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Gaza: Over 100 Palestinians, 13 Israeli soldiers killed in single day

At least 100 Palestinians, including 66 in the Shujaiyeh neighborhood of Gaza City – of which 17 were reportedly children – were killed today (Sunday) bringing the total death toll to 437. Thirteen Israeli soldiers were killed Sunday in battle in the neighborhood, bringing the number of Israeli fatalities over the course of the operation to 18, not including two civilians who died in rocket attacks.

Army sources said seven of the 13 Israeli soldiers were in an armored personnel carrier hit by an anti-tank missile, while others were killed setting up positions inside houses they had taken over.

The death toll was the highest for the Israeli military’s since the Second Lebanon War, and the highest number of Palestinians killed since fighting broke out on July 8. According to Ma’an News Agency, 66 bodies were recovered from Shujaiyeh, in what medical authorities called a “massacre” and a level of violence not seen before in the ongoing conflict.

According to Ma’an, news of the kidnapping sparked celebration across Palestinian cities, with gunshots and fireworks heard in Gaza City, Bethlehem, and elsewhere.

Gazans flee the Shejaiya area after Israeli tanks invaded the area, bombarding it heavly, causeing over 60 casulties and hundreds wounded, July 20, 2014.  (Basel Yazouri/Activestills.org)

Gazans flee the Shejaiya area after Israeli tanks invaded the area, bombarding it heavly, causeing over 60 casulties and hundreds wounded, July 20, 2014. (Basel Yazouri/Activestills.org)

At least 500 Palestinians were injured in Israeli attacks on Wednesday, and more than 3,000 have been wounded in the past two weeks, while Reuters reports that 81,000 displaced people had now taken refuge in 61 UNRWA shelters.

Earlier on Sunday, Prime Minister Netanyahu told CNN that Israel has no plans of reoccupying the Gaza Strip. President Barack Obama spoke to Netanyahu on the phone, telling him that the U.S. seeks “an immediate cessation of hostilities” between Israel and Hamas, based on the cease-fire agreement implemented in November 2012 after Operation Pillar of Defense. Hours later, Netanyahu addressed the Israeli public, saying that the operation will be extended as necessary. Netanyahu added that after Israel accepted three cease-fire offers, it now has international backing for the ground operation.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will travel to Cairo on Monday to meet with Egyptian officials about the crisis. Kerry was caught sarcastically criticizing Israel’s ground operation, saying the incursion was “a hell of a pinpoint operation,” and that “We’ve got to get over there… We ought to go tonight. I think it’s crazy to be sitting around.”

Related:
Palestinian human rights leader: ‘Cast Lead was a joke compared to this’
PHOTOS: Scenes of devastation from deadliest day in Gaza
WATCH: Dozens of bodies strewn in the streets of Gaza
Gaza war diary: ‘A second of silence, then the bombs go off’

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    1. Arb

      I guess we won’t be seeing the talking point about how Israel has no casualties any more. What will you pro-Palestinian propagandists do?

      Oh, I know, you’ll report what Gaza “medical authorities” report as if they aren’t Hamas spokesmen (which he is – the same guy from 2012, by the way), and you’ll neglect to mention all the warnings Israel sent to this part of Gaza for civilians to leave, for several days now. Hamas told its people to ignore the warnings.

      Israelis are fools for sending warnings in advance. They think they could appease Arabs, Arab supporters and leftist useful idiots, especially in Europe, with their phone calls, leaflets, broadcasts and warning bombs. In the end, all it does is cost Israeli lives, allows Hamas terrorists to avoid death and capture, and doesn’t make Israel’s critics stand down at all. So why bother? So Israel can adhere to supposed laws of war which nobody else bothers to respect, much less the Palestinians? Apparently so.

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      • Reza Lustig

        Just to piss you off, I’m going to do what you usually do and play the “not as bad as” game. From your logic, 13 measly Israeli casualties (ground combat) is nothing to drop one’s fudge over, compared to the hundreds of Gazan civilians dead thanks to Israeli bloody-mindedness.

        And as to “leaving,” apart from jumping into the Mediterranean and swimming to Italy or Greece, living in the Sinai mountains like a bunch of hillbillies, or trying their luck with the Egyptians (they treat Palestinain refugees so well), what exactly do you suggest to the Gazans who are called on to leave their homes for the sake of your holy crusade against Hamas?

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        • Sonnehuhr

          Rez, my suggestion is that the Palestinian civilians kick the Hamas leaders and operatives out of the underground bunkers and occupy them while leaving Hamas to fight the war. Isn’t this as it should be, the civilians in shelter and Hamas fighting the war they escalated?

          The Palestinians can go and live in their lovely football stadiums in which tens of thousands of Gazans cheered speeches by Hamas leaders, like Fathi Hammad and Ismail Hayineh, calling for the destruction of Israel and a genocide of Jews.

          They can also go live in the mosques were Imans call Jews monkeys, dogs and apes. They can go live in the many schools and universities which during the school year teach jihad and military training.

          The Palestinians could go live in the former Israeli settlements from which Israel vacated nine years ago so the Palestinians could build new towns for their population instead of the terrorist camps which they built instead.

          The Palestinians could surrender their arms and rockets and agree to demilitarize Gaza and have a chance at a peaceful life rather than the life of jihad and war brought to them by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PLPF, the PRC and other terrorist groups.

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          • Reza Lustig

            Yes, what a brilliant idea. Unarmed civilians should solve the problem of being at the mercy of tanks and airstrikes by picking a fight with their own government (which is not unarmed). And it goes without saying that civilians living under a government that gives them little-to-no say in running society are completely responsible for what their government does.

            Chew on this: if Israel is ever attacked by an actual army, with Tel Aviv being bombarded by air-stikes on a daily basis, and the advice given to the Jews is to leave and be refugees in Europe and America, just remember that you’d be getting a taste of your own callous medicine.

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          • Sonnehuhr

            What do you mean “if Israel is ever attacked by an actual army”? Israel has been attacked time and time again and always found places for their people who were forced to leave their homes until the hostilities quieted down.

            Israel was attacked in 1948 by seven armies and shelled hour in and hour out. Jewish refugees found shelter with other Jews. In 1967 Jordan shelled Jewish Jerusalem and bombed Tel Aviv. Throughout the 1960s Syria shelled Northern Israel. In 1973 Arab countries again attacked Israel, In the 1970s Israel was again shelled by the Palestinians conventional army in Lebanon. In 2006 one million Jewish displaced persons found refuge in other parts of Israel when Hezbollah rocketed Northern Israel.

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          • israelikan

            Damn israel, damn the zionist. Damn amerikan foreign policy.

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          • Reza Lustig

            I meant if they attack you again.

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          • Gustav

            “And it goes without saying that civilians living under a government that gives them little-to-no say in running society are completely responsible for what their government does.”

            Hold on there, buddy. Aren’t you people always the ones who claim that Hamas represents the Palestinians? And that Hamas was democratically elected by the Palestinian people?

            Shouldn’t the Palestinian people be the ones to tell Hamas that they don’t want this war?

            What gives?

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          • Reza Lustig

            A lot of dictatorial governments are “democratically elected.” Does that mean the citizens have a say in the running of their society.

            And no, I don’t think fomenting political strife in Gaza is the way to stop violence. Why don’t you ask Bibi to consider Hamas’ demands, and stop bombing kids on beaches?

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          • Reza Lustig

            Fortunately, though, this is not the treatment you would be getting. Nobody deserves to have to leave their home just because politicians (at home and abroad) want to treat them like pedestrians in a Grand Theft Auto game.

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          • Sonnehuhr

            Rez, this is the treatment Jews received over the long duree of history. Not only were Jews expelled in ancient times from their homes by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks and Romans, but in modern times by Muslims and Christians.

            In 1948 many Jews within Mandate Palestine were left homeless when every community conquered by the Muslim nations was cleansed of all Jewish life. The West Bank and Gaza were made Juderein.

            In additions the Arab nations expelled 850,000 Jews from Arab countries as they promised to do before the war. Israel settled most of these refugees in Israel. Israel found room for a million Jewish refugees from Russia. Israel found space to provide shelter for over a million Jews in the 2006 war with Hezbollah.

            Jews have always made room for its refugees. Why are the Palestinians and Arabs unwilling to open their homes for Palestinians who need to flee the fighting?

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          • israelikan

            Sonnehu. Which version of history are u reading? Not the version the rest of the world knows. The zionist are scum, invaders, mass murderers, and one day in the near distant future… israel will vanish from this earth… and the world will rejoice at the annihilation and destruction of the illegal state of bloody israel together with your sponsor the cursed amerika

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          • Moe

            Yeah, let’s demilitarize Gaza, like we demilitarized the West Bank. I wonder how life in the West Bank turned out? Oh wait, it is still terrible? Jewish-only settlements are multiplying in numbers? People are still humiliated at the military checkpoints? Why should Gaza demilitarize, then?

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          • Sonnehuhr

            The West Bank was not demilitarized, the guns merely have gone underground. The al-Asqa Martyrs Brigade retains their arms. Hamas and Islamic Jihad cells continue to exist in the West Bank. It is Israel’s presence in the West Bank which prevented a Hamas coup in the West Bank.

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          • Goldmarx

            Wrong. There is no Hamas coup in the West Bank because Abbas works together with Israeli security to keep the calm there, as Larry Derfner has pointed out tirelessly.

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          • GilGamesh

            Especially when Hamas’ current strategy is working so well.

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      • Sean Mullin

        Hi Arb. According to reports from civilians coming from within Gaza. The feeling is there was nowhere to run to. Also the ferocity of todays assault was unprecedented. Hamas aren’t preventing anybody from leaving their homes. The kidnapping is significant because Israeli society doesn’t usually stomach soldier casualties too well. It might get Israelis of the hills celebrating the bombings with their friends and pop corn and onto The streets demanding negotiations. People in the west are gob smacked at what is happening. Despite the rocket attacks from Hamas,and sympathy for the dead soldiers it looks as though Hamas are more surgical in targeting combatants than one of the worlds most advanced militaries. Might be time for alot of Israelis to revise their perspectives: They asked for this

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        • Arb

          “According to reports from civilians coming from within Gaza. The feeling is there was nowhere to run to.”

          There is. The southern part of Gaza, for example.

          “Also the ferocity of todays assault was unprecedented.”

          Should it have been less fierce? 13 soldiers killed and 66 ending up injured severely enough to be sent to hospitals? Obviously, this “neighborhood” had been converted by Hamas into a booby trap.

          “Hamas aren’t preventing anybody from leaving their homes.”

          Not true, they sent messages to this neighborhood’s residents to ignore IDF warnings to leave. And there are reports that there were also threats involved that after the war Hamas will retaliate against those who left.

          “The kidnapping is significant because Israeli society doesn’t usually stomach soldier casualties too well.”

          What an evil society.

          “It might get Israelis of the hills celebrating the bombings with their friends and pop corn”

          I’m assuming you’re talking about the residents of Sderot who for over a decade have absorbed thousands of rockets launched at them by Palestinian Gazans and were sitting there watching as the IDF was doing its best to put a stop to the rocket-fire?

          “and onto The streets demanding negotiations.”

          Negotiations? My guess is they will demand the complete destruction of Hamas. You guys who hate Israel are always confused as to whether to label the Israelis as weak and cowardly or as monstrous and overly strong. I guess you use whatever fits.

          “People in the west are gob smacked at what is happening.”

          Of course they are. They’re always gob smacked when it comes to Israel. Never mind that in Syria, three days of fighting would cause more deaths than this entire operation or that in Egypt they killed 550 protesters in one day. When Israel responds to a 1000 rockets and kills 300 people, at least half of whom are terror-group members, people are gob smacked. Those people should have rockets launched at them regularly and see what they think is an appropriate response.

          “Despite the rocket attacks from Hamas,and sympathy for the dead soldiers it looks as though Hamas are more surgical in targeting combatants than one of the worlds most advanced militaries.”

          Um, what are you talking about? Over 100 of the Palestinian rockets, about 8%, have fallen inside Gaza. The other 1300 have been launched at all manner of targets inside Israel. If they miss, it’s only because of Iron Dome. Surgical? Seriously silly comment.

          “Might be time for alot of Israelis to revise their perspectives: They asked for this”

          Well, Israel did leave Gaza entirely in 2005, and left not a single Jewish civilian or soldier in that territory – precisely the type of move that Israel’s opponents are demanding that Israel make in Judea and Samaria. I guess that was “asking for it.” Let’s hope Israel has learned from “asking for it” and does not “ask for it” from Judea and Samaria Palestinians. Fool me once…

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          • Oren Aviv

            These are soldiers during operation. Fully legit kills if unfortunately. They are not civilians.

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          • Oren Aviv

            Are you beyond stupid? The whole of Gaza is being assaulted. Gaza is one giant internment camp full of refugee camps, where are these refugees going to flee? To another refugee camp where there is no place to host them and in short notice? You do know that Gaza is the worlds most densely populated area and world biggest prison camp?

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          • Sonnehuhr

            “You do know that Gaza is the worlds most densely populated area”.

            Why do you lie? Gaza is not even close to being the most densely populated place. Gaza has a population density of 9,000 persons per square mile. Manila in the Philippines has a population density of 111,000 persons per square mile. Cairo has a density of 46,000 persons per square mile. Paris has a density of 54,899 per square mile. Gaza does not even crack the top 50 most densely populated areas in the world.

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          • Sonnehuhr

            BTW the United States has 131 incorporated municipalities with a population density greater than Gaza. It has 16 states plus Puerto Rico and DC which have population densities greater than Gaza.

            So much for Palestinian propaganda.

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          • Goldmarx

            You lie by comparing different groups of numbers. You cannot compare an entire territory with one city, i.e. Gaza to Cairo or Manila.

            Gaza is more densely populated than Egypt. Gaza is more densely populated than the Philippines. case closed, Likudnik.

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          • Arb

            Hi Oren, pleased to make your acquaintance.

            Gaza is precisely what its government, Hamas, wants it to be. Take, for example, the issue of military tunnels into Israel. For years we have been hearing how the blockade prevents construction materials from getting into Gaza. Israel relented to pressure, like always, and allowed materials in. Are there new schools in Gaza? No, there are tunnels going into Israel that are shored up with tons and tons of construction materials.

            The fact the Egyptians sealed their border with Gaza and destroyed the tunnels from Sinai? Also Hamas’ fault. They bet on Morsi. Bad move.

            Regarding where to go and to hide, the IDF is bombing specific targets and most of them, especially at present are in northern Gaza. People have sufficient time to move away and there is enough space.

            In fact, there is more space in Gaza than in Tel Aviv where population density is about 75% greater than in Gaza.

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          • Arnon Levy

            Send all the Gaza “refugees” to Oren Aviv’s house. While you are at it, send all the Eritreans there also!

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          • Goldmarx

            Why Eritreans? Because they’re black?

            God forbid anyone should call you a racist!

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          • Goldmarx

            Once again, Arb repeats his Likud lies:

            “Well, Israel did leave Gaza entirely in 2005, and left not a single Jewish civilian or soldier in that territory – precisely the type of move that Israel’s opponents are demanding that Israel make in Judea and Samaria. I guess that was “asking for it.” Let’s hope Israel has learned from “asking for it” and does not “ask for it” from Judea and Samaria Palestinians. Fool me once…”

            They only left the inside of Gaza to surround Gaza from the outside by land, sea and air, transforming it into an open-air prison.

            You keep repeating your crap, and I and maybe Danny and Ms. Lustig will never stop pounding your hasbarah into the garbage can from which it came.

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          • Reza Lustig

            I’m with you 🙂

            Also, just so you know, I’m a Mr., not a Ms.

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          • Arb

            Goldmarx, first you claim that I lie, then you acknowledge that what I said is true and bring up a different subject as your contention that I’m wrong. They did leave Gaza, as you admit, so where is the lie? The fact that they defend their borders? Every last Jew is out of there and look what Israel has gotten in return.

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          • Goldmarx

            I never claimed you said anything truthful. Your use of the word “leave” means the occupation is over in Gaza. It’s not, really. It just took a different form.

            Acting like a jailhouse lawyer won’t save you.

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          • Arb

            No, they left. As you noted. They left. Every single soldier. Every single Jewish resident. Gazans live in Gaza, governed by other Gazans and with a border to a country that has always claimed to be an advocate for the Palestinians. Stop making things up.

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          • Sean Mullin

            Arb, oh dear…
            -southern Gaza;
            How many more times would you like to make these people refugees? Where do they shelter? What amenities are there for them? Can you think of any places Palestinians might suggest Israelis go if threatened..birth place of parents maybe??
            -less fierce?
            Uh, yes. Their civilians , dummy
            .-Evil society?
            no such thing. Only individuals and their actions. Some might suggest someone who gets all warm and fuzzy over an armed to the teeth isreali but disregards a non Israeli child smeared on concrete like jam isn’t the best person to go for a pint with.
            -Syria, Egypt
            please. Get. Over. The. Paranoia. I was on the streets for syrians and Egyptians. I campaigned. Was disgusted alongside all my peers. Blood is blood, assad doesn’t have so much support in the US or EU press/governments.
            -Sderot
            i,ve been there. Tell me again how many have died there? Now explain the neo facists in Tel Aviv. Explain the thousands of overtly racist social media by stupid, sheltered Israeli youth. Explain also the hundreds of israelis who despite a powerful system of social conditioning, bravely march against Israeli agression.
            -precise Hamas:
            the rate of death from (morally repugnant sections of) Hamas rockets is about the same as it was before the iron done: practically none. If i were you id take a more analytical look at that dome thingy.
            -2005 withdrawal.
            Israel left when the water rsn out. It blew up the settlements. It immediately seized control of the borders; ergo, according to international law, the occupation continues.
            now, i don’t know if you’re stuck in some Orwellian hasbara war room or just in your bedroom but don’t feel bad that your arguments are crap as Einstein couldn’t excuse what is happening. Its inexcusable. Continue to embarrass yourself if you must. Your whining and disregard for all life except Israeli soldiers sum up the sickness infecting so many of your ilk, regardless of nationality or religion.

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          • Arb

            Hey Sean,

            Were you drinking while writing that? It shows.

            “How many more times would you like to make these people refugees?”

            Don’t look at me, man. I didn’t start this war, Hamas did. They’re the ones who placed Gazans in this terrible predicament.

            “Where do they shelter? What amenities are there for them?”

            I don’t know. Ask Hamas. Ask UNRWA which has helped to perpetuate this conflict. What I care about is that the rockets and tunnels from Gaza stop.

            “Can you think of any places Palestinians might suggest Israelis go if threatened..birth place of parents maybe??”

            It’s a little hard to do this. You see, half of Israel’s Jewish population belongs to the 99% of the Jews of the Muslim world which had to leave after 1948. They don’t have any place to go back to and they have helped to build a great but small country in Israel that they now call home. The people who launched the war that led to these Jewish refugees living in Israel are Palestinians…

            “-Evil society?
            “armed to the teeth isreali but disregards a non Israeli child smeared on concrete like jam isn’t the best person to go for a pint with.”

            Dude, having a pint with you would be would be more boring than having a pint with my big toe. As the reaction to the murder of Khdeir demonstrates, you vilify Israel falsely. It’s also a bit of a joke that you do this while next door Hamas’ brothers in spirit have killed in 3 years more Arabs than the total number of Jews and Arabs (from all nations involved in Israeli-Arab conflict) have died in a century. But I’ll bet you don’t talk about what it would be like to have a pint with them.

            “-Syria, Egypt
            please. Get. Over. The. Paranoia. I was on the streets for syrians and Egyptians. ”

            What paranoia. 550 people were killed by army in one day in Egypt. As noted above, when Assad doesn’t use chemical weapons, he is half of one of the most brutal wars ever.

            “-Sderot
            i,ve been there. Tell me again how many have died there?”

            What are you talking about? People cannot lead normal lives there because of the rockets. When you were there, did you see the new school they had to build so it would have a fortified roof? You think this is normal? You think many people have to die in order for you to consider this serious – you who lectures me about whether Israelis care about a baby smeared on the ground? Asshole.

            “Now explain the neo facists in Tel Aviv.”

            Tel Aviv is the city with the leftists, dolt.

            “Explain the thousands of overtly racist social media by stupid, sheltered Israeli youth.”

            Um, they see rockets being launched at them, people vilifying them, suicide bombers and kidnappers coming after them, and they’re angry. But you are kidding, right? I mean, do you need me to point you to ten Youtube downloads of Palestinian tv shows for kids supporting the killing of Jews and vilifying Jews?

            “Explain also the hundreds of israelis who despite a powerful system of social conditioning, bravely march against Israeli agression.”

            Sure, I’ll be happy to explain. They are useful idiots. Apparently the “social conditioning” is so powerful that this debate has been going on for decades and two leftist PMs signed Oslo and then offered the Palestinians a state. You really are a boor.

            “-precise Hamas:
            the rate of death from (morally repugnant sections of) Hamas rockets is about the same as it was before the iron done: practically none.”

            That’s because as they got more advanced rockets, Israel developed a more advanced counter-system. You want to hold Israel responsible for finding ways to protect its citizens? Are you drunk?

            “If i were you id take a more analytical look at that dome thingy.”

            Why? Because you’re upset Hamas rockets aren’t killing enough Israelis?

            “-2005 withdrawal.
            Israel left when the water rsn out.”

            Idiot, Israel has one of the most advanced water systems in the world. It uses gray water extensively, has sophisticated desalinization plants and conserves water very effectively. Water had nothing to do with leaving Gaza. By the way, Israel has offered the PA multiple chances to improve their water usage. The Palestinian refuse…

            “It blew up the settlements. It immediately seized control of the borders; ergo, according to international law, the occupation continues.”

            Ergo nothing. There is a debate about whether it’s still an occupation and the people who tend to say that it is are Israel’s enemies and haters. Do you know why? I’ll explain since you’re a bit of dim bulb. The reason is that Gaza is absolute proof of what Palestinians do when the Israelis move their forces and civilians out. There is no occupation in Gaza. It is governed fully by its elected government, Hamas. Hamas controls borders, tunnels, the ministries that run the territory, has a police force, an army, a prime minister, laws, courts and no Israelis whatsoever.

            “now, i don’t know if you’re stuck in some Orwellian hasbara war room or just in your bedroom but don’t feel bad that your arguments are crap as Einstein couldn’t excuse what is happening.”

            I don’t feel bad at all. I’m laughing at you.

            “Your whining and disregard for all life except Israeli soldiers sum up the sickness infecting so many of your ilk, regardless of nationality or religion.”

            Old tactic, this business of trying to attack me on bullshit. Let me help you out a bit. I’m one of the very few people on this site, writer or commenter, who actually believes in and hopes for a two state solution. I abhor war, hope the Palestinians wake up soon so they could have a life without Israel in the mix and that Israel will enjoy peace.

            You, on the other hand, are, along with so many of the fools writing here, actively seeking to perpetuate this conflict. As I said, you’re a dim bulb.

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          • Sean Mullin

            Your argumentative powers are amazing Arb, i would never have thought missing every single point I was making and arguing against some other point no one was making could be such an effective way of winning an argument. Well done, I’m truly in my box. An extraordinary tactic, where have I seen it before? With every single pardoner of unnecessary bloodshed ever. Text book Hasbara: deception, distraction, denial and then just insults. The insults are the most valid part of your whole rant. I hope someones paying you well. You must hate yourself man, i’ll leave you to it. I hope you get better.

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          • arb

            You needed to prove you had one more idiotic comment in you, right? Well, congratulations, you accomplished quite a feat. Even Goldmarx doesn’t hold a candle to you.

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      • Heba

        Dear Arb, the world is quicky getting sick and tired of idiots like you who have neither the courage nor decency to see/admin that Israel has anything to do with this mad mess not just in gaza but in the all of Palestine. Hamas sucks and so do most of the Palestinian leaders but that does not justify what Israel is doing. Anyone who thinks this is ok/justified is blinded by their ignorance and prejudices or devoid of humanity.

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        • Arb

          Hi Heba,

          Israel caused this mess with the Palestinians? It’s the other way around. Israel was willing to accept a state on a tiny fraction of the land it eventually won because the Arabs refused compromise.

          Israel resettled Jewish refugees from Arab lands. The Arab states, which are responsible for the 1948 war and its outcome, refuse to settle Palestinian refugees. How is that Israel’s fault?

          As for Gaza, Judea and Samaria, two Israeli PMs have offered about 97% of this land to the Palestinians as a Palestinian state. How is it Israel’s fault they didn’t accept?

          As for the current fighting and Gazan situation, it’s not Israel’s fault Egypt shut down all the tunnels and closed its border with this territory. In fact, Israel continues to supply food, medicine, power and water to Gaza – even in wartime. Egypt, on the other hand closed all option to Gazans…who blame Israel.

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      • Joe Fadel

        Arb, Where do you suggest the Palestinians in Gaza go to when they are warned by Israel of impending attack? Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated areas on the planet with only 138 sq miles housing 1.8 million people, half of which are children.

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        • Gustav

          They should go to Hamas and force them to agree to a cease fire. And then make sure that Hamas and their other terrorist buddies don’t break it.

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          • Reza Lustig

            Leave it to the invader to fault the enemy civilian population for not coming around to his way of thinking and “defecting.”

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          • JohnW

            “Leave it to the invader to fault the enemy civilian population for not coming around to his way of thinking and “defecting.”

            Invader? Are you deliberately trying to incite hatred?

            Hamas was the one which started the rocket fire, again. Why?

            Because of the blockade, so they claimed.

            Israel then retaliated heavily.

            Egypt then proposed a cease fire which Israel accepted while Hamas rejected and continued it’s rocket fire.

            So what exactly do you expect Israel to do? Give in? Why should it? Why should it give in and lift the blockade without Hamas willing to renounce it’s intention to destroy Israel? You must be some kind of a nut, Reza. Either that, or you think that we are nuts.

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    2. JohnW

      Here we ga again. The Arab lobby in Frankfurt, Paris, London and Los Angeles can’t get enough of Israel’s so called genocide. What? 400 dead Palestinians and tens of thousands demonstrate in front of Israeli embassies and besiege synagogues, chanting death to the Jews.

      What hypocrisy! Where are those same demonstrators when Arabs murder Arabs in Syria and Iraq, by the hundreds of thousands?

      It is time for the Arabs in those crowds to return to where they came from and refrain from importing the Middle East into western countries. As for their western supporters, all one can say is that they are Jew hating hypocrites. Time to come out and admit it. Hatred of Israel = antisemitism! Criticism is not. But the westerners who join the demonstrations are not just criticising Israel. They display hatred of Israel a hatred that is reserved solely towards Jews which they disguise as hatred of Israel because it isn’t yet fashionable again to openly hate Jews.

      I urge all decent people who are part of the silent majority to post in publications like these and present measured opinions to counteract the hatred and the haters.

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      • Tim Arnold

        That’s an interesting rant from the zionist lobby. I attended one of those marches at the weekend and I have to say that I didn’t hear one word that could have been described as anti- Semitic. Nor did anyone shout death to the Jews. It was made clear that there would be no violence even if it was directed at us first. All in all a very dignified affair. Sorry about that.

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      • JG

        Go crawl back under your rock, fascist who loves Israel, but inside you’re the same old anti-semite as your Kameraden

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        • Arieh

          “Go crawl back under your rock, fascist who loves Israel, but inside you’re the same old anti-semite as your Kameraden”

          Amusing.

          Short on facts and logic, high on emotion.

          Go take a chill pill, JG. 🙂

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    3. JohnW

      “That’s an interesting rant from the zionist lobby.”

      Do your homework, punk, before you accuse others of lying or ranting. Read this:

      http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.605977?v=2D197BAE0674370C317B55CE52B3FFBE

      “Anti-Semitic slogans were chanted on Thursday at an anti-Israel protest in Berlin, held following the attacks in the Gaza Strip. The protesters, who waved Palestinian flags, yelled, “Jews, Jews, cowardly pigs, come out and fight!”

      I don’t know which rally you attended but the one in Germany sure sounds antisemitic. And the ones in some other countries too. Just ask me and I’ll post more of them.

      By the way, have you attended rallies which protest Arabs killing 200,000 other Arabs in Syria and Iraq?

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      • Reza Lustig

        Every demonstration has its’ crazies. Should we condemn Occupy Wall Street in its entirety because there were Black Bloc morons smashing windows?

        Why don’t YOU go organize a demonstration against Syrian violence, if it’s such an important issue to you?

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        • JohnW

          “Why don’t YOU go organize a demonstration against Syrian violence, if it’s such an important issue to you?”

          I am not the demonstrator type. But you lot seem to be.

          What I find strange is your selective outrage. You obviously don’t care about the murder of Arabs. Otherwise, at the least you lot would line up and perform hystrionics in front of the Syrian embassy for the murder of 200,000 Arabs. But one never sees such scenenes. Why?

          Can you tell us why? O mighty Reza?

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          • andrew r

            Israel is perceived as being supported financially by the US and Western Europe (But especially the US) whereas the Syrian regime isn’t. The major demand is for the US to end military aid to Israel. Large demonstrations against the Assad dictatorship would essentially be calling for military intervention in Syria, and this would not be a well-received prospect among most anti-Israel demonstrators, who by the way aren’t calling for intervention against Israel, either.

            In all honesty, as the years wear on I’m starting to think this is fair criticism. Assad has killed more than his fair share of Palestinian refugees in the last three years on top of everyone else. But there’s also the question of who these demonstrations will be aimed at. It sure won’t be Bashar – he doesn’t give a shit.

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          • JohnW

            “In all honesty, as the years wear on I’m starting to think this is fair criticism. Assad has killed more than his fair share of Palestinian refugees in the last three years on top of everyone else. But there’s also the question of who these demonstrations will be aimed at. It sure won’t be Bashar – he doesn’t give a shit.”

            Thank you AndrewR for your honesty. I know you are a supporter of the Palestinians and we have our differences of opinion about this conflict. But at least you are honest. Unlike some of the other anti Israelis who post here.

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          • Gustav

            @John

            Don’t get carried away with AndrewR’s honesty.

            What essentially he admits to is that he would like to see Israel disarmed while the Russians continually arm Assad and Iran.

            If he and his kind would succeed, how do you think that would end up?

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          • andrew r

            I’m sure your thought process behind that conclusion would be very uninteresting. Are westerners supposed to demand sanctions against Russia? They have enough of an uphill struggle changing the foreign policy of their own governments.

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          • andrew r

            In the event of a military attack on Israel, the US will likely reactivate the military aid. Maybe Israel will just have to conserve its remaining stockpile for actual defense and not expanding across the green line.

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          • Gustav

            “In the event of a military attack on Israel, the US will likely reactivate the military aid.”

            You think so? Why? Because you would go out and demonstrate that they should?

            Don’t worry, you won’t have to. Israel’s arms supplies will not be cut in the first place in spite of the hystrionics of the mostly Arab demonstrators and the much smaller faithful puppy dog like western supporters. The silent majority who don’t make noise are not on your side.

            So you guys can jump up and down as much as you like but you will have as much effect as you say you would have over Russia. You know why? Because the western policy makers know that despite all the rhetorics. When push comes to shove, Israel is their only reliable ally in the Middle East.

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    4. JohnW

      Here is some more, punk:

      http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/french-rioters-set-fire-to-cars-during-gaza-protest-in-paris-1.1922772

      “An umbrella group representing French Jews, known as CRIF, said Sunday night that the Sarcelles synagogue was attacked. The group said that in nearby Garges les Gonesse, Molotov cocktails were thrown at another synagogue, starting a small fire that was quickly extinguished.
      CRIF denounced “fanatic groups” behind the attacks and said anti-Semitic violence “is growing by the day.”

      Now show me the protests about the murder of 200,000 men, women and children in Iraq and Syria. Murder of Arabs by Arabs?

      Well? I am waiting …

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      • JohnW

        These reports about France are usually a load of BS. I don’t trust them anymore. These horrible anti-semitic attacks have the strange tendency to vanish when you search in French.

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        • JohnW

          “These reports about France are usually a load of BS. I don’t trust them anymore. These horrible anti-semitic attacks have the strange tendency to vanish when you search in French.”

          Oh lovely.

          Now some smart arse deliberately uses the same name as me, “JohnW”, to confuse everyone.

          I did not say what’s within the quotation marks above in this post and the previous one. Some idiot who cannot handle counter criticism about antisemitic demonstrators, said it.

          I quoted this link and I stand by what it says:

          http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/french-rioters-set-fire-to-cars-during-gaza-protest-in-paris-1.1922772

          You don’t like it? Go argue with them and use your own name when you do, idiot!

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    5. Gustav

      http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/French-prime-minister-Behind-hatred-of-Israel-lies-hatred-of-Jews-363607

      “French Prime Minister Manuel Valls on Sunday drew a direct line between the hatred of Israel – as seen in violent protests across France and elsewhere in the world against Operation Protective Edge in Gaza – and the never-ending hatred of Jews.

      He spoke at a ceremony marking the 72nd anniversary of the Vel’ d’Hiv Roundup, a mass arrest of Jews in Paris by the French police, directed by German authorities, during the Second World War.”

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    6. Goldmarx

      “Stop making things up.” Nope, that’s your department. Exiting a territory only to surround it in a vice is a fraud.

      Of course you know that, but you can only respond with baseless insults. Anyone who pulls that BS in my face might lose theirs.

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      • Gustav

        “Exiting a territory only to surround it in a vice is a fraud.”

        Surrounding a hostile territory in a vice is self preservation. Have you heard of self preservation? Everyone is allowed it. Both Arabs and Israelis.

        For Arabs, self preservation would be not to pick a fight with Israel.

        For Israel, self preservation is to stop Hamas from being able to import better weapons with which they could kill more Israelis with. Hence the blockade.

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        • Reza Lustig

          So what constitutes an acceptable form of “self-preservation” to people who are trapped, and without access to foreign trade or necessary goods, inflicted by you? Getting on their hands and knees and licking Bibi’s shoes?

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          • JohnW

            Nope!

            Just give up their intention to destroy Israel. And say so. Also, stop the rockets.

            It ain’t rocket science you know.

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          • Goldmarx

            And before they first fired rockets, the Gazans were still suffering from the Israeli-imposed blockade. So what was your excuse then?

            By the way, when Hamas joined the Palestinian Unity government, it implicitly recognized Israel, since Abbas already does. Not that Abbas has much to show for it…

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          • JohnW

            “And before they first fired rockets, the Gazans were still suffering from the Israeli-imposed blockade. So what was your excuse then?”

            Nope!

            The rockets started from Gaza in 2001. There was no blockade of Gaza in 2001.

            “By the way, when Hamas joined the Palestinian Unity government, it implicitly recognized Israel, since Abbas already does. Not that Abbas has much to show for it…”

            Utter nonsense!

            There is no such thing as implicit recognition. They did nothing to amend their written charter which calls for the replacement of Israel by an Arab Muslim state.

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          • Goldmarx

            So are you saying that Hamas was firing rockets from Gaza while there were thousands of Jewish settlers living there and Israeli soldiers stationed there? In 2001?

            Did the PLO amend its charter? Did the Likud amend its “Greater Israel” document?

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          • Average American

            W, you can’t be serious about the rockets. Puny fireworks with horrible guidance systems or none at all, pitiful desperate efforts. Against Israel, the regional nuclear supermilitary. Israel keeps Gaza in existence so Israel can say its tanks are being damaged by little pebbles thrown. A clumsy elephant (Israel) screeching about a little flea (Gaza). Why doesn’t Israel just occupy Gaza and there would be no rockets? Drop the pretense? Israel wants to occupy all of what they call The Land Of Israel. should be embarrassed.

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    7. Arieh

      “Anyone who pulls that BS in my face might lose theirs.”

      Who are you talking to? Is that a threat?
      🙂

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      • Goldmarx

        My remark was addressed to Arb. Are you Arb?

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    8. Katie

      I don’t understand how this “operation” could be justified anymore. How could the death toll on both sides be justified if the initial reasoning was a barrage of rockets from Gaza to Israel that led to no casualties.If the Iron Dome is as successful as it’s touted to be then why take an offensive approach? Netanyahu and his political agenda are responsible for all deaths in this war.

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      • JohnW

        “I don’t understand how this “operation” could be justified”

        Me neither. And I blame Hamas.

        Right at the beginning, Egypt tabled a cease fire proposal.

        Israel unilaterally abided by it for several hours.

        Hamas rejected it because they claimed they were not consulted. And they continued firing their rockets non stop.

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    9. Average American

      Oh my, thirteen! Wow! 13 Israelis! How many Americans died for Israel in Iraq? Over false Israeli “intelligence”? Just so Israel can get closer to its Zionist objective of controlling all of The Land Of Israel for The Jews? Over 4000 Americans. Israel is a manipulator and they are proud of it. Get the goyim to do it, Jewish blood is more important.

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      • Gustav

        Repeating the same little ditty 1,000,000,000,000 times does not make your claims true.

        It just makes you sound demented.

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        • Average American

          But no one disputes the ditty’s truth.

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          • Gustav

            No one? You only think so because you are wilfully blind and deaf.

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