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'We demand international protection for journalists in Gaza'

The shooting death of photographer Yasser Murtaja by Israeli snipers has left no doubt among Gaza’s journalists that they are being targeted. Now they are demanding solidarity from Israeli journalists on the other side of the border.

By Meron Rapoport

Palestinians takes part in a protest against the killing of journalist Yasser Murtaja in Rafah, near the Israel-Gaza border, Gaza Strip, April 8, 2018. (Abed Rahim Khatib/ Flash90)

Palestinians takes part in a protest against the killing of journalist Yasser Murtaja in Rafah, near the Israel-Gaza border, Gaza Strip, April 8, 2018. (Abed Rahim Khatib/ Flash90)

Last Friday was a difficult one for journalists in Gaza. Journalist Yasser Murtaja was shot and killed near Khan Younis during Gaza’s “Great Return March” at the border with Israel, despite wearing a protective press jacket. According to reports, he was standing over 1,500 ft. from the border fence when he was killed by Israeli sniper fire. Just two weeks before his death, Murtaja published a post in which he expressed his wish to photograph Gaza’s port from the air. Since then, the post has turned into a symbol.

Murtaja was not the only journalist to be shot that day. Photographer Khalil Abu Aadra was also wearing a press jacket when he was shot and wounded in the leg. Palestinians report that a number of other journalists were wounded by IDF fire that day.

“Our message to journalists in Israel is that they must condemn attacks on journalists in Gaza,” says Mohammad Zaanoun, a photojournalist in Gaza who has been taking photos for Activestills over the past few weeks. Zaanoun has two siblings, Ibrahim and Islam, who are also photographers. Zaanoun says that his brother photographed the evacuation of one of the casualties east of Jabaliya refugee camp, approximately 1,600 feet from the fence, when he was shot in the hand. At the same time, Islam, who works for a Palestinian television network, was wounded by a tear gas canister fired by Israeli soldiers from across the border.

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“I think that the army directly targeted photographers last Friday,” says Zaanoun. “Look at the facts. Not a single journalist was wounded the previous Friday. We usually stand behind the demonstrators; it is difficult to stand up front because of the noise and the smoke. We do not endanger anyone, we only pass on photographs of what is happening. We are demanding for international protection for photographers. International law forbids harming journalists.” Zaanoun says that the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate filed a complaint with the International Criminal Court at the Hague following the attacks on journalists last Friday.

Palestinians hold a funeral for photographer Yasser Murtaja, who was shot and killed by Israeli snipers while covering Gaza's 'Great Return March,' April 7, 2018. (Muhammad Zanoun)

Palestinians hold a funeral for photographer Yasser Murtaja, who was shot and killed by Israeli snipers while covering Gaza’s ‘Great Return March,’ April 7, 2018. (Mohammad Zaanoun)

Zaanoun used to be in touch with Israeli journalists, who before the blockade on Gaza would often sleep in the offices belonging to Palestinian media outlets. In 2006, Zaanoun was severely wounded by an Israeli missile while photographing in Gaza City’s Shuja’iyya neighborhood for Ma’an News Agency. He was hospitalized for nearly a year in Soroka Hospital in Israel (which he calls “Soroka Military Hospital”), and remembers how journalists from Yedioth Ahronoth, as well as Palestinian journalists would visit him.

“It does not matter to me whether a journalist is Israeli or Palestinian, or what his religion is,” says Zaanoun. “We need to respect everyone. I wouldn’t accept anything happening to an Israeli journalist.”

Meron Rapoport is an Israeli journalist and an editor for Local Call, where this article was first published in Hebrew. Read it here.

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    1. Itshak Gordin Halevy

      Our Defense minister has just given the information that this journalist was a corporal of the terrorist group Hamas. He also tried to spy on Israel using a drone.

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      • Bruce Gould

        @Itshak: Here’s a slightly less one-dimensional view of Murtaja and the whole situation, from the Guardian:

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/09/gaza-protests-palestinians-israeli-siege-occupation-marches

        Yasser tried repeatedly to apply for the right to travel out of Gaza, but each attempt failed. He was widely mourned by his friends and colleagues, the vast majority of whom, like him, have never in their lives been outside of Gaza. His generation was born into the first intifada, witnessed the second intifada, survived three major Israeli military onslaughts on the Gaza Strip, and continue to live under siege. Moreover, of the 2 million people who live in Gaza, two-thirds are descendants of refugees from nearby towns and villages that were destroyed upon the creation of Israel in 1948, and all are victims of an ongoing Israeli blockade that has turned Gaza into the world’s largest open prison.

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        • Ido

          The blockade on Gaza is the direct result of the Palestinians’ own actions, or more accurately, the Palestinian leadership. They call for the elimination of Israel, they declared war on Israel, they attacked Israel with thousands of missiles and rockets. Those terror tunnels in Israel’s side are not for smuggling, they are for murdering Israelis.

          Why do you treat the Palestinians like infants with no responsibility for their own actions ? following Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza, the Palestinians had a chance to show the world their peaceful intentions and will to co-exist with Israel. They decided to move their missile and rocket launchers closer to the border for better aim at Israeli civilians and they elected an Islamic Jihadist terrorist organization with “Death to Israel” as a primary goal to lead them.

          Also why do you neglect to mention that Gaza has a border with a country other than Israel ? which is not under Israel’s control ?

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      • Ben

        Lieberman is a brazen liar, and you’re his henchman:

        Contrary to an earlier statement by Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Saturday, the Israel Defense Forces said they are not aware of any use of drones by Palestinians during last Friday’s demonstration near the fence along the Gaza border….
        Photographs and video clips of Murtaja do not show a drone. Murtaja is seen wearing a blue vest that said “Press” on it in English when he was wounded. The Palestinian Journalists’ Syndicate said Murtaja was standing about 350 meters from the border fence when he was shot….
        Besides the slain Yaser Murtaja, four other journalists were injured by live fire during the demonstrations on Friday, one of them critically.
        The IDF Spokesman did not mention reports on the use of drones.
        Haaretz has not yet received a response from Lieberman on the matter.
        https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-no-evidence-to-lieberman-s-claim-that-slain-gaza-journalist-had-drone-1.5979315

        —-
        But what’s new? The entire occupation. Is based on lies.

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        • Ido

          You’re joking, right ? so because he has a vest with the word “press” on it, it means he couldn’t also be a Hamas terrorist ? are you even aware that many of the UN workers in Gaza are also working for the various terrorist organizations ? the head of UNRWA, for example ?
          https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-agency-no-longer-employing-gaza-staffer-accused-of-hamas-ties/

          Are you even aware of the use of journalists, ambulances, aid convoys, etc by Palestinian terrorist organizations for terrorism ? all of this is a basically a Palestinian tradition by now. Would you like examples ? how about this “journalist”:

          http://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/terrorist-neutralized-near-beit-el/2017/12/15/

          When you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • john

            neither of your links provide evidence that yasser murtaja was connected to hamas.

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          • john

            but at least you can acknowledge the palestinian people and narrative, even if you think they’re deceitful and disagree completely; itshak thinks the settlements are a positive good for israel – you don’t, and lewis thinks palestinians aren’t people at all – you do. instead of berating ben, your countrymen are the ones you have the power to convince.

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          • Ben

            Ido Geller:

            Firstly, you’re a troll. You with the habitual verbal tic of “You’re joking, right?” should get another line. We are most definitely not joking about the cold-blooded, summary execution without trial, aka murder, aka war crime, of a journalist based on someone’s casual assumption, someone’s blithe idea of what he “could” be; and just because they can; and based on their main actual criterion: resisting occupation while Arab or practicing journalism while Arab. Basically, murder as a protest discouragement technique.

            Secondly, see Bradley Burston’s article below.
            By your reasoning, everybody in the Likud and Jewish Home parties is a “terrorist.” Worthy of capital punishment without trial, of summary execution without trial based on the Palestinian’s assumptions; and all the Israeli journalists who so eagerly do the IDF’s bidding are “terrorists” masquerading as journalists and worthy of summary execution without trial; and all the Magen David personnel who stood by and withheld medical care to every wounded Palestinian are “terrorists” worthy of summary execution without trial. In fact, by your reasoning, you, too, Ido Geller, are a “terrorist.”

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          • Ido

            @Ben, if calling me a troll is your way of again refusing to answer the questions I posted and to address the facts which apparently you have a lot of trouble facing (again) I’m not judging.
            I said “you’re joking right ?” because you don’t seem to be aware of the Palestinians’ tradition of using jlurnalists as a cover for terrorism or Hamas terrorists masquerading as “press”. This is well documents and I provided examples.

            Israel warned Hamas not to send people to breach the border, not to shoot at Israelis at the border, not to use firebombs and explosives and try to breach the border, otherwise Israel will use any means necessary to stop them including fire live ammo which they did.
            Are you even aware of hamas’ prices list for each task ? got to keep the fodder near the cannons. Wounded will get $200, seriously wounded $500, families of dead protesters get a payday of $3,000:
            https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5221045,00.html

            Calling it “summary execution without trial, aka murder, aka war crime” shows the deep of your delusional bias. Asking them nicely not to shoot at israelis or try to breach the border into Israel didn’t seem to work. Israel has every right to defend its border from an enemy trying to breach it or harm its soldiers.

            Since the “March of Return” failed, Hamas were desperate for a winning photo, Palestinians storming the border into Israel, preferably with some dead Jews in the background no doubt. Not going to happen. By any means necessary. I would call it a success, not a single Israeli was hurt, not even when Palestinians tried to breach the border while shooting live ammo, I’m sure you saw the video.
            “resisting occupation” ? really ? then why do you think the word “return” appears in the March’s title ? why do you repeatedly refuse to address the fact that Hamas, who paid for and organized this march, say that the entire land of Israel is theirs ? that they call for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews ? and Gaza is not occupied, there is a blockade because of the Palestinians own actions.

            “By your reasoning, everybody in the Likud and Jewish Home parties is a “terrorist.” – why are you lying about me again ? I never said everyone in Gaza is a terrorist, my reasoning ? about 99% of the protesters didn’t die or were hurt, obviously this means Israel was blindly shooting everyone in Gaza, right ?
            “by your reasoning, you, too, Ido Geller, are a “terrorist.” – for pointing out facts you repeatedly refuse to address ? let’s start with the one you ignored in the post above:
            When you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ben

            Blah blah blah… another troll’s glaring non-answer. You do not post “facts” you post propaganda and irrelevancies that you call “facts” and then taunt people for not taking your “facts” and irrelevancies seriously. I can already see your reply: “Oh yeah Ben what about this fact….”
            It is you that quite glaringly cannot admit never mind face the fact that an innocent journalist clearly marked as such was assassinated in cold blood. Along with four other journalists shot the same day. Yep. You’re a troll. A classic one in fact. A very typical one.

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          • Ido

            Fact: Palestinians have been using “journalist” as cover for terrorism. Fact: Palestinians consider all of Israel as “the occupation”, Fact: Hamas’ goal is the elimination of Israel, fact: Israel uses live ammo on those who get too close to its borders, on those who fire live ammo, uses firebombs, tries to destroy the fence into Israel, etc. This is not random as evident by the data I mentioned which you ignored.

            Fact: you repeatedly ignore answering questions like you just did, again. I lost count how many times.
            Fact: you can’t wrap your head around the fact that “but he was marked as a journalist!” is an excuse of a 6 year old child who can’t comprehend that anyone with a “Press” vest can also be a terrorist, as I proved in my previous posts this is a Palestinian old tactic. Fact: don’t want to get shot ? don’t try to kill Israelis or mess around with Israel’s borders. 99% of the protesters didn’t and they were not harmed. Fact: Hamas pays protesters to provoke the Israelis at the border, they have a list of amount per action (see my link in the previous post). They use their own people as cannon fodder for propaganda.

            Let’s try again from the top: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ben

            Fact: your last paragraph is propaganda and manipulation. Do not serve me patronizing BS like “Let’s try this again” again.

            Fact: 90% of the material above that paragraph fits my previous description of it.

            Fact: you fit my description of you.

            Fact: “you repeatedly ignore” is a transparent and by now inane troll gambit.

            Fact (and the only one here that matters): a journalist was assassinated. Knowingly. And what’s more you know it.

            Fact (ok, this one also matters): “anyone with a “Press” vest can also be” is your shockingly yet quite typical Israeli cavalierness and blitheness with non-Jewish lives. It’s racist. Not to mention murderous.

            Fact: you’re trying to punch way above your weight, Ido. You won’t quit because that’s not how a troll behaves in its natural habitat.

            Fact: I’m grateful to you for the quite useful foil that you are. Keep up the good work.

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          • Ido

            Calling the basis of the Palestinian narrative, the cause of their refusal to accept Israel’s existence, the core of their ideology: the fact that they see all of Israel as “Palestine” from the river to the sea as “propaganda and manipulation” goes beyond detachment from reality. This refusal to grasp reality, especially when they are yelling in in your face (see 2 weeks ago) demands psychological study.

            And of course you didn’t answer the question, for the 14 or 15th time ?
            I’ll try again, maybe you missed it: When you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ben

            The IDF in fact, functions like a terrorist organization. For too long now right wing Israelis have dressed the other side up as “terrorists” and themselves up as “not terrorists.” It is time to stop playing this game. For too long people like you tell us that every brutal dispossession and land theft and detention without due process and nighttime raid and blatant assault is not its own form of terror. For too long you’ve tried to tell us that the IDF’s and the settlers’ very impunity is not its own form of terror.

            Do you mean to tell us that those IDF snipers shooting civilians from three hundred fifty meters and behind a fence are not terrorists? You mean they are not real?
            You mean those settlers beating up 64-year-old shepherds are not terrorists? You mean those settlers are not real? We dreamed them up?
            You mean those army troops dragging innocent people out of bed at 3AM in sleeping villages for practice, because they can, are not terrorists? We dreamed of them? For fifty years?
            You mean those IDF standing idly by while settlers burn or chop up olive groves are not terrorists? The tree destroyers are not terrorists? We imagined them? For fifty years?
            You mean the army and Shin Bet goons who torture false confessions out of prisoners in Israeli prisons, prisoners held incognito and without due process, are not terrorists? Really? This does not happen?
            You mean that the Israeli agents who drag children from their parents and hold them without access to their parents are not terrorists?
            You mean the people who extracted a “confession” of falling off a bicycle from Ahed Tamimi’s 15-year-old cousin, a boy with half his skull missing due to an IDF bullet to the head, are not terrorists? We imagined this?
            You mean the Members of Knesset and the Ministers who say, in order to frighten ordinary people away from protesting, that “they, all 50,000 protesting, are ‘targets,’” that they who say this are not terrorists? If they are Likud members you want to insist that the Likud is not then a terrorist organization? For real?
            You mean to tell us that the right wing Israelis, including highly placed government officials, who threaten Palestinians with mass transfer and a second Nakba are not terrorists?
            Do you mean to tell us that the arbitrary locking up with denial of a public trial and the forced plea deal exacted on Ahed Tamimi and thousands of others, while Israeli Jews are never similarly treated, is not a form of terror? We imagined Ahed Tamimi and a thousand others?
            You mean to tell us that the systematic destruction of Palestinian society by undercover operations, including as just one example, coldly terrorizing gay Palestinians with exposure and shaming (all the while pink-washing with gusto on the other side of the coin) is not a form of terror?
            Do you mean to tell us that the use of mista’arvim to goad non-violent protestors in to violence, to convert peaceful protests into violent ones, is not terrorism? We imagined all this?
            I could of course, go on, with a thousand other examples.

            I submit that you’re quite full of it, Mr. Geller. For too long you’ve traded too easily in this false currency of “they’re all ‘terrorists’ and we are not.”

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          • Ido

            The IDF defends the borders of Israel from anyone who attempts to cross it, especially ones paid and controlled by Jihadist Islamic terrorist organizations like Hamas.
            “right wing Israelis have dressed the other side up as “terrorists”: what ? so Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc are what exactly ? how can you be this delusional that you don’t know what they are and what their goals are ?
            Again you ignore the fact that Israel tried several times to negotiate for peace with the Palestinians but the Palestinians repeatedly refused any and all attempts. Because accepting them will ensure Israel continues to exist.
            “Do you mean to tell us that those IDF snipers shooting civilians from three hundred fifty meters and behind a fence are not terrorists?” of course not. Don’t you think it’s odd that so far 20 out of the 34 “civilian” dead are confirmed to be active terrorists belonging to terrorist organizations ?
            http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/great-return-march-interim-report-updated-april-9-2018/

            Almost as if Israel is very selective is who they shoot. How come 99% of the protesters who are close to the border are not shot ?

            “You mean those settlers beating up 64-year-old shepherds are not terrorists?” – if anyone did that without any just cause, they are. So do you agree that all the Palestinian terrorist organizations, including Fatah, who call for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of Jews and act upon it are terrorists ?
            “You mean those army troops dragging innocent people out of bed at 3AM in sleeping villages for practice, because they can, are not terrorists?” – not if they have a good reason to do so.

            “The tree destroyers are not terrorists?” – which ones ? the Palestinians are documented destroying trees belonging to Jews as well.

            “You mean the army and Shin Bet goons who torture false confessions out of prisoners in Israeli prisons, prisoners held incognito and without due process” – oh yes, they were arrested for bringing presents to orphans no doubt, not trying to kill anyone, right ?
            “You mean that the Israeli agents who drag children from their parents and hold them without access to their parents are not terrorists?” – “children” ? you mean the 16 year olds who try to bash car windshields in with bricks ?
            “You mean the people who extracted a “confession” of falling off a bicycle from Ahed Tamimi’s 15-year-old cousin, a boy with half his skull missing due to an IDF bullet to the head, are not terrorists?” – those must be one of those new rubber bullets, the exploding kind which doesn’t exist:
            http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Tamimi-family-and-IDF-spar-over-truth-in-teens-skull-injury-543738

            “all 50,000 protesting, are ‘targets,’” that they who say this are not terrorists?” – all 50,000 were shot ? when did that happen ? if you’re going to take a hyperbole by idiots politicians like Lieberman who has no relation to what happens in reality, you have much better examples to pull from.

            “threaten Palestinians with mass transfer and a second Nakba are not terrorists?” – again, this has as much chance of happening as having the Palestinians declare that they accept Israel’s existence as the homeland of the Jewish people. Politicians talk nonsense, any of this actually happened ?

            You talk about destruction of Palestinian society without even touching on what the Palestinians do, about Arab tribalism and Islamic fanaticism which destroys any chance of them joining the 21th century.
            “coldly terrorizing gay Palestinians” – where did you hear that nonsense ? are you even aware what Palestinians (and Arab society in general) does to gay Arabs ? by their own families ?
            “convert peaceful protests into violent ones” – what’s with the lying again ? you have any idea how many lives mista’arvim units saved ? and you seem to be very confused what “peaceful protests” look like. What is happening in Gaza near the border is very, very far from it.

            “I submit that you’re quite full of it” – you haven’t addressed one, even one of the facts I mentioned.
            And I repeat for the 14th time: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ido

            Ben, The IDF defends the borders of Israel from anyone who attempts to cross it, especially ones paid and controlled by Jihadist Islamic terrorist organizations like Hamas.
            “right wing Israelis have dressed the other side up as “terrorists”: what ? so Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc are what exactly ? how can you be this delusional that you don’t know what they are and what their goals are ?
            Again you ignore the fact that Israel tried several times to negotiate for peace with the Palestinians but the Palestinians repeatedly refused any and all attempts. Because accepting them will ensure Israel continues to exist.
            Don’t you think it’s odd that so far 20 out of the 34 “civilian” dead are confirmed to be active terrorists belonging to terrorist organizations ?
            http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/great-return-march-interim-report-updated-april-9-2018/

            Almost as if Israel is very selective is who they shoot. How come 99% of the protesters who are close to the border are not shot ?

            “You mean those settlers beating up 64-year-old shepherds are not terrorists?” – if anyone did that without any just cause, they are criminals. So do you agree that all the Palestinian terrorist organizations, including Fatah, who call for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of Jews and act upon it are terrorists ?
            “You mean those army troops dragging innocent people out of bed at 3AM in sleeping villages for practice, because they can, are not terrorists?” – not if they have a good reason to do so which saves lives.

            “The tree destroyers are not terrorists?” – which ones ? the Palestinians are documented destroying trees belonging to Jews as well.

            “You mean the army and Shin Bet goons who torture false confessions out of prisoners in Israeli prisons, prisoners held incognito and without due process” – oh yes, they were arrested for bringing presents to orphans no doubt, not trying to kill anyone, right ?
            “You mean that the Israeli agents who drag children from their parents and hold them without access to their parents are not terrorists?” – “children” ? you mean the 16 year olds who try to bash car windshields in with bricks ?
            “You mean the people who extracted a “confession” of falling off a bicycle from Ahed Tamimi’s 15-year-old cousin, a boy with half his skull missing due to an IDF bullet to the head, are not terrorists?” – those must be one of those new rubber bullets, the exploding kind which doesn’t exist:
            http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Tamimi-family-and-IDF-spar-over-truth-in-teens-skull-injury-543738

            “all 50,000 protesting, are ‘targets,’” that they who say this are not terrorists?” – all 50,000 were shot ? when did that happen ? if you’re going to take a hyperbole by idiots politicians like Lieberman who has no relation to what happens in reality, you have much better examples to pull from.

            “threaten Palestinians with mass transfer and a second Nakba are not terrorists?” – again, this has as much chance of happening as having the Palestinians declare that they accept Israel’s existence as the homeland of the Jewish people. Politicians talk nonsense, any of this actually happened ?

            You talk about destruction of Palestinian society without even touching on what the Palestinians do, about Arab tribalism and Islamic fanaticism which destroys any chance of them joining the 21th century.
            “coldly terrorizing gay Palestinians” – where did you hear that nonsense ? are you even aware what Palestinians (and Arab society in general) does to gay Arabs ? by their own families ?
            “convert peaceful protests into violent ones” – what’s with the lying again ? you have any idea how many lives mista’arvim units saved ? and you seem to be very confused what “peaceful protests” look like. What is happening in Gaza near the border is very, very far from it.

            “I submit that you’re quite full of it” – you haven’t addressed one, even one of the facts I mentioned.
            And I repeat for the 14th time: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ido

            Ben: “You mean the army and Shin Bet goons who torture false confessions out of prisoners in Israeli prisons, prisoners held incognito and without due process” – oh yes, they were arrested for bringing presents to orphans no doubt, nothing to do with terrorism, right ?
            “You mean that the Israeli agents who drag children from their parents and hold them without access to their parents are not terrorists?” – “children” ? you mean the 16 year olds who try to bash car windshields in with bricks ?
            “You mean the people who extracted a “confession” of falling off a bicycle from Ahed Tamimi’s 15-year-old cousin, a boy with half his skull missing due to an IDF bullet to the head, are not terrorists?” – those must be one of those new rubber bullets, the exploding kind which doesn’t exist:
            http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Tamimi-family-and-IDF-spar-over-truth-in-teens-skull-injury-543738

            “all 50,000 protesting, are ‘targets,’” that they who say this are not terrorists?” – all 50,000 were shot ? when did that happen ? if you’re going to take a hyperbole by idiots politicians like Lieberman who has no relation to what happens in reality, you have much better examples to pull from.

            “threaten Palestinians with mass transfer and a second Nakba are not terrorists?” – again, this has as much chance of happening as having the Palestinians declare that they accept Israel’s existence as the homeland of the Jewish people. Politicians talk nonsense, any of this actually happened ?

            You talk about destruction of Palestinian society without even touching on what the Palestinians do, about Arab tribalism and Islamic fanaticism which destroys any chance of them joining the 21th century.
            “coldly terrorizing gay Palestinians” – where did you hear that nonsense ? are you even aware what Palestinians (and Arab society in general) does to gay Arabs ? by their own families ?
            “convert peaceful protests into violent ones” – what’s with the lying again ? you have any idea how many lives mista’arvim units saved ? and you seem to be very confused what “peaceful protests” look like. What is happening in Gaza near the border is very, very far from it.

            “I submit that you’re quite full of it” – you haven’t addressed one, even one of the facts I mentioned.
            And I repeat for the 14th time: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • Ido

            Ben, The IDF defends the borders of Israel from anyone who attempts to cross it, especially ones paid and controlled by Jihadist Islamic terrorist organizations like Hamas.
            “right wing Israelis have dressed the other side up as “terrorists”: what ? so Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc are what exactly ? how can you be this delusional that you don’t know what they are and what their goals are ?
            Again you ignore the fact that Israel tried several times to negotiate for peace with the Palestinians but the Palestinians repeatedly refused any and all attempts. Because accepting them will ensure Israel continues to exist.
            “Do you mean to tell us that those IDF snipers shooting civilians from three hundred fifty meters and behind a fence are not terrorists?” of course not. Don’t you think it’s odd that so far 20 out of the 34 “civilian” dead are confirmed to be active terrorists belonging to terrorist organizations ?
            http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/great-return-march-interim-report-updated-april-9-2018/

            Almost as if Israel is very selective is who they shoot. How come 99% of the protesters who are close to the border are not shot ?

            “You mean those settlers beating up 64-year-old shepherds are not terrorists?” – if anyone did that without any just cause, they are. So do you agree that all the Palestinian terrorist organizations, including Fatah, who call for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of Jews and act upon it are terrorists ?
            “You mean those army troops dragging innocent people out of bed at 3AM in sleeping villages for practice, because they can, are not terrorists?” – not if they have a good reason to do so.

            “The tree destroyers are not terrorists?” – which ones ? the Palestinians are documented destroying trees belonging to Jews as well.

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          • Ben

            All of this exposes quite nicely what a severe troll I am dealing with, the layers of hypocrisy, the sheer ignorance—“where did you hear that nonsense ?”—the contempt, the unbelievable contempt, the intractable distortions, the cocoon of propaganda lived in.
            I could go through each item and dismantle it but I won’t. That’s what internet trolls want. And then they are off and running again with another round of the same and around and around we go. And it will be fruitless.
            That you won’t get any of this is diagnostic. Pathognomonic.

            I am quite content to let the last exchange stand. I’ve fully achieved my aims.

            As to your aims, I have to ask, are you working for these guys? “Media operations” of the army’s “operations” arm?

            The Israeli army’s war on consciousness
            https://972mag.com/israels-war-on-consciousness/134610/

            Don’t answer. No answer you could give would be meaningful.

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          • Ido

            Ben, point to anything I said and prove me wrong. Why is this so hard for you ?
            Let’s start from the top: Hamas are an Islamic Jihadist terrorist organization who see all of Israel as “Palestine”, their goal is the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews. Go ahead.

            “I’ve fully achieved my aims.” if your aim was to show how you have no idea what you’re talking about, how you are clueless of reality and real world events and facts then sure, you’ve done a great job.

            “I have to ask, are you working for these guys?” – yes sure, why not. If that’s the excuse you’re going to use now so you won’t have to address the facts again, I’m not judging. The cognitive dissonance of realizing that you’re wrong along with your pre-conditioned bias and ignorance must be excruciating.

            So I ask again, 15th time: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?

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          • john

            i’ll repeat that neither of your links provide evidence that yasser murtaja was connected to hamas.

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          • Ben

            Ido Geller: “So I ask again, 15th time: when you say ‘the entire occupation’ do you, like the Palestinians, mean the entire land of Israel from the river to the sea ?”

            Just to put out of its misery this repetitive, stupid and quite typical manipulation of yours, no, I don’t mean that. Nor do “the Palestinians.” Neither does Abu Mazen mean that, i.e., that even if he considers the entire land river to sea to be Palestine, just as you consider the entire land river to sea to be Israel (you just said it) nevertheless he has made it quite clear that he seeks a reasonable compromise in a lasting 2SS, and plans to “visit Safed as a tourist.”
            But you’re not interested in that. You’re interested in simplistic obfuscations ad Infinitum. Making you a five-letter word beginning with “T”.

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          • Ben

            And to further clarify, Ido Geller, because I know you’re still not going to get it and you’re going to come back with some quote about the occupation of ’48 or some Palestinians saying they consider the river to sea to be occupied:

            Your friends Halevy and Lewis from Afula and thousands of Israelis like them fervently believe that the West Bank and Gaza are Arab-occupied Jewish land. You have admitted that you think something similar, above. Why shouldn’t the Palestinians consider the land they were cleansed from occupied? In principle. The point is that there are plenty of people on both sides that Israel could work with and could actually quite easily forge a 2SS with security and with limited or token RoR, etc., etc. But Israel very obviously doesn’t want to work with them and does its best, pouring huge resources and ingenuity, into sabotaging any true working with moderates. It reserves its greatest vituperation for the moderates. I could find a quote from Lieberman supporting this in 30 seconds by google search.

            But what you incessantly do is draw a false equation, set up a false balance sheet in counterfeit currency: “‘they’ are terrorists and we are not, ‘they’ want to destroy us but none of us would think of doing that to them.”
            That makes you a five letter word beginning with “T”. As I said.

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          • Ido

            Ben, I don’t agree with Halevy and Lewis or anyone else who thinks like them.
            “You have admitted that you think something similar, above” – why are you lying about me again ?
            Why shouldn’t the Palestinians consider the land they were cleansed from occupied?” – they don’t “consider”, they call for the elimination of Israel, do you understand ? is this concept too difficult for you to grasp ?
            And it’s not “In principle”. You haven’t listened to what their leaders say ? you haven’t read their declaration of goals ? you think they are not serious about this ? Islamic Jihadist terrorist organizations are known for their wacky sense of humor, right ?
            “Israel very obviously doesn’t want to work with them” – the ones who rejected every peace offer and refuse to accept the existence of Israel are the Palestinians. You seem to have a hard time coming to terms with this fact.
            You keep bringing Lieberman as he has some kind of actual effect. Point to anything he said which he actually did, in reality.
            “‘they’ are terrorists and we are not” – I ask again: Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc are what exactly ? how can you be this delusional that you don’t know what they are and what their goals are ?

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          • Ido

            @Ben, when you say “nor do the Palestinians” do you understand that it means that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about ? both Fatah and Hamas, the leaders of both Palestinian factions say openly and very, very clearly by any possible means (official charter, speeches, official symbols, education, Islamic sermons, etc) that they see all of Israel, from the River to the Sea, as theirs. As “Palestine”. This is fact. Do you think they are joking when the say so ?
            do you think the map on the official PLO emblem is a printing error ? showing the entire land of Israel as “Palestine” ? do you think when the Palestinian President said a future “Palestine” will be Jew-free he was kidding ? do you think the official symbols and charters of terrorist organizations like Hamas who very, very clearly show all of Israel as theirs, draped by a Palestinian flag, is a joke ?
            Do you understand that what you are saying contradicts reality ?
            And since you obviously can’t use Google, which of the facts I stated here would you like to see ? pick whatever you like. I can flood the pages here with proof.

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          • Ben

            Aw, Ido is losing his temper now.

            1. What are they (Islamic jihad etc)? They are extremists. Of which the Israeli side has plenty of its own variety.
            And you prove over and over that you just don’t get it.
            Q. E. D.

            2. Just to take a single example of your inveterate distortion mongering (and one really has to wonder if you are truly this ignorant. If so, wow; if not, wow again):

            “do you think when the Palestinian President said a future “Palestine” will be Jew-free he was kidding ?”

            Abu Mazen did not say this. He said he foresaw there would be no Israeli citizen settlers or Israeli soldiers in a state of Palestine. “Jew-free” is the settlers’ anti-Semitizing distortion of this.

            Which really takes us back to my main charges against you: You dumb down this site terribly, and your habits make you a five-letter word beginning with “T”.

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          • Ido

            Ben, thanks for the laugh.
            Anyway: yes, Israel has extremists. But they don’t lead Israel. Can you say the same of Hamas and Fatah ? who call for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews ? do you understand the difference or is this too difficult for you ?
            I like the Q.E.D thing. Very persuasive.

            “Abu Mazen did not say this”. Yes, yes he did:
            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170404

            He specifically said Israeli, not settler. I quote: “civilian or soldier”. Caught you in a lie again or you simply had no idea ?

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          • Ben

            Extremists don’t lead Israel? My eyes almost popped out of head with that one. Excuse me? They’re all over the Knesset and Cabinet. This is again your blithe “they are extremists we are not, they are terrorists we are not” song and dance.

            And since when is Abu Mazen an “extremist”? Because you say so?

            And in response to my pointing out your blatant anti-Semitizing what do you do? You serve up a choice, blatant, transparent piece of anti-Semitizing by a right wing nationalist site:

            “Arab affairs expert Dalit Halevy explained that when Abbas speaks of “Israelis”, he in fact means “Jews.” (Love that “explained.” LoL. Another one of Ido Geller’s famous “facts” that he says I have to “refute.”)

            I can hardly believe you’re so brazen as to pretend you don’t see the distinction between “Israeli” and “Jew.” Or so brazen as to pretend you don’t see the anti-Semitizing you’re engaging in.

            And what “lie” is it you caught me in, you inveterate slanderer? That I paraphrased Abbas as saying “Israeli civilian settler” instead of “Israeli civilian”? Wowee. Excuse me but what’s the difference as a description of Israelis inside the West Bank? Pray tell. Why would a Palestinian leader at this point agree to have Israeli citizens living in a Palestinian State after 50 years of brutal occupation by same? Would Netanyahu agree to have the future citizens of the state of Palestine live in Ra’anana? He won’t let even a single refugee who used to live in what is now Israel return. Not a single one. For a nuanced discussion of this, and on what Abbas actually said, not your promiscuous, calculatedly anti-Semitizing distortions of what he said, read this:
            https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/will-jews-be-able-to-live-in-a-future-palestinian-state/251059/

            More to follow.

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          • Ben

            It is you, in fact, Ido Geller, who lied, on the face of it, when you said, and I quote: “do you think when the Palestinian President said a future “Palestine” will be Jew-free he was kidding?”

            You are in fact propagating an inveterate, pernicious right wing extremist lie peddled by none other than Benjamin Netanyahu. (There are no extremists elected in Israel? Yeah? Netanyahu walks like an extremist, talks like an extremist, and quacks like an extremist.)

            US State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau, speaking US diplomat-speak in response to this lie by Netanyahu, said, “We obviously strongly disagree with the characterization that those who oppose settlement activity or view it as an obstacle to peace are somehow calling for ethnic cleansing of Jews from the West Bank. We believe that using that type of terminology is inappropriate and unhelpful.” And that’s the endlessly forbearing, excusing, coddling US State Department.

            How do you expect us to ever take you seriously, Ido Geller? Credibility is earned not granted.

            But I’m having fun exposing your antics. You’re the gift that keeps on giving. Because you are representative of the typical right wing or, excuse me, “centrist,” Israeli and his shenanigans. And you make it easy. Keep up the good work.

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          • Ido

            Ben, I lost count how many times I proved you wrong and how many times you lied about me. How many sections of my posts you simply ignore, maybe you think I don’t notice ?
            “US State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau..” – Netanyahu was talking about Jews remaining in the West Bank as part of a future peace agreement. Then how would you call a Jew-Free West-Bank ? Abu Mazen’s demand ?
            The Germans had a word for it, it was ‘Judenrein’.
            Would you like me to list all of the points I made proving you wrong ? proving your ignorance and lies ? I can try but it’s a long list: Hamas and other terrorist using “press” as cover, Palestinians consider all of Israel as “the occupation”, The fact that Israel is not randomly shooting protesters as evident by the actual numbers and how more than half of them are active terrorists, how Hamas pays people to provoke the Israelis at the border, literally paying them to get hurt, how the demonstrations are the opposite of “peaceful non-violent”,
            lying about me, claiming I said everyone in Gaza is a terrorist, Palestinians see all of israel as theirs, from the river to the sea, the Palestinian leadership, Hamas and Fatah, call for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews, how Israel accepted the two state solution, offered pace agreements, etc.how you completely ignore the goals and actions of the Palestinians, as if Israel acts in a vacuum, lying about me again: saying that I’m “thinking something similar to Halevy and Lewis”.
            This is from the top of my head just on this page. Would you like more ? many examples in this page as well:
            https://972mag.com/photos-life-inside-gazas-return-march-protest-camp/134613

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          • Ido

            Ben, the comments section is broken again. I hope you don’t mind if I reply here:
            You don’t seem to grasp the difference between Israel’s Prime Minister and his ruling party who officially accepted the two state solution, the sovereignty of Gaza and the Palestinian Authority, who made peace agreement offers to the Palestinians, whose actions are a response to the Palestinians’ actions, with an Islamic Jihadist terrorist organization who openly calls for the elimination of Israel and the murder of Jews.
            As if I needed any more proof that you have absolutely no idea who leads the Palestinians and what are their goals. I’m still waiting for your examples of anything Lieberman did in reality.
            You have no idea what ‘terrorist’ means, you are yet to address the multiple times where I explained who rule the Palestinians, in detail.
            Abu Mazen rules a political body with its own terrorist organizations, most known is Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, and they see all of Israel as theirs, they openly call for the elimination of Israel and literally fund the murder of Jews, most notably with their ‘Pay for Slay’ program.
            He is also an Anti-Seimite and a Holocaust denier with a PhD in anti-semitism, literally:
            http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/170686/mahmoud-abbas-still-a-holocaust-denier

            The article I linked explained, very, very clearly what Abbas meant, since ‘Israel’ also defines many Arabs who live in Israel.
            Not only did I catch you in a lie again (he said settlers! not Israelis!) but you are failing to grasp what is common sense to anyone who are familiar with the conflict and how the Palestinians view Israelis.
            You “paraphrased”.. that is hilarious. It would be more plausible if you said your evil twin said “no Israeli citizen settlers or Israeli soldiers” ?

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          • Ido

            Ben, Tell me, how many Jews live in the Palestinian Authority ? hint: you can’t count them on 1 hand. How many Arabs/Muslims/Palestinians live in Israel ? who is the racist ?
            You obviously had no idea what is the distinction between ‘Israeli’ and Jew’. One is a citizenship and one is a nationality.
            “Why would a Palestinian leader at this point agree to have Israeli citizens living in a Palestinian State after 50 years of brutal occupation by same” ? first, good that you came to terms with your latest lie. Second, you just explained yourself that he meant Jews since there are many Arab Israeli citizens who he’ll be happy to have. Thank you.
            “Would Netanyahu agree to have the future citizens of the state of Palestine live in Ra’anana?” – Arab citizens, who I’m sure some see themselves as Palestinians, live in Ra’anana just like they live in other places in Israel. 20% of Israelis are Arabs.
            “He won’t let even a single refugee who used to live in what is now Israel return” – Mainly because almost all of them are not refugees:
            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/21556
            He will when the Arabs allow the 850,000 Jews who fled at around the same time from Arab/Islamic countries return or receive their property back.
            Look, I don’t need more examples showing you have no idea what you’re talking about but thanks anyway.
            ” read this:” – why would any Jew want to live in a failed state ? what kind of country do you think it would be ? like Sweden ? or like any other Arab country, shining examples of democracy, tolerance, secularism and human rights ?

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          • Ben

            Your mountain of ignorance I am not prepared to climb today. Better things to do. But I’ll look at this over the next few days if I have a chance.

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          • Ben

            Thanks. Been there done that. Not impressed with what you call “lots of evidence, facts and cited proof.” But you do offer in my view a lot of low hanging fruit. If I get the chance I’ll address it.

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          • Ido

            I look forward to responding to your ignorance, lies and biased one-sided delusional nonsense, as usual.

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          • john

            lewis got his talking point from golda meir,
            netanyahu promised that israel ‘will forever live by the sword’,
            and halevy is a proud netanyahu supporter.

            so ok: you don’t agree with extremists like lewis, halevy, or netanyahu on anything but the ‘fact’ that palestinians are venal, murderous liars.
            then what looks like a normal response to you, looks elsewhere like an army killing unarmed journalists due to either premeditation or incompetence.

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          • john

            ido disagrees with extremists on doctrine only, agreeing with the central tenet of their extremism: that palestinians, their neighbors, are the enemy.

            “Many people – many nations – can find themselves holding, more or less wittingly, that ‘every stranger is an enemy’. For the most part this conviction lies deep down like some latent infection; it betrays itself only in random, disconnected acts, and does not lie at the base of a system of reason. But when this does come about, when the unspoken dogma becomes the major premise in a syllogism, then, at the end of the chain, there is the Lager. Here is the product of a conception of the world carried rigorously to its logical conclusion; so long as the conception subsists, the conclusion remains to threaten us.”

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          • Ido

            No I don’t. Ben’s lying about me is rubbing on you ? many Palestinians don’t follow Hamas/Fatah’s doctrine, had the pleasure of talking to them. I was specifically talking about the Palestinian leadership.

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          • john

            no, you were saying ‘Palestinians have been using “journalist” as cover for terrorism’ and various other rightwing talking points. if you disagree with the extremists, you’re doing a bad job of expressing it. instead of playing games with words about ‘the leadership’, try holding up what palestinian resistance you think is good and useful, e.g. issa amro. as it is, ido, most of your comments are about ‘palestinians believe this,’ and ‘palestinians do that’.
            honestly i’m not paying attention to what rhetorical questions you and ben ask each other. but still you’ve provided no evidence that the journalists israel murdered were in any way connected to hamas.

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        • Itshak Gordin Halevy

          I trust a minister of the State of Israel more than the assertions of journalists affiliated to the Hamas terrorist movement.

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          • john

            no affiliation whatsoever

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    2. Lewis from Afula

      I agree with Itshak.
      All the Hamas fascists must meet their 72 virgins in Paradise.
      The IDF should help them achieve their objective.
      “Allah Akhbar” anyone ?

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      • Ben

        Israel Is the Terrorist
        Ilana Hammerman Apr 05, 2018

        “About a week ago, on the highway between Hermesh and Mevo Dotan, two soldiers were killed and two were injured by a car that was driven by a resident of Barta’a. There are not many Israelis who know where these settlements are located and in what kind of reality they exist. But the vast majority probably have no doubt who was the terrorist here, and who, the innocent victim…. The problem is that terror has long since become the reality, and the entity that has allowed and is allowing this to happen is the State of Israel. Look at the map and find Barta’a, and maybe you’d even be interested in going there and seeing and hearing how its residents live and what their surroundings are like. I happened to do so a few days before the car-ramming incident, and it was completely clear to me – and not for the first time – that this reality is a product of the ongoing policy of terror pursued by generations of Israeli governments, and that it is this policy that gives rise to the acts of resistance against it. What’s amazing is only that there aren’t more such acts, because it’s really and truly an intolerable situation….”
        https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-israel-is-the-terrorist-1.5976966

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        • Itshak Gordin Halevy

          You constantly quote Haaretz. But in Israel Haaretz does not count.

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          • Ben

            Halevy you make me laugh. World record holder in missing the point.

            You see, this is about examining the truth, matters of justice and human rights; not about what “counts” as effective propaganda or fake news.

            It’s astounding your unabashed cynicism about this. Really you are quite shameless.

            Many a truth-telling newspaper did not “count” in totalitarian and quasi-totalitarian regimes of the past, and present. To the degree that Ha’aretz and +972 do not “count,” as you say, to Hebrew speakers, then to that degree that just shows why their English language editions are most needful and do “count.”

            In fact when I read the posturings of commenters like you and Ido Geller, troll par excellence troll assez typique, the main impression is of people who know nothing and do not want to know. Or pretend they don’t. Your reply here does not impress.

            You should consign yourself, Halevy to reading Ha’aretz daily and comparing and contrasting it to whatever it is you contentedly imbibe from the right wing echo chamber. A grade school exercise.

            So, as your first assignment (consider the subscription fee to Ha’aretz your tuition payment):

            LESSON 1:

            ‘I Was Just Following Orders’: What Will You Tell Your Children?
            ‘How did you destroy villages?’ one daughter will ask. ‘How did you agree to imprison two million people?’ another will whisper. The answers will only make their weeping louder
            https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-i-was-just-following-orders-what-will-you-tell-your-children-1.5979274

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          • Ben

            LESSON 4:

            How the Shin Bet Got Unlimited Power to Decide Which Palestinians Are Allowed Into Israel
            Israel’s rules for issuing work permits to Palestinians are a mystery, but sociologist Yael Berda asserts it’s not about security at all, but about controlling the local population
            By Shany Littman Apr 12, 2018
            https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-how-the-shin-bet-got-unlimited-power-to-bar-palestinians-from-israel-1.5994535

            You must study this one in depth, Halevy, top to bottom. Spend a lot of time on this subversive lesson which if you are honest with yourself will rob you of quite a few of your illusions.

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          • Ido

            I read Ha’aretz, but not daily because I don’t pay for their Premium content. I do enjoy reading their articles. My favorite is Gideon Levy. There is a reason why Islamic Jihadist terrorists like Hamas, who base their agenda on the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews, adore him so much.
            I regard his articles as comedic works of art. Like so many other great works of fiction, it’s written by a mentally ill person.

            As I said, I can’t read the, uh, “Premium” content behind a paywall, I don’t know why you keep posting them, but it’s easy to guess what the editorials are about from what you wrote and the title paragraph.

            Lesson 1: Did it mention the genocidal war when the Arab armies tried to destroy Israel and slaughter the Jews ? how even the Palestinians themselves, including their President, admit many left their villages due to calls to do so by the invading Arab armies ?
            Does it mention the fact that the Palestinians are the only people on earth kept as perpetual refugees for so long for political and strategic reasons ? how they are treated by their Arab brothers in whatever country they are in ? how almost all “Palestinian refugees” today are not actually refugees by definition ?
            Lesson 2: I assume you are referring to this:
            https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/idf-b-tselem-created-incident-for-video-posted-on-haaretz-1.5470753
            I am against the existence of the settlement of Yitzhar, it should be dismantled. However the officer in the video acted as expected in that scenario. I’m sure a US or British soldier would have acted the same.
            Lesson 3: again can’t read the article but I assume it was because Israel doesn’t want to create a precedence where Palestinians who were injured in the violent riots can enter Israel. Maybe Hamas should invest the millions the Palestinians receive in medical care and not in ‘death to the Jews’ and terror tunnel.
            Haven’t seen an article here about the giant tunnel Israel exposed 2 days ago, judging by its size it was meant for a large group of people to cross the border into Israel. Hmmm.
            Lesson 4: Can’t read but from the opening and writer this is an opinion piece by someone who has zero knowledge of the security risks involved. Yes, it’s bizarre that the people in charge of security can enact security measures.
            I’ve been to the checkpoints in the West Bank when I was in the army, it’s terrible. I wish there was no need for them. If only the Palestinians were lead by people who didn’t sees Israel’s destruction and the murder of Jews as a desired goal.

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          • Ben

            LESSON 5:

            From Blow Jobs to Cherry Tomatoes: Watch Exclusive New Episodes as Israel’s Answer to Borat Returns,
            ‘Avi Does the Holy Land’ is back for a second season of mockumentaries, tackling Israel’s PR problems. Aviva Zimmerman reveals all about her leftist-baiting alter ego
            https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSite/

            I’m not sure you’re up for this one, Halevy. It’s both too funny and too sophisticated. You may not get the joke. Actually I know you won’t get the joke. And totalitarians hate humor.

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