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Why are so many Israeli women subjected to sexual harassment?

Reported incidents of sexual harassment, assault and rape by high-ranking Israeli officials are flooding their way into the media. Why is the violation of women’s bodies and dignity so endemic in Israeli society?

A woman with "my body, my rules" written on her at the SlutWalk against sexism in Tel Aviv, May 9, 2014. SlutWalks have been held in cities across the world as a symbol of defiance against sexism and sexual violence. (Yotam Ronen/Activestills.org)

A woman with “my body, my rules” written on her at the SlutWalk against sexism in Tel Aviv, May 9, 2014. SlutWalks have been held in cities across the world as a symbol of defiance against sexism and sexual violence. (Yotam Ronen/Activestills.org)

Several days ago a story broke in Israel that has been dominating the headlines ever since: a senior Israeli army officer has been suspended from his duties after coming under suspicion of having sexually assaulted a female soldier under his command.

Ofek Buchris, whose name was originally under gag order, is suspected of five counts of assault, including rape. And as a high-ranking official in the most trusted institution in the country, his alleged transgressions have provoked outrage, bewilderment, and outright denial.

Buchris is the latest in a recent string of high-profile men in Israel to come under suspicion of sexually assaulting or harassing women. The IDF is currently faced with another two ongoing sexual harassment cases involving officers, according to Israeli news site Ynet, and in 2015, 12 separate cases of suspected rape were reported. According to military police, there were 125 incidents of suspected sexual assault or harassment in the army throughout last year. A report from 2013 showed that one in eight women in the IDF were sexually assaulted that year.

It’s not just in the army. At the end of last year, former interior minister and deputy prime minister Silvan Shalom and former Jewish Home MK Yinon Magal resigned within weeks of one another following a string of complaints from former female employees that they were sexually assaulted and harassed by the two men while working under them.

Also at the end of 2015, a senior Israeli police officer was accused of sexual harassment by two separate women (although then-Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein decided to close the file on the incidents). In January of this year, Ashkelon Mayor Itamar Shimoni was arrested on suspicion of rape and using bribe money to buy the silence of the women he had allegedly assaulted.

It is important to note that this flurry of cases — and these are by no means all the stories that have made the press in the last year — are not necessarily evidence of an increase in sexual assault and harassment, but potentially a sign that more women are coming forward and finally revealing how systematic the abuse is. The case that seems to have precipitated this is that of May Fatal, a female soldier who filed a complaint against her superior officer for sexual harassment and then went public in protest at the lenient plea bargain reached in military court.

Soldiers watch the Slut Walk rally from a cafe, Tel Aviv, Israel, April 5, 2013. Protesters shouted slogans condemning discrimination against women based on their choice of dress or appearance. (Keren Manor/Activestills.org)

Soldiers watch the Slut Walk rally from a cafe, Tel Aviv, Israel, April 5, 2013. Protesters shouted slogans condemning discrimination against women based on their choice of dress or appearance. (Keren Manor/Activestills.org)

While we shouldn’t kid ourselves that sexism and sexual harassment are not fundamental societal flaws in the rest of the world, there is nonetheless something behind the regularity of incidents in Israel — and the fact that senior officials find themselves consistently embroiled in them — that merits consideration.

It is no secret that Israeli society is a deeply militarized one. The IDF is Israel’s heart and soul, and much of its body. The majority of Jewish Israeli citizens have been or will be a soldier.

Given the IDF’s perceived moral and practical standing in Israel, its former high-ranking officers are frequently parachuted into top-level positions elsewhere. The prevalence of ex-military men in the government is a known phenomenon, but they are also “re-drafted” into high-tech companies, banks and even schools and other educational institutions. The perceived wisdom is that these are trustworthy men — the kind of men you listen to.

That’s an awful lot of men in positions of considerable authority that have graduated from an inherently patriarchal and hierarchical institution — as any army is — and are used to giving orders and having them obeyed. In other words, making demands of people that aren’t in a position to say “no” (from the perspective of the one making the demand). That, coupled with the implicit trust in the veteran military authority figure, is a dangerous combination.

Those that leapt to Buchris’ defense demonstrate this attitude to the full. “[T]here is no officer who embodies the IDF moral code better than him,” one officer said. “We are talking about a moral man, really dedicated to his service… He cared about [female soldiers under his command] like a father.” That last bit is particularly telling — it sets up a paternalistic dynamic in which the woman is unequal, a creature to be protected by a trustworthy man. By a man that you listen to.

Moreover, as with any institution that concentrates huge authority within the hands of a very few, the army in Israel invites hushing and looking the other way when it comes to the transgressions of its power-holders. It does so because its ability to operate in the way that it does — with a given command being, in all but the most exceptional cases, the final word — is dependent on that authority remaining unquestioned.

And finally there is the occupation. For nearly 50 years, Israelis have lived with the example that one’s desire for something is worth more than what — or whom — may be harmed in the quest to pursue it. The idea that something is there for the taking simply because one covets it is toxic, contagious, and under Israel’s current leadership, only becoming more entrenched.

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    1. Bruce Gould

      Around 2001 I drove around an Israeli with Yesh Gvul to his various speaking engagements. Every time he spoke he included the same story: he said that domestic violence was high in Israel, looked at the audience and asked the rhetorical question: why was Israeli society like this? Then he provided the answer: he explained that a lot of Israelis serve in the army in the occupied territories where they see a lot of people who have no rights, so they go home and start thinking that maybe their wives and girlfriends have no rights, maybe it was ok to decide who has rights and who doesn’t, just like in the West Bank. He spoke of the corrosive influence of the Occupation on Israeli society….

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      • Reality Check

        And yet if you had actually bothered to check it out you would have discovered that Israel has one of the lowest rates of domestic violence (and murder and assault rates) in the world. Now applying your logic you need to conclude that the “occupation” is somehow responsible for that. I am sure you will find a way, if not your Yesh Gvul friends will help. They may even refer you to that Doctoral dissertation proving just how racist the IDF is because they don’t, repeat don’t, rape Arab women.
        But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your ideological pre-conceptions.

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        • Elisabeth

          No, they rape their female colleagues. LOL

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    2. Ginger Eis

      Number 7: Canada

      Among all violent crimes reported to police, sexual assault showed a rapid increase in reported rates in Canada. According to huffingtonpost, there are 460,000 sexual assaults in the country every year. Its said that 33 out of every 1,000 sexual assault cases are reported to the police, and 29 are recorded as a crime. One out of 4 North American women has to face the torture of rape during their lifetime. 11% of women have physical injury resulting this torture. According to the statistics, only 6% of incidents are reported to the police. Over 80% of victims are women, maximum incidents occur in the home and 80% of assailants are friends and family of the victim. The most disturbing fact is that 83% of disabled women will be sexual assaulted during their lifetime. About all sexual assault victims, 17% are girls and 15% are boys under 16.

      Number 8: Australia

      In Australia the reported rape rate per 100,000 people is relatively high. During the year 2012, an estimated 51,200 Australians aged 18 years and over were a victim of sexual assault. Almost a third (30%) of victims of sexual assault had the most recent incident they experienced reported to the police. According to news com, 1 out of 6 Australian women has to face the torture of rape by a non-partner, compared to one in 14 women around the world. It said that Australian women aged over 15 are victims of rape. Australia (with New Zealand in the research) came third in the worldwide study with 16.4 % of women reporting being raped by someone other than a partner. Karen Willis, the NSW Rape Crisis Centre executive officer, says more than 70 % of these sexual assaults are carried out by family members, friends, work or school colleagues. A further 29 % of rapes are perpetrated by someone the woman meets socially or occur on a date. Just 1% of rapes are committed by strangers, she said.

      Number 9: Zimbabwe
      Zimbabwe is at 9th position with maximum rape crimes. At least one woman is raped every 90 minutes in zimbabwe. According to the latest statistics by Zimbabwe National Statistics (ZimStat), 500 women were sexually abused monthly – about 16 women being raped daily. According to UNICEF, Child rape up 42 percent in Zimbabwe. It said the number of cases of rape of minors reported to police surged from 2,192 in 2010 to 3,112 in 2014. Many other cases likely went unreported in a climate of secrecy and denial.

      Number 10: Denmark and Finland

      One out of three women in Europe have suffered some form of physical or sexual assault and 5% have been raped. According to a 2014 study published by the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights, approximately 47% of women surveyed in Finland were said to have suffered physical and/or sexual abuse; And 52 % of women in Denmark were said to have suffered physical and/or sexual abuse. Finland was one of the last countries in the EU to criminalize marital rape, making it illegal in 1994. More than 1 in 10 of the women interviewed indicated that they experienced some form of sexual violence by an adult before they were 15 years old. One out of 10 had experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 15, one in 20 had been raped. And over 1 out of 5 had experienced physical and/or sexual violence from either a current or previous partner. Only 13 % of women reported their most serious incident to the police.

      http://www.wonderslist.com/top-10-countries-with-maximum-rape-crimes/

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      • Ginger Eis

        Truth Matters!

        To answer her own tendentious question: “why is the violation of women’s bodies and dignity so endemic in Israeli society?”, Ms. Natasha Roth, while blaming what she calls “the occupation” and “militarized society”, treacherously zeroed in on the IDF and used the depraved acts of a handful of soldiers to tarnish the whole country and the IDF and present a FALSE picture of the entire Israeli reality. The truth is that sexual violence against women in Israel is among the lowest in the West world. Western countries reporting higher rates of sexual violence against women than Israel include: United States, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Iceland, New Zealand, Great Britain, Australia, etc. Neither are these societies “militarized” nor are they burdened with “occupation”. ACCORDINGLY, the basic claim of Ms. Roth and the foundation of said claim fails – miserably. Sexual violence is a heinous crime that must be fought like cancer, but never used as a weapon to fight ideological battles. It is my opinion that Ms. Roth is abusing the plight of victims of sexual violence to further her own political agenda: smear, demonize and delegitimize the IDF and the Jewish State. SUCH – is morally reprehensible.

        Here are the top 10 countries with highest rape crime. You would be amazed to read that the most developed countries like U.S., Sweden, France, Canada, UK, etc. are the most immersed ones in this crime.

        (This is the first post that refuses to appear for whatever reason. the second will follow).

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        • Ginger Eis

          Number 1: South Africa

          ‘South Africa has one of the highest rates of rape in the world, with some 65,000 rapes and other sexual assaults reported for the year 2012. The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the “rape capital of the world”.

          Number 2: Sweden

          Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe and one of the highest in the world. One amongst every four women comes out to be the victim of rape in Sweden. By 2010, The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences – about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants. The country has third-highest rape crime in the world. In 2009 there were 15,700 reported sexual offenses in Sweden, a rise of 8% compared to 2008, of which 5,940 were rape and sexual harassment (including exhibitionism) accounted for 7,590 reports. In April 2009, it was reported that sex crimes had increased by 58% over the previous ten years. According to a 2009 European Union study, Sweden has one of the highest rates of reported rape in Europe.

          RECAPPING:
          Basically, Ms. Roth’s argument that “the endemic violence against women in Israel is the result of ‘militarism and military occupation is a NON-SEQUITUR per excellence, because, as said above, the rate of sexual violence against women is higher and more endemic countries that are NOT “militarized” and NOT enburdened by “occupation”! The ONLY conclusions is thus that ‘militarism and occupation’ got NOTHING to do with sexual violence. Period.

          Sorry folks for the poor sequencing of the posts. I posted all the posts at once. One ended up on a different thread, others didn’t appear at all. Hence the re-posts and the poor sequence of the posts.

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      • Ben

        Eis, why do you keep reminding me of Emily Litella?

        “What’s all this fuss I hear about an eagle rights amendment?! Who cares about eagle rights?!”

        http://snl.wikia.com/wiki/Emily_Litella

        The topic was not which countries have the highest numbers of rapes. Natasha Roth explained this quite clearly:

        “While we shouldn’t kid ourselves that sexism and sexual harassment are not fundamental societal flaws in the rest of the world, there is nonetheless something behind the regularity of incidents in Israel — and the fact that senior officials find themselves consistently embroiled in them — that merits consideration.”

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        • Gustav

          BEN:”While we shouldn’t kid ourselves that sexism and sexual harassment are not fundamental societal flaws in the rest of the world, there is nonetheless something behind the regularity of incidents in Israel”

          Translation…

          …yes, yes, we know that there are negatives in the rest of the world. But please, I Benny, an American (or someone who claims to be an American) who hates Israel, want to talk ONLY about Israel and emphasize how uniquely evil Israel is. So please don’t distract me from my mission with any perspective which says that the particular evil is a universal problem. I don’t want to hear that. I want to smear Israel in particular…

          … then Benny-leh stomps his little feet to emphasize his point.

          Ya gotta laugh…

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          • Ben

            In your deceptively partial reproduction of the text I quoted you edited out:

            ” — and the fact that senior officials find themselves consistently embroiled in them — that merits consideration.”

            A most interesting editing job. But not surprising.

            “want to talk ONLY about Israel”

            Well, no, I want to talk to many people about many things but I want to talk here on this site about Israel-Palestine because that is what this site is about. I could discuss the merits of Chardonnay (I don’t care for it) versus Sauvignon Blanc (some of the northern Marlborough New Zealand varieties have a grassy flavor I especially like) but it would be off topic here. Though I am happy to discuss this in depth at a dinner party with my neighbors. Likewise, there are sites devoted to the problem of rape, and rape in all the countries Eis trots out in her “top ten” list. It’s an important subject. But as I pointed out, and as you tried to obscure with an ad hominem attack and a manipulative editing job, Eis is trying but not succeeding to distract from the actual subject about which Ms. Roth writes. I’m glad we cleared that up.

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          • Samson

            Are you really that dense to understand what Natasha Roth’s argument is and how Ginger Eis debunked it? Here, lemme splain it to you:

            Natasha: (a) “occupation” and (b) “militarized Israel’ CAUSE (c) sexual violence against women is the result of

            Ginger: Western countries that are (a) not “occupying” anyone and (b) not militarized have higher rates of rapes and other forms of sexual violence against women than Israel. (a): ‘Occupation” and (b): “militarize Israel” are therefore not the CAUSE of (c) rapes and other forms of sexual violence against women. Natasha’s argument is therefore a “NON-SEQUITUR per excellence”.

            That’s not too difficult to understand, is it? Do you now understand what Natasha’s argument is and how Ginger debunked it, or do I have to splain it more to you?

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          • Ben

            ” — and the fact that senior officials find themselves consistently embroiled in them — that merits consideration.”

            How many western countries have their President in prison for rape? How many have so many MKs and Generals charged with rape or sexual harassment? Rape rates reported in the general population are not the most relevant indicator with respect to the topic of the article. It’s sexual harassment and assault and rape. That’s a broader spectrum of psychological, verbal and physical behavior. And attitudes. And Natasha Roth asked particularly about senior officials. Senior officials. By the way, Eisikovits et al. (2004) “The First Israeli National Survey on Domestic Violence,” found that as regards domestic violence although the rates of physical aggression are lower in Israel compared to other western countries, the rates of psychological aggression are higher. But again, Roth is focusing on military and political senior officials, not the population at large. It’s about attitude. If you think you can just invade an innocent family’s house in the middle of the night to terrorize the husband, the wife and the children, for practice, just like that (see: Shaul, Yehuda et al.) because you have the power, then that innocent female private or sergeant or secretary in your office might be fair game too.

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          • Samson

            I believe this is the statement you are quoting:

            Natasha: “While we shouldn’t kid ourselves that sexism and sexual harassment are not fundamental societal flaws in the rest of the world, there is nonetheless something behind the regularity of incidents in Israel — and the fact that senior officials find themselves consistently embroiled in them — that merits consideration”.

            That “something behind the regularity of incidents in Israel”, as Natasha puts it, is “occupation” and ‘militarized Israel’.

            Ginger Eis
            Friday
            March 4, 2016

            “Truth Matters!
            To answer her own tendentious question: “why is the violation of women’s bodies and dignity so endemic in Israeli society?”, Ms. Natasha Roth, while blaming what she calls “the occupation” and “militarized society”, treacherously zeroed in on the IDF and used the depraved acts of a handful of soldiers to tarnish the whole country and the IDF and present a FALSE picture of the entire Israeli reality. The truth is that sexual violence against women in Israel is among the lowest in the West world. Western countries reporting higher rates of sexual violence against women than Israel include: United States, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Iceland, New Zealand, Great Britain, Australia, etc. Neither are these societies “militarized” nor are they burdened with “occupation”. ACCORDINGLY, the basic claim of Ms. Roth and the foundation of said claim fails – miserably. Sexual violence is a heinous crime that must be fought like cancer, but never used as a weapon to fight ideological battles. It is my opinion that Ms. Roth is abusing the plight of victims of sexual violence to further her own political agenda: smear, demonize and delegitimize the IDF and the Jewish State. SUCH – is morally reprehensible”.

            Learn when to stop talking and walk away instead of making a complete fool of yourself in a desperate attempt to save face.

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          • Samson

            Another confused and incoherent rambling mumbo jumbo even Ben himself does not understand. Oh boy….

            Dude, learn to know when the battle is lost, shut up and walk away, instead of making a fool of yourself ranting and rambling gibberish in a desperate effort to find a face saving way out.

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          • Ben

            Oh, you said you were going to have to “splain it more.” I accept your tacit surrender.

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          • Samson

            Still hallucinating and trying desperately to save face, moron? Lemme try to ram the core of the arguments of Natasha and Ginger thru your fool’s skull once again:

            1. Natasha: (a) “militarized Israel’ and (b) “occupation” CAUSE (c) sexual violence against women.

            2. Ginger: Western countries that are (a) not “occupying” anyone and (b) not militarized have higher rates of rapes and other forms of sexual violence against women than Israel. Therefore (a): ‘Occupation” and (b): “militarize Israel” are therefore not the CAUSE of (c) rapes and other forms of sexual violence against women. Natasha’s argument is therefore a “NON-SEQUITUR per excellence”.

            Very simple, very clear, very coherent argument. Not too difficult to understand, is it? Now, if you think that Natasha **is NOT** saying that (a) “militarized Israel’ and (b) “occupation” CAUSE (c) sexual violence against women, then we all agree with you. Case closed. If you think that Natasha **is** saying that “militarized Israel” and “occupation” are the cause of “sexual violence against women in Israel”, what then are you rambling and ranting against? What do YOU think is the REASON “Why the violation of women’s bodies and dignity is so endemic in Israeli society” as Natasha herself puts it?

            Pls. answer ONLY the question.

            Btw. your quote of Natasha is distorted and therefore false.

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          • bryan

            I don’t suppose you would give any credence then to the widespread reports that ISIS forces occupying Syria and Iraq have widely engaged in rape and similar violent crimes? Would you argue that the Nazi occupation of Western Europe was the best way to inculcate moral probity in German youth?

            Of course I am not comparing the Israel occupation with other events – but there does seem to be a prima facie case that the violence, lawlessness, weak policing, undermining of normal social taboos that are inherent in any violent conflict / occupation may come home to roost. One only has to look at levels of suicide among IDF soldiers, PTSD, and even simple things like the propensity to break normal social norms (such as observing red traffic lights) to suggest that the occupation (almost 50 and still growing exponentially) is good neither for Palestinian nor Israeli society. Or do you feel than redeeming other people’s land from them is the best way to improve the human condition?

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    3. Ginger Eis

      Number 3: The United States Of America:

      The super power of the world is at the first position in the race of rapes. Males are majorly the rapist holding a proportion of 99%. Out of all the victims, 91% are females while 9% are males. The U.S Bureau of Justice Statistics states that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and nearly 99% of rapists are male. According to the National Violence Against Women Survey, 1 in 6 U.S. women and 1 in 33 U.S. men has experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. More than a quarter of college-age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14. Out of all, only 16% of the total cases are reported. Outdoor rape is not common in USA rather most of the rape cases takes place inside homes.

      Number 4: England and Walse

      Rape in the United Kingdom is not a gender neutral offense: it is an offense that can only be committed by a male against a person. Also the UK has not to date followed the trend in many countries of classifying acts other than penetration with a penis (e.g. penetration with an object, finger) as rape. (Rape statistics United Kingdom. According to a report entitled “An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales”, released in 2013, by the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office; Approximately 85,000 victims of rape per year in England and Wales – 73,000 females and 12,000 males, equating to about 230 cases every day. The report stated that 1 in every 5 women has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16. (…). According to a study by the NSPCC on young people (aged between 13–18), a third of girls and 16 percent of boys have experienced sexual violence and that as many as 250,000 teenage girls are suffering from abuse at any one time. 12 percent of boys and 3 percent of girls reported committing sexual violence against their partners.

      Number 5; India

      Rape and Sexual violence is a massive problem in India. According to the National Crime Record Bureau (NCRB), crimes against women have increased by 7.5% since 2010. The number of reported rapes in India, a country of over 1.2 billion people, has gone up to 33,707 in 2013 from 24,923 in 2012. The majority of rape victims are between 18 years and 30 years. About one out of three victims is below 18, and one in ten rape victims is under 14. In India, a woman is raped after every 20 minutes.

      Number 6: New Zeeland

      In 2013, The Roast Busters scandal exposed the truth about rape in New Zealand. A group of young men from West Auckland, calling themselves “Roast Busters”, who allegedly sought to intoxicate underage girls to gang rape them. According to a report by British medical journal Lancet sexual assault rate in New Zealand is far higher than the world average. It placed the country at the third highest rate with 16.4 % of its female population, alongside Australia. According to the Minister of Justice Publication Report; Every two hours an attack involving sexual violence is happening in New Zealand. Statistics now suggest that 1 out of 3 girls and one out of six boys are likely to be sexually abused before the age of 16. Sexual assaults rose 15% in a year, and at schools the number doubled. Only 9 percent of sexual offences are reported (registered by police) in New Zealand. Of all the reported cases, only 13% end in a conviction. 91 % of the rapes either go unreported, or the victims are intimidated by the police to drop complaints.

      (Posted before on the wrong page. Apologies)

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    4. Carmen

      Actually on this point and only this point I kind of agree with GE. There’s just one sticky, niggling little detail. The usa, Canada, England, Wales, India, New Zealand, Denmark, etc., are all countries that don’t go by the moniker ‘Promised Land’ nor claim its Jewish citizens are ‘chosen people’, who have some kind of real estate deal with the Almighty. People tend to get pissed when someone or something presents itself or herself as the moral arbiter of all things good & holy (not to be confused with Good & Plenty, which really are what they claim) and then turn out not to be. So on that note, if you want to insist, as you should, that israel should be treated like every other country in the world, then israel has to end its occupation, some say 49 years, others say it’s been longer and leave the era of colonialism in the past, like some of the above countries have done.

      Just a suggestion? Maybe someone should tell Netyahoo to quit with the aggrandizement and just call it what it is, Palestine, without the accoutrements and hypocrisy. 🙂

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      • carmen

        Error – “nor claim its Jewish citizens are ‘chosen people’” is incorrect and should read: nor claim its citizens are ‘chosen people’.

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        • Gustav

          CARMEN:”Nor claim its citizens are ‘chosen people’.”

          No? Has anyone heard about the concept of American exceptionalism?

          Has anyone heard about the concept that only Christians go to heaven?

          Has anyone heard about the concept that only Muslims go to paradise?

          Having said that, only dishonest hateful people like Carmen make a big thing out of all that nonsense and emphasize only what SOME Jews believe.

          Normal everyday people, be it Christians, Muslims or Jews, live their mundane daily lives and don’t harp on being exceptional, chosen, or special people who exclusively alone go to heaven or paradise.

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          • Carmen

            “Has anyone heard about the concept of American exceptionalism?” Sure. It’s a campaign slogan used to sell wars on mostly brown, non-Judeo-Christians. So I’m assuming you’re in full agreement with the rest of my post? Sababa.

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          • Gustav

            Another dishonest response by our “paragon of virtue”, Carman…

            She made what she thought would be a nasty jibe against “chosen people” referring to Israelis even though it is a more general concept of religious Judaism…

            I then brought her down to earth with a bit of perspective and reminded her that such trivia could be used against others too if one chooses to hit Israel over the head with it. I mentioned the concept of …

            1. American exceptionalism.

            2. Christian self satisfaction about only Christians going the heaven…

            3. And of course Muslim supremacism about only Muslims making it to paradise…

            …and what was Carman’s feeble response? She sorta acknowledged American exceptionalism but completely ignored my points (2) and (3).

            It figures. It’s always the same pattern with Carman. She lobs a handgrenade, aimed at Jews (or as she would have you believe, at Israel only) then she ignores her own hypocrisy when the feebleness of humanity in general is pointed out to her. Or that her hand grenade is just a non point blown out of all proportion to reality.

            Our Carman is a bit like a dog which goes next to every lamp post, lifts it’s hind leg and marks it’s territory. A behavior acceptable from dogs but … oh on second thought it is the sorta thing one has come to expect from the Carmens of this world too. They are disgusting…

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          • Carmen

            “I then brought her down to earth with a bit of perspective”. You really believe that, huh? I’ve never come across someone who strokes his ego non-stop. That must be exhausting, unless of course you’re ambidextrous. What are you desperately trying to compensate for? Are you so threatened that you have to try to insult me (and you’ve insulted most every woman who has posted something you didn’t like) or act as though you’ve put me in my place or whatever it is you think you’re doing. You followed your baser instincts and came to an article about violence against women. And to prove Ms. Roth’s point, which didn’t need any help from you, there is definitely a problem in israel WRT violence against women. Ms. Eis made her statements WRT what about the USA, Australia, New Zealand, etc., being worse and my point was about the comparison and about the fact that some of those countries she pointed out had colonial pasts, but no longer. Israel is still occupying a population and that occupation is illegal per the UN. You focused on my remark about ‘chosen people’ and left out the rest. Fine. Then claim you ‘brought’ me down to earth. Well, since you said it, it must be true because you don’t lie (rolls eyes, laughs). And you say my response was ‘feeble’. What else could it be, I’m up against the likes of you! I’m just a woman! Oh God, what was I thinking (rolls eyes, more laughter)? I’m not interested in you understanding anything because history has shown me what I’m dealing with. You’re not meant to be taken seriously at all; that was my mistake from the get go. You really are just here for the comments and my (well everyone’s) amusement.

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          • Gustav

            Poor Carman. She (?) complains that we are off topic. And about me. We will just ignore me because contrary to Carman, I am not here about me. I am here to make the Carmans of this world look stupid when they give me an opportunity to do so. And she (?) did when she strayed off topic when she started talking about an insignificant irrelevancy just so she (?) can stick it a bit more to the Jewish state. What a stupid woman?

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    5. Elisabeth

      And look at these pictures presented by the IDF for international woman’s day:

      All the modern pictures are full of blond chicks. Even the only black (Ethiopian) woman in the pictures is blond! LOL.

      This makes you wonder: Aren’t Israeli Jews supposed to believe their ancestors were from the Middle East? Do they in reality prefer to see themselves as northern Europeans? Is this marketing of the IDF to horny males?

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    6. Elisabeth

      Here are all the blond IDF chicks being taken sooo seriously by their male colleagues. (Who would not think of harassing Arab women, hey Ginger?)

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    7. Cheema Khaled

      Brilliant article, Natasha.

      That last bit was a real zinger

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    8. Susan Edgington

      “That last bit is particularly telling — it sets up a paternalistic dynamic in which the woman is unequal, a creature to be protected by a trustworthy man. By a man that you listen to.”

      This paragraph alone proves the author hasn’t got a clue when Judaism holds the woman above all in higher esteem than Any rabbi. What a pathetic article

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    9. They don’t know what to respect and what to disrespect. They just understand women as S3x toys.

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    10. Abe Bird

      IDF soldiers are racists because the won’t rape the women of their enemy as US, EU and Russian soldiers do. Although it is wrong to rape a woman or to force her into having sex if she don’t want to, why Gentile soldiers have permission to?
      The Koran is a book of madness and if the Palestinian women are disappointed that the Jewish men won’t rape them then they need to pack up their things and go to Syria and Iraq where ISIS is and just spread their legs. It is beyond me how a people who are so abused and mistreated want to take this ideal around the world, the women of Islam are foolish as well as the non-Muslim women who are being raped, sure some of you out there think I am crazy, but take a note from a Jewish woman who killed Mohammad, she cooked his food, a roast lamb and she poisoned him, what I am saying is this, the women that are captured and have to have sex with all who comes to lay with her, if she is to prepare their food, she should lace it with poison, because once they finish with her, she will be killed any way. The Palestinian women should be thankful that GOD have men who won’t abuse them in time of war. Satan has these women confused, I am sure it has nothing to do with who the woman is, it is a matter of respect and these men of the IDF know it is a sin and that the LORD will not approve of this. In America you get prison time for rape even if you are married, if your wife refuse to have sex with you and you force her to, you can go to jail, yet in the Bible in 1st. Cor.7, it say that the wife body belongs to her husband as the man’s body belongs to his wife, the only time sex is not allowed is when a woman is on her cycle. It is sad that the Palestinian women feel this way, to me there are a lot of beautiful Muslim women and they should be looking for a man who will love them, they need to leave and go and look for a man who will love them and respect them. Islam want to take over America and apply their Sharia Laws, this will never happen, there are a lot of women here that will rather die then to be rape over and over again, if Hilary Clinton become president, she will try to take away our guns like Obama has been trying to do, she will keep all the ways of Obama, if we give up our guns we will have to surrender our freedom and Islam will began raping women daily and those who refuse will be beheaded. Where ever Islam goes so does rape crimes go. JESUS said watch as well as pray.

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