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COMIC: Gaza exit interview

By Eli Valley

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Eli Valley is a writer and artist whose work has been published in The Nation, The Daily Beast, The Forward, Gawker, Saveur, Haaretz and elsewhere. He is currently finishing his first novel. Eli’s website is www.EVComics.com and he tweets at @elivalley.

Previous work by Eli Valley on +972 Magazine:
Consensus in the conference
Dershowitz preps for Goldstone II
Google Glass for the Gaza gaze
What if Mahmoud was named Jonah?

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    1. Whiplash

      Another anti-Semitic cartoon courtesy of 972mag.

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      • Reza Lustig

        Where is the anti-semitism?

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    2. Whiplash

      What is anti-Semitic?

      1. Drawing and contorting the appearance of Jewish leaders and personalities in a grotesque distortion of their physical features is anti-Semitic.

      2. Making Jews look menacing, creepy, crazy, dirty, dark and swarthy is classic anti-Semitism.

      3. Throwing in a blood libel or two is classic anti-Semitism, such as Jewish soldiers shooting civilians.

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      • Danny

        1. The real Netanyahu is far more grotesque than the caricature. Every time I see his face I feel like punching the TV.

        2. Israeli Jews are menacing, creepy and many of them are downright loons. Just yesterday we were exposed to Israeli depravity in the their secret wish for Obama’s 53’rd birthday (hint: it wasn’t golf clubs).

        3. Saying that Israeli soldiers shoot civilians is not a blood libel because it’s true. In fact, 75% of Gaza’s casualties were civilians, and over 300 were children.

        The truth sucks, doesn’t it?

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        • CigarButNoNice

          “Israeli Jews are menacing, creepy and many of them are downright loons.”

          Yes, those who care about their national survival above all things are likely to be seen as such by the cosmopolitan, Islam-sympathizing, West-hating left-wing citoyens du monde.

          As an Israeli Jewish right-wing Zionist, I am proud to be reviled by the likes of you. You useful idiots of Islamic imperialist expansionism will have your reward, don’t worry. Just do a little reading about what happened to the Tudeh in 1980s Iran for a preview.

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          • Danny

            As a Jewish Israeli who has had too many conversations with too many Israelis whose world-view I can only summarize as distorted, I can attest that Israel is no longer a place where normal people can feel comfortable in (Gila Almagor and Orna Banai would probably agree with me).

            When the normal of your place is the fear and loathing of all Arabs regardless of the content of their character (to paraphrase MLK), combined with a healthy dose of religious conviction and sprinkled with a belief in a never-ending holocaust, you are talking about a deeply emotionally sick society, which is how I would best describe Israel.

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          • CigarButNoNice

            “…I can attest that Israel is no longer a place where normal people can feel comfortable in”

            Only if you define “normal” as “multiculturalist rootless cosmopolitan,” in which case your discomfort is all too clear: It’s the discomfort of belonging to a dying breed.

            Throughout all the world, the idea of multiculturalism or having the state as a propositional free-for-all where anyone can come and be accepted while keeping their cultural/national idiosyncracies, is now seen as a dismal failure. While the mainstream media outlets and pusillanimous leadership of the nation-states try their hardest to keep the lid on popular resentment, the fact remains that hoi polloi want their nation-state to be once a safe haven for their respective nations.

            All those multicultural experiments are Lebanon One Way (“Lebanon” as in 1975–90), even in formerly strife-free countries like the United Kingdom. As usual, Israel is the canary in the coal mine or harbinger of change—the Lebanon-prone weak democracy is to be replaced by a strong, self-defending democracy where the nation is guaranteed security through exclusive rights for its members. I know this to be inevitable, not because I’m a prophet but because one can see for himself that nation-states that fail to change that way will simply not survive.

            In view of how your cosmopolitan Leftist worldview is crumbling as we speak, I can understand your pain. But that’s all the sympathy you’ll get from me. I don’t care about being politically correct, I care about the survival of my nation. Also, I’m not overly impressed by those who scream about Israel’s “Jewish exclusivism” while having had not a peep against Sari Nusseibeh’s and Abu Mazen’s repeated statements that a new “Palestinian”-Arab state would not allow any Jewish residents. What’s good for the goose…

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          • Danny

            I live in a multi cultural country where everyone miraculously gets along regardless of their background (which is mostly irrelevant, as it should be). So there is no pain for me, as you put it. My worldview is fully intact, I assure you.

            But your worldview may be falling apart as we speak. Your twisted ideology, that has clear fascist-like elements baked into it, is turning off more and more people every day, and alienating your state more and more. The day is not far when the word ‘zionist’ will become a four-letter word that is synonymous with hate, prejudice, discrimination and war.

            If it doesn’t change its ways, Israel’s future is bleak, and there is no amount of hasbara that can change that. You will continue to sink deeper and deeper into the slime that is zionism until it drowns you.

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          • CigarButNoNice

            “I live in a multi cultural country where everyone miraculously gets along regardless of their background…”

            Which country would that be?

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          • Oriol

            “Rootless cosmopolitan” was a term applied by Stalinism to Jewish intellectuals -those that were to be sent to the gulag-, and was used as an anti-Semitic slur in the USSR of that time. Better not comment.
            On the other hand, Israel IS a multicultural country. Actually that’s one of the things that shocked me the first time I visited. “Gosh, this is the wet dream of European multiculti anti-Zionists! The problem is that this is the ZIONIST state!”

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      • Goldmarx

        “Drawing and contorting the appearance of Jewish leaders and personalities in a grotesque distortion of their physical features is anti-Semitic.”

        –> Valley is not drawing Bibi with a hooked nose, so there’s no ‘classic’ anti-Semitism. In addition, when Valley has drawn Gentiles, they are also grotesque distortions.

        “Making Jews look menacing, creepy, crazy, dirty, dark and swarthy is classic anti-Semitism.”

        –>Obama looked pretty scary in prior valley cartoons. He even looked ‘swarthier’ than he actually is.

        “Throwing in a blood libel or two is classic anti-Semitism, such as Jewish soldiers shooting civilians.”

        –>The blood libel is when Jews are accused of killing Gentile children and using their blood to make matzoh. Israeli soldiers (who happen to be Jewish) have fired upon Palestinian civilians in the West Bank during the search of the three Jewish teenagers (even when the top Israeli brass already knew they were dead).

        More importantly, an Israeli soldier, Eran Efrati on July 29 came forward on his Facebook page to disclose what happened in Gaza:

        “In recent weeks I was on the border of Gaza and getting reports from soldiers in the Gaza Strip who leak information out to me. I am in the process of publication of two big stories in major U.S. newspapers, but there are some things I can share with you right now: Soldiers in two different units inside Gaza leaked information about the murdering of Palestinians by sniper fire in Shuja’iyya neighborhood as punishment for the death of soldiers in their units. After the shooting on the Israeli armored personnel carriers, which killed seven soldiers of the Golani Brigade, the Israeli army carried out a massacre in Shuja’iyya neighborhood. A day after the massacre, many Palestinians came to search for their relatives and their families in the rubble. In one of the videos uploaded to YouTube, a young Palestinian man Salem Shammaly calls the names of his family and looking for them between the ruins when he is suddenly shot at in his chest and falls down. A few seconds after that, there are two additional shootings from snipers into his body, killing him instantly. Since the video was released, there was no official response from the IDF spokesperson. Today I can report that the official command that was handed down to the soldiers in Shujaiyya was to capture Palestinian homes as outposts. From these posts, the soldiers drew an imaginary red line, and amongst themselves decided to shoot to death anyone who crosses it. Anyone crossing the line was defined as a threat to their outposts, and was thus deemed a legitimate target. This was the official reasoning inside the units. I was told that the unofficial reason was to enable the soldiers to take out their frustrations and pain at losing their fellow soldiers (something that for years the IDF has not faced during its operations in Gaza and the West Bank), out on the Palestinian refugees in the neighborhood. Under the pretext of the so-called “security threat” soldiers were directed to carry out a pre-planned attack of revenge on Palestinian civilians. These stories join many other similar ones that Amira Hass and I investigated in Operation Cast Lead. The death toll that continues to rise is steadily reaching the numbers of the massacre of 2009.
        More than 1,100 have been killed in Gaza, at least 80 percent of them civilians. Today it is cleared for publication that at least 4 soldiers were killed by a rocket in a gathering area outside of Gaza, and another soldier was killed in Gaza. They join 43 soldiers that have already been killed. We know that more acts of revenge will come soon and it is important that we not stay silent. This is the time to take to the streets and to social media. Demand from your representative wherever you are to stop supporting this massacre and to immediately boycott the state of Israel until the occupation ends, the blockade is lifted and Palestinians will be free. We all want to be in the right place at the right time when history knocks on our door, and history is knocking in Gaza right now. You need to decide on which side you want to go down in history.”

        https://www.facebook.com/eran.efrati.9?fref=nf

        So, Whiplash, is the truth anti-Semitic?

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        • Goldmarx

          Correction. Eran is not a soldier (at least not now).

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      • Reza Lustig

        So basically, anti-semitism is when anything bad or rude or insulting is done to a Jew, whether or not it is because he or she is a Jew. And drawing, for instance, a Southern hillbilly as “creepy, crazy, dirty, dark and swarthy” is OK, as long as it isn’t a Jew being drawn that way. Otherwise it’s anti-semitism.

        Have I got it about right?

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        • Richard

          No, you haven’t. I don’t understand why you bother commenting just to be obtuse. It is totally pointless. Nobody is going to read that or most of your other comments and even think you’re being sincere.

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          • Reza Lustig

            I’m not the one who contradicts somebody without even explaining their error to them. How is my statement obtuse?

            “Drawing and contorting the appearance of Jewish leaders and personalities in a grotesque distortion of their physical features is anti-Semitic.”

            Whiplash’s explanation of “anti-semitic” art. Basically, drawing any Jewish person as being ugly or funny looking, to him, is anti-semitic. Whether or not it is simply because he/she is Jewish, or for their opinions or policies.

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    3. Richard

      Amen. Eli Valley has come up with a caricature style that makes Jewish people look grotesque, but without employing precisely the kind of exaggeration of stereotypically Jewish features that is most often associated with anti-semitic propaganda of the early twentieth century (although many cartoonists, especially in the Muslim world, still use the old style). Nevertheless, Valley clearly means to depict Jews specifically as grotesque and ghoulish, so his work is anti-semitic. Let’s not split hairs just because he doesn’t draw Bibi with a huge nose.

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      • Goldmarx

        “Let’s not split hairs”? Ha!

        If Valley’s point of view supported this war, you would not be complaining at all about “anti-Semitic” cartoons, even if the Jews depicted had hooked noses.

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      • Jim

        Eli draws EVERYONE that way, so it’s a libel against him to call it anti-semitism. Here are a bunch of examples:

        (1) This one’s about the Hobby Lobby. No one in it is specified as Jewish, but they all look like everyone Eli draws: http://www.evcomics.com/2014/07/30/hobby-lobby/

        (2) This one’s about a Jewish girl he LIKES, Amy Winehouse. She looks just like everyone else Eli ever draws: http://www.evcomics.com/2011/11/02/missing-amy/

        (3) This one’s got Helen Thomas (an Arab) looking as ‘grotesque’ as all the Jews in Eli’s comics: http://www.evcomics.com/2010/10/27/helens-head/

        (4) This one’s about Obama. I hear he’s a Muslim. 😉 http://www.evcomics.com/2008/02/15/obama-menace-dress-up-doll/

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        • Richard

          Jim – you raise a potentially valid point, although you misunderstood the meaning of the “Helen’s Head” cartoon – the head is satirizing how Valley thinks Jews see Helen Thomas, not how HE sees Helen Thomas. So in a sense the cartoon is really a self-indictment because it shows you how Valley thinks a grotesque person looks according to some objective standard, which, low and behold, looks like all the Jewish leaders he draws. Comparing Valley’s depiction of Jews he doesn’t like (Bibi etc.) and Jews and others he does like, I think there’s still a clear difference in terms of aesthetics (expressions of malice, distortions of features). Even if there wasn’t, Valley’s work centers so much on depicting Jews that I don’t think he’s really covering his tracks by making everyone look a bit grotesque. As far as refuting claims about his anti-semitism, your argument is the logical equivalent of the “but I have Jewish friends” argument – making exceptions to a broader discriminatory perspective doesn’t erase that perspective.

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        • Richard

          Jim – also, you don’t know what libel is. If you’re in America, at least look up the definition in your state before making that accusation. Here’s a helpful hint – look for the part about the distinction between statements of OPINION and statements of FACT.

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    4. Jamie McCarthy

      I’m no expert on Tel Aviv, but it looks like the Matcal Tower (which includes military offices) is at least 300 yards from the Sourasky Medical Center. Here they are on Google Maps, see for yourself:

      https://www.google.com/maps/search/Hospital/@32.0768515,34.7900047,823m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!2m3!3m2!1sHospital!2s32.075269399999996,+34.7901528

      If those are the buildings you’re talking about, to say the one is “next to” the other is simply false.

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    5. Reality Check

      Eli Valley is an anti-Israel bigot. Not an “anti-war” activist or a “peace” activist.

      He just attacks Israel. In every worthless, vile cartoon.

      Just garbage.

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      • Goldmarx

        Did Valley ‘attack’ Israel in the Hobby Lobby cartoon? In the Amy Winehouse cartoon?

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    6. Reality Check

      Eli Valley’s target audience, “Danny,” posting above, wrote this above:

      “Israeli Jews are menacing, creepy and many of them are downright loons.”

      That’s the type of person that is an Eli Valley fan.

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    7. Reality Check

      Eli Valley sits on Twitter and just attacks Israel. Just tweet after tweet. Nothing but hate towards Israel. Nothing but sarcasm. Just unhinged, anti-Israel garbage. A cancerous hatemonger, who seems to wake up each day eagerly rushing to his computer to type or draw his hatred of Israel. That, seemingly, is the Eli Valley existence. Just a lonely, pathetic, hateful soul, desperately clutching to his hatred of Israel to get him through the day.

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