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The mentality of conflict: Six steps to avoiding empathy

From Protective Edge to the Jerusalem implosion, the mentality of conflict has been pushed under a microscope. During that time I’ve noticed a few axioms about how Israelis experience these wars. I imagine other sides in other conflicts may share them too, although they require pretty close scrutiny and insider knowledge – so I won’t venture to generalize.

Here is what I’ve seen. “Our” in this case means “Israeli,” since I am one.

1. All our violence against their civilians is a matter of exceptions and anomalies, by bad apples and extremists. When they attack civilians, this represents the true nature of all their people.

2. They don’t believe our facts, because they want to incite their people. We don’t believe their facts, especially when they are filmed, because they are lying.

3. All our violence is justified as response, punishment, or deterrence from further attack. A good example is everything that happened in Gaza this summer. All their violence – such as everything happening in recent weeks – is unprovoked, arbitrary; because they hate us and want to exterminate us.

4. #3 justifies us supporting attacks on them, including civilians. When they support attacks on civilians, it’s proof that they are barbarians.

5. When they kill our civilians, they must condemn them – even when they do, it’s not enough. When we kill their civilians, condemning or even observing the events is the mark of radical leftists and traitors. It warrants cries of “death to Arabs and leftists,” heard frequently.

6. When they say bad things about us , it’s incitement; when we say bad things about them, it’s true.  Primitive, bloodthirsty, beasts, sexual predators, Islam as a religion of blood and death and worse – these are becoming daily fare.

What I am not saying here: There is no condoning terror and violence against civilians, ever.  There is no condoning incitement to terror and violence against civilians. I have nothing to say in support of such things.

But it is becoming maddening to hear and see the very behavior we fear among them, within ourselves, over and over – and lie that we are not doing it. That we are better, superior, above them. Accusing one side without realizing where we too are guilty is nothing other than a form of incitement itself.

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    1. Self-reflection without self-pity. A lot of work goes into making the Palestinian people out to be monsters for reacting in the only way possible to the violence and injustice they receive on a daily, if not hourly, basis. The very way Israelis would respond if the shoe was on the other foot. The way ANYONE would respond.

      “What I am not saying here: There is no condoning terror and violence against civilians, ever. There is no condoning incitement to terror and violence against civilians. I have nothing to say in support of such things.”

      Absolutely.

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      • The Trespasser

        There is no such thing as ‘the Palestinian people’.

        There is no ‘Palestinian language’, ‘Palestinian culture’, ‘Palestinian cuisine’, ‘Palestinian music’ or anything else which could serve as evidence proving that such people exist or ever existed.

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        • Avi

          If the Palestinian People do not exist as you say, who is the radical Netanyahu Government oppressing ? Is it oppressing Israelis then?

          And why are you trying hard to deny the existence of a people who, according to you, do not exist? Sounds to me you have issues. Seek Help

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        • Perry Weiner

          Such a tired and irrelevant cliche, confabulated by US neo-cons. People are what they say they are. The Zionists, who decided to revive what they’ve construed as the ancient Land of Israel and wanted to be called “Israelis,” a new people were pleased to be called that. So, if you muddy the waters of nomenclature with denial of their chosen name and you call them “Arabs,” the Zionists believe they’ve cleverly denied their cause. ‘Taint so. They won’t go away unless they kill them all…

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          • The Trespasser

            “People are what they say they are.”

            Nonsense. Just nonsense.

            “The Zionists, who decided to revive what they’ve construed as the ancient Land of Israel and wanted to be called “Israelis,” a new people were pleased to be called that.”

            That’s a rubbish argument. Each and every person who holds Israeli citizenship – Arab or Caucasian, Jew or Christian, is Israeli, but there is no such thing as ‘ethnic Israelis’ as there is no ‘ethnic Palestinians’

            “you call them “Arabs,””

            Me? Gosh, what else should I be calling Arabs? Martian Gerbils?

            “They won’t go away unless they kill them all…”

            No-one is asking them to go away, no-one needs them to go away. The only demand, and that haven’t changed since 1920, is that Arabs accept that Jews have a right to have homeland in Canaan/Judea/Palestine.

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        • Lo

          If you are right, Mr. Trespasser, then I wonder what you must think of America. Surely there is no more invented people and culture than that of America.

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          • The Trespasser

            And your point being?

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        • Yeah, right

          TT: “There is no such thing as ‘the Palestinian people’.”

          Rabin: ..”the Government of Israel has decided to recognize the PLO as the representative of THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE and commence negotiations with the PLO within the Middle East peace process”..

          The. Palestinian. People.

          You wouldn’t want to make your own country out to be a pack of lying no-good shysters, would you, Trespasser?

          After all, Israel makes great play about the PLO saying one thing in English and another thing in Arabic – it would be a pity to flush that down the toilet by doing exactly the same thing…..

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          • The Trespasser

            “Rabin: ..”the Government of Israel has decided to recognize the PLO as the representative of THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE and commence negotiations with the PLO within the Middle East peace process”..”

            Given the lack of peace in the Middle East, there is hardly a reason to care about what that scumbag had said.

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          • Yeah, right

            TT: “Given the lack of peace in the Middle East, there is hardly a reason to care about what that scumbag had said.”

            It wasn’t just a question of “what Rabin said” – it wasn’t a throwaway line given in a stump-speech or at a press conference.

            It was an official commitment given by him on behalf of the Government of Israel and, as such, was binding upon his government and all the governments that follow.

            If you want to claim that such a commitment can be dismissed with a “I don’t care” then that must, logically, also work both ways

            As in: Rabin gave *that* commitment in response to Arafat’s letter committing the PLO to recognize the right of the stat of Israel to exist in peace and security.

            The cost of an Israel repudiation of that letter will be to free the PLO from its own commitments towards Israel.

            And if you decide you “don’t care” about that then you are a fool.

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          • Brian

            ‘Yeah Right’: nicely articulated and logical reply. Well argued. The Trespasser (was there ever a more apt name) musters no response. He’s all bluster. “Rubbish argument” is his best shot. This exchange between you and The Trespasser approximates the ideal for this forum–anyone reading it can see the lies and the evasions exposed until he just quits, gives up.

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        • The Trespasser is Tomer with a perfect command of english, and a superb command of lies and cruelty. Your boy Ben Gurion knew exactly whose land was being stolen, whose homes were destroyed, whose families were slaughtered and whose cities and towns were being renamed and he called them PALESTINIANS. Your insistence, well not just you, but your denial of a people called Palestinians from the land of Palestine reminds me of another genocidal figure, hung on the gallows he was accustomed to using for Jews, the modern day Haman.

          “Today is history. Today will be remembered. Years from now the young will ask with wonder about this day. Today is history and you are part of it. Six hundred years ago, when elsewhere they were footing the blame for the Black Death, Casimir the Great – so called – told the Jews they could come to Krakow. They came. They trundled their belongings into the city. They settled. They took hold. They prospered in business, science, education, the arts. They came with nothing. And they flourished. For six centuries there has been a Jewish Krakow. By this evening those six centuries will be a rumor. They never happened. Today is history.” Speech by character of Amon Goeth from Schindler’s List. (I know its a movie, but am using it for reference.)

          Is this where you cull your best material? Is this the road you intend to travel?

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          • The Trespasser

            “The Trespasser is … with a perfect command of english”

            Oh, thank you so much. It took me many years to master my English.

            “and a superb command of lies”

            That one you gonna have to prove.

            “and cruelty”
            Well, not even remotely as cruel as those who behead their enemies and kill their daughters and sisters.

            “Your boy Ben Gurion knew exactly whose land was being stolen, whose homes were destroyed, whose families were slaughtered and whose cities and towns were being renamed and he called them PALESTINIANS.”

            By your logic Ben Gurion was an all-knowing being, immune to error. Nonsense, obviously.

            “but your denial of a people called Palestinians from the land of Palestine”

            You see, EVERYONE who live in the land of Palestine is, guess who? Palestinians, exactly. Jews, Arabs, Circassians – everyone. No group has a right to usurp that ethnonym.

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          • You: “There is no such thing as ‘the Palestinian people’.

            There is no ‘Palestinian language’, ‘Palestinian culture’, ‘Palestinian cuisine’, ‘Palestinian music’ or anything else which could serve as evidence proving that such people exist or ever existed.”

            Me: Lies and cruelty. This has been the lie for decades though so you’re just repeating the narrative used by zionists everywhere. It is very cruel.

            Me: “Superb command of lies.”

            That was a mistake and I apologize. You’re no better at it than any of the other right wing nuts here.

            Me: “Your boy Ben Gurion knew exactly whose land was being stolen, whose homes were destroyed, whose families were slaughtered and whose cities and towns were being renamed and he called them PALESTINIANS.”

            You: “By your logic Ben Gurion was an all-knowing being, immune to error. Nonsense, obviously.”

            Me: No. By his own admission this was the plan. And this monster has an airport, schools and streets named after him.

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          • The Trespasser

            Your failure to provide any shred of evidence that ‘the Palestinian People’ had ever existed is a sufficient proof per se.

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        • Josh

          Fascists like Trespisser have to dehumanize others, cause that’s what fascists do to fullfill their inhuman jerk off fantasies.

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      • LucyM

        Hmm. So the “only way possible” for Palestinians to react to “violence and injustice” is going into a synagogue and slaughtering people? Kidnapping teenagers – shooting and burning them? Running over crowds of people waiting for the bus and slitting their throats? Okay. I guess that clears it up.

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      • Perhaps it might be worth considering that the Israeli actions could be the only way they can recover from the devestation of world war two
        What we are seeing Is their attempt to recover.

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        • saeed

          Wha?

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    2. Piotr Berman

      Of course, Dahlia could not go over all important points, but I would add two:

      1. They have a culture of death and we have culture of life. We are always making unprecedented efforts to spare innocent lives (there are no innocents there) and they are killing innocents only (we are all innocent). Did I forget to mention that we stopped children sacrifice 4000 years ago and they keep sacrificing their children?

      2. They are all the same, and we have amazing variety of views (regretfully, even Leftists), races (there are bits to regret there, but there!), and lifestyles.

      3. Without Israel, there would still be no cure for cancer, cellphones, personal computers, and nobody would know efficient irrigation etc. Bow to recognize are awesomeness!

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      • Piotr Berman

        Yea, yea, I promised two points and made three. Who says that Hasbara should be logically consistent?

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      • bernie

        Piotr:

        What has your running itinerary of applauding Jewish feats have to do with the settlement expansion which is, largely, in violation of the law?

        Is annexing land under occupation, removing indigenous from their homes also the expression of the culture of ‘life’???

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        • Pitor is being sarcastic. Know what you are attacking before going into the field. Especially now.

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        • You can’t be familiar with Piotr’s posts as you’d have recognized this as completely sarcastic.

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      • The Trespasser

        Given that Islam is the only world religion which condones human sacrifice (yes, killing enemies while chanting name of one’s god is a human sacrifice) and that Palestinian Arabs are predominantly Muslim…

        Had you ever tried to figure why there was so few, if any, terrorist attacks carried out by Christian Arabs?

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        • Brian

          Let’s leave aside the “human sacrifice” distortion. Let’s empathize with your “gee I wish the neighbor whose house I was breaking into would just call ‘911’ and let the cops arrest me somewhere instead of attacking me with a meat cleaver” complaint. (Except in Israel’s case the “cop,” America, is on the take of the house-invader, but never mind.) The thing that gives your exercise in comparative religion no credibility, Professor Trespasser, is that you have Abu Mazen, who by the admission of your own Shin Bet Chief is a peacemaker, and you go out of your way to vilify and undermine him. Because, as has been repeatedly made clear, Lieberman and Bennet and Netanyahu loathe Abu Mazen precisely because he is like those Christian Arabs you profess to long for. So you profess to long for the Christian but each night you whisper a prayer thanking HaShem for the Muslim fanatic because then you get to continue the hasbara and continue the project of land theft and domination of another people. All they while complaining, like any good colonialist worth his salt, about how primitive “they” are. Go and invade the Christian quarters of Lebanon and send your hilltop youth to the heights thereon to steal it and see how nice the Christians are about it.

          ———–

          There is no one further right than Netanyahu

          http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.625724

          By Nehemia Shtrasler
          11.11.14

          …Now he’s fighting Mahmoud Abbas by repeatedly declaring that Israel has “no partner” for peace, even though the Palestinian Authority president has said he’s ready for a peace deal that will recognize Israel and end the conflict with all the Arab states as well. That’s why Netanyahu hates him. There’s nothing that drives him crazier than Abbas’ insistence on not committing terror attacks.

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          • The Trespasser

            “Let’s leave aside the “human sacrifice” distortion…”

            Nope. Not until you prove that it is a distortion and chanting a name of god while following a testament is not a (human) sacrifice.

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          • The Trespasser

            How comes that each and every leftist retard from West is so well-acquainted with ‘hasbara manuals’ while none of Israelis had ever seen such a manual?

            As of that prayer
            1) Don’t you think that 2000 views is not that much?

            2) Did you ever bothered to read than prayer yourself, you witless creature?

            “Please, let our bullets not hurt those children of our enemies whose “defenders” place them deliberately in danger spots, fire on us and then shield themselves behind their own people”

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          • “Please, let our bullets not hurt those children of our enemies whose “defenders” place them deliberately in danger spots, fire on us and then shield themselves behind their own people”

            That is beautiful “please let the public believe our lies, especially cuz its in a prayer, right?” Straight out of Golda Meier’s maw when she said ‘We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.’ Love the blame the victim trope, its so, so typical.

            Exactly like Bennett’s remark about “self-genocide”

            BLITZER: As we speak, we’re just getting these reports, awful reports, four Palestinian kids, playing on a beach, all of a sudden killed. An Israeli gun boat shell landed there. You’ve heard of these reports, right? Do you — do you –

            BENNETT: I just heard about it this moment. I think it’s terrible that Hamas is butchering its own children. I would never take my children and place them next to missile launchers. Here’s what they’re doing. Hamas is conducting massive self-genocide. They’re taking women and children, placing them next to missile launchers, and shooting the missiles at Israel.”

            – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/hasbarapocalyse-committing-genocide#sthash.Vf7XAMQD.dpuf

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        • Lo

          Mr. Trespasser continues to amaze me with the seemingly endless depth he can insert his head into his rectum.

          I’d bet you think suicide bombings, the most shocking modern armed tactic, originated with Islamic terrorists.

          You would be wrong, but that’s nothing new for you. In fact, the more or less secular Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam really put it to work.

          Like so much else in the world, terrorism is more complex subject than whatever sounds best for the narrow goals of your hasbara.

          You talk a lot about “what Islam says” and how that justifies dehumanizing the Palestinians. I don’t know much about the tenets of Islam mainly because I treat all religions as basically archaic science fiction. What’s far more important to the world we live in are economic and political matters, in which the Israelis have consistently insisted the Palestinians have no legitimate standing to argue for themselves. If politics are a non-starter, that leaves just the non-negotiable lines of religion.

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          • The Trespasser

            “I’d bet you think suicide bombings, the most shocking modern armed tactic, originated with Islamic terrorists.”

            No, silly, I don’t. However I should notice that the earliest cases of suicide attacks, known to me, are those carried out by people of Hassan-i Sabbah.

            “You would be wrong”

            You wish, but I’m not.

            “Like so much else in the world, terrorism is more complex subject than whatever sounds best for the narrow goals of your hasbara.”

            You know nothing of my goals. In fact, you know very little at all.

            “I don’t know much about the tenets of Islam mainly because I treat all religions as basically archaic science fiction.”

            You might treat all religions anyway you like – it is of no importance or consequence to anyone. Jeez, you truly are dumb enough to judge the whole world by the contents of your semi-empty head?

            “…in which the Israelis have consistently insisted the Palestinians have no legitimate standing to argue for themselves…”

            Bullshit.

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          • Brian

            What are your goals, Trespasser?

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          • The Trespasser

            One of my goals is exposing leftist’s lies, double standards and bigotry.

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          • Brian

            Nice mix: exposing leftist’s lies, double standards and bigotry; ethnic cleansing; and population transfer. So much for a rightist to do.

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    3. Absolutely fabulous!

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    4. Sammy

      On point, thank you!

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    5. Michael Pierce

      Hitchens was so right about religion as the headwaters of ignorance and death.

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      • Piotr Berman

        “religion as headwater of ignorance”

        My take is that people managed to be ignorant and bigoted without religion. Take objectivists and their concepts of “savage” and “primitive cultures”. Initially, I was baffled by the slogan “side with the civilized man [against the savage]” promoted by some extremist Zionists in USA, as it harks to genocides of colonialist period, but those folks view themselves as “libertarians”, and this is Randian (objectivist) version, that reserves the concept of rights to the “civilized” folks.

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    6. Mónica Furlan

      Hi, I´m writing from Argentina. Your website caught my attention, I just have been accused of “antisemitic”, and completely ostraziced from the jewish community in my town (Paraná), only for not liking the 400 children killed in Gaza. They claim to be “hurt and offended” by me. If I were a public figure, should I have fear for my life? It sounds extreme but this is what actually happened with those kids on the beach… Thank you.

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      • Bryan

        Thank you Monica. It takes integrity and empathy for others to resist the all-encompassing propaganda and accusations of disloyalty which are the refuge of the scoundrel. Congratulations on achieving freedom.

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    7. Yeah, right

      Lo: “Surely there is no more invented people and culture than that of America.”

      Well, let’s be fair here, the USA is not alone in that regard.

      Heck, even the “Italians” are an invented people, since prior to 1861 they were…. Lombardis, Genoans, Venetians, Sardinians, and sundry others, but not “Italians” because “Italy” didn’t exist.

      But “Italy” and “the Italians” were an invention, I can even name its inventor: Victor Emmanuel III

      And, heck, let’s not even get started with the explosion of states that followed post-WW2 decolonization: inventions, one and all..

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      • Bryan

        The sadness is that The Trespasser in uttering his constant idiocies about no such land as Palestine and no such people as Palestinians has never mentioned that the Israeli Supreme Court declares that there is no such thing as Israeli nationality, because this would undermine the Jewishness of the state of Israel. There are of course American Jews, British Jews, French Jews, Argentinian Jews, Yemeni Jews, Iranian Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, etc, etc, etc but there is apparently no such thing as a Palestinian. The Basel program did not seek to establish “a publicly and legally assured home in Palestine.” The British Mandate did not seek to establish “provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.” Its an Alice in Wonderland world isn’t it. Assuredly Trespasser there are Palestinians, some of whom are Jews and some of whom are Arabs, some of whom are immigrants and some of whom are indigenous, some of whom are colonists and some of whom with their families have been resident for centuries.

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        • Bryan

          Even more infuriatingly, Trespasser, those Palestinians who don’t exist are the descendants of those Jews who did not desert Palestine for the flesh-pots of Alexandria, Rome, Athens, Corinth, Baghdad, Constantinople and elsewhere. The Palestinian Jews were never exiled by the Romans – those most attached to the soil, especially in Galilee, remained there and most underwent conversion, first to Christianity, and then to Islam. These Palestinians then have a much higher claim to the land than those Jews who sojourned in the Diaspora for centuries. They are the indigenous inhabitants of the land and the descendants of Abraham, if that guy is anymore than a carefully cultivated myth.

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    8. Guy L.

      “Accusing one side without realizing where we too are guilty is nothing other than a form of incitement itself.”

      Yes- I couldn’t agree more. It works both ways though- and I think that everyone, both left and right is guilty of this.

      The “Six Commandments” outlined in the piece are not exclusively Israeli\right wing, but are equally shared amongst the Palestinian\left wing as well.

      Oddly enough- an Imam’s car was vandalized in Akko the other day. The cops are looking at two possible leads:
      1) The Imam went to visit the families of those killed in the Jerusalem synagogue. Palestinian extremists poured acid on his car in protest.

      2) The Imam is Muslim (obviously). Jewish extremists poured acid on his car in protest.

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    9. The Trespasser

      “If the Palestinian People do not exist as you say”

      I’m not saying anything, merely pointing out that there is nothing out there which would prove that such people exist or ever existed.

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      • Brian

        Trespasser: I find it useful when assessing character to ask: “If this person had been born a Gentile in Germany in 1920, how would he/she have behaved if given the opportunity? An enthusiast (the SS)? An active supporter? A passive supporter and ‘patriot’ (average Wehrmacht draftee)? Indifferent? A passive resister? An active resister (Hans and Sophie Scholl, other righteous Gentiles)?” Ask yourself: Where would Trespasser have been? Remember, you are NOT a Jew, you are a German Gentile born in 1920 with all sorts of ideas about “the Jews” including “I’m not saying anything, merely pointing out that there is nothing out there which would prove that such people….”

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      • The Trespasser Friday
        November 21, 2014

        There is no such thing as ‘the Palestinian people’.

        There is no ‘Palestinian language’, ‘Palestinian culture’, ‘Palestinian cuisine’, ‘Palestinian music’ or anything else which could serve as evidence proving that such people exist or ever existed.

        And later the very same day –

        The Trespasser Friday
        November 21, 2014

        “If the Palestinian People do not exist as you say”

        I’m not saying anything, merely pointing out that there is nothing out there which would prove that such people exist or ever existed.

        Thanks for clearing that up, obviously both statements are light-years apart and could never be confused with even remotely meaning the same thing. [sarcasm ;)]

        “How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right.”
        – Chief Makataimeshekiakiak or translated as Black Hawk of the Sauk

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        • The Trespasser

          And again, it is not me who is trying to prove that ‘the Palestinian People’ had never existed, it is you who are not able to provide any evidence that such people had ever existed.

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          • Should you have to prove you exist? I believe you do, here you are. I don’t deny the existence of people who claim they are a people, live in a specific place, etc. You need to have proof? The fact that you don’t believe what is presented on a daily basis here makes me pretty sure you just squatting on that perch and won’t be moved. There’s nothing I can provide you (nor is it my responsibility to). That’s always the bottom line with you folks.

            Did you hear the rumor that the earth is round?

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          • The Trespasser

            Are you really THAT stupid? No-one is denying existence of Palestinian Arabs.

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          • Brian

            TrespaSSer,

            What’s your point and the point of all those who think they’ve said something nifty and enlightening when they talk about “invention”?

            Ben-Gurion, Barak, Netanyahu, Perez, and Ya’alon were all invented from Gruen, Brog, Mileikowsky, Perski, and Smilansky. Etc.

            If that isn’t invention I don’t know what is.

            You’re laughable, or you would be if you weren’t so ugly. Still haven’t answered the “How would you have behaved….?” question I see. There were lots of ‘polite’ Gentiles in Germany in the 1930s who snidely insinuated “Those Jews…I’m not saying anything, merely pointing out that there is nothing out there which would prove that such people….” Then they filled in the blanks.

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          • The Trespasser

            I won’t spend my time trying to communicate to dishonest scum such as yourself.

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          • Brian

            Because you CAN’T, loser.

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          • The Trespasser

            Well, you are right in the sense that I can’t win an argument with an idiot.

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          • Brian

            Well, TrespaSSer, you’re on record calling Yitzhak Rabin a “scumbag,” so I figure I’m in excellent company. I suppose he was an “idiot” too. Unlike that sterling example of Jewish humanity and intelligence, Yigal Amir. He’s a hero of yours?

            Trespasser
            Friday
            November 21, 2014

            “Rabin: ..”the Government of Israel has decided to recognize the PLO as the representative of THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE and commence negotiations with the PLO within the Middle East peace process”..”
            Given the lack of peace in the Middle East, there is hardly a reason to care about what that scumbag had said.

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          • The Trespasser

            Well, only an idiot would try to make peace with a terrorist who never had intention to make peace.

            Speaking of heroes: only those who can’t think for themselves need other people as ‘heroes’ or ‘role models’. Alhamdulillah, I have no such need.

            But tell me please, who is your hero? Eichmann, maybe?

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          • Brian

            Interesting that you should bring up Eichmann as a role model, Trespasser. Your alter ego Tomer talks quite frankly about mass population ‘transfer’. Eichmann was very good at that.

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          • The Trespasser

            Bullshit. Eichmann was persecuted not for population transfer.

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          • Brian

            Are you kidding me? Eichmann was the master of forced deportation i.e. population transfer. That is what his role in the Shoah was all about. That is what I meant in regards to your bringing up Eichmann as role model.
            P.S.: You must mean (I hope) prosecuted not “persecuted.”

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    10. The Trespasser

      “Bryan
      Friday
      November 21, 2014
      The sadness is that The Trespasser in uttering his constant idiocies about no such land as Palestine”

      I never said that, you dishonest piece of camel dung.

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    11. GilGamesh

      Hi Dehlia, here is what I’ve seen, from the majority of the contributors to 972 and the people who comment on the articles.

      1) All our violence against Israeli civilians is what can be expected from a people who have been occupied. Running over infants is terrible but the Palestinians have been provoked.

      2) Only some facts count, and when you use headlines like “WATCH: Soldiers protect settlers attacking West Bank village” to depict a video of 4 stones being thrown from a great distance from any village and only shows one group and not the other, that seems like incitement to me.

      3)All Palestinian violence is justified as response to occupation. The occupation is only the fault of Israel. The Palestinians have always just wanted peace and Israel is totally at fault for any conflict.

      4) The goal of Zionism has always been to drive all Arabs from Israel and the territories all violence is the fault of the Zionists because they are barbarians.

      5)When Israeli civilians like the 3 kids who were kidnapped are targeted and killed it is excused by the commentators on 972. When that was followed by the brutal murder of a Palestinian child by Israelis it was totally and without reservation condemned by the entire pro Israeli blogosphere.

      6) Are you seriously trying to claim that those same terms are not used on cites like 972 and especially Mondoweiss to describe Zionists? Do you even read the anti-Israel comments here?

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    12. Brian

      Marnie, above, you accurately name it: Lies and cruelty. You also rightly link Trespasser and Tomer. Good eye. Good ear. Consider the possibility that ‘Tomer’ is actually the same person as ‘Trespasser’ — that Trespasser uses Tomer as his primitive mask for expressing his overtly fascist SS-style core beliefs.

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