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How long must Palestinians pay for the Holocaust? [op-ed]

A man leading an occupying state, a racist state in which mixed marriages are protested, doesn’t get to teach lessons to others. Mr. Netanyahu, stop exploiting the Holocaust at every political opportunity; pick up a book and learn that we weren’t there in those darkest days of European and Jewish history.

On the eve of a historical day for the Palestinian people, when the international community has finally figured out that there is no point in waiting for Israelis to recognize their neighbors’ right to independence, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu chose to preach to the Europeans  – to teach them a lesson he himself has yet to learn.

And he is right. There really are people who have not learned a thing; not in Europe, but right here in Israel.

The time has come to put everything on the table and talk about the Palestinians and the Holocaust.

For years we have been keeping our heads down and avoided facing the issue. We were careful never to shout “Nazis” in protests against the occupation, against house demolitions, and on Land Day, when we speak up and resist the oppression and racism against Arabs in Israel. We are forbidden from even approaching that sensitive Jewish wound, the ultimate political trump card. We the Arabs were and still are vulnerable, weak, defeated, and yes – scared we would be blamed for taking part in or even for identifying with the horrors that took place in Europe.

But khalas. Enough. No more. I am no longer willing to carry the burden of the Great Sin on my shoulders. It is no longer possible to punish us in every way possible for nearly 70 years and then hide behind the black curtain of European Jewish history.

The prime minister of a state where rampant racism is raising its head in every corner —under the government’s patronage — has no right to preach to others. When in every city conquered in 1948 – Lydd, Acre, Jaffa – there is a neighborhood called “the ghetto,” meaning the old city where the Palestinian residents were kept and enclosed, you Mr. Prime Minister cannot speak of learning lessons.

In a state where every bill produced in your racist breeding ground reeks of hatred and fear mongering toward “the Arabs” – you don’t get to preach about learning lessons. When thousands of Palestinians begin their days at 2.30 a.m., turning into a single mass of human flesh pushed as one through a metallic sleeve at the end of which stands a soldier, only in order to earn a day’s wages and return home via the same route in the evening, don’t talk about learning lessons.

When in a single month you murdered thousands of innocent Palestinians, you must know that Umm-Muhammad from Gaza, whose four sons were murdered on the beach, does not believe you have learned your lesson. In a country where schools in which Arab and Jewish children study together are set ablaze, in a place where hooligans protest against the marriage of an Arab man and a Jewish woman, no lesson has been learned.

Stop taking every opportunity to wave the flag of Holocaust horrors at every turn of your political career. Go open up the history books and learn that we were not present in Europe at the time and took no part in any anti-Semitic plan. A million and a half Gazans imprisoned for nine years will not create another Holocaust against you or your people, even if Article 6 of the Hamas Charter calls for the annihilation of the Jewish state. Neither will Iran when your democratic state is the only nuclear power in the Middle East.

I expect nothing more of you, Mr. Prime Minister. I am relying on the people who will learn the lessons and choose to reroute the train heading full-speed toward oblivion. Such a shift may be bold and terrifying, but it is the only option left.

Samah Salaime Egbariya is a social worker, a director of AWC (Arab Women in the Center) in Lod and a graduate of the Mandel Leadership Institute in Jerusalem. This article was first published on +972′s Hebrew-language sister site, Local Call. Read it in Hebrew here.

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    1. Richard

      The circus of horrors continues… Hamas a terroristic organization elected to lead a terroristic union of Arab refugee’s whom the UN is preparing to recognize as a nation and whom the EU has now stated are no longer considered a terrorist entity. Today the same after launching rocket attacks during it’s “non terroristic-yet repeatedly broken” cease fire agreement with Israel state that they will retaliate against Israel for striking back against them!?!?!?!? You see they are obviously upset that their terroristic rocket attacks failed and that Israel successfully struck back against them. Today it’s just simply put “dizzyingly” amazing that the world by and large is taking the side of this terroristic and vile creature called Hamas. Israel does little more than maintain their national borders and protect their citizens while hoards of Islamic radical terrorists attack them by acts of terror during cease fires. There are many reasons people give for supporting these various entities but in my view point it all boils down to one thing. Man kinds sinfulness and it’s rejection of the God of the Bible. I believe we are living in the end times period that the Bible describes. I wrote a small book about the end times and prophecy and the tribulation period. It’s just for your information and consideration and it’s free. I don’t even accept donations on my or anyone else’s behalf. It’s a short read of about 7 pages. I encourage you to take a look. http://www.booksie.com/religion_and_spirituality/book/richard_b_barnes/after-the-rapture-whats-next

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      • hiba

        You just used terroristic 7 times in a paragraph and its not even a word and, you wrote a book?

        congrats..

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      • Weiss

        A circus of horrors incubated and nurtured by the Right-Wing Brown-Shirt Fascists that are destroying Israel FROM WITHIN…

        And yet ANOTHER reason why I am ASHAMED to be Jewish

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        • GilGamesh

          So Christians posting about the end times and the rapture make you ashamed to be Jewish? I’m ashamed you’re Jewish as well.

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      • Brian

        Idiotic spammer.

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        • Merav

          bryan/brian

          ….not stalking Ginger today, bryan? # anywaaays, briyan, which one are you: bryan or brian? aaahh, bryan and brian…..LOL….ehhh.. brIan an’ brYan make the briyan with personality disorder….hilarious…!!!

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          • Weiss

            Grow up.

            I hope you are not Jewish, because if you are please stop before you embarrass the rest of the us moderate Jews.

            This is nOT a game.

            And it will end badly for the extremists if they don’t get with the program.

            The current status-quo is simply unsustainable…PERIOD.

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          • Merav

            Idiotic spammer.

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    2. Anna Ruiz

      Richard, I ask YOU the question, how long are Palestinians supposed to pay for the Holocaust. And how long are Zionists like you going to lie in order to perpetuate your myths, and perpetrate Zionist atrocities on Palestinians?

      Don’t bother to answer. As long as you and Israel can get with it. It’s worked for nearly 7 decades, right?

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    3. Stephanie De-Sykes

      Richard, either you learned nothing either from reading that extraordinary article or you didn’t read it at all. Israel has been breaking the ceasefire constantly for the past 100 days and no-one from Palestine has claimed responsibility for the alleged rocket fired at Israel. With the whole world gradually voting for self-determination for Palestine it would be madness and self-defeating for Hamas to start firing rockets. Israel would be the only beneficiaries of that. THINK ABOUT IT!!

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    4. Mikesailor

      Bibi and the rest of the Zionist believe that the Holocaust is the “gift that jeeps on giving”. Remember that Zionism began in Western Europe afer Jews were emancipated. The most interesting fact is that post-emancipation, the Euroopean Jews, now freed of most discrimination including ghettoization, began to fear assimilaton more than anything else. After all, what does the “Jewish” community offer to a people now freed from the “necessity” of only living or dealing with other Jews? Which is why Dreyfuss was seen as such a godsend by Herzl. It gave an excuse for a Jewish community to reinforce their xenophobic world view and fear the outside world. When the French (not just Jews)came to the defense of Dreyfuss, and the French Jews refused to embrace Zionism, Herzl referred to them as lost (the precursor to today’s term of “self-hating Jew”). With the promise to the Brits of enlisting the assistance of American Jews and their media to come into WWI on the side of the Allies, that insane promise of land to the Zionists (land belonging to an indigenous population who had no voice in this “imperial” gift to foreign interlopers. Much like the Irish centuries earlier) known as the Balfour Declaration was issued. Unfortunately, after the war, the Zionist complicity was exposed and the ensuing backlash helped lead to the Holocaust. Now if Bibi and the Zionists wish to blame all of Europe and the Palestinians for the Holocaust, they are pathetic liars by ignoring the Jewish complicity in this whole mess. And the Palestinians are truly the victims and have been so since Balfour came about.

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    5. Stop taking every opportunity to wave the flag of Holocaust horrors at every turn of your political career. Go open up the history books and learn that we were not present in Europe at the time and took no part in any anti-Semitic plan. A million and a half Gazans imprisoned for nine years will not create another Holocaust against you or your people, even if Article 6 of the Hamas Charter calls for the annihilation of the Jewish state. Neither will Iran when your democratic state is the only nuclear power in the Middle East.

      Well said Samah Salaime Egbariya.

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    6. Victor Arajs

      I am sick and tired of hearing about the holocaust. it is ancient history. We need to hear more about the NAQBA, which was a far greater crime than the holocaust

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      • Baladi Akka 1948

        My guess is he’s a Zionist infiltrator. Years back this site was full of Zionist extremists who came here from another site (‘Israel-something’ now closed down) after someone asked for help to ‘overflow’ 972mag. The leader of the team, some convert from the US, encouraged the others to take Arab pen names and to post antisemitic comments.
        Of course “Victor-Thing” isn’t an Arab, he can’t even transcribe “Nakba” whose second radical is a “K” and not “Q”

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        • Brian

          Baladi I agree he’s probably a false flag operator. He wonderfully perverts Egbariya’s nuanced and non-anti-Semitic message into a red cape that the right winger bulls here will love to charge at and of course divert the audience. In fact Arajs so nicely derails us into precisely the congealed falsities Bibi is peddling and Egbariya plaintively illuminates and differentiates that I would not be surprised if it were Bibi himself! Ha!

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          • Merav

            bryan / brian

            which one are you…. brian or bryan? # aaaah brIan and brYan: the SAME canine with two heads….. hilarious! #… keep fooling yourself briyan …… LOL…..what a fool……

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        • Baladi Akka 1948

          You, a racist thug, just concluded that this neo-Nazi troll was probably an Arab, and now you want to thank me….
          Kool khara !

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          • Victor Arajs

            I am just the conscience of 972 mag, stating what we are all thinking but afraid to say. Although, it seems that Mikesailor is getting his courage up

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          • Baladi Akka 1948

            “You’re naive blahblah”
            “My guess is he’s a Zionist infiltrator” was a response to your “My guess is that you’re an Arab”
            This guy has been along here a long time under different pen names, and he’s clearly not an Arab, only racist thugs like you would think so.

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          • Brian

            Congratulations on so clearly laying out the true nature of the slug. You pinned it and laid it out as on a dissecting board. Perfect. It illuminates much else besides.

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    7. Maya

      @ Roanna Jongeneel why won’t you simply link for us a policy document or revised charter by Hamas that can support your claim that the organization has changed its mind since 1988? The 1988 Hamas Charter is clear in its claim to exclusive Muslim right over the entire territory of the State of Israel. It is also clear in expressing Anti-Semitism when, for example, the text refers to the “Protocols of the Elderly of Zion” as a source of truthful knowledge. I have sufficient respect for my enemies to take them seriously and, therefore, I’m persuaded that they mean what they stated. You, in contrast, seem to think that Hamas leaders are sort of imbecile children that do not mean what they say.
      You can read an English translation of the 1988 text here:
      http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

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    8. Baladi Akka 1948

      The four boys from the Bakr family were not brothers, but cousins, it’s even clearly mentioned in the embedded link.
      But many sisters and brothers, and entire families were wiped out by the National-Sionist attack on Gaza.

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      • Richard Cranium

        They definitely were not brothers; I am glad you pointed that out. They were Caucasian.

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    9. Ginger Eis

      “How long must Palestinians pay for the Holocaust? [op-ed]”

      The imbecility at +972mag is really endless and has taken the form of “op-ed”, while the ugly creatures rear their heads from several foreign countries!

      1. Samah Salaime Egbariya, the Jewish People are back to their Ancestral Home Land. And there is nothing, and I mean absolutely NOTHING, you and your Arab brothers can do about that.

      2. The Return of the Jewish People to The Land Of Israel has nothing to do with the Shoah (the Shoah accelerated the return). Israel IS today, not because a military coalition of at least 5 Arab States did not go to war with the young tiny Jewish State to physically annihilate Jewish men, women and children and throw them into the sea, but because we defeated your Armies – time and time again. On the other hand, You are here because we let you live and exist – even as we know that you desire nothing other than our physical destruction. Israel IS today not because your Muslim-Arab countries and Iran have given up the dream of annihilating her, no, but because we have outsmarted and overpowered you and the more you Arabs hold on to your delusions of eliminating Israel, the more misery you bring upon yourselves! Get that through your thick skull and stop being a racist even as you preach against racism – of which the lion share exists within YOUR Muslim-Arab societies and States.

      3. The question YOU should be asking is this:

      “How long must “Palestinians” pay for Muslim-Arab delusions and pomposity”! “The train heading full-speed toward oblivion is the “Palestinians” and the only way to save it is to make peace with Israel and give up the dream that someday, somehow you will be able to vanquish her.

      Btw: the infamous “Yellow Star” was invented by Muslim-Arabs, not the Nazis and Muslim-Arab leaders collaborated with the Nazi re the “final solution” to “the Jewish question”.

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      • Weiss

        Imbecility???

        Is that the best you’ve got Ginger???

        1. How can you possibly expect even the slightest bit of respect when you always start any of your RACIST , Jewish Supremacist rants with an arrogant insult?

        2. American Jews like myself whose family members were killed by the Nazis while helping to DEFEAT Fascism are DONE with Fascists like YOU.

        3. You better get used to it , because a Two-State solution is coming WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

        3.

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        • Ginger Eis

          “(…) a Two-State solution is coming WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.”

          a. Thank YOU Mr. Weiss, because now I finally, FINALLY, know where you stand after desperate attempts to get an answer from you: Two-State-Solution!

          b. Indeed, like yourself, I wholeheartedly support the right of Muslim-Arabs living in Judea & Samaria to Rule over themselves, be Masters of their own Destiny and Pursue Happiness like every other people! Israel can neither absorb them into the Jewish State nor throw them out of Judea & Samaria. So let them have their Independence on the land they live on. That’s is the basis and very simple equation. But that is NOT what the Muslim Arabs want, on the contrary, they want a “solution” that – in their delusion – will eventually bring about the demise of the Jewish State. Unlike you 99% of Israeli Jews who REJECT (i) the “right” of return of the refugees, (ii) return to the Auschwitz-borders and (iii) division of Jerusalem are not oblivious to that. We a better racists than dead!

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          • Ginger Eis

            We are better racists than DEAD! (was meant)

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          • andrew r

            Unfortunately the racism of the Zionist movement has made many other people dead.

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          • Gustav

            Unfortunately the racism of the anti-Zionists is the old hatred of the Jewish people revived as a new mutation of it.

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    10. Ginger Eis

      Here is just a FRACTION of how Muslims-Arabs collaborated with the Nazis for “The Final Solution To The Jewish Question”

      Watch. And weep!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjARZPAcATM

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      • andrew r

        That video is uber-moronic and I’m limiting myself to remarks dealing with the Third Reich-era.

        3:32 “Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini sent weapons”

        Germany in the 30’s had a policy of not antagonizing the British Empire and refrained from any involvement in Palestinian resistance to Zionism. The Foreign Office instructed local Nazi organs only to work with Germans living in Palestine. German officials repeatedly refused to sell weapons to any party fighting the British.

        http://books.google.com/books?id=8X2G1G_jD-4C&pg=PA101

        3:55 “He organized the mass killing of the Iraqi Jews called the Farhud”

        Which took place only after the British reoccupied Iraq on 1-2 June 1941. So we’re to believe Husseini left instructions for a pogrom in the event of the Rashid Ali regime being overthrown.

        Dieter Wisliceny’s remarks (5:00-5:45) need more substantiation, if that’s even possible. He wasn’t the only Nazi figure to try mitigating his role by throwing off the blame. No serious scholar of the Holocaust or the Third Reich I’m familiar with, Raul Hilberg, Ian Kershaw, Christopher Browning, Richard J. Evans, would propose the Mufti had a substantial role in the extermination machinery.

        5:50 “Husseini oversaw the recruitment and training of Muslim troops for Heinrich Himmler’s SS”

        Husseini was little more than a mascot letting himself be used for propaganda purposes. He had no commanding role in the Handschar division. So while collaborating with the Third Reich doesn’t make him a respectable figure by a long shot, the utter disregard of factual accuracy to make a case is really pathetic.

        Do you really think so little of yourself Ginger, as to pass off this amateurish bullshit as historical knowledge?

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        • Ginger Eis

          “Husseini was little more than a mascot letting himself be used for propaganda purposes.”

          Andrew R. the collaboration between the Nazi-echelon and Mr. Al-Husseini is well established the Nürmberger-prozes, German archives, and other historical documents, some of which are on tape. Your fight should thus be with historical facts not with me, no?

          Even YOUR source does not support you and makes a mockery of your attempts at apologetics and whitewashing:

          “Husseini was little more than a mascot letting himself be used for propaganda purposes.”

          Yeah, right! Indeed, Al-Husseini was a Zombie, no?

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          • andrew r

            I’m not disputing that Husseini collaborated with the Germans or that he met with Hitler and upper-most Nazis. The full extent of his collaboration was thus: Radio propaganda, organizing a Legion of Arab POWs in Axis territory, recruiting for anti-partisan activity in Bosnia (The Handschar Division) and lobbying the Germans and Romanians not to permit Jewish refugees to enter Palestine. (See “The Mufti of Jerusalem” by Philip Mattar and “The Destruction…” by Raul Hilberg) The idea that he was a decision maker in the “Final Solution” is unsubstantiated and frankly idiotic to anyone slightly well-read on the Third Reich.

            Also, Husseini was very stupid to attempt collaboration with the Axis powers on another level: The first genocide by an Axis power was committed by the Italians in Libya. Had they won the war, many collaborators from Allied-held domains might have found they would only get more repression and counterinsurgency if not outright mass killings for their trouble.

            Of course the point I’ve always made still stands: The Zionists were the ones who picked a conflict, and it’s really on their heads that a Palestinian leader would lobby against his country being used as a place of refuge.

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          • Ginger Eis

            The “Land” is The Land Of Israel, and there NEVER was any such thing as a “Palestinian country” (what an idiotic claim you make, Andrew!). The Jewish People took control of what is Eternally theirs. The Land Of Israel blooms once again, rejoices and blossoms at the Return of Her Sons and Daughters – as in the time of her Kings and Prophets. Today, Al-Husseini and his fellow scavengers are where they belong, the rest are still murmuring and gnashing their teeth, but time will take care of them. End of story.

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          • andrew r

            Oh, right. Since I generally ignore your posts, I’d forgotten what a raving fanatic you are.

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        • Ginger Eis

          Mr. Andrew R. the collaboration between the Nazi-echelon and Mr. Al-Husseini is well established the Nürmberg-prozes, German archives, and other historical documents, some of which are on tape. Your fight should thus be with historical facts not with me, no?

          Even YOUR own source does not support you and makes a mockery of your attempts at apologetics and whitewashing:

          “Husseini was little more than a mascot letting himself be used for propaganda purposes.”

          Yeah, right! Indeed, Al-Husseini was a Zombie, no?

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    11. James Bishop

      Just a short look at the comments here should convince Israelis that their time has come, and gone. Gather your belongings and families, get admission to some other nation, get out of the Middle East. If I could, I’d give you Utah. We aren’t using it.

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    12. Gustav

      The Saint Palestinians are lilly white pure. They have never lifted a finger to threaten and hurt us.

      Yeah, Right, not much ehh?

      Except in Hebron in 1929 when they carried out a bloody pogrom against the Jews of Hebron and massacred 64 Jews. Was that because of the occupation? Nah …!!! There was no occupation then …

      What about during the Arab revolt in the 1930s? They massacred hundreds of more Jews. Was that because of the occupation? Nah …!!! There was no occupation then …

      What about the 1947 riots following the announcement of partition by the UN. More Jews murdered. Was that because of the occupation? Nah…!!! … There was no occupation then either ….

      What about the expulsion of East Jerusalem’s Jews in 1948? At least you can argue that by then we too were doing some expulsions.

      What about the massacre of the Jewish prisoners of war in Gush Etzion in 1948 by the Saint Palestinians? They truly were noble were they?

      What about the thousands of Fedayeen attacks between 1948 and 1967? Was that because of the occupation? Nah …!!! …there was no occupation…

      What about the … I could go on and on and on …

      The Palestinian Arabs are not the innocent lambs who were taken to the slaughter by us. They were and still are very active instigators of a bloody war which they waged against us for the last 100 years. Complaining of suffering in the war of their own making therefore sounds very hollow. Everybody suffers in wars. They want war they then take what comes with war. Don’t want to suffer? Don’t want occupation? Make peace!!!

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    13. Ginger Eis

      This is the kind of abhorrent mean-stream Racism within Arab-Muslim society that Muslim-Arab hypocrites like Samah Salaime Egbariya like to ignore – even as thy hallucinate about a fringe Jewish anti-assimilation group and want to lecture the rest of us about racism:

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/188922#.VJgGssAA

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    14. Ginger Eis

      You cant make this stuff up!

      More abhorrent mainstream Racism within Muslim-Arab society – the kind Samah Salaime Egbariya loves to ignore – even as she rants about a fringe Jewish anti-assimilation group:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDGrmI_QipU

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      • Brian

        Yeah, it’s so fringe that there have been two Lahava-supportive Knesset hearings on the matter, one chaired by none other than Danny Danon, and with testimony solicited by the Knesset MKs from a representative of Yad L’Achim, the director of Lehava and from far-right activist Baruch Marzel. And it’s so fringe that since 2005, Hemla has received annual funding of between NIS 600,000-700,000.

        http://www.haaretz.com/misc/iphone-article/love-in-the-time-of-racism-the-new-dangerous-low-in-the-campaign-to-stop-interracial-relationships.premium-1.517545

        …“We noticed that when MK Meir Kahane claimed in the 1980s that Arab men were threatening to steal our wives and daughters, such statements were perceived as part of his extremist and taboo dogma, while today such statements are no longer a fringe phenomenon but becoming more and more common in the Israeli landscape,” says attorney Einat Hurvitz, the Israel Religious Action Center’s director of Legal and Public Advocacy. She is spearheading the center’s handling of the issue and initiated the report, which was authored by attorney Ruth Carmi.

        “Today,” she says, “there are organizations and foundations that publish racist statements under the guise of ‘saving the Jewish people,’ ensuring its future and safeguarding its daughters, when in fact their entire aim is to create and maintain total separation between Jews and Arabs in Israel, to prevent coexistence between Jews and Arabs, to exclude and humiliate the Arab public in Israel and to label it a dangerous enemy to be guarded against.” …

        “The most prominent include Lehava ‏(Preventing Assimilation in the Holy Land‏), Hemla, Yad L’Achim, Lev L’Achim, Derekh Hayim, the website of The Jewish Voice. The racist dogma of these organizations is disseminated via posters, broadsides, conferences, websites, radio broadcasts, advertising campaigns and from the synagogue podium. Since the end of 2010 we’ve seen a clear rise in the phenomenon. The organizations promoting incitement in this area cleverly create the impression of a widespread, acute social problem of assimilation and mixed marriages that require the ‘rescue’ of Jewish women who were ‘abducted’ or ‘seduced.’ The women have to be kept away from Arab men.

        “Complaints about this trend made their way to official Knesset discussions. In February 2011, there was a hearing in the Knesset Committee on the Status of Women as part of ‘Jewish identity day’ at the Knesset, on the subject of ‘the phenomenon of assimilation in Israel.’ The discussion dealt with marriages of Jewish women to Muslim men, which were described as violent and harmful relationships, and with ways − from the educational standpoint, primarily − to prevent such marriages in Israel.

        “Ten months later, there was another Knesset hearing, this time in the Committee for Immigration, Absorption and Diaspora Affairs, under the heading ‘The abduction of new female immigrants by minorities.’ It was scheduled as an emergency hearing by committee chairman MK Danny Danon ‏(Likud‏) and included testimony from a representative of Yad L’Achim, the director of Lehava and from far-right activist Baruch Marzel.’”

        Hemla, mentioned in your report, is funded by the Social Affairs Ministry.

        “Hemla is a nonprofit organization for aiding the needy and is funded by the state. Hemla’s stated purpose is to assist the needy. In 2002, the organization also undertook ‘to aid girls of Russian background who are in danger of assimilation and descending into crime, by rehabilitating them in an apartment and providing sociological and mental treatment and integrating them in Jewish society.’

        “Since 2005, Hemla has received annual funding of between NIS 600,000-700,000, accounting for half of its budget, from the ministry, which enables it to operate a shelter for women and girls in distress. For over a year we’ve been trying to obtain a copy of their agreement with the ministry, to no avail.

        “According to the ministry, the funds are designated for ‘therapy, support and personal and social rehabilitation,’ but in fact the money is used to ‘rehabilitate’ women who had romantic relationships with Arabs. Hemla’s PR person and one of its authorized signatories is Benzi Gopstein, director general of Lehava and director of the Otzma Leyisrael campaign in the last election.”

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      • Brian

        And Lehava and their ilk are so fringe that Daniel Blatman, professor of Holocaust-era history at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, can write in Haaretz:

        “Quite a few states in the 20th century passed, or tried to pass, nationality laws, through efforts that share certain similarities. All took place in countries with at least one national minority (sometimes more than one) that sought full equality in the state or in a territory that had become part of the state and in which it had lived for generations. …

        Nationality laws were passed in states that were grounded in one ethnic identity, defined in contrast to the identity of the other, leading to persecution of and codified discrimination against minorities. Jews were the first victims of these regimes, in which phobias and suspicion replaced the principles of social and political pluralism…. [Blatman goes on to describe how this transpired in Poland and Romania]

        According to [Knesset member Yariv ] Levin, the state’s Jewish expressions reflect the fact that Israel is not only the Jews’ nation-state, but also a state whose very lifeblood is Judaism — a situation that is unique in all the world. A unique situation in the Western, democratic world, but it has a historical precedent in the Poles’ attempt to create a state that pushed its minorities out of the national partnership.

        The proposed nationality bill does not refer explicitly to the rights of minorities living in Israel and does not explicitly guarantee their equal rights. …the bill specifies that national minorities are to have no say regarding the character of the state of which they are supposedly citizens with equal rights. … All obligatory state symbols are Jewish ones. Only Jews have the right to immigrate freely and receive citizenship. The state will cultivate only the Jewish heritage and traditions; Jewish law is to serve as inspiration for laws, and so on.

        One need not be a historian to see the resemblance between the Israeli nationality bill and nationality laws of 80 years ago. Like them, it delineates the boundaries between the most important, dominant group of citizens and the rest, who are turned into guests of a sort in their own country — tolerated ones, for the present.

        At the extreme nationalist fringe of the bill’s promoters, efforts are already under way to define its final goal. The followers of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane and members of Lehava will not settle for formulas specifying Israel’s Jewish character and the Jews’ sole claim to national privilege in the state. Their model for the nationality law is the Nuremberg Laws. Their main goal is to preserve Jewish racial purity and to wage war on marriages or romantic relationships between Jews and members of minority groups.

        Lehava’s website states: “Intermarriage is forbidden according to the will of God, who gave severe warnings in his Torah against mixing the seed of the living God with other nations and against losing the special uniqueness of the Jewish people.”

        No, they say, this is not racism. The goal is only to protect our nation. In 1936, two Nazi jurists, Bernhard Lösener and Friedrich Knost, published a book about the Jewish question in Germany that spoke about the Nuremberg Laws. The purpose of these laws, they wrote, was not to cause racial hatred. On the contrary, it was to ease and regulate the relationship between Jews and Germans over the long term….”

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        • Gustav

          Idiotic, just idiotic …

          The idea of Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people is to reflect our
          quest to institutionalize the idea of a Jewish majority state. Jewish as in Jewish by culture, birth, background or Jewish by choice (by conversion), no more no less!

          It is OBSCENE that some people try to make that to be an act of discrimination by us when in reality we want such a recognition precisely in order to ensure that there would be one country on this earth (Israel) where Jewish people would be guaranteed to have a majority so that we wouldn’t potentially have to face the kind of DISCRIMINATION, PERSECUTION and HATRED which Jewish people faced, as minorities in various parts of this world, including the ARAB WORLD for nearly 2000 years.

          Yes, it is indeed OSCENE to turn our REACTION to historical PERSECUTION, HATRED and DISCRIMINATION against us!!!

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          • Brian

            Sure, Gustav, sure, that’s what it’s really all about, sure. You repeat this over and over and it’s never been convincing. Daniel Blatman is just an idiot is he? What the heck was Hebrew U. thinking? Those idiots.

            http://icj.huji.ac.il/Daniel%20Blatman.asp

            And Amos Schocken, another complete idiot:

            “According to Netanyahu, if the Palestinians don’t recognize Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, the Palestinian state that arises through a peace treaty “will continue to subvert the foundation for the existence of the Jewish state … try to flood us with refugees … [and] advance irredentist claims from within the State of Israel’s territory – territorial claims, national claims.”

            But Netanyahu isn’t convincing. If a Palestinian state recognizes Israel and signs a peace treaty without recognizing Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, will it be able to do all these bad things? And if it recognizes it as the nation-state of the Jewish people, it won’t? Usually, when countries make a peace deal, the “subverting” stops. And if this subverting is inevitable, a piece of paper recognizing a nation-state won’t prevent it.

            There are hints that in a comprehensive framework deal, there will be an agreement on the refugee issue. But it won’t be achieved by the ploy of recognizing the nation-state of the Jews. It will be achieved through negotiations.

            Yes, there have been irredentist claims – by the prime minister regarding the settlements. He’s interested in Jewish irredentism in the Palestinian state. On the other hand, Arab Israelis can make national claims without anything to do with the question of the Palestinians recognizing Israel in general or as the Jewish national home. Ironically, Israel defining itself as the nation-state of the Jewish people could justify national or irredentist claims by Israel’s Palestinian citizens.

            Netanyahu forgot that he’s also prime minister of Arab Israelis – a fifth of all Israeli citizens. They’re not happy with defining the state as Jewish and democratic, but this definition includes a key component regarding their connection to the state. Defining Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people would disconnect them from Israel at a time when we need to strengthen their connection to it.

            Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas certainly can’t write them off by agreeing to the definition that Netanyahu demands. His responsibility toward them is no less than that of Israel to world Jewry.

            If Palestinian recognition of the nation-state of the Jewish people is no more valuable than simply recognizing Israel, what’s the point in asking for something that Abbas can’t agree to? U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry probably understands this.”

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          • Gustav

            Again Brian, I don’t care who says what. I think for myself. Do you think for yourself???

            Which bit of a 100 year war don’t you people understand, mmmmmm???? This war was triggered by the Arab refusal to accept the UN partitioning of Palestine into a JEWISH state and into an Arab state.

            If we are now to give up tangible strategic assets such as lands in exchange for peace, then we need a FORMAL assurance from our enemies that the war has formally ended. Otherwise, why should we give up anything, mmmmmm, Brian??????!!!

            How do we get that assurance? By them FORMALLY recognizing our state as the nation state of the JEWISH people!

            You say, what’s the good of that formal recognition on a piece of paper? You say they may renege on it anyways? Yes you are right, they may … and we are willing to take that risk for the sake of peace! So we are the bad people for insisting on it? How does that work Brian dear???? We are taking a risk for peace but we insist on formal recognition by them that they no longer consider our Jewish state as something which they must destroy but we are the intransigent ones?

            What is their refusal signify if not to signal that they still want to destroy the Jewish state?, mmmmmm, Brian????!!!

            You say their signature would only be a worthless piece of paper? Not really, Brian!!!! Because if after signing that piece of paper which they may subsequently ignore, they would reveal themselves for what they really are. That they are just a bunch of supremacist intransigent haters and the whole world would not dare to criticize us for at least one generation if we would give them another bloody nose for trying to destroy us.

            Without that piece of paper, however, they would have a fig leaf to cover themselves with if they would try their luck against our Jewish state again. They could just say, hey guys… Don’t blame us for trying to destroy the Jewish state again … hey … we never promised anything ….!!!

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          • Bryan

            At the very least you seem to be arithmetically challenged: “Which bit of a 100 year war don’t you people understand, mmmmmm????” Has it really been going on for 100 years? No it seems: “This war was triggered by the Arab refusal to accept the UN partitioning of Palestine into a JEWISH state and into an Arab state.” So the UN started this war in 1914, over thirty years before it came into existence. If you cannot respect basic facts your opinions are obviously worthless.

            The UN had absolutely no authority to partition territory, and its proposal would have validity only if both sides agreed – just as the famous tale of the two mothers appearing before Solomon (and offered a partition of a disputed child), relates, the real mother said no and the fraudulent one said yes.

            It is not surprising however that you jump to espouse this single pretext for Israel’s legitimacy, because other claims are spurious. A bit of hearsay about some divine promise; the fact that Jews once, long ago, lived in the land; a crazy belief that a people could only be safe by commandeering a villa in the jungle; a promise from Balfour that he had no right to make, and contradicted other promises his government had made; a terrible Holocaust for which the Palestinians had zero responsibility; innovative contributions to world civilisation like cherry tomatoes, originally developed in Mexico centuries ago, and later cultivated in Greece and Egypt.

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          • Gustav

            And you are comprehension challenged, Bryan dear. Not only that, but you don’t know your history either.

            This war was started by the Arabs way before 1947 and way before the UN even came into it. We started returning to our homeland around the 1850s. Palestine around that time was sparsely populated, around 400,000 people of whom a small minority were Jewish. But there was plenty of room here for both Arabs and Jews. Not many years afterwards we were subject to sporadic Arab attacks because like us, the Arabs had their own nationalist agenda except, unlike us, they were not willing to compromise or share the land.

            Hey Bryan, what happened to all those books you claim to have read? It just does not show. Your knowledge of the history of this conflict seems to be very poor. Yet like all the ignorants on this site, you have very inflated opinions about things you seem to have very little knowledge about. This is the second time I caught you out…

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          • Gustav

            “It is not surprising however that you jump to espouse this single pretext for Israel’s legitimacy, because other claims are spurious. A bit of hearsay about some divine promise”

            Here you go again. In our last encounter you claimed that there is no archeological evidence for any history of Jews inhabiting these lands. I gave you links which demonstrated how wrong you were. At least four links which showed ample archeological evidence that this was a land inhabited by Jewish people as long ago as 2000 BC.

            You never challenged my links on that other thread. But now you come back with your pretence that our only claim is based on biblical narratives (not that such evidence should be ignored either, mind you) but you are pretending that there is no other evidence. That is just being dishonest because you wilfully ignore the other evidence which I already presented to you.

            A bit like you pick on my phrase that this war was triggered by the UN which partitioned the land into Jewish and Arab States in 1947. You pretend that by that, I meant that 1947 was the START of the war. But if you would really know your history, you’d know about the Arab revolt against the Brits in the 1920s and 1930s and you’d also know that during those revolts, Jews were attacked and murdered by Arab irregular forces. For instance, in 1929, the Jews of Hebron were massacred by an incited Arab mob. And there were attacks against us even before that …

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          • Gustav

            Bryan:”The UN had absolutely no authority to partition territory, and its proposal would have validity only if both sides agreed –”

            I don’t deny that. UN Resolution 181 was only a recommendation which the Arabs had the right to reject.

            Equally, we the Jewish people had the right to accept it and declare our state as the nation state of the Jewish people.

            That in turn triggered a civil war (which was just the latest round in a war which the Arabs waged against us since much earlier).

            As it happened, we won that war which in fact turned out to be just a battle in the war which started much earlier and it continues to this day. Consequently our Jewish state of Israel came into existence. Yet to this day, the Saint Palestinians refuse to accept our state as the nation state of the Jewish people. In other words, they don’t want peace! They want the destruction of our state because it is a Jewish state.

            Bryan:”Just as the famous tale of the two mothers appearing before Solomon (and offered a partition of a disputed child), relates, the real mother said no and the fraudulent one said yes.”

            LOL, suddenly he turns all biblical on me. What happened to your rejection of the Bible as a valid source which verified our historical connection to this land?

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          • Brian

            Well, you do seem to be thinking for yourself here Gustav but if I were you I wouldn’t own up to it in public. “Without that piece of paper…” is written (thinking for myself here–are you ready?) as if there will be no piece of paper signed in a final status, end of conflict agreement–an agreement which, to do everything you say you want, will not ever have to contain the Palestinians’ endorsement of ‘The Nation State of the Jewish People’–codifying a two-state solution. You write as if Abu Mazen and Netanyahu would simply shake hands and gaze lovingly at each other and say, like Bush looking into Putin’s eyes, “I looked into the man’s eyes and I see someone I can trust.” Nonsense. Abu Mazen is on public record saying he has the right to visit Safed as a tourist but not as a citizen, and is willing to sit down and hammer out–and sign!–on paper!–a fair end of conflict agreement based on ’67 lines, swaps and sharing Jerusalem, but you, Gustav, demand his written validation of your Jewish nationalism as the cherry on top of the cake. Without the slightest admission on your part that Netanyahu cynically concocted that humiliating condition because he absolutely knew ahead of time that no honorable Palestinian leader could agree to it.

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          • Brian

            …actually, not as the cherry on top of the cake, but as a stimulating aperitif before you will even agree to go into the kitchen and start baking the cake.

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          • Gustav

            Brian you can go on putting lipstick on a pigs face but you will not find a single conflict in the history of mankind, in which one side agreed to give up everything in return for nothing.

            You cry for your Saint Palestinians that it would be humiliating for them to renounce the idea that made them fight a 100 year war against us? Well then cry me a river of tears … They should not have started their war against us in the first place… A little humble pie is a small price to pay in exchange for us giving up tangible assets such as lands.

            Most nations other than these haughty supremacist aggressors would have been willing to agree to pay such a price long ago. But not your Saint Palestinians because they are under the false belief that they have a winning strategy. That they have convinced the world to force Israel to give up without getting even a simple pledge in return. But once again, they are wrong. No one on this earth will force us to sell ourselves this short. God knows that people like Olmert already bent over backwards to give your saintly Palestinian Arabs everything that you outlined above, including borders based on the 67 lines and sharing Jerusalem but even that wasn’t enough for them. Now they won’t even get that!

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          • Gustav

            GUSTAV:”but you will not find a single conflict in the history of mankind, in which one side agreed to give up everything in return for nothing.”

            … I should have wrote the above as follows instead:

            “…agreed to give up everything in return for nothing, unless it would be a case of having to surrender unconditionally”

            … but guess what, Brian dear, we are not in such a situation and we won’t be either!

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          • Brian

            Then why do you keep insisting the Palestinians’ surrender unconditionally? This is just a useless recitation of your talking points, mindlessly. We’ll leave it to others here to decide what “nothing” is and who is being told to take it or leave it, and who is calling black white and white black. There’s nothing more to add. You’ve only one thing left to do–to write Amos Oz, A. B. Yehoshua, Daniel Grossman, Amos Schocken and Daniel Blatman and the six Shin Bet chiefs in ‘The Gatekeepers’ to tell them that they are morons.

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          • Gustav

            Whaaaaatttttt? Israeli withdrawal from most of the West Bank would represent unconditional surrender by the Palestinian Arabs? Are you having a lend of us Brian????!!!!

            Which bit of quid pro quo don’t you understand Brian?

            Israeli withdrawal from lands in return for formal recognition of our state as the nation state of the Jewish people, that is a reversal of a 100 years of war by them on us because we declared our state as the state of the Jewish people.

            To most reasonable people such a concept would be as easy as one, two three …

            Why is it like pulling a tooth to you and your Saint Palestinians?

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          • Gustav

            At least Amos Oz is honest. Some of what he advocates is valid some is not but there is no disputing the fact that he is a Zionist at heart and he wants what he thinks is best for us. But wanting it and reality are not always the same thing.

            Here read this bit of criticizm of Amos Oz, Brian …

            http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/deconstructing-amos-oz/

            I agree with most of it. I would sum up Amos Oz as someone who is overly complacent and even a bit arrogant about what we can and cannot afford to give as concessions to the Palestinian Arabs. In some ways he reminds me of Dayan after the 1967 war. He acted as if we were invincible but 1973 should have showed us how quickly things can turn around. I think any arrogance and complacency by us is misplaced. We cannot afford arrogance be it leftist arrogance or right wing arrogance. We can’t afford either type of arrogance. We need to insist on our rights if we are to give up strategic assets such as lands.

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    15. Prominent antisemitic americans, namely Henry Ford and Charles Lindburgh. Lindburgh made 2 visits to nazi Germany with his wife in 1936 and 1937. There was also the German American Bund, the British Free Corps and The British Union of Fascists. Yet the Palestinians pay the price for crimes against humanity they didn’t commit.

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      • andrew r

        I know the predictable response to this would be that Husseini was a national leader while Ford was only a businessman, but anyone who follows US media knows leading businesspeople are considered role-models. In fact, I learned in elementary school that Ford invented the assembly line, and nothing about his Hitler collaboration or union-busting.

        Conversely I’m not a fan of the “pay the price” theorem. The Jewish Agency Executives decided to support compulsory transfer of the Palestinians away from the prospective “Jewish” state before Sept. 1939. They’re paying for decisions the Zionist movement made well before Hitler took over Germany.

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      • Recently an Arab Muslim from Nazareth had to leave Israel because he was receiving death threats from other Arab Muslims.

        His crime? He is a Zionist who supports the State of Israel.

        One of his relatives is a current Knesset member and he has denounced her!

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    16. Average American

      So very tired of hearing about the Holocaust. It justifies nothing. Jews were not the only ones killed and arguably not the highest number killed. Further, the highly-used scenes of starved people (whatever ethnicity they were) behind barbed wire were those found by the Allies in the most remote work camp sites (yes work camps for the production of German war goods) at the end of failed supply lines once Germany started losing the war. The less remote work camp sites were found no worse off than our own exhausted and hungry Allied soldiers. This is also history. Further, the Nuremburg “trials” were a witch-hunt farce of legal procedures including disclosure of evidence, rights of defendant, and the new and convenient concept of making a new law active on something that was done before the law existed, conveniently silencing all the commanding Germans who could have told the whole story to the world. Israel should be judged only by their own actions.

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      • Brian

        So Samah Egbariya makes an intelligent and dignified argument, without the slightest trace of Holocaust denial, for Netanyahu to stop misuing the Holocaust, and we have to get a coarse idiot like you, Average American, chiming in here with a (relatively) soft form of Holocaust denial. You do no one any good with this crap. You dishonor Samah Egbariya with this dreck and you dishonor +972 which is not now and never has been about Holocaust denial. At all. The whole point Egbariya is making could not be more different than the point you seem to be trying to make. We need you here about as much as we need Tomer.

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        • Average American

          Obviously certain things can no longer be mentioned. There is only one version of history and it’s yours. General Patton was a liar. Everyone in the world owes you something. No other facts can be spoken.

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          • Brian

            No. Egbariya made an intelligent case why everyone does NOT owe the Israelis everything. There are many versions of history and any fact can and should be spoken, but it needs to be spoken intelligently and truthfully and in context, not stupidly. I’m not going to just give Holocaust denial a pass. You may think I’m being rude to you but your little capsule version of history up above is so wanting on these critera that it becomes offensive. And here’s the thing, Average, your little contribution here could not be more effective at derailing intelligent conversation about Egbariya if Netanyahu wrote it himself. What does that say about your capacity for discernment as to what is effective writing and serious history? So it is doubly offensive.

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        • GilGamesh

          Brian though we always disagree, in this case I must give you well deserved props. Thanks for being upstanding.

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          • Brian

            You’re welcome and that’s all well and good, thank you and I appreciate it; but there is a curious reverse pattern around here. When ‘Tomer’ comes on here and salutes the Kahanist Feiglin and glorifies forcible mass population transfer of people out of their land I’ve not seen a peep out of anyone on the Right to confront him. When ‘Ginger Eis’ jumps in here and calls every one who does not toe a line inside the Netanyahu-to-Feiglin spectrum a self-hating Jew or a Jew-hater not one of you calls her on it. Holocaust denial is a given, a rightfully recognized form of ignorance or stupidity or worse. Nobody who wants to be taken seriously engages in it. But Occupation denial is all *de rigeur* around here. Those who object to it are often treated with contempt. Occupation denial is respectable. Remember, anti-Semitism was once respectable, sociologically speaking. It no longer is. Too much history has happened. This is absolutely not to EQUATE the Occupation and the Shoah–they are not commensurable, but it is to IS to draw parallels between the everyday laziness about casual anti-Semitism before the Shoah made it intolerable and the everyday laziness about the Tomerian and Eisian tactics I note above, and furthermore about the Occupation itself. A reverse assumption that that’s OK. I’ve not seen you or one of your allies similarly confront it. You can pick apart how exactly drawn are the parallels I am drawing but I don’t claim exactness. I’m getting at something else, a kind of double standard, a kind of pass given to right wing ugliness by the more respectable right wingers here.

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          • GilGamesh

            Sorry Brian but I haven’t seen anyone denying that there is an occupation. I have seen some anti-Zionists who insist that Israel itself is occupied. There are also Zionists that claim Gaza isn’t occupied and I’m not really sure where I stand on that myself.But I have yet to encounter any Zionists that claim that the WB isn’t occupied. However in the future should I run across any I promise to call them out.

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          • Brian

            Gilgamesh they do it all the time. Either in the form of “they’re disputed not occupied” or in the Pedroian-Tomerian manner of “build baby build!” They don’t have to literally say “I deny the Occupation.” To Pedro X the Occupation is not illegal and its not an occupation, it’s a real estate development to be celebrated. And he never tires of making excuses for it. To Tomer its not an Occupation it’s the first step to mass population transfer. Heil Feiglin! To Eis it is fair game to aggressively label everyone left of Netanyahu a self hater or a hater. At least you did not deny that these folks like Tomer and Eis do what they do, and that no one on the Right calls them on it. That’s the casual everyday tolerance I’m talking about.

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      • andrew r

        The less remote work camp sites were found no worse off than our own exhausted and hungry Allied soldiers.

        You don’t say. And millions of German soldiers died on the Eastern Front. We’re all just people, really. It’s not like anybody caused WWII to begin or anything like that.

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