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WATCH: How Palestinian land becomes an Israeli national park

Issawiya, a crowded Palestinian village situated on the slopes of Jerusalem’s Mount Scopus, is home to 23,000 people. The municipality is planning to build a national park atop land belonging to the village, rather than building schools and infrastructure that would benefit its residents. The Palestinian residents of the village aren’t taking the decision lying down.

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    1. Ben

      This is apartheid, pure and simple. One race lording it over another. The authorities would never ever treat Jews this way. But they feel free to treat Arabs this way.

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      • Gustav

        Neither Arabs nor Jews are “a race”!

        Both Jews and Arabs are ethnic groups.

        … and the way things stand, either the Jews lord it over the Arabs or the Arabs would lord it over the Jews. Soooo we prefer the former.

        Moreover, in peace time, there is no reason why lording necessarily means that it needs to be nasty. During war times of course there is no avoiding the nasty…

        Finally, I am sorry but we insist that there has to be one place on earth where Jews are the majority (in other words, we are the lords). I know that is painful for some, but that’s the way it has to be.

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        • Erik

          Thats the most arrogant line I’ve read in a long time : “Finally, I am sorry but we insist that there has to be one place on earth where Jews are the majority (in other words, we are the lords). I know that is painful for some, but that’s the way it has to be.” And why is it so ? Is Jews a race ? I thougth it was a religion.

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          • Gustav

            No, Erik. Agaiiiiin…. Jews are an ethnic group. If it would be just a religion, then secular Jews would not be calling ourselves Jews. But we do.

            Tell me Erik, would you say to a Jewish person who is an atheist that he belongs to a religion?

            Ya would???!!! Then please explain to us how that would work????

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          • Gustav

            Oh and please enlighten us Erik why do you consider what I said to be arrogant beyond anything that you heard before?

            Maybe you know a sacred book which says that we Jews are destined to be an oppressed minority for eternity?

            Go on, I am itching to hear you tell me that we were never really a persecuted oppressed minority anywhere any time. Maybe you will tell us that it was just in the past? Or maybe, like some have accused me, you will just call me a paranoid with persecution complex?

            That wouldn’t be arrogant, would it?

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        • Ben

          Gustav finally comes clean. Lords of the land. Majority lords it over the minority. Jewish Supremacy. A credo declared. Refreshing honesty for a change instead of whining self-righteousness and victimhood. I like this change that has come over Gustav. No more torturous justifications that never quite add up. It’s a world open and clean. Gustav comes out of the closet and fully embraces Pedro X, Jello, Whiplash and Tomer. No more pretending. The dialogue between left and right is undergoing a cleansing, a clarification.

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          • Gustav

            Idiot Ben.

            Read my posts again, compare it to your attempt to paraphrase me, then try and tell me that they are the same.

            If you do, I’ll show you a liar.

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          • Gustav

            If what I said in my above posts is tantamount to supremacism then every other oppressed people who rebelled and reacted to tyranny and persecution by seeking and establishing their freedom, are supremacists.

            Hey, Benny, we are all supremacists now.

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          • Gustav

            “Whining self righteousness and victimhood”

            self-righteousness
            ˌsɛlfˈrʌɪtʃəsnəs/
            noun
            the quality or state of being self-righteous.
            “a strong sense of self-righteousness”
            synonyms: sanctimoniousness, sanctimony, self-satisfaction, smugness, superiority, priggishness, complacency, piety, unctuousness, hypocrisy;

            VICTIMHOOD:

            A Vic­tim way of think­ing sets us up to feel at the mercy of the world at large — Vic­tim­hood sets us adrift in a world of ran­dom acts of insan­ity, any one of which can anni­hi­late us at any moment.

            Thank you Benny, that’s what you reduced our history.

            Let me ask you a couple of questions though…

            1. Do we act like we are at the mercy of people like you?

            2. Look at the above definitions and ask yourself, could they be applicable to your darling Palestinian Arabs?

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          • Ben

            You said it plain as day. You look forward to a peaceful time of “non-nasty” lording it over them. “in peace time there is no reason why lording necessarily means that it needs to be nasty.” Those lucky Arabs. Bradley Burston last week said that he used to be one of those people who took issue with the label of apartheid as applied to Israel but not any more. He said he couldn’t pretend anymore after recent events. For example, after terrorists firebombed a West Bank Palestinian home, coldly burning a family alive only to have the government rule the family ineligible for the financial support and compensation automatically granted Israeli victims of terrorism, settlers included. And after Ayelet Shaked, explicitly declared stone-throwing to be terrorism and drove a bill giving stone-throwers 20 years in prison. Burston said the law did not specify that it targeted only Palestinian stone-throwers but that it didn’t have to. “Just one week later, pro-settlement Jews hurled rocks, furniture, and bottles of urine at Israeli soldiers and police at a West Bank settlement, and in response, Benjamin Netanyahu immediately rewarded the Jewish stone-throwers with a pledge to build hundreds of new settlement homes.” So yes, a world open and clean. No more playing pretendies.

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          • Gustav

            According to Jew haters like Benny…

            1. Jews who complain about persecution wallow in victimhood.

            2. If Jews do something about it by building our own independent Jewish nation state in which we are a majority, we are supremacists.

            3. If we justify our actions, then we are self righteous.

            Thank you Benny. People like you are a living testimony that justifies the existence of the Jewish nation state.

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          • Ben

            This reply is a complete nonsequitir from top to bottom. That’s all you got?

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          • Gustav

            “non sequitur
            nɒn ˈsɛkwɪtə/
            noun
            a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
            “his weird mixed metaphors and non sequiturs”

            Really, Benny? Everything I said here is a logical response to all the nonsense that you dished out on this thread.

            It seems that your last post is all YOU got left. Thanks, Benny, come again Benny…

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          • Gustav

            Typical Benny response. What was it he said about victimhood and self righteousness? Obviously according to him, that only applies to Jews not Palestinian Arabs.

            Hey Benny, for every bad act that you trot out against us, I can trot out dozens of bad acts against us by your darling Palestinian Arabs. Here is a bit of context for you…

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_political_violence

            “The years between the Intifadas were marked by intense diplomatic activity between Israel and the Palestinians as well as the creation of the Palestinian National Authority. In this period, suicide bombings of Israeli buses as a regular tactic, particularly by Hamas and Islamic Jihad, attacks during this period included, the Beit Lid massacre, a double suicide bombing at a crowded junction that killed 21 people and the Dizengoff Centre massacre, a suicide bombing outside a Tel Aviv shopping mall that killed 13 people”.

            As for what we have done, what was it that I said in my first post on this thread?

            “During war times of course there is no avoiding the nasty…”

            And who initiated this war? Who has been pursuing this war? Who refuses to sign a peace deal with us? Repeat after me Benny….

            T-H-E P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-I-A-N A-R-A-B-S.

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          • Ben

            Still not a single substantive response. What do you think of what Bradley Burston said? (Bradley Burston last week said that he used to be one of those people who took issue with the label of apartheid as applied to Israel but not any more….)

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          • Gustav

            LOL Benny, the pot calling the kettle black. You make it an artform not to respond to anything that shows you up the lying propagandist that you are. Just ask Wedding Singer, he was most frustrated by your avoidance tactics about his well reasoned rebuttal of your position that BDS is “Not antiSemitic”. But I digress…

            About Bradly Burston, obviously another one of your infalliable Gurus for whom you have religious reverence…

            …what can I say? If he claims that a nation at war with another people for 100 years is guilty of apartheid because of how we treat them as part of our response to their war on us, then your Bradley is an idiot. What exactly do you want from us, to kiss their feet? Read again what I said in my first post and the previous post on this thread. That wasn’t a response to your liking? Ok then, please respond to the accusations that I made against you and your Palestinian Arabs. After that, I may deal with your and Burston’s nonsense ingreater depth. Ok Benny?

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