted that hilarious idiotic nonsense in detail. Would you like me to link that article ? some of your best comedy.
            “You are contemptuous, full of yourself, and transparently quite racist” – you’re a liar. A clueless brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ who refuses to accept reality even when said reality is yelling the truth in your clueless face.
            “Everything you say is simply a sneer, and not more than that” – lying repeatedly about this won’t somehow make it real. No matter how hard you try.
            “Really you do not see how ugly you are” – said the clueless liar who repeatedly ignores evidence showing how clueless he is or makes up hilarious insane nonsense to justify why he can’t address said evidence. Your ‘the Palestinian leaders in the evidence are fake’ and ‘the Palestinian leaders are not that important’ bits is still making me laugh. I believe it’s your best work to date.

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          • Ben

            See my several comments to you elsewhere about your intractable fact/interpretation confusion and your incessant misuse of the word “lie.” This is really an intractable or incorrigible problem of yours.

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          • Ido

            “See my several comments to you elsewhere about your intractable fact/interpretation” – And I refuted all of them in great detail backed by evidence you refused to address. Please, by all means, post them. Always good for a laugh.
            “your incessant misuse of the word “lie.”” – Again, for the 5,683,345 time: when I call you a liar I always back it up. Explain why that is. Very clearly so. Please, by all means, feel free to address it.

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          • Ben

            With your frequent really odd replies like these that bear no relation to reality and rather invert it, one has the eerie sense of talking to a madman. As always I’m happy to have the record speak for itself. You know this is not some kind of inane tennis match where you lob redundant nonsense balls from the baseline and I have to tediously return them.

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          • Ido

            Can’t help it when this site posts my comments out of order or completely drops them or returns an error 5 out of 6 times. Don’t worry, I’ll number them for your convenience and I’ll attempt to post the one they “misplaced” so far.
            “rather invert it” – I see you found your new favorite pathetic nonsense excuse to not address my posts. Very amusing.
            “one has the eerie sense of talking to a madman” – Amusing coming from the clueless liar who lives in a fantasy land and squirms and lies with such creativity to avoid addressing the uncomfortable evidence proving he has no idea what he’s talking about.
            “I’m happy to have the record speak for itself” – oh you have no idea how I agree with you on this one.

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          • Ido

            Aaand this site is still not posting my comments. Until they wake up I’ll post the missing response in the Facebook comments section, enjoy.

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          • Ben

            “oh you have no idea”

            No, we have a strong idea of how obsessed you are with this and with me. Your emotive language telegraphs that. It strikes us as low grade in quality, like I’m throwing tennis balls and this tail-wagging puppy excitedly chases them and brings them back the same way each time with dirt on them so they are not really recognizable, and after a while we get tired of cleaning the muck off them and re-throwing them but the puppy is as excited as ever and would keep doing this from sunup until the sun goes down, but we gotta stop.

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          • Ido

            “No, we have a strong idea of how obsessed you are with this and with me” – hilarious.. says the guy who repeatedly lies about me repeatedly. Why are you still ignoring my posts about the actual topic of this article ?
            Again: you not knowing what “shahid” most commonly means in Palestinian “culture”, her support for a Palestinian terrorist organization calling for Israel’s elimination and the murder of Jews, the time period in question (“knife Intifadah”) and how it played a part in the incitement trial, etc.

            Ignoring reality won’t making it go away. The only thing it does is show how you’re a brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ with a hard time dealing with reality.

            “Your emotive language telegraphs that” – oh you mean pointing out again how you’re a clueless liar who makes up idiotic stuff about me ? and of course unable to back it up ? and ignores how I refuted all this nonsense of your in detail in the last 3 articles we discussed this ?
            “as low grade in quality” – you mean like for example, a hilarious idiot who claims evidence provided to him is not real but fake ? or when someone is that stupid to claim the Palestinian leadership itself is unimportant and not influential ?
            Someone who as I proved so many times is a clueless liar who doesn’t know what he’s talking about ? proven very, very clearly over and over again and that someone can’t even address said evidence so he simply ignores it repeatedly or make up hilarious lies to avoid addressing it ?

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          • Ben

            Thanks for you devoted exegesis. We’re not impressed.

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          • Ido

            Aaaand again ignoring my posts. Like a child who can’t deal with reality.

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          • Ben

            You have no evidence that I ignored your posts. You have evidence that I did not think very much of your posts, which in fact is prima facie evidence that I attended to your posts.

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          • Ido

            Again: you not knowing what “shahid” most commonly means in Palestinian “culture”, her support for a Palestinian terrorist organization calling for Israel’s elimination and the murder of Jews, something you ignored repeatedly so far, the time period in question (“knife Intifadah”) and how it played a part in the incitement trial, etc.

            Ignoring reality won’t making it go away. The only thing it does is show how you’re a brainwashed ‘Useful Idiot’ with a hard time dealing with reality.

            You mean like the evidence for the 3 months wait period ? which you of course ignored ?
            To answer the article’s question: Is Israel forbidding a poet from receiving family visits in prison ? – nope.

            “You have evidence that I did not think very much of your posts” – I have evidence that you have a very tenuous grasp on reality and you are brainwashed to the point of brain damage.

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          • Ben

            One of these days you might come up with a non-confused, straight thought and use words like “evidence” correctly, but I haven’t seen evidence of it yet.

            You have evidence that I did not think very much of your posts, but you do not have evidence that I have a very tenuous grasp on reality and am brainwashed to the point of brain damage. What we both have is evidence that YOU THINK (or say you think) that I have a very tenuous grasp on reality and am brainwashed to the point of brain damage. There is a difference.

            You really don’t understand any of this, do you?

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          • Ido

            “One of these days you might come up with a non-confused, straight thought and use words like “evidence” correctly” – you mean like the link above to the site detailing the rules applied to visits ? you mean like videos, interviews, written charters, etc of the Palestinians literally refuting your clueless nonsense ?
            The most common basic evidence in existence ? which to avoid addressing it makes you invent some of the more colorful lies I have ever seen ?
            “but I haven’t seen evidence of it yet.” – the link is above in the Facebook comments section, I’ll add again a link detailing her trial and support for a terrorist organization and why she was on trial for incitement, we already went over this about 3 times in 3 different articles about her.

            “You have evidence that I did not think very much of your posts” – nope, I have evidence that you’re a clueless liar who doesn’t know what he’s talking about as I proved repeatedly across I think about 20 articles by now.
            “you do not have evidence that I have a very tenuous grasp on reality” – when said reality is presented to you and you ignore it or choose to believe some hilarious Palestinian propaganda nonsense, as I proved in detail so many times, it means exactly that.
            “and am brainwashed to the point of brain damage” – you accept some of the more esoteric Palestinian anti-Israel lies and propaganda as fact as I proved many times, so yes.
            “we both have is evidence that YOU THINK” – nope, I proved this in detail so many times, would you like me to link some of the articles showing this in detail again ? why are you lying about this as well ? a couple of them have actual lists of your clueless nonsense and lies.
            “You really don’t understand any of this, do you?”- I understand how you just lied again.

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