Appreciate this article? +972 depends on your support.

Click here to help us keep going

Analysis News
Visit our Hebrew site, "Local Call" , in partnership with Just Vision.

The tyranny of the Jewish majority

The Jewish tribe has managed to stabilize its rule over the land, all while turning anyone who opposes it into a subversive or an anti-Semite. This precisely how a dictatorship functions. 

By Umar al-Ghubari

Palestinian citizens take part in a general strike in solidarity with Palestinians in Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza, in the northern town of Sakhnin, on October 13, 2015. (photo: Omar Sameer)

Palestinian citizens take part in a general strike in solidarity with Palestinians in Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza, in the northern town of Sakhnin, on October 13, 2015. (photo: Omar Sameer)

Israeli Apartheid Week is upon us, and this year the government is doing everything it can to fight organizers of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement across the world, while the Knesset is getting ready to vote on the so-called “suspension law,” which has the wholehearted support of the government itself. All this is taking place two weeks after the Knesset Ethics Committee decided to suspend three Arab members of Knesset of the Balad faction, and only months after the government decided to outlaw the Islamic Movement.

Two weeks ago, Haaret’z Zvi Barel published an article titled, “Israel Is Building a Judocracy by Silencing Arab Mourning.” The meaning of “Judocracy,” inspired by the term “ethnocracy” — coined by Professor Oren Iftachel — is as follows: under the current regime, Jews enjoy the fruits of democracy while discriminating against Palestinian citizens of Israel.

With a limited outlook at the regime and the relations between the majority and the minority inside the state (a state whose borders are unclear), the term “ethnocracy” may certainly reflect the reality in which we live. A type of democracy with preferential treatment for the ruling ethnic group. However, the relationship between Jews and Palestinians cannot be summed up with what is happening inside the country, where a Jewish majority and a Palestinian minority was created through a campaign of violence and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians on the one hand, and massive Jewish immigration on the other.

A look at the entirety of the relationship between Palestinians and Jews reveals that all Palestinians, regardless of where they live today, are under the control of the Jewish-Israel regime, and are thus influenced by its decisions. This worldview also changes the way we understand demography. The numbers teach us that there is a Jewish minority that rules over a Palestinian majority against our will. The correct definition of this situation, then, is dictatorship.

Young Israelis march during the annual Jerusalem Day March held by Israelis to celebrate 48 years since Israel conquered East Jerusalem, outside Jerusalem's Old City, May 17, 2015. (photo: Tess Scheflan)

Young Israelis march during the annual Jerusalem Day March held by Israelis to celebrate 48 years since Israel conquered East Jerusalem, outside Jerusalem’s Old City, May 17, 2015. (photo: Tess Scheflan)

If the situation inside Israel can be defined as “ethnocracy,” then the larger picture is of an ethnic dictatorship. And instead of Judocracy, we can it a Jewish dictatorship.

The Jewish tribe has succeeded, after taking control by force, to stabilize its regime and establish a state with laws that benefit its own. It created a situation that will leave its rule unchallenged, while building foundations that prevent other groups from gaining control. The rules of the tribe forbid citizens and subjects from demanding a change in the regime or the way the state defines itself. This kind of thing is seen as illegal subversion or even anti-Semitism. This is how a dictatorship functions.

Dictatorships centralize all power, and in Israel, Jews are the ones with the ultimate power. Or more precisely: ultimate power rests in Jewish hands. The Jewish dictatorship, like all dictatorships, demands exclusive rights to the regime, leaving everyone else its subjects. The regime will be Jewish alone. God forbid we reach a situation in which we live in a Jewish-Arab state, for instance, or a state of all citizens. Even the left-wing faction of the Jewish-Zionist tribe fears equality or working with Arabs. We must separate, they say. The sons of the tribe will maintain their privileges, while all the others will need to struggle for their rights. The rulers may change, but they will always be either part of the tribe or pre-approved by it.

Youth from Aida Refugee Camp rest during a lull in clashes with Israeli forces near the separation wall in the West Bank city of Bethlehem, November 16, 2013. The wall, which divides Bethlehem's land is a frequent entry point for incursions by Israeli forces into Aida Refugee Camp, and often a site of clashes with camp youth. (Photo by Ryan Rodrick Beiler/Activestills.org)

Youth from Aida Refugee Camp rest during a lull in clashes with Israeli forces near the separation wall in the West Bank city of Bethlehem, November 16, 2013. The wall, which divides Bethlehem’s land is a frequent entry point for incursions by Israeli forces into Aida Refugee Camp, and often a site of clashes with camp youth. (Photo by Ryan Rodrick Beiler/Activestills.org)

The Palestinians, who have been torn apart, separated, and granted different statuses by the state, are all hostages living under some form of Israeli rule. Their fate depends on the decisions of the state of the Jews. Some of them became citizens and live under oppression inside the borders of the state, others live under military rule or in one of the biggest ghettos in history, while many others live in the diaspora and are prevented from returning to their homeland, from which their parents and grandparents were expelled.

The Jews built a democracy for themselves. For Palestinians, they built a cruel and clever dictatorship. Since the beginning of the Nakba, which brought about a catastrophe for the Palestinian people, the dictatorship has not had much of a problem “democratically” voting on decisions that solidify Jewish supremacy. In a dictatorship, the glass ceiling is set by the dictator himself.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed this very sentiment during a recent Knesset speech, in which he said that Arabs “deserve civil, but not national rights.” In other words, we are the masters — you are second-class citizens. Make peace with that.

Umar al Ghubari is group facilitator, a political educator, and he documents and photographs the Palestinian Nakba. This article was first published published in Hebrew on Local Call — read it here.

Newsletter banner

For additional original analysis and breaking news, visit +972 Magazine's Facebook page or follow us on Twitter. Our newsletter features a comprehensive round-up of the week's events. Sign up here.

Before you go...

A lot of work goes into creating articles like the one you just read. And while we don’t do this for the money, even our model of non-profit, independent journalism has bills to pay.

+972 Magazine is owned by our bloggers and journalists, who are driven by passion and dedication to the causes we cover. But we still need to pay for editing, photography, translation, web design and servers, legal services, and more.

As an independent journalism outlet we aren’t beholden to any outside interests. In order to safeguard that independence voice, we are proud to count you, our readers, as our most important supporters. If each of our readers becomes a supporter of our work, +972 Magazine will remain a strong, independent, and sustainable force helping drive the discourse on Israel/Palestine in the right direction.

Support independent journalism in Israel/Palestine Donate to +972 Magazine today
View article: AAA
Share article
Print article
  • LEAVE A COMMENT

    * Required

    COMMENTS

    1. Bruce Gould

      One of the ridiculous themes appearing in these discussions is the idea that people who are critical of Israeli society are somehow anti-Jewish, or they secretly hate themselves…well….

      “Present day Israel has discarded the rational, the universal and the visionary. These values have been subordinated to a cruel and oppressive occupation, an emphatic materialism, severe inequalities rivaling the worst in the western world and distorted by a fanatic, obscurantist and fundamentalist religion which encourages the worst behaviors rather than the best…”

      David Gordis has served as vice-president of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America and of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles (now American Jewish University). He also served as Executive Vice President of the American Jewish Committee and was the founding director of the Foundation for Masorti Judaism in Israel. He founded and directed the Wilstein Institute for Jewish Policy Studies which became the National Center for Jewish Policy Studies.

      http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/major-american-jewish-leader-changes-his-mind-about-israel

      Reply to Comment
      • Samson

        More idiotic jihadi propaganda. Nothing other than copy-pasted scurrilous screed. Jews cannot fairly/unfairly criticize Israel without such criticisms being used by anti-Semites to smear, demonize and delegitimize the Jewish State and demand that it cease to exist. Foolish that – Achmed.

        Pls. discard earlier comment. I hit the wrong button there.

        Reply to Comment
    2. Ginger Eis

      Dear Mr. Umar al-Ghubari,

      Jews of Europe are being discriminated against, harassed, intimidated and killed by Muslims/Muslim Arabs. Today wearing a kippah publicly in Europe means a sentence for certain death at the hands of Muslims. Jews are therefore fleeing Europe en mass and coming back home to Israel. Tens of thousands have emigrated in the pasts years. This year alone, another 10.000 Jews are expected from France alone. A few months ago, an ultimatum was delivered to Yemeni Jews: pack your bags and leave Yemen or face slaughter! Stricken by fear, they fled. Tens of thousands of Jews from Ethiopia are still flocking back home to Israel. These Jewish refuges all need shelter and homes to start rebuilding their battered and shattered lives at the hands of Muslim. These Jews need a Jewish Homeland of their own in which the can live freely and pursue happiness. Israel is that Jewish Homeland. Israel is the ONLY Jewish Homeland.

      Israel is also a Democracy based on the Rule of Law. That means nothing more that Majority Rule and Protection of Minority Rights and basic human rights and fundamental freedoms. This is the same in ALL European countries. The democracy in Israel and the democracy in the top European countries (Germany, The Netherlands, France, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, etc.) are NOT different from each other. The fact that Jews are a majority in Israel and as such determine the outcome of democratic elections does not make Israel an “ethnocracy” or “Judeocracy” – whatever that means. In Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden, for example, ethnic Germans, resp. ethnic Dutch, resp. ethnic Swedes ARE the majority and determine the outcome of democratic elections in those respective countries. What you then call Israeli “ethnocracy” is therefore not different from German, Swedish, Danish, etc. “Ethnocracy”. What you call “Judocracy” is not different from “Germonocracy”, “Swedocracy”, “Frenchocracy, “Arabocracy”, “Islamocracy”, etc. Setting one set of standards for the State of Israel and different set of standards for other democratic countries is one of the standards for measuring anti-Semitism. It is my opinion that using such terms as “ethnocray” and “Judeocracy” to qualify Israeli democracy is at best an unfair mockery and at worst anti-Semitic.

      In Israel, all Israelis citizens are guaranteed equal Constitutional rights – regardless of their ethnic or racial origin, their gender, skin color, religion and belief. The Muslim Arab citizens of Israel enjoy more rights and personal freedoms in Israel than their Muslim Arab brothers in Muslim Arab countries. Israel Christians, studies have shown, are doing better economically and in terms of education than their Jewish counterparts.

      Your frustration and anger, Mr. Umar al-Ghubari, results NOT from Israeli imperfections (which can improve; no country is perfect), but from the inability of your more than 300.000.000. Muslim Arabs and more than 1.2. billion Muslims worldwide to realize your several decades old dream of eliminating the JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL and replacing her with the 23rd Muslim Arab State. As long as that grand Muslim Arab dream remain unfulfilled, nothing Israel does for you and your people will be enough. The Jewish State can never get it right and the only she can get it right is to cease to exist and disappear. But, THAT – ain’t gonna happen, Mr. Umar al-Ghubari. Ever.

      End Of Story.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pjKopHoHg

      Am Yisrael Chai!

      Reply to Comment
      • Lion Of Judah

        Refuting the lie of the Israeli “apartheid”

        “According to its definition, apartheid is a policy/system of segregation or discrimination on the grounds of race. Between the years 1948-1994, South Africa enforced through legislation an apartheid regime, which harshly discriminated the non-white racial groups. This discrimination encompassed every aspect of life, such as the right to vote, job opportunities and education. It also encroached on aspects of simple, everyday life: which road you could walk on, which park bench you could sit on, at which beach you could go swimming; even intermarriage between whites and non-whites was strictly forbidden. What is important to emphasize is that these people, despite being grossly discriminated against, were in fact, equally defined as citizens by the South African laws.
        Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East, and 20% of its population are Arabs. Totally contradicting the above accusations, any form of discrimination against the non-Jewish minorities is strictly forbidden by law in Israel. Thus, the Arab-Druze population is fully represented in the Knesset by sixteen Arab/Druze-Israeli members. Likewise, the judiciary is typified by equality between Jews and Arabs. In this way, the Supreme Court judge, Salim Joubran (incidentally an Arab), found the former Israeli president, Moshe Katsav (Jewish), guilty and sentenced him to serve seven years in prison. Another example of this policy of equality, is provided by the IDF Colonel Ghassan Alian, a Druze-Israeli, the commander of the Golani brigade, which is one of the leading infantry brigades in the Israeli Defense Forces”.

        Read the rest here: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/refuting-the-lie-of-the-israeli-apartheid/

        Reply to Comment
        • Bruce Gould

          This may come as a surprise, but what’s on paper doesn’t alwasy refelct what’s really happening:

          South African Jewish anti-apartheid stalwart Denis Goldberg believes the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the use of separate laws for different groups of people makes Israel an apartheid state.

          “There is no doubt in my mind that Israel is an apartheid state,” Goldberg, who fought alongside late South African President Nelson Mandela and other activists against apartheid, told a gathering in Johannesburg.

          “Having lived through apartheid in South Africa, I cannot allow in my name the same kind of oppression to go on,” Goldberg said at an event discussing lessons for the Palestine-Israel conflict from those who struggled against apartheid.

          https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/africa/20070-veteran-south-african-activist-denis-goldberg-israel-an-apartheid-state

          Reply to Comment
          • Lion Of Judah

            My post contains only FACTS of what is going on in Israel right NOW. It gives FACTUAL examples after examples of what is happening and has been happening in Israel right now, not “what is on paper”. It can be factchecked online, in books, calling people in Israel right now and asking them. You don’t deny any of those FACTS. Therefore your statement that “what’s on paper doesn’t alwasy refelct what’s really happening” is not relevant and quite silly.

            It seems you always have ready-made anti-Israel propaganda starched up somewhere ready to be copied and pasted as response without understanding what your source is saying. First off, Denis Goldberg does NOT even live in Israel and you lie by stating that he does. Denis Goldberg also did NOT give specific examples of “regulations and policies that distinguish between groups of people on the basis of race or religion” in Israel. He is full of ‘theoretical claims’ that lack FACTUAL basis. Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt , Turkey, Greece, the United States, Austria, etc. have their own laws that treat people who are not their citizens different. That does not make them “apartheid”. The “State of Palestine” is a partially recognized State that declared independence on 15 November 1988. Palestine, which has more than 100 Embassies and Consulates around the world, has its own laws that treat non-Palestinian citizens differently, especially Israeli Jews. That is not apartheid. Israel applies to the Arabs in Area C of Judea and Samaria the same law they had before they came under Israeli control. That is not “apartheid”, because that is what international law say Israel must do until the conflict is resolved. The only way to apply Israeli law to them there would be by annexing them to Israel proper, but the people living there and the Palestinian government do NOT want that either. Simply put: you don’t have a claim against Israel. Here is the testimony of someone who actually was at the receiving end of Apartheid and spent time in Israel:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3_R5LykbY

            I hope you can do better than copy and paste like a robot what you either have not read or have read, but do not quite understand.

            Reply to Comment
        • betz55

          @lion of judah……Bbbbbbzzzzzzzz wrong ! If you actually want peace, you don’t build illegal settlement colonies in the Palestinian capital or on Palestinian land.

          In addition, Israel is simultaneously running three systems of government. The first is full democracy toward its Jewish citizens — ethnocracy.

          The second is racial discrimination toward the Palestinian minority — creeping Jim Crowism.

          And the third is occupation of the Palestinian territories with one set of laws for Palestinians and another for Jewish settlers — apartheid.

          Israel, and you, are forgeting that its continued denial of freedom to the Palestinians and its continued racist, apartheid regime are the very essence of the issue. For Palestinians the list is endless and growing, particularly with each growing settlement, every home demolition, every land confiscation, every eviction and each day that passes that a brutal siege is imposed on the Gaza Strip or that Palestinian refugees are not allowed to return to their homes simply because they are not Jewish.

          Israel sees all Palestinians as demographic enemies to be robbed of their land, stripped of their rights, tortured, beaten, tear-gassed, shot down in the streets. That is not “democracy”.

          Israel has painted themselves into a corner, surrounded by states that loathe them. Their hubris, arrogance and sense of entitlement based on the ridiculous credo of “God’s chosen people”, has left them discredited, unmasked, de-legitimized, scorned, reduced to a diplomatic dwarf, maniacally messianic fanatics, laughed at and alienated from the rest of the international community.

          You align yourself with garbage and you end up being garbage.

          You gotta work with what you have. Logically and morally, if one is an Israel supporter, like you, that‘s not much.

          Reply to Comment
      • Ben

        “Germonocracy….” I laughed. Absurdly, patently, false. You mean to tell us, Eis, that Germans can’t marry persons of non-German ancestry inside Germany? Boy that oughta go over swell. Wait’ll that gets out! And Germany is illegally occupying Denmark and subjugating its population and has divided it into Areas A, B, and C and is engaging in creeping annexation of Area C after deliberately turning accords meant to be temporary into a permanent occupation managing tool? And indefinitely detains Danes without trial? And detains and tortures Danish teenagers (see the article by Gaurnieri)? And 25% of the German population is Danish and suffers perpetual severe discrimination in education, housing, land? And the German Education Minister bans books from the schools that deal with German-non-German romance and the Minister talks darkly (in public!) about “miscegenation”? And Angela Merkel shouts from the Bundestag podium that Danes deserve civil but not national rights? And, to borrow from Bruce, South African Jewish anti-apartheid stalwart Denis Goldberg believes the German occupation of Denmark and the use of separate laws for different groups of people makes Germany an apartheid state? I had no idea, Eis. Germany just accepted thousands upon thousands of refugees whereas Israel treats refugees like this:
        http://972mag.com/why-is-the-state-trying-to-jail-married-asylum-seekers/117315/

        Reply to Comment
      • Ben

        “In Israel, all Israelis citizens are guaranteed equal Constitutional rights – regardless of their ethnic or racial origin, their gender, skin color, religion and belief.”

        You mean like this, Eis? ==>

        http://972mag.com/the-risk-of-building-while-bedouin/117489/

        According to a recent court ruling, only Bedouin need to be concerned about illegal construction. Israeli Jews, it turns out, are immune to home demolitions.

        “…there is no equality under the law in Israel. More than that, there are two separate legal systems operating here.”

        Reply to Comment
      • Ben

        I’d like to point to the worthy comments of Richard Flantz in the Facebook section:

        “This is an important article in my view … but also because it clearly defines that this ethnic group is not “the Jews’, but the “Jewish-Israeli” or “Israeli Jewish” “tribe” (I think it’d be more correct to call it a nation) that has not only made itself at home in Palestine, but has also established its own dictatorial sovereignty over the entire country.
        & this distinction is doubly important, both because it means that opposition to the Israeli Jewish dictatorship cannot be in any way deemed ‘antiSemitism”, and because by establishing & maintaining this regime (by military force, by might not by right) the Israeli Jewish nation, a distinct entity from all other Jews in the world, who speak a language most Jews in the world don’t speak, has also alienated itself from humane values precious to Jews & to non-Jews throughout the world.”

        Reply to Comment
      • betz55

        “Israel is also a Democracy based on the Rule of Law. That means nothing more that Majority Rule and Protection of Minority Rights and basic human rights and fundamental freedoms.” — But just not for Palestinians right ?

        “In Israel, all Israelis citizens are guaranteed equal Constitutional rights – regardless of their ethnic or racial origin, their gender, skin color, religion and belief.” — But just for Palestinians right ?

        Get some education here:
        Israel is simultaneously running three systems of government.

        The first is full democracy toward its Jewish citizens — ethnocracy.

        The second is racial discrimination toward the Palestinian minority — creeping Jim Crowism.

        And the third is occupation of the Palestinian territories with one set of laws
        for Palestinians and another for Jewish settlers — apartheid.

        And one more thing, for how long did you think Israel will be allowed to arrest and piss on Palestinian children, steal and destroy Palestinian land, enforce a barbaric siege against Gaza, murder peaceful protesters, look the other way while settlers murder Palestinians with impunity and just get away with it?

        The Palestinians are not the problem, Israel, their failed policies, oppression of the legitimite heirs to Palestine, apartheid and ethnic cleansing, the ragtag IDF, and the systematic effort to wipe out a culture and people who were there before them is the problem. It is called the O-C-C-U-P-A-T-I-O-N.

        As long as that grand Israeli dream remains unfulfilled of the ridiculous “Judea and Samaria”, nothing Palestine does for you and your people will be enough. The Palestinian State can never get it right and the only she can get it right is to cease to exist and disappear. But, THAT – ain’t gonna happen, Ginger. EVER.

        End Of Story.

        Reply to Comment
    3. Samson

      More idiotic jihadi propaganda. Nothing other than copy-pasted scurrilous screed. Somehow Jews cannot fairly/unfairly criticize Israel without the anti-Semites rushing to use such criticism to smear, demonize and delegitimize the Jewish State and demand it cease to exist. Foolish that – Achmed.

      Reply to Comment
      • Bruce Gould

        So Jews can’t comment on Israel because their remarks will be used to ‘delegitimize’ Israel, and non-Jews can’t comment on Israel because to do so would be anti-Semitic, therefore no critique of Israel is possible by anyone.

        Reply to Comment
        • Samson

          Quit playing dumb Achmed. Every Jew (and in fact every non-Jew) has the right to criticize Israel and do criticize. That is not the point. The difference between you and those Jews offering critique, an overwhelming majority of whom btw are Zionists, is ‘motive’. Their motive: to strengthen the moral fibers of the Jewish State, is the opposite of your motive: to justify your ironclad dogma that the Jewish State is evil, smear, demonize, delegitimize and destroy the Jewish State. It is a subtle but huge and decisive difference. For you jihadis / anti-Semites “the good Israel” is “the dead Israel”. You don’t point to the imperfections of the Jewish State to make it better, but to tear it down. Do you understand it now, or, do you need more splaining?

          Reply to Comment
          • Bruce Gould

            “…to justify your ironclad dogma that the Jewish State is evil,…”

            No, my thesis is that Jews and the Jewish state are just exactly like everyone else and every other state. Given power over a minority whose resources it wants (land), it will abuse them; the Jewish State will behave just as other states do in a similar position. More cutting and pasting:

            http://972mag.com/the-risk-of-building-while-bedouin/117489/

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Yea and the Jewish state is also like everyone else when threatened with extinction. We react with whatever measures necssary to make it difficult for the would be perpetrators to realize their wet dreams of making us extinct.

            Translation. We step on their throats till such time as they clearly signal, in word and deed that they no longer aim to eliminate the nation state of the Jewish people just because they think that ALL this land belongs to Arabs and ONLY to Arabs.

            Yep, we react like everybody else would react if they would walk in our shoes. And maybe we are even a bit kinder than many others would be in our place…

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            I can’t help but see similarities between the rhetoric of this fear-mongering, fascistic demagogue Trump, Mussolini-lite, playing to America’s “Weimar-lite democratic dysfunction” as Roger Cohen put it–“if we don’t DO something we won’t have a country!” absurdly barks Trump–and your endless fear mongering recitations of being “threatened with extinction” if you don’t pull out of Ariel. You also, repeatedly, have used a brutal metaphor that reveals more than you realize. “Step on their throats.” This is what you do to a man who is already down and subjugated, not a man who actually threatens you. You step on the throat of a man to keep him cruelly subjugated. Yes you are a lot like Trump in the speech you use. Trump is a really bad guy. He would be a disaster. A man very dangerous to America’s national security. ISIS would gleefully celebrate the Muslim bashing Muslim baiting Trump winning the presidency. You, who think France should now be “occupying Muslim lands,” seem to me terribly susceptible to the rhetoric of a manipulative, narcissistic demagogue like Trump. Or Netanyahu.

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            Correction: …your endless fear mongering recitations of being “threatened with extinction” if you pull out of Ariel.

            Reply to Comment
          • betz55

            Gee, now you know how the Palestinians feel. If the situation was reversed you be fighting like hell, whining and screaming about it and playing the victim and holocaust card. The Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against you and your ilk.

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            I searched and could not find a single comment of Bruce’s, nor do I recall a single comment of his, that tears down Israel. Yes, Bruce has always struck me as the epitome of urbane intelligent thoughtful politeness and humane concern for Israel becoming better and living up to its words and all that good stuff. (If that’s too confusing, Samson, just think the polar opposite of you, and you’ll grasp it.) I like the way you deploy the word “imperfections.” That little imperfection of the 49-year brutal and brutalizing, corrupting occupation. Yes, just put a little dab of Hasbara (TM) Magic Wrinkle Covering Cream on it and no one will notice. You go girlfrien’.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Benny using lotsa words but as usual, he is in denial.

            Ask Hamas what is their intention towrds the Jewish state.

            “Article 6 Hamas is uniquely Palestinian,[24] and “strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned.”[17][21]

            Article 7 describes Hamas as “one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders” and links the movement to the followers of the religious and nationalist hero Izz ad-Din al-Qassam.[21][23]

            Article 11 Palestine is sacred (waqf) for all Muslims for all time, and it cannot be relinquished by anyone.[21]

            Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.[21]
            Article 14 The liberation of Palestine is the personal duty of every Palestinian.[21]”

            Heck, just look at even the PLO charter. It clearly says that their intention is to destroy Israel and exile most of the Israeli Jews. Yes they did promise to amend their charter at the early stages of the Oslo accord. They promised to do so in written letters. But as usual, they did not keep their promise. So the PLO charter too talks about the destruction of Israel. What do you make of it Benny? [please don’t answer. I don’t want to see more of your BS. You bore me to tears Benny-leh. Nothing personal. You can’t help being a moron. Although you might try not to be such a one eyed malicious liar].

            So you see, Benny? I don’t have to be a fascistic fear monger. I just look at what the two dominant factions of the Palestinian Arab leadership says…

            Now let’s talk about you. Are you a liar? Or are you just in denial? I think it’s the former. What do you say?

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            Gustav as usual skirts the question and pulls out a canned hasbara recitation about musty charters and dishonest accounts of Oslo. Nothing you have said, Gustav, counters in the least Bruce’s observation:

            “Given power over a minority whose resources it wants (land), it will abuse them”

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Benny as usual is in denial mode about what his own Arabs say is their plan for us.

            As for what Bruce said? He said this…

            BRUCE:”No, my thesis is that Jews and the Jewish state are just exactly like everyone else and every other state. Given power over a minority whose resources it wants (land), it will abuse them; the Jewish State will behave just as other states do in a similar position.”

            I then built on what he said…

            Yea and the Jewish state is also like everyone else when threatened with extinction. We react with whatever measures necssary to make it difficult for the would be perpetrators to realize their wet dreams of making us extinct.

            Translation. We step on their throats till such time as they clearly signal, in word and deed that they no longer aim to eliminate the nation state of the Jewish people just because they think that ALL this land belongs to Arabs and ONLY to Arabs.

            Yep, we react like everybody else would react if they would walk in our shoes. And maybe we are even a bit kinder than many others would be in our place…

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            This flatly contradicts everything your leaders, across the board, say.
            Accurate translation: “We step on their throats till such time as they clearly signal, in word and deed that they are ready to cough up such places as Ariel, Ma’aleh Adumim, East Jerusalem, and basically, Area C. What’s wrong with a Palestinian statelet? Who do they think they are? Jews?”

            “Step on their throats”

            As I said, you have no insight into the reality you convey with this brutal metaphor. This is what you do to a man who is already down and subjugated, not a man who actually threatens you. You step on the throat of a man to keep him cruelly subjugated. In four words you admit more than you ever wanted to.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            No Benny, we step on their throat till such time as they stop their mantra that ALL of Palestine is Arab land and we have no place here.

            When will we step off their throat? When they stop their wanton terrorism against our civilians and give up on their Jihad against us whom they consider infidels.

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            You’re a sick guy. You live inside a hermetically sealed belief system that allows you to treat your victims with terrible cruelty, in the service of taking their land. Let’s see. Who to believe about this? Gustav? Or Binyamin, Moshe, Naftali, Ayalet, Tzipi, Aryeh, Miri, Gildan, Zambish, Daniella, Malachi, Benzti, Isaac, Tzipi….? Decisions, decisions. Boy that’s a tough one…

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Yes Benny, I must be sick because I stand up to one eyed hypocritical bastards like you and patiently counter your endless propaganda rants. It must be galling for you. Believe me, I feel for you but I’ll keep on doing it. Howzat?

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            “We will step on their throats….” That’s the language of tyranny. It’s cliche’. A big problem here is that no one apologizes for anything. “No apologies” per Bennett, who also stated publicly “I’ve killed many Arabs in my life, and there’s no problem with that”. What is it with the continual need for this macho bullshit -seriously, it seems like a desperate attempt to make up for deficits elsewhere. Someone bumps into you without as much as excuse me or simply ‘sorry’ which is so common elsewhere. The way people treat each other here is deplorable, and that’s Jew v Jew. If Jews treat each other with disdain, suspicion and the attitude ‘screw you before you screw me’ it doesn’t take calculus to see how much worse it is for any ‘other’.

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            I misquoted Gustav, sorry about that. The whole quote is actually quite promising for the ‘stepping on throat’ category as Gustav, who speaks with great authority on behalf of the zionist state, claims ‘we step on their throat till such time as they stop their mantra that ALL of Palestine is Arab land and we have no place here’. I hope the Palestinian Authority is watching this space. According to Gustav, stop your ‘mantra’ as above and the boots come off the throat! I don’t know if that also applies to further confiscation of land, summary executions, home demolitions, tearing up of olive trees, arrests of children, torture, abuse, checkpoints, etc., etc., but I’m sure you can look forward to other conditions and accommodations that the zionist state requires to end its tyranny, but at least now you know what must be done to get end the ‘stepping on throat’. Watch this space!

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            I’m not an authority or speak for the PA, but I would imagine they’ll be more inclined to acquiesce if the zionists would stop their mantra that ALL of Palestine is Jewish land and they have no place here. Just a thought.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Get over it darling. It is a figure of speech. And it is response to mindless Arab terrorism against innocent Israeli civilians.

            You excusing the mindless murder, by an Arab thug, of an Israeli mother of six by claiming that she stole Arab lands is at least as offensive as what I said. Stop being such a sanctimoneous holier than thou hypocrite.

            Now, who am I talking to again? Is it Benny? Carmen? Or …?

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            Carmen
            Tuesday
            March 1, 2016

            Gustav: “… my answer is that if it is just the simplistic scenario that you paint, NO, I would not feel sympathy…

            … now let’s hear the point of your simplistic question. I can’t wait for your punch line and your false analogy…”

            False equivalence maybe? 🙂

            Thanks for answering my ‘simplistic question’. I don’t think simple things need to be embellished. Sometimes it’s simply right and wrong. I’m not holding you to your original answer to me either, which was “NO, I would not feel sympathy”. I just wanted the experience of being able to agree with a zionist on anything, even something you called a “simplistic question”. Putting one’s family in danger for selfish or ideological reasons when there is obviously danger or at least perceived danger is always wrong IMO. I’ve been thinking about Dafna Meir BTW.

            “In November, after the murders of Yaakov Litman and his son Netanel near Otniel, Meir shared her fears in a local news website, writing: “I have been thinking a great deal lately, thinking about why, what should be done or shouldn’t be or can’t be, how to behave, especially on the road, but not only. The fears, for my husband and children, my friends and family. The situation isn’t easy. I sometimes have a feeling of [being in a game of] Russian roulette. And I can’t sleep”.

            I think she subconsciously felt like a pawn. I blame her death on the zionist state, that’s who she played Russian roulette with. Morad Bader Abdullah Adais, 16, accused of murdering Ms. Meir, is also a pawn, of the PA leader Mahmoud Abbas. They both lost. Governments don’t care about people, especially the ones who elected them, it seems. I don’t care how many funerals Net’yahoo attends, how many revenge speeches he gives, it’s all showbiz. I don’t think he loses any sleep over dead israelis. They are his ace in the hole. Ditto for Abbas. They’ve both been huge disappointments to their people, IMO.

            This is what Gustav called “You excusing the mindless murder, by an Arab thug, of an Israeli mother of six by claiming that she stole Arab lands is at least as offensive as what I said. Stop being such a sanctimoneous holier than thou hypocrite.”

            FFS. Although I could’nt understand why you didn’t respond to the above where it was posted, it’s sickening, sneaky and completely dishonest how you misrepresent my words here. I’ve got to quit expecting anything better from you. And seriously, reading “darling” is more disgusting to me than being called a bitch or any snark from your puppets. Again with the Ben or is it Carmen? Who’s that for Gustav? Really, do you get paid extra every time you throw in that line? And you said you weren’t here for my entertainment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WlPI7bOEQFc

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            Yes darling.

            More convoluted verbose justification by Carmen for the murder of an Israeli mother of six by one of her brainwashed and incited Arab beasts. Yes, Carmen and her ilk are part of the problem. Ideologues like her empower Arab thugs to commit mindless and pointless murder of our civilians. That is why we have to step on their throats in order to try and slow them down a bit.

            I say pointless murder because such acts will never allow them to achieve their wet dream of destroying us. It makes us twice as strong and determined to prevail.

            Am Yisrael Chai.

            As for me calling you darling, I noticed it annoys you, darling. So what makes you think I don’t want to see one eyed, hateful propagandists like you annoyed, darling? If you’d have half a brain, you’d hide the fact that you are annoyed. There. Some free advice to you so you don’t claim that I lack the milk of human kindness. LOL.

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            I understand your type. No means yes and, well, that’s basically it. You are the tyranny of the Jewish majority. That’s not a compliment but think you’ll take it that way. That’s the way it is and the way you want it to be. You can carry on about Jewish deaths but you clearly don’t give a damn. If any of you actually gave a shit, you’d not stand for the current situation any longer and do whatever you could to make sure your leaders worked day and night to end the occupation, instead of continuing to pay off a corrupted Palestinian official to cheat his people. There will be a reckoning. Continue to call me whatever you think will bother me the most G, it demonstrate the twisted mentality of a criminal enterprise with each post. Saves me a lot of work. Am Yisrael Chai – with your boots on the neck of Palestine and your souls pledged to the devil.

            Reply to Comment
    4. Pál Prónay

      We should listen to the wise words of the Iranian politician,
      Iran’s nuclear chief: Israel isn’t a state, therefore its not a threat

      Reply to Comment
    5. Average American

      It’s sad that an argument had to be made to show criticism of Israel as a nation among nations is not anti-semetism, but Richard Frantz has done it. No one needs to be afraid of what Jews think about you or call you. Right? How could they affect you anyway? They couldn’t smear you in a Jewish-owned newspaper or cable station, right? They couldn’t have private access and influence to all of Congress through a Jewish PAC, right? They couldn’t stop lending to your country through Jewish-controlled central banks, right? Just how much power do you think they have? How well positioned do you think they are? How consistently do you think they work together as one?

      Reply to Comment
    6. Average American

      I think Gustav has single-handedly proven the point of this article. Boots on their throats. That’s priceless.

      Reply to Comment
      • Ben

        I couldn’t agree more.

        Reply to Comment
        • Gustav

          You don’t like boots on throats, Average? Ok then.

          You guys [America] are big enough and mean enough to pussy foot with terrorists but then again, with the exception of 9/11, you haven’t yet suffered enough from wanton terrorism.

          We will see how you people will react to a situation in which Arabs will wantonly murder Americans about twice each week and doing it for years.

          Hint: After 9/11 you invaded Afghanistan. We had the equivalent of several 9/11s perpetrated against us by Arabs. For instance, in the 1948 war which the Arabs started, we lost 1% of our population. Let’s see…
          That would be the equivalent of 3.5 million dead Americans?

          Tell me, Average, how would Americans react to such a statistic? Hint: in WW2 you nuked Hiroshima & Nagasaki for much less.

          Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            First and last, the US and israel are virtually indistinguishable, the most obvious difference is in amerikkka there’s ‘more shit to do’, more distractions to keep amerikkkan minds off what amerikkka is doing in amerikkkans’ name. Israel is either the 51st state of amerikkka or amerikkka is israel’s largest settlement bloc. It’s really hard to tell anymore. It’s like if Netnyahoo has an itch, the US Senate has pruritus.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            LOL. The thick plottens (a deliberate corruption on my part of this well known saying).

            Carmen seems to be as critical of America as she is of us…

            Ok deary, time to educate you a bit more…

            There is no perfect country on this planet, get it? There are only imperfect countries and more imperfect countries, get that too?

            …on the scale of imperfection, your adored Arab people who form Arab countries, or would be Arab countries like Palestine, are higher on the scale of imperfection than America or Israel…in other words… THEY ARE MUCH MORE IMPERFECT.

            … last but not least. Keep on stomping your little feet and keep on telling us that you’ll settle for nothing less than utopia but us grown ups, much as we too would like to have utopia, know full well that utopia is unachoevable.

            Nuff lecturing, LOL.

            Reply to Comment
          • Carmen

            “Carmen seems to be as critical of America as she is of us…” I was clear about that but, right. This is what you do. When someone is clear about a point, any point it seems, you respond “seems like”. When someone isn’t sure, says “I think” or “maybe”, you respond by saying “(insert name) said this or that and he or she MEANS IT”. One of my problems is that I believe most people can be reasoned with some way or the other. And just to assure you, you’ve NEVER, EVER given me the impression you’re one of those people. It’s just very hard to accept. Not for your lack of trying Gustav, definitely. It’s just me. I think I’m finally getting you.

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            This is just terribly perverse of you to compare a 49-year brutal occupation in which you leisurely built, on stolen land, sprawling red roofed white walled villas, “communities,” with swimming pools and kindergartens and universities and highways and stolen water resources, to the urgent wartime situation faced by Truman with 416,800 American soldiers dead and needing to invade incredibly rugged, mountainous dug-in Japan from the sea, with estimates of up to half a million more American casualties as the cost. Just incredible the really sick, twisted self-righteous comparisons you make. Beyond belief.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            BEN:”This is just terribly perverse of you”

            So says the master of perverse. Perverse is your middle name Benny-leh.

            BEN:”to compare a 49-year brutal occupation”

            Don’t forget the context Benny-leh.

            The occupation was caused by brutal Arab aggression.

            The occuupation continues because of continued (for nearly 100 years now) brutal Arab terrorism.

            And the occupation can only end after your Arabs stop their continued terror campaign and sign a peace deal with us which includes our terms too, not just their demands.

            TO BE CONTINUED…

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            BEN:”in which you leisurely built, on stolen land”

            Stolen land? Nah, most of our buildings were built on crown lands. The ones built on private lands were paid for.

            Now since a sovereign Arab Palestinian state never existed, it clearly follows that such a state has no recognized borders and since both Arabs and Jews were residents of the British mandate, it follows that both peoples have the right to live and build on anywhere on the soil of the British mandate (Israel + the West Bank).

            Of course, had your Arabs accepted the recommendations of the UN in 1947, we would have had two states, one Arab, one Jewish, with defined borders and if that would have been the case, we would have no right to build anything outside of our borders.

            But your Arabs rejected the UN recommendation (UN GA Res 181) and they went for broke. They tried to grab all the land and make it all Arab land. So, we too have the right to grab land. If they do it, we do it, Benny-leh. Maybe you people can point out the error of their ways and advise them to make peace with us? That way, neither of us will have the right to grab lands beyond our borders. But till then, thanks to your Arabs, who still refuse to negotiate in good faith, there are no borders. Get it Benny?

            BEN:”sprawling red roofed white walled villas, “communities,” with swimming pools and kindergartens and universities and highways”

            Oops, why do I smell envy in here? Covetous envy. Your Arabs too could have all that if only they wouldn’t waste their time playing soldiers and make peace instead.

            BEN:”to the urgent wartime situation faced by Truman with 416,800 American soldiers dead …”

            Bravo, Benny, you have done it again. I said that we lost 1% of our people in the war of 1948 which your Arabs foisted on us. Let’s put this into the American context. That would amount to about 3.5 million dead Americans. So our war time situation wasn’t urgent in 1948? And I’ll say it again, for your much smaller loss ratio, America nuked two major Japanese cities. But you, an American, trying to tell me that our rection is more extreme than yours was? Okey dokey…

            Reply to Comment
          • Ben

            You are a hoot. There’s is absolutely nothing, we have learned, that you will not excuse and rationalize with some deranged WW2 analogy.
            Oh yeah, nations in urgent “wartime” leisurely build thousands of villas with swimming pools! “We are at war, Benny! Don’t you see??!!” LoL. That’s quite an interesting “war.” Too funny.
            Now to the not funny. There were some 895 Israeli military dead in the 47-48 war. Compared with 416,800 American military dead in WWII. You want to abuse simple statistics about denominators to emotively convert 895 to 3.5 million. Nevertheless, the Americans never, not once, saw 416,800 dead as a reason to build one single settlement in all of Germany or Japan. You will twist anything for the greater glory of the settlement enterprise.

            Reply to Comment
          • Gustav

            What a surprise. I mentioned a few inconvenient facts which turn Bennie’s sheltered little world upside down and he goes into denial mode again…

            WAR: Benny denies that there has been a war going on here for nearly 100 years. It started in the late 1920s, the Hebron massacre, the Arab revolt which spawned a response from us, yes the Irgun too…

            Then came the 1947 Arab riots in protest to the UN recommendation to partition Palestine…

            Then the 1948 war in which….

            “6,373 killed (about 4,000 fighters and 2,400 civilians)[8].”

            Out of a Jewish population of 600,000 in 1948, that represented 1% of our total population.

            Then came the asymmetrical warfare, Fedayeen terrorists, several more major wars.

            Here read about it…

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

            But Benny says, “what war? I Benny-leh see no war, I only see Jewish villas”.

            No Benny-leh, you see nothing, you hear nothing and you even say nothing except your selective view of the world. And you are not even as wise as the three wise monkeys.

            Reply to Comment
    7. Average American

      Gustav: I don’t mind boots on throats at all. USA does it all the time all around the world. But not to its own population. You’ve got an Arab population. You signed up for that when you essentially invaded that region with floods of Jews from Europe and Russia with the express intent of forming a Jewish majority so you can pretend to be democratic, not because you wanted to be democratic but because you knew you had to “look” democratic. Excuse me, Jewish first and then democratic. You terrorized as many as you could out of the region with the Irgun and that’s what you call the “1948 War”. Then you started the 1967 war with a surprise attack on Egypt to gain more land for your Zionist Land of Israel. Now you’ve got some Arab population left and they don’t believe in Zionism. What to do, what to do.

      Reply to Comment
    8. Average American

      Gustav: Just to anticipate or recognize one more thing, USA was brutal to Blacks. Vilified them, made them second class citizens, killed them with radical white groups. We thought somehow it was OK at the time. We did it in the name of religion, in the name of race, in the name of commerce. Then we learned. Why don’t you learn.

      Reply to Comment
    9. Carmen

      I don’t accept the throwing out of numbers of dead Jews by Gustav. This is what I mean by concluding neither he or any of his fellow thespians in this drama I’m calling ‘the defense of tyranny and the continued occupation of Palestine, boots on necks, rape, murder, pillaging and plunder, as explained by Gustav’. How the Jewish israelis can lackadaisically accept the murders of their own is stupefying. The Palestinians protest constantly about the murders of their people and all the other crimes of the zionist state – they’re out there demanding their leadership do something. A recent poll showed 86% of Palestinians want resumption of peace talks compared to 54% of israelis. Clearly the people who have suffered and are continuing to suffer the most are the most motivated for dialogue and change.

      Obviously the ‘lords’ of the land are content with the status quo, and the Jews who are being killed, well, they’re just the ritual sacrifices that your idol demands, right? That’s what keeps illegal settlements standing, right? That’s what keeps them being built, right? You’re nothing but frauds, hypocrites and monsters.

      Reply to Comment
      • Gustav

        Fascinating, how an individual like Carmen can produce such a torrent of lies. She reminds me of Benny. Or is she actually Benny? They are either one and the same or they are just evil twins. Both fluent and shameless liars.

        Reply to Comment
      • Gustav

        “For those who support an uprising, 42 percent are in favor of carrying it out violently, while 30 percent prefer a more peaceful uprising.
        Just over 50 percent support a full-blown intifada against Israel, a long terror campaign that seeks to overthrow the Jewish state.

        Additionally, over 62 percent of Palestinians polled said that they oppose peace negotiations with the State of Israel.”

        http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/11/17/poll-palestinians-support-terrorism-israel/

        Reply to Comment
    10. Click here to load previous comments