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IMAGE: Israeli night raids resume in Nabi Saleh

The embattled village of Nabi Saleh saw a resumption of night raids last night. The house of imprisoned popular committee leader Bassem Tamimi was raided by Israeli soldiers at 02:00 this morning, according to Palestinian activist @Tweet_Palestine on Twitter. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.

Night raid in Nabi Saleh 24 November 2011.

Night raid in Nabi Saleh 24 November 2011.

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    1. Elan Miller

      Oh the poor boy. He looks absolutely petrified. See – the despicable soldiers are pointing their guns at him! And how disgusting that they made him sleep downstairs. Ooh, the indecency of it all!

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    2. Jan

      Elan, I wonder if you would sing a different tune if it was an Israeli kid sleeping and an alien force raided his home.

      I am also sick of those who prate that Palesitnians teach their kids hatred of Israel and Jews. I don’t think that this kid has any good reason not to hate Israel and Jews. When those who raid his home wear the Star of David on their uniforms this kid has as much right to hate them as we hated the Germans.

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    3. Iris

      Mr. Elan Miller’s defensive, snarky tone makes people who supported the creation of Israel all those years ago regret their support. The newly- arrived Jewish invaders became the oppressors. Why did we think that would not happen? No child anywhere in the world should have to wake up to such a situation.

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    4. Elan Miller

      Jan, what do you mean that you are sick of those who say that the Palestinians teach their kids to hate? Do you deny the existence of incitement to violence on Palestinian national television and school books?

      Incidentally, nice one of breaking Godwin’s Law. For all the talk of righties exploiting the Shoah, isn’t the double-standard shocking? for crying out loud, explain yourself logically. There’s no need to resort to pathetic emotional torts.

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    5. Jan

      Elan, I suggest that you take a look at the racism that infects much of Israeli society. Take a look at the Israeli text books that treat the Palestinians as almost a non entity or as terrorists.

      You may well be a product of the Israeli school system. How many of your textbooks called for an end to the occupaiton and for human rights for ALL people not just for Jews.

      I suggest that you read this article regarding a new book by Israeli researcher Nurit Peled-Elhanan who found that Israeli school books never depict Palestinians as normal people but rather as terrorists and certainly less civilized than Israelis. This, she says, lets the students believe that when they enter the IDF it is no problem killing or even harrassing an Arab (Israeli school books never use the name Palestinian.)

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/07/israeli-school-racism-claim

      Elan, what I am saying is that the IDF is the greatest instructor for hatred against Israel. No one needs to tell these kids what has happened to them or to their famillies. They have the truth in front of them.

      I suggest that you go live in the OT for a while, not as a settler, but as an observer. Work with B’Tselem or other groups that know what Israel is doing. You might change your tune – but then depending on your mind set you may not and you might think that terroizing kids in the middle of the night is just fine.

      No time to continue this. It is Thanksgiving Day here and I have things to do.

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    6. Danny

      A picture that says a thousand words. I look at these soldiers, wearing their ski masks and brandishing their American-made weapons, and I think to myself that Israel itself is untenable. Unlike the little boy, the two soldiers are petrified. The little boy knows his cause his just; the two soldiers, looking like bank robbers, know the opposite. Powerful photo.

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    7. Joshie Boy

      How unfortunate for all, that you must look to these pictures, to fuel your hatred. Since facts are inconvenient, you must use scarce pictures, that are more often than not doctored, and even when accurate, not photo-shopped, or otherwise misleading, are major EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE, to “prove” that Israelis are occupying aggressors.

      Sad. Seriously. By using these, you are doing nothing. Israel won’t change because of these, nor will TRUE HUMAN RIGHTS LEADERS around the world (I refer to people in the USA and the free world who actually care about human rights; not UNHRC orpoliticized NGOs).

      Kudos to the IDF for keeping Israel safe from her enemies.

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    8. Sarah

      I would appreciate knowing who took this photograph and who submitted it to the press in time for next-day publication.

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      • Sarah, the photo was taken by someone close to the family who was staying in the house. It was not ‘submitted to the press’; it was tweeted. You’re welcome.

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    9. Sarah

      Thanks. Thought it was a photo-journalist. Who is the tweeter I wonder.

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    10. SAM

      It’s easy to look at a picture in a vacuum and think that you know the full story. Leaving aside the likelihood that a photo like this was doctored and released as anti-Israel propaganda (as often happens), you need to think of the context that this photo takes place in. Israeli citizens (men, women and CHILDREN) live under rocket fire every day, in fear that they will be the next victims of indiscriminate hate and violence inflected upon them by the Palestinians. Israel, at a great risk to the safety and security of its soldiers, does individual house to house searches for terrorists and weapons, so as not to kill innocent people while trying to protect their own civilians. Kudos to Israel for having one of the most humane armies in the world.

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    11. Sam, you are deluded.

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    12. Sam and Joshie Boy – seriously, did you come to this site of your own free will, or were you encouraged or hired by Misrad HaHutz? The reason I ask is you both mention the same talking point (“photo doctored”).

      I for one am a “leftist” who STILL believes that maybe, maybe, there is time for a stable, secure 2-state solution. But the problem is Bibi throws the possibilities of that in the trash, because he dreams of a Greater Israel. What about you? And what will happen with the 2 million Palestinians living in the West Bank? Do you know that eventually they will INSIST on full rights as Israelis? So Greater Israel leads eventually to a 1-STATE SOLUTION. With all your hasbara, what’s your vision of the future????

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    13. berl

      Sam, your excuse is so basic that does not deserve an answer. It is not a matter of being right or left wing. It is a matter of decency.

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    14. This photo was taken by Nariman Tamimi, one of the directors of the Betselem video project in Nabi Saleh. It was tweeted early yesterday morning by a number of Palestinians in Ramallah.

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    15. Joshie Boy

      Harvey, I was not “recruited” by anyone. I came on my own free volition. (I concept not accepted in “Palestine,” for the record.)

      What does this have to do with the 2-state solution? Perhaps I too, am a fan. Where do you see Bibi in this picture?

      I didn’t even say the picture was doctored; I said more often than not these are doctored. Even if it isn’t, it’s still an exception to the rule, and not the rule itself. It’s not the same as proudly firing rockets, indiscriminately, at civilians, or throwing stones and molotov cocktails at civilians, or breaking into someone’s house at 2 in the morning and butchering the family including babies.

      For the record, you mention the 2-state solution. The Palis aren’t interested in that. The PA signed a unity deal with Hamas who unabashedly wants the 1-state solution; you know, the one with only Palestine and all Jews killed, Nazi-style. Read their charter or listen to what they say, proudly, if you don’t believe my “deluded thoughts.”

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    16. Berl

      JOSHIE BOY,
      you are wrong, it is the rule, not the exception. “Nazi-style” is a concept good for all the seasons in order to silent the reality. I suggest you to use also “antisemitism”: it works quite well.
      About civilians: in the last 15 years the numbers of palestinians civilians killed by the Tshal, i.e. the recognized army of a State, has been 8 times higher than the number of Israeli civilians killed by Palestinian terrorists.
      Basic/selective thoughts, not deluded ones.

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    17. Sarah

      Berl – there is never an excuse for using rocket fire against civilians. Never. “They made me do it” excuse only cheapens your sentiment further. The Palestinian death toll must be seen in the context of their “first strike” violence.
      If I go up to somebody on the street and smack them in the face, and the response is that they respond with force 10-fold, do I have a right to complain? No.
      Joseph Dana notes that this photo was taken by Nariman Tamimi. She is Bassem’s wife. They boy tucked under the blanket is one of her sons. Why omit these facts?

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    18. Berl

      Sarah,
      You are right. Context is essential.
      1) The starting point is not the use of rocket fire, but instead al-jura, najd and majdal (todays Sderot, Or-Ha-Ner, Ashkelon): the cities from which thousands of people were driven out, also through the use of dozens of buses kindly provided by the israeli forces, to the gaza strip.
      The big majority of the population of gaza is composed by refugees directly linked to these kind “episodes”.
      This does not justify the use of rockets, but it helps a lot in order to understand the context about which the both of us care so much.

      2) For that rockets less than 15 Israelis have been killed. Of course it is shameful. But only in the gaza strip, in the last decade have been killed about 2000 civilians, most of them under the age of 18. Your “smack face” theory is a little bit weak in light of these numbers. Or not?

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    19. Edithann

      This comment has been edited.

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      @ Sarah…”If I go up to somebody on the street and smack them in the face, and the response is that they respond with force 10-fold, do I have a right to complain?”

      No one is saying you shouldn’t defend yourself, but if you kill him or cripple him for life as a result of your 10 fold response, then you are held responsible. It’s called ‘disproportionate response’ and that’s what ‘war crimes’ are all about.
      You’re 10 fold response and collective punishment just reeks of inhumanity. Are you prepared to behave like that forever?

      TATA

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    20. Sarah

      Question to EDITHANN: If I announce that I hate a certain person and wish to wipe him off of the face of this earth and follow my assertions by committing physical assault with the intent to harm, what kind of response from my victim would constitute “proportionate”?
      Let’s say my assault consists of verbal threats followed by striking this person in the head with a 1.5 pound chunk of concrete.

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    21. hakarathadadit

      If we pick up sentences from many of the Kahane’s heirs that seat in the Knesset it is difficult to say who between them and Hamas representatives is more extremist and who wants more to wipe off the other (btw, since 2006 the founding charter of Hamas was never used in their political programs and khaled meshaal himself declared that the charter is “a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons”). Hamas is a great calamity for the Palestinian people, a calamity that the “other side” helped to create and flourish.

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    22. Sarah

      I disagree Berl,
      Israel did not drive out the Palestinians and take their land. In 1948, many Arabs left because their own megalomaniac sheiks along with the Grand Mufti demanded it. The thousands of Arabs who could think for themselves and chose to switch allegiance from British rule to Israeli civic government have not been driven out. They are represented by 14 Arab-Israelis in the Knesset, and an overwhelming majority of Israeli-Arabs have stated they will strive to remain in Israel if a 2-state solution is ever forged.
      As for the disputable death count from Gaza terrorist rockets, how many civilians on the Israeli side would have to die for concern to be raised? Palestinian terrorist/military activity is no joke Berl, and the civilian death toll from their rocket fire includes Israelis, Palestinians and resident guest workers from places like Thailand.
      When Gaza’s terrorists step up their rocket campaign at innocent people in Israel, the IDF responds overwhelmingly. When Gaza’s terrorists take a break however, there is no action from the IDF. See how that works? Most reasonable people can summarize the cause and effect action here. Even the UN Security Counsel agrees that the “siege” on Gaza was a direct result of terrorist activity from within the region.

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    23. Sarah

      to HAKARATHADADIT:
      Hamas is a great calamity for the Palestinian people and for the world. This fascist terrorist organization was not helped into being by the “other side”.
      Palestinians elected Hamas.
      Palestinians are responsible for their own choices. They have only themselves to blame.

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    24. Edithann

      @Sarah: lets say no one has the right to strike another without cause. That’s the premise we ‘all’ live by on the planet.
      You don’t teach children to ‘hit’ unless it’s to defend themselves. Which means you don’t strike first, even if the playmate looks at them funny or even calls them names.

      That family posed no threat to Israel..They are already occupied, which means they could be arrested anytime..so why at night, why traumatize the family? Is Israel so frightened they have to act like Nazis?

      Israel threatens Iran all the time, does that mean they have a ‘right’ to strike with impunity? We (US) destroyed Iraq looking for WMD’s where there were non? We killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. I know they were Arabs and they don’t count, but they do!
      It was all illegal and we will be up on war crimes once Iraq gets their act together..It’s been a 10 year stall to convince the Iraqi’s not to press charges, but I’m sure they will and they should!!
      Israel will be up for the same crimes over Gaza and Goldstone wont save them either.

      Hamas has already stated they would recognize Israel, however, Likud stated they would not give up any land..So where are you Sarah?
      Do you think preemptively striking everything everywhere is the answer?

      Never forget, you chose that part of the Middle East neighborhood. You have no right to blame anyone else for your poor choice. Palestinians never ‘gave’ you their lands which means you can’t demand anything of them!!

      TATA

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    25. Sarah

      Hamas has already stated they would recognize Israel? Well, either they WILL or they WON’T.
      There’s no room for ‘would.’ As for Likud not giving any land – uh they gave ALL OF GAZA over in 2005, and look what the Palestinians have done!
      “You don’t teach children to ‘hit’ unless it’s to defend themselves. Which means you don’t strike first, even if the playmate looks at them funny or even calls them names” – Yes, and when Palestinians abide by this ethos, they will achieve peace. They are the presumptive strikers.
      The Red Cross has re-stated its position on Gaza. There is no crisis. There is no shortage of food or water or goods. In fact the #1 health threat in Gaza is obesity. The West Bank is gaining weight too. Maybe the members of Hamas, Hezbollah, The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, and Fatah will soon be too fat to kill innocents.
      Please no more Croc-tears EdithAnn.

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    26. directrob

      Gee, this is about soldiers in battle dress going after sleeping children in the middle of the night and … taking pictures. Even a gazillion words cannot make it kosher.

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    27. Sarah

      But DIRECTROB
      The soldiers in this photo are wearing the kind of “battle dress” expected of soldiers in many countries. They reason why you seem to be overwhelmed by their gear is anyone’s guess.

      Furthermore, Bassem Tamimi is in Israeli custody due to testimony provided by 14-year-old Islam Salah Dar Ayoub Tamimi. Islam Salah told police that Bassem incites young people in the village to do violence. We can debate whether the testimony has merit, but we cannot pretend these soldiers showed up for unknown reasons. The prosecuting attorney in Bassem’s case is Captain Michael Avitan, and the case number is #2058/11.

      I wish Joseph Dana would do some real journalism so I wouldn’t have to.

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    28. Gill

      Sarah – well said. Whilst I feel heartsore for that child – I have more concern for the children in Israel, who can’t walk outside without almost EXPECTING a piece of metal to fall out of the sky on them.
      The Palestinians deserve a good life. That will happen when murderous HAMAS who tear bodies limb from limb to demonstrate their blood lust are finally voted OUT!

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    29. Bosko

      EdithAnn
      “You’re 10 fold response and collective punishment just reeks of inhumanity. Are you prepared to behave like that forever?”
      .
      EdithAnn the racist has come here to teach us about morality. This is what she said on another thread …
      .
      “That’s because Judaism has left you with so few options. It’s difficult when you’ve been religiously genetically modified, to exclude the most basic emotions of ‘empathy’ and ‘compassion’”
      .
      http://972mag.com/watch-alternative-jewish-interpretations-of-hebron/27979/
      .
      Substitute the word “Islam” instead of the word “Judaism” and let’s get the reaction from the usual critics of Israel. Would that be racist? Of course it WOULD BE. So why is talking about Judaism in the same way not racist, at least according to the EdithAnns of this world?

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    30. directrob

      “We can debate the testimony has merit” … priceless. So you do know what is wrong about this case.

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    31. Sarah

      Yes DIRECTROB, I know what might be wrong about this case. Thanks.

      Bassem Tamimi and his wife are very popular figures with a lot of sway; Rarely does anybody in the village question their authority. What if the young Islam Salah Dar Ayoub Tamimi is telling the truth? He’s been arrested for rock-throwing several times. What if he was following a tacit order from Bassem to throw rocks?

      And now, what if he is staying in police custody as a protective move? If he’s telling the truth, releasing him from custody might amount to signing his death warrant. Perhaps this kid is a noble whistle-blower.

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    32. Sarah

      DIRECTROB, you ignored my reasonably-presented ideas and responded with no real words of your own, but thanks for pasting an August 2011 article by Catrina Stewart. Your non-response stinks of insincerity as does Catrina Stewart’s schmootzy-woo-woo dramatic fictionalized account of Islam Salah Tamimi’s police interrogation. Given this example as one of her typical sentences, “This rarely SEEN footage SEEN by The Independent offers a … ” it’s clear that Stewart needs a better editor. Or if a better editor cannot be found, maybe somebody can volunteer to help Stewart develop her own voice, because most of this article sounds like it was lifted right out of observational reports filed by Hagit Shlonsky.
      Shlonsky and others cover the actual courtroom proceedings in this case. The video that gave writer Catrina Stewart a hizzy was shown in open court on 3/21/2011. Islam Salah Tamimi was present and also watched the taped evidence that supposedly shows him incriminating his uncle Bassem and others. So anyway DIRECTROB, I hope it matters to you that this tape is not a secret thing after all.

      Know what else is no secret? The Islamic School of Jurisprudence used in PA controlled areas of the West Bank PA. If this 14-year old’s house arrest does end, I’ll bet you his loving family makes sure he’s next in line for the suicide bomber suit.

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    33. Berl

      Sarah,
      “Israel did not drive out the Palestinians and take their land. In 1948, many Arabs left because their own megalomaniac sheiks along with the Grand Mufti demanded it”:
      this is basic propaganda that does not explain what I have written. Please document yourself. It’s enough to go online and search for what happened in Najd on 13 May 1948. I tell you this because if you are so full of propaganda I really don’t have time to lose. I like to discuss with open people that know what they are talking about.
      It’s not a matter of what you wish, or what you would like, or if you disagree or not. There are facts that you simply ignore, as for example the facts about najd, al-jura and majdal. Get out from you “bubble”: not because you dislike Israel, but exactly because you, as me, love this country and don’t want to build our legitimate rights on lies.
      PS “the civilian death toll from their rocket fire includes Israelis, Palestinians and resident guest workers from places like”: yes, and it comprises 15 persons (among them israelis, palestinian and foreign workers). More than 2,000 have been killed on the other side.

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    34. Berl

      PS
      “The thousands of Arabs who could think for themselves and chose to switch allegiance from British rule to Israeli civic government have not been driven out”:
      please study also the history of the “Internally Displaced Palestinians” because, once again, it’s not a matter of what you wish that did happen or if you agree or disagree.
      Start from what happened in Malka (Jerusalem).

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    35. directrob

      Sarah,
      “ignored my reasonably-presented ideas” I saw and see none.
      .
      You use weasel words like “perhaps”, “might”, “if”, “supposedly”, “i’ll bet”, “maybe” and still manage to outright lie about protective custody.
      .
      As for these actions see: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/crc.htm “Convention on the Rights of the Child”.
      .
      Article 3.1: In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.

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    36. Lightbringer

      “Article 3.1: In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.”

      And who exactly defines what is the best interest of the child?

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    37. Edithann

      Sarah..you’re arguments don’t float and seem to embody all the early propaganda rhetoric of Golda..Next you’ll be telling us there are no such people as Palestinians and those people in the picture were all actors.

      Just the reasoning behind the raid is beyond belief. Yet you’ve run with it unashamedly.

      Sarah:” Hamas has already stated they would recognize Israel? Well, either they WILL or they WON’T”

      So the child must ‘hit’ the playmate first with overwhelming force just in case? Are you serious? Oh, I know, you’re superior, and ‘others’ are chopped liver and expendable!

      So far Israel has continually hit back harder. So what has it accomplished for Israel except given them excuses to steal more Palestinian land.
      Get their land, blame them and at the same time keep them from resisting and developing leaders.
      It’s as masterful a plan the Zionists used to get the UN to sign off on an Israel in ’48 which plunged the world into non stop chaos we’ve experienced ever since.

      Giving up Gaza was giving ‘back’ Gaza. Your reasoning is very faulty on so many levels. There isn’t anything that Israel has a ‘right’ to beyond the UN’s ’48 borders so far, and that question will be debated again at the UN soon also.

      Now run along with your Fascist diatribes and bags of excuses with no justifications and certainly no proof, and start thinking seriously about the lies you tell.
      I can’t imagine in this day and age, anyone justifying what Israel has done and is doing unless they’re being paid.
      Do you really think Israel can survive and prosper on a bedrock of lies, thefts, murders and barbarism in this Internet age?

      TATA

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    38. Edithann

      Edithann
      Friday,
      November 25, 2011
      10:24 am
      This comment has been edited.

      I wonder what it was that was so offensive it had to be removed?
      Are the readers here on #972 so young and impressionable they’re considered easily suggestible?

      There are more views to problem solving and I would think no views should ever be excluded, no matter how painful they may be to accept.
      How else could all those Jewish Nobel Prize winners have made their contributions without input from even those they disagreed?

      This is my ‘Independent commentary to those Independent reporters from Israel and the Palestinian territories’.

      TATA

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    39. Bosko

      EdithAnn
      You are the liar and you are the racist. But why am I telling you that? You already know that yourself. Now run along dearie and play in the traffic.

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    40. Ben

      Sarah, don’t play the victim – nobody in the world actually buys that anymore. Rather, our governments support Israel because it’s a useful proxy.

      Your prime minister celebrated the bombing of the King David Hotel in which 91 innocents were killed. That is just one among thousands of examples of how your society is rife with violence and vengeance. May the Palestinians find the strength to endure your incursion…

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    41. Sarah

      BEN – don’t play the cynic. Nobody in the world buys that anymore. Your false cynicism serves your own agenda. The 1946 King David Hotel bombing was an inexcusable violent act resulting from tensions between Hagana and the British. However, it is a minor blip on the screen if within the context of the countless Palestinian terrorist actions. Even now as I type, Gaza terrorists are launching rockets and mortar shells at civilians in southern Israel. Please don’t waste everybody’s time by coming up with pathetic non-reasons how Israel is provoking this.

      EDITHANN – take your meds.

      DIRECTROB – I use words like ‘if’ and ‘maybe’ because I don’t want to draw conclusions without proof. I don’t buy into the phantom victimology of Palestinian “present absentees.” The people who live in Umm al-Fahm aren’t displaced. They aren’t some kind of pathetic loser population – stop ruining their dignity with bad descriptors please.

      LIGHTBRINGER; And who exactly defines what is the best interest of the child? The social workers and psychologists on staff along with the minor in custody who, yes, also has a say in the proceedings.

      BERL – In December of 1947 Abdel Rahman Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the Arab League urged Arabs to rise up and kill Jews and anybody that tried to defend them. This is a FACT. From Egypt, Azzam said over the radio, “We know our enemies. We will go to them. We will fight with them in regular armed struggle. You will get arms – an abundance of them.” Many Arabs in Jerusalem and areas outside Tel Aviv obeyed and the world watched as they engaged in a week of stabbing, shooting and looting. Why? Why would the Arabs do this? Because the British announced plans to leave by August and the UN was moving to vote on a Jewish/Palestinian two-state plan for the area. They didn’t want self-governance with Jews as their neighbors then, and they don’t seem to want it now.

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    42. directrob

      Sarah,
      “I use words like ‘if’ and ‘maybe’ because I don’t want to draw conclusions without proof”
      .
      Actually you did want to draw conclusions without proof and quite viciously so (“I’ll bet you his loving family makes sure he’s next in line for the suicide bomber suit”) Where is Ami when you need him.
      .
      Now out of the blue you attack me about something I did not write about (internal displacement). As it is off topic I’ll let it be.

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    43. Sarah

      DIRECTBOB – It’s called satire. I bet you’re the life of the party, eh? Quit whining. Please.

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    44. Edithann

      @ Sarah..EDITHANN – take your meds.

      So you are 12 years old after all.

      Your defense of the IDF and resulting court proceedings was just stunning!!
      I’m appalled that the word of a 14 year old Palestinian juvenile, ‘in custody’ by the IDF for throwing stones, is a good enough reason to raid his uncle’s home and traumatize not only his family, but his uncle’s.. Are you serious? Do you expect anyone to believe that BS?
      The trauma that 14 year old experienced was bad enough, but to use him to traumatize his extended family is unpardonable, unforgivable and thoroughly expected and especially enjoyed by the sadistic Nazi barbarism of the Israeli people, like yourself! And then to say he’ll be a suicide bomber is so over the top I can’t even express how loathsome you are.

      It’s obvious you all must and should be on medications, as no other people claiming to be Westernized are like you all ‘thank God’!

      Please look up the word ‘Insanity’ and see how close you are to it’s definition.

      TATA

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    45. Bosko

      ROFL, the pot calling the kettle black. EdithAnn, a Nazi, calling others Nazis. It’s known as projecting from the self, dearie.

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    46. AYLA

      this is one of the most toxic threads I’ve seen on this site. I can only imagine that Lisa Goldman and Harvey Stein bowed out because if they stuck around listening to so much uneducated garbage, they might lose faith in the important work they do.

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    47. AYLA

      p.s. I can’t possibly be speaking to each and every comment or commenter, because I could not stomach reading them all. I read enough.

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    48. Edithann

      @ Ayla..
      You’re right it’s all toxic..The subject is toxic, the pictures are toxic, the raids are toxic, stealing land is toxic and Israel is toxic..So now where do we go from here?

      Why not make suggestions, or at least look for causes instead of whining about how bad things are..
      I’ve stated my opinions, why not state yours?
      Opinions of facts that is, not personal opinions please..think you can do that?

      TATA

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    49. @Sam You wrote “Israel, at a great risk to the safety and security of its soldiers, does individual house to house searches for terrorists and weapons, so as not to kill innocent people while trying to protect their own civilians. Kudos to Israel for having one of the most humane armies in the world.”
      This is ridiculous. There is only one sort of nations which do nightly searches and arrest. Democracies which are worth beeing labeled this way do their searches by police and during the day. To break into houses in the middle of the night is always tantamount to terrorise people – deliberately.

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