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Netanyahu's transfer plan: Turning dispossession into tradition

Netanyahu recently proposed that Israel revoke the residency status of tens of thousands of Palestinians in East Jerusalem who live beyond the wall. This appalling idea will merely continue what is already in motion: years of ‘quiet transfer.’

By Hagai El-Ad

A Palestinian couple cross a roadblock set up by Israeli police in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Ras al-Amud in east Jerusalem, on October 14, 2015. Israel set up checkpoints in Palestinian neighbourhoods of east Jerusalem and mobilised hundreds of soldiers as a collective punishment after recent attacks by Palestinians. (photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

A Palestinian couple cross a roadblock set up by Israeli police in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Ras al-Amud in east Jerusalem, on October 14, 2015. Israel set up checkpoints in Palestinian neighbourhoods of east Jerusalem and mobilised hundreds of soldiers as a collective punishment after recent attacks by Palestinians. (photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

The latest proposed experiment to emerge from the Prime Minister’s Office – revoking the residency of Palestinians who live in the areas of Jerusalem that Israel abandoned east of the separation barrier – is, of course, disgraceful. The idea, which has since been rejected, exemplifies an instrumental approach to people based on racist demographic considerations, using revocation of residency to maximize territorial control while minimizing the presence of Palestinians in that territory, entailing various forms of human rights violations.

Netanyahu looks at Shu’fat, at Ras Khamis, at Samiramis, and at Kafr ‘Aqab and does not see people. He does not see more than 100,000 Palestinian residents of Israel – families who wish to earn a living; children in need of schools; individuals with personal, national and religious identities whose lives are intertwined with the city of Jerusalem. Instead, he sees a demographic bloc that can and should be removed.

This proposal may come as a shock but in fact, every part of it has already been successfully tried, and has been under way in Jerusalem for years. The only novelty is combining all these elements – status, territory, and demography – in a single initiative.

Change of legal status? Already happening. Since 1967, Israel has slowly but surely revoked the residency of more than 14,000 Palestinians in East Jerusalem. This “quiet transfer” – first exposed in a report by HaMoked and B’Tselem in 1997, almost 20 years ago – uses administrative excuses to revoke the permanent resident status that Israel gave Palestinians after annexing East Jerusalem. Since residency status can be revoked, the only permanent aspect of it for Palestinians is the possibility that it may be temporary.

A Palestinian resident of East Jerusalem walks into a checkpoint that separates the entirely walled-off neighborhood of Shuafat Refugee Camp, East Jerusalem, December 27, 2011. (Anne Paq/Activestills.org)

A Palestinian resident of East Jerusalem walks into a checkpoint that separates the entirely walled-off neighborhood of Shuafat Refugee Camp, East Jerusalem, December 27, 2011. (Anne Paq/Activestills.org)

Physical separation from Jerusalem? Already happening. Many Palestinian neighborhoods in Jerusalem have recently been cut off from the city with roadblocks, hopefully only for the time being. Examples include Issawiya, Jabal Mukaber, a-Tur, and Sur Baher. Yet tens of thousands of Palestinians have lived like that for a decade, separated from the rest of Jerusalem by a high concrete wall. To enter their city they must go through a checkpoint — at Qalandiya or at Shuafat — often waiting for over an hour to pass.

Try and imagine yourself living like that, not for a day or two, but every single day. Every day, going through a checkpoint on your way to work, to university, to friends or relatives, to hospital, or to the mall. When the residents of these neighborhoods petitioned Israel’s High Court of Justice, the state was obligated to ensure that crossing checkpoints would be part of “a reasonable system of access to Jerusalem.” Readers are invited to visit the checkpoints at Qalandiya or Shuafat one morning and judge how “reasonable” the situation is. If you’re not sure, quiz yourself: how long could you live under such a “reasonable system?”

What the eye doesn’t see, the heart doesn’t miss? Already happening. Jerusalem is formally run by a single municipality responsible for rendering municipal services to all residents. In practice, Palestinian residents of the city who live beyond the separation barrier have evaporated, as far as the municipality is concerned. These residents have not had their status revoked, and the state is obliged to service them. So what?

A Palestinian couple cross a roadblock set up by Israeli police in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Ras al-Amud in east Jerusalem, on October 14, 2015. Israel set up checkpoints in Palestinian neighbourhoods of east Jerusalem and mobilised hundreds of soldiers as a collective punishment after recent attacks by Palestinians. (photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

A Palestinian couple cross a roadblock set up by Israeli police in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Ras al-Amud in east Jerusalem, on October 14, 2015. Israel set up checkpoints in Palestinian neighbourhoods of east Jerusalem and mobilised hundreds of soldiers as a collective punishment after recent attacks by Palestinians. (photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

The government and the High Court became party to a lie when the residents’ petitions were denied on the grounds that the separation barrier is reasonable and proportionate. This empty excuse is a shabby cover for artificially cutting entire neighborhoods off from Jerusalem. As the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) recently wrote to the prime minister, the people in these neighborhoods find themselves living in a no man’s land, suffering a severe shortage of basic services – roads, classrooms, sewage, and more – in conditions that are quickly deteriorating into poverty, filth and crime.

For Netanyahu and for many others, Palestinians in Jerusalem are a nuisance at best. They are not seen as people with equal rights who live in their city along with the rest of Jerusalem’s “panoply of identities,” but rather as a security threat (from time to time) and as a demographic danger (always). Revoking their residency and removing them from Jerusalem? Israel has been doing that for years. Netanyahu said nothing new – he just suggested a step up in current policy. That is how it goes in Jerusalem: since 1967, dispossessing Palestinians in the city has become a tradition.

Hagai El-Ad is executive director of B’Tselem. This article was first published in Hebrew on Local Call. Read it here.

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    1. Ginger Eis

      Only a deranged racist would arm him- or herself with meat cleavers, machetes and kitchen knives and butcher his fellow citizens simply because said fellow citizens are of a different race/ethnicity and religion. This is the crime Baleztinians are committing today – as we speak – against Jews simply because they are Jews!!

      Only a deranged racist would run them over his fellow citizens with cars and busses crushing them to death simply because said fellow citizens are of a different race/ethnicity and religion. This is the crime Baleztinians are committing today – as we speak – against Jews simply because they are Jews!!

      Only a deranged racists would organize teenagers to ambush fast moving cars of their fellow citizens on the road/highway, pelt said cars with rocks and force them to crash killing the occupants (the entire members of the same family: father, mother and infant babies!). This is the crime Baleztinians are committing today – as we speak – against Jews simply because they are Jews!

      +972mag, its entire columnists and the entire ugly, anti-Semitic thugs from Europe and elsewhere who hallucinate and rant daily on this site against Israelis and the Jewish Stat do not and will not condemn this Arab brutish barbarism that at the same time is not just the root cause of the conflict, but also fundamentally against the very human rights and fundamental freedoms they hypocritically claim to support and defend. These hateful imbeciles salivate for- and privately celebrate the barbarous butcher of innocent Jews by Baleztinians on the streets of Israel and want the Jewish State gone.

      But I have good news for y’all: the Jewish People are not defenseless anymore as they were during the centuries of pogroms, dispossessions, mass rapes, murders and mass murders in Arab Muslim countries! The Jewish State IS and Will Ever Be. Any ugly heads such as y’all that rears itself up against it will be crushed!

      The Jewish State will defend her existence and the lives of her citizens – at all cost! Only a dead-ender will test her resolve to accomplish that goal.

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      • Yeah, Right

        GE: “Only a deranged racist would arm him- or herself with meat cleavers, machetes and kitchen knives and butcher his fellow citizens simply because said fellow citizens are of a different race/ethnicity and religion.”

        Indeed true.

        GE: “This is the crime Baleztinians are committing today – as we speak – against Jews simply because they are Jews!!”

        Quite untrue.

        As far as those Palestinians are concerned they are striking out at passers-by not “simply because they are Jews” but because the people they are striking out at are seen as oppressors.

        That may be self-defeating.
        That may be futile.

        But it is, indeed, the reason why they are striking out at those passers-by.

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        • Ginger Eis

          Everywhere you have Muslim Arabs, there rules mayhem, murders, mass murders, beheadings, rapes, ethnic cleansing and Genocide – from Iraq to Syria, from Libya to Yemen, etc. Your justification is the same justification offered for the slaughter of over 3000 innocent Americans in New York by Muslim Arab jihadis. Your justification is the same justification offered for the Genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass beheadings, mass rapes of innocents and other crimes against humanity being committed RIGHT NOW by Muslim Arabs against the Yazidis and the Christians in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere. It is nothing new and your attempts at whitewashing are at best miserably clumsy and say a lot about who you are and the hate in your heart. When Muslim Arabs thirst for blood, they arm themselves with meat cleavers, axes and machetes and start butchering innocent people in the street and/or running them over with cars and busses, while claiming that they are fighting for “human rights” and “striking out at those seen as the oppressors”? How depraved of you!

          This is the summary of what is going on in Israel today and why the Palestinian Arabs are butchering Jews on the streets of Israel.

          Watch. And Weep!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOqPMdyrMio

          That’s the Muslim Arab Imam calling on Muslim Arabs to go and slaughter and swim in the blood of their Jewish victims!

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          • Yeah, Right

            Ginger, you claimed that Palestinians are stabbing Israeli Jews “simply because they are Jews!!”

            You are incorrect, and demonstrably so because each and every one of those people who are being stabbed aren’t “just Jews”.

            This is a fact: every single one of those “Jews” is also an “Israeli”.
            So is this: “Israel” is most definitely oppressing “Palestine”.

            So when a Palestinian takes a knife to an Israeli Jew, are they taking that knife to “a Jew” or are they taking that knife to “an Israeli”?

            You insist that it is the former.

            You are incorrect, it is the latter.

            I know that you don’t want to hear that, but that’s because the truth hurts.

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          • Ginger Eis

            The video tells you all you need to know.

            The content of the video is not extremely difficult to understand.

            That video contains the outward expression of what lives in the hearts and minds of the Muslim Arab butchers. That is what your depraved personality supports and tries to rationalize. The identity of your unintended murder victim (mistaken to be Jew) is not just irrelevant, but most importantly negates not your intent to murder specific persons of specific race and nationality: Jews.

            Regardless,

            “He who knows not and knows not he knows not: he is a fool – shun him”.

            I do not waste my time on fools.

            Be gone!

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          • Ben

            A copout. You mount no actual argument, Eis. Those Israelis could be Mormons or Episcopalians or Hindus or Buddhist or Mayan Jaguar God followers. If they behaved the way they have and continue to behave toward a subject indigenous population they would still be stabbed. And some among the stabbed no doubt would be schreiing about anti-Mayanism etc. Their Judaism is incidental. Their oppressive colonialism is not. That does not mean that the stabbers are doing the right thing or helping themselves. But neither are you and you ought to stop hiding behind a false sense of victimhood. It’s manipulative. As you know.

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          • Hercules

            Oh boy…. Ginger always make Ben and “yeahright” go wild and berserk start ranting gibberish mumbo jumbo from “Ben” in support of terrorism.

            Good job, Ginji!

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          • Hercules

            Oh boy…. Ginger always make Ben and “yeahright” go wild and berserk and start ranting gibberish mumbo jumbo in support of terrorism.

            Good job, Ginji!

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          • Yeah, Right

            It is always gratifying to see how Ginger’s Mum will go online to tell us all how proud she is of Her Lil’ Ginji.

            But, please, why do you keep changing your moniker?

            Why bother with “Hercules”, when “Ginger’s Mum” is perfectly acceptable, not to mention much more accurate?

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          • Hercules

            Seems this donkey-head who used to call himself “Jonh boy” and now uses the odd moniker “yeahright” is not just as dumb as a rock as is “Ben/AverageAmerican”, but also a social-misfit who has an unhealthy relationship with his own mum and likes to rant about other people’s mums.

            Meanwhile, Ben has started posing as “AverageAmerican” again and producing more gibberish mumbo jumbo.

            Poor Ben….eh…. “AverageAmerican”!

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          • Average American

            Ben: You are correct here. The purpose of the formation of The Martian State is for Martians Only to lebensraum into all of The Land Of Martians, by force if necessary, no matter who is already there, because Martians are more important than you. Also, the Martians aren’t making it well know that their Land of Martians is much bigger than their current Martian State, which means they intend to expand. The Martians are behaving alot like The Venutians in the 1930’s, the West Bank is Poland.

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          • Gustav

            BEN:” you ought to stop hiding behind a false sense of victimhood”

            …there you have it folks. You heard it from Benny. It is official…

            …stabbed, kidnapped, run down (by cars), rocketed, blown up by bombs or molotov cocktails those are NOT victims because they are Israeli civilians…

            …the only victims, whines Benny, are Palestinian Arabs who perpetrate the above and who were given numerous chances to end the occupation but who CHOSE not to end it because one of the conditions to end it would involve them having to renounce their old policies of aggression against …. fill in the blank.

            Personally, I think the blank that we are talking about is ISRAEL. But some people pretend that we are talking about martians, Mormons or Episcopalians or Hindus or Buddhist or Mayan Jaguar God followers. One has to ask, are they delusional? Not much, huh?

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          • Ben

            Gustav: “…those are NOT victims because they are Israeli civilians…”

            The whole point here, which you missed, is that Eis said these people were stabbed for being Jews. Yeah Right pointed out quite correctly that that is false. They were stabbed for being Israelis. Israelis complicit in oppressing Palestine. That’s what the whole exchange here is focused on. You missed that. You missed the whole point.

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          • Daniel

            “The identity of your unintended murder victim (mistaken to be Jew) is not just irrelevant, but most importantly negates not your intent to murder specific persons of specific race and nationality: Jews.”

            Is that too sophisticated and finely formulated for you and YR to understand? Did you watch the video which is just one evidence of public calls on Palestinians to go and kill Jews?

            Perhaps you can explain to us why the murderers do not strike in e.g. Um el Fahm or stab those Israelis wearing hijab, burqas or other clothing identifying them as Muslims (or Christians)?

            It does seem that you are either not extremely clever or too fixated on Ginger to think rationally. Which one is it, Ben?

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          • Gustav

            BEN:”They were stabbed for being Israelis. Israelis complicit in oppressing Palestine”

            Yep you heard it from Benny. It is official. He just confirmed it again. Israeli civilians are fair game. They are not victims…

            Only Palestinians are the victims. Benny constantly whines to us about it. Even though at least two Israeli prime ministers offered them their own state in the last 15 years but they refused the offer because it would have required them to finalise this conflict without eradicating the Jewish state in the process.

            Yet according to Benny, we are still the ones at fault and we are still the oppressors. Go figure…

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          • Ben

            I never said anything about who is the victim and who is not. I only commented on why Israelis were being stabbed. Eis said it was “simply because they are Jews!!” No. Not so simple by a long shot.

            Ginger’s mother asks, “Perhaps you can explain to us why the murderers do not strike in e.g. Um el Fahm or stab those Israelis wearing hijab, burqas or other clothing identifying them as Muslims (or Christians)?”

            That’s easy. Because those Israelis are readily identifiable as Israelis that almost certainly oppose the occupation and cannot be said to be complicit in the occupation.

            Eis began this comment thread with an emphatic, categorical assertion that these Israelis were stabbed “simply because they are Jews!!” That has been exposed as a false assertion

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          • Gustav

            BEN”I never said anything about who is the victim and who is not. I only commented on why Israelis were being stabbed.”

            Really, Benny? Then who did you say this to and why….?

            BEN:” you ought to stop hiding behind a false sense of victimhood”

            You said it to Eis, Benny and you said that about Israeli civilians. And you said that they are not really victims.

            Are you embarassable, Benny? Nah.

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          • Ben

            Again I have to spell things out:

            There is a difference between being a victim and having a false sense of victimhood. Rather elementary. I said TO Eis that she ought to stop having a false sense of victimhood. I did not say that ABOUT Israeli civilians. And I did not say that Israeli civilians “are not really victims.”

            You have falsely represented (aka twisted) what I said.

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          • Gustav

            BEN:”There is a difference between being a victim and having a false sense of victimhood. Rather elementary.”

            Elementary my dear Watson huh?

            Now cut the BS Benny. You said what you said but you are now backtracking at 1000 miles an hour. At least I woke you up and you now realize that you put your own foot in your own mouth. That’s somethin’ at least…

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          • Ben

            No, in fact, I said what I said and not only am I not backtracking one bit I am engaged in carefully reiterating and explicating precisely the same thing I already said all over again, and to do that I am having to spoon feed it in tiny bites to those who seem to have trouble biting off, chewing and digesting moderately complex thoughts. You can invent a charge of backtracking but it is just that: an invented charge of backtracking that bears no relationship to reality whatsoever. Will I have to spoon feed this post to you too?

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          • Gustav

            LOL.

            Ok Benny, have it your way. You have both said that it is Halal to target Israeli civilians and you didn’t say it at the same time.

            You poor little man. The only sense that you are making is that you don’t make sense.

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          • Ben

            Honestly I don’t know how you passed your reading comprehension exams in school. Maybe you read and think more clearly in Hebrew. One hopes.

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          • Gustav

            Behold the Benny-isms…

            Benny to Ginger he admonished her for showing a video in which a Palestinian Arab religious fanatic preaches hatred and murder against Jews.

            BEN:” you ought to stop hiding behind a false sense of victimhood”

            After my sarcastic comment to him, Ben responded thus…

            BEN:”They were stabbed for being Israelis. Israelis complicit in oppressing Palestine”

            After a further sarcastic comment from me, Ben said this…

            BEN”I never said anything about who is the victim and who is not. I only commented on why Israelis were being stabbed.”

            After I asked Benny whether he is embarassable or not, he went into spin mode…

            BEN:”There is a difference between being a victim and having a false sense of victimhood. Rather elementary.”

            I then gave him the chance to save face and attempted to acknowledge that at least he is backtracking, but Benny would have none of it and retorted…

            BEN:”No, in fact, I said what I said and not only am I not backtracking…”

            I in exasperation said this to Benny…

            GUSTAV:”Ok Benny, have it your way. You have both said that it is Halal to target Israeli civilians and you didn’t say it at the same time.”

            And Benny’s response was …..?

            BEN:”Honestly I don’t know how you passed your reading comprehension exams in school. Maybe you read and think more clearly in Hebrew. One hopes.”

            I’ll just leave it at that. Suffice it to say, once again he has managed to make a laughing stock of himself. He has s&@t for brains…

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          • Daniel

            @Ben/AverageAmerican or whatever your name is:

            “Ginger’s mother asks, “Perhaps you can explain to us why the murderers do not strike in e.g. Um el Fahm or stab those Israelis wearing hijab, burqas or other clothing identifying them as Muslims (or Christians)?” That’s easy. Because those Israelis are readily identifiable as Israelis that almost certainly oppose the occupation and cannot be said to be complicit in the occupation.”

            On the other hand, those dressed as Jews are readily identifiable as” Jews. All Jews “almost certainly” SUPPORT “the occupation” and may be slaughtered. Well said, Ben! EXACTLY Ginger’s point: the intended murder victims are Jews; the murder victims are Jews; the non-Jewish victim are either accidental victims or considered collateral and will go to paradise along with the murdering jihadis. Someone remarked below that “Ben is very, very smart”. That is best sarcasm on this thread, yet. There will never be shortage of imbeciles like Ben and YahRight on +972.

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          • Ben

            New name for youse two guys: “Twisty n Shifty.” LoL. Wear it proudly, HimmelHabicht.

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          • Gustav

            Troll alert!

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          • Ben

            Ahem. My goodness. Have you looked at the repellent, deranged, racist abuse pouring forth from your fellow right wingers right here on this page? And you want in the face of that torrent to lecture others? That really is very funny coming from a crowd that routinely dispenses this kind of thing—one has to look no further than this page:

            “Everywhere you have Muslim Arabs, there rules mayhem, murders… [Please try to imagine if somebody wrote here “Everywhere you have Jews, there rules (fill in the blank)]. He who knows not and knows not he knows not: he is a fool – shun him”. I do not waste my time on fools. Be gone. Oh boy…. Ginger always make Ben and “yeahright” go wild and berserk start ranting gibberish mumbo jumbo from “Ben” in support of terrorism. Good job, Ginji! Seems this donkey-head who used to call himself “Jonh boy” and now uses the odd moniker “yeahright” is not just as dumb as a rock as is “Ben/AverageAmerican”, but also a social-misfit who has an unhealthy relationship with his own mum and likes to rant about other people’s mums. Meanwhile, Ben has started posing as “AverageAmerican” again and producing more gibberish mumbo jumbo. Poor Ben….eh…. “AverageAmerican”! …. And Benny’s response…He has s&@t for brains… Someone remarked below that “Ben is very, very smart”. That is best sarcasm on this thread, yet. There will never be shortage of imbeciles like Ben and YahRight on +972….blah blah blah….”

            Look up there upon this page. It’s all there. And you always assume a pass for this kind of thing. Typical.

            Now, against that mighty torrent, that fire hose of abuse, you aim this gentle, bucolic, bubbling, sunshine-dappled brook of light humor:

            “New name for youse two guys: “Twisty n Shifty.” LoL. Wear it proudly, HimmelHabicht.”

            LoL. What better to demonstrate the difference between being a victim and hiding behind a false sense of victimhood?

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          • Gustav

            Interesting. Benny responded to a post of mine which wasn’t even published. What’s the message in that? Oh yea, I know…

            Now about racism, Benny. I think I told you about this before. But I’ll tell you again…

            War brings out the worst in people. Yes, it brings out the racist in us. Me too Benny. And it brings out the racist from your Arabs too. Most protagonists in most wars breeds racists on both sides. All that violence, aggression, etc, ya know Benny…

            But what is your excuse Benny. You claim to be an American. You are not at war with us. So why are you such a racist against Israelis/Jews? Is there anything about yourself you are not telling us, Benny? What a question… Of course there IS!!!

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          • Ben

            You manage the signal right wing conflation. You say “racist against Israelis/Jews.” This does two things. It conflates Israel with Jews, and it confuses principled opposition with racism, and so that someone opposed to Israeli policies must be opposed to Jews and ineluctably, racist against Jews. Ran Baratz publicly calling President Obama an anti-Semite–apparently any disagreement with the Israelis on policy and strategic matters can be called “what modern anti-Semitism looks like in Western and liberal countries”–just like that–then Baratz saying it’s ok because he said it in a private citizen capacity–“Ok, anything else?” — all of this shows both that you can’t embarrass at least him, and that the Israeli leadership will indeed hide behind a false sense of victimhood at every opportunity. It’s their standard mode of thinking.

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          • Gustav

            You call what you said below a principled stand against Israeli policies?

            BEN:”They were stabbed for being Israelis. Israelis complicit in oppressing Palestine”

            You call your endorsement of this type of statement sardonic, Benny?

            BEN: “You can’t embarass an Israeli”.

            I say, you are the one who can’t be embarassed you racist little twerp Benny.

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          • Ben

            No, Twisty, I call it a statement of how Palestinians think when they stab Israelis. Nothing more nothing less. No endorsement implied, Twisty.

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          • Gustav

            Really Benny? So let us see you say that you don’t endorse Palestinian Arab thinking. You never stop criticizing us. But we don’t ever see you criticizing Palestinian Arabs for ANYTHING! That is as good as endorsing their “thinking” particularly since you accuse those of us who complain about their random murder of Jews you accuse us of false victimhood, you racist little twerp.

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          • Ben

            Again, I wonder about your basic reading comprehension. To make a statement about how Palestinians who stab Israelis think when they stab Israelis–in response to an over the top racist, false-victimhood-peddling screed by Eis about “Jews stabbed only for being Jews!!”–is not remotely to endorse what Palestinians who stab Israelis think when they stab Israelis, let alone to endorse “Palestinian Arab thinking,” whatever that is. I endorse the thinking of some Palestinian Arabs and not others. I endorse the thinking of the Palestinian Arab thinkers who write for +972. As well as the Israeli Jewish writers who write for +972. They are not a faceless mass of “Arabs” or “Jews.” To imply they are, as you do, is racist. Everything you say is drenched in racist generalizations. Now, you can mindlessly append “you racist little twerp” to every post hereabouts as is your curious mental tic lately but don’t expect anyone to take you seriously. (Since when by the way have we ever seen you criticize the settlements and the terroristic behavior of the IDF in the territories? It certainly has sounded like you endorse that behavior.)

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          • Gustav

            Benny still shimying and tap dancing. He has no problems constantly criticizing israelis as a faceless monolithic group. Notice how gleefully he endorsed some faceless aparatchick’s comment about “Unembarassable Israelis”. Nah, our racist little Benny had no problems with that.

            Benny only has problems with Israelis complaining about incitement by a religious Arab fanatic of a preacher who urges his followers to murder Jews wherever they can find Jews (look at Ginger’s video). Benny admonishes such Israelis as professing false victimhood.

            Benny claims that all that is not tantamount to him endorsing the random stabbing of Israeli civilians. Yet when I invited him to specifically condemn such attacks against Israeli civilians, Benny point blank refuses to do so. He just ducks and weaves.

            Benny fools no one. But Benny is certainly unembarassable.

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          • Gustav

            BEN:”They were stabbed for being Israelis. Israelis complicit in oppressing Palestine”

            Those were Benny’s words. Not mine. And he was the one who talked about Israelis as a faceless group at least in the minds of those Palestinians who have been doing the stabbings.

            All I asked Benny is to condemn the thinking of THOSE Palestinian Arabs. But he point blank refuses. He ducks, weaves and tap dances. He points the finger he does everything to avoid condemning the thinking of THOSE SPECIFIC Palestinian Arabs.

            Folks, you can come to your own conclusions. One thing is for sure though. Benny is un embarassable. His skin is as thick as a rhino’s skin. Maybe even thicker…

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          • Ben

            Hey Gustav, it works both ways. You go first. Can I get you to condemn the settlers destroying Palestinian olive groves and stealing Palestinian land and water? Can I get you to condemn all the cheating and thieving things Israel does to Arabs in East Jerusalem day after day after day? Can I get you to condemn all the things that Breaking the Silence and +972 have shown that the IDF does to terrorize and brutalize the Palestinians in the territories? Can I get you to condemn the fact that it is day # 47 since the IDF killed Hadil Hashlamoun and has refused to produce the video? Can I get you to condemn the fact that it is day # 99 since the Dawabshe family was murdered by firebombing and the murderers remain still at large –and that this is, according to Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon because although he knows who was responsible, Israel does not want to bring them to justice so as “to avoid exposing intelligence sources.” Yep, you read that right. While it took at most three days to identify and arrest the Henkin family murderers? Let’s see you condemn these things. I await your reply with interest.

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          • Gustav

            Aaaaand Benny is still dancing, ducking and weaving. He is playing shy. He says “you go first…” LOL. He still refuses to condemn the “thinking” of those specific Palestinian Arabs who murder Jewish civilians randomly…

            I’ll tell ya what I’ll do for ya. I condemn the attackers who murdered members of the Dawabshe family. That was a senseless unconcionable murder. The rest of the attacks that you mention? I don’t condone either but I do understand because your Palestinian Arabs are murdering Jewish Israelis. And this is NOT a new phenomenon which emanate from the occupation. I know because it is the other way around. The occupation is the RESULT of a 100 years of VIOLENCE by Palestinian Arabs agaainst PALESTINIAN JEWS who became Jewish Israelis after 1948.

            Do you get that concept Benny? First there was Palestinian violence that begot occupation and after more Palestinian violence, SOME Jews are also becoming violent.

            Now will you condemn the thinking and actions of those Palestinian Arabs who have been murdering any Jew (Israeli or not) who they can get their hot little hands on?

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          • Gustav

            Benny will now just skulk off and revive his whining about the occupation and about how eeeeeevil we Israelis are. Rinse, mix, stir and repeat ad nausam. But he will do anything to avoid condemning ANYTHING the Palestinian Arabs do.

            Our Benny is un emarassable. He has no shame.

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          • Ben

            I condemn all the crimes on both sides, Palestinian and Israeli. That’s why I want to end the occupation. But I don’t equate occupier and occupied. “I don’t condone but I do understand.” The occupation in a nutshell. And most people on the other side might say the same thing about the stabbing attacks. “I don’t condone but I do understand.” Tell me Gustav, what in principle is different about the two kinds of attacks? What differentiates them in your mind? Other than the kind of lazy differentiation Israelis assume out of an ingrained habit of narcissistic entitlement and racism? Now we’re getting down to brass tacks. Please explain yourself.

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          • Gustav

            What is different? NOTHING!

            Yet there is an issue which you ALWAYS ignore. CAUSE AND EFFECT!

            Here let me remind you. Your Palestinian Arabs were the first to resort to violence, nearly 100 years ago.

            Palestinian Arab violence begot the occupation. That in turn serves as their excuse for MORE violence. And some ordinary Israelis now resort to what in my opinion is senseless violence too.

            Then along come polemicists like you and you constantly point the finger ONLY at US. Look how long it took me to get you to grudgingly condemn senseless random Palestinian knifing attacks. It was like pulling a tooth out of you. But I am the narcissist?

            You have no shame Benny. And you conflate cause and effect.

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          • Ben

            There is an endless chain or cycle of causation. (And it did not start with the Palestinian side nearly as neatly as you tell yourself in an endless chant. Your own historians have shown that.) But I don’t confuse the occupier with the occupied. Israel has all the power, the Palestinians none. Israel could end the occupation, the “war,” the whole “situation,” tomorrow, if it wanted to. It does not want to. It toys with the Palestinians. Ruthlessly, grotesquely. It’s called cynically managing the conflict. (Likewise it cynically manages its “ally” Uncle Sam, but that’s another story.) The Palestinians for the Israeli high command are like lab rats in a cage to be experimented on for effective pest control. One might consider the USA something like the NIH funder of the research. And the lobby process the grant application cycle, endlessly renewed in a rubber stamp process devoid of actual peer review. It’s sick. It’s criminal.

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    2. Ben

      “Israel is perpetrating horrors in the territories at a frequency and degree never seen before. Not that most Israelis seem to care.
      http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.683421
      “…The stones or stabbings that could justify such crimes have not yet been created – and are greeted with a shrug of the shoulder by the Israeli public. Its exposure to the behavior of its soldiers and police officers is always mediated by the Israeli media, which can be counted upon to blur, polish and hide as much as possible. But social media sites spit out the images, horror after horror….”

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      • Hercules

        Oy…Ben just just cut, cpied and pasted the political opinion of a political pundit that contain nothing but polemics and diatribes. Because the diatribe is published in Haaretz, Ben thinks that’s the bible-truth. Wao, Ben is very, very smart.

        So, Ben, can you tell us what “horrors” Israel is committing, or are you content with you copy-and-paste-job?

        Thanks in advance.

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        • Gustav

          Yep, there is causation but not endless. The fact is that your daaarlink Palestinian Arabs started the violence against us nearly 100 years ago. That is an indisputable historical fact.

          Could we end the occupation unilaterally? Of course we could. But would it make sense?

          Yea, it would make as much sense as it did when we ended the occupation in Gaza.

          Some of our brothers had to be bodily dragged away from their homes. They were kicking, screaming and cursing us as we dragged them away by force.

          And what did we get for it? Lies and more abuse from people like youse, Benny. And more rockets from Hamas.

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