Comments on: Women challenge segregation of Hebron street in direct action

By: American citizens are detained in Hebron for wearing hijab on a 'Jewish street'

American citizens are detained in Hebron for wearing hijab on a 'Jewish street' — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:56:01 +0000

[...] and beaten by the IDF. Their action was not an act of nonviolent resistance against the law – as Noa Shaindlinger wrote in +972, their action was “perfectly legal.” Instead, their action exposed the lack of law in Hebron [...]

By: Modafy kal-kani

Modafy kal-kani — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:16:40 +0000

We all as Muslims have failed to stop all this killing, and for the King of Saudi, shame on him for not speaking in what is happening , after all, he is the King of the holly place for all Muslims,

And the Jewish government!!

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 01:25:28 +0000

I wonder if we should spread the suggestion of David Friedlander, namely to use term hafrada rather then Apartheid. After all, in the case of South we used Segregation, as people of the South used, and in the case of South Africa, apartheid, a Dutch word that Afrikaners used. The discussion should not be if hafrada is similar to apartheid but if it is good or evil.

It looks pretty well:

In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny . . . and I say . . . hafrada today . . . hafrada tomorrow . . . hafrada forever.

By: Terri Knoll

Terri Knoll — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:04:04 +0000

There are perfectly rational reasons to believe that the Jewish and Arab lifestyles are inherently incompatible and should be given their own “spaces”.

Apartheid is apartheid no matter how you try to sugar coat it.

I WILL be stopped.

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:36:55 +0000

Sh: “Experiment with clowns too, perhaps.”

Dear Sh, good that you post under an assume name. A conspiracy to have clown parades in West Bank cities was thwarted, and foreign leftist clowns were barred entry to Israel. Bicyclist, cross-dressing girls, clowns — there seem to be no end of plagues (including Foot in Mouth disease in the Knesset).

David Friedlander, Esq: indeed, Lithuanian Haredim are not very compatible from Mizrahi Haredim, but should troops chase away Mizrahi Haredim from a Lithuanian Haredi street? (I am of course simplifying, the bitter divisions between Haredim are not easy to characterize.) And what are the perfectly rational reasons to forbid Jews from driving on Yom Kippur?

By: david friedlander, esq.

david friedlander, esq. — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:16:26 +0000

Separation, hafrada, is not “per se” racist/unjust. People have what’s called “freedom of association” or “freedom” in general. For example, a yoga club is not de factor discriminatory against non-yoga participants. If Jews and Arabs want to live separately than that’s there prerogative. That doesn’t mean that they believe the other to be inferior or deserve oppression. There are perfectly rational reasons to believe that the Jewish and Arab lifestyles are inherently incompatible and should be given their own “spaces”. Maybe the Jew doesn’t want to hear the muezzin and the Arab doesn’t want to abstain from driving on yom kippur. I agree with you though that a Palestinian state should probably be established to implement that, though.

By: sh

sh — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:38:00 +0000

“How is “solidarity” being demonstrated when the women are wearing exclusively Arab garb in a city that has had a Jewish presence for hundreds of generations?”
Squire Friedlander, Jews in exclusively Jewish garb have, in their turn, walked through places that have had a Christian/Muslim/pagan – in short non-Jewish – presence for hundreds of generations. Have you ever thought that had more of that presence walked those streets in solidarity with Jews, many catastrophes could have been averted?
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“Will you make a more complete photo report of the action?”
Piotr, I see that a video I saw elsewhere wasn’t posted here. I’m sure soon there’ll be others subtitled with English, but here’s one that settlers or their sympathizers swiftly posted on YouTube (hence its hysterical title). With Noa Shaindlinger’s interesting account as a guide, it’s easy to figure out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MEjtHcJ6bE&feature=player_embedded
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Thinking about it, imagine Palestinian women – who these days are forced to take circuitious routes that take some of them over the roofs to get in and out of their houses – leaving their houses by their front doors dressed in settler women’s headscarves and dresses over pants and repeating that walk down Shuhada Street. Might hafrada turn out to be a question of uniform like black tie or evening dress events? Experiment with clowns too perhaps. This could run and run before the Israeli government and its settler arm finally admit the intolerable to themselves: that hafrada is just a Hebrew word for Apartheid.

By: Karen Myers

Karen Myers — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:57:20 +0000

I’m so sorry that my government supports a state that conducts such repressive and evil treatment of innocent people! Congratulations on a great idea and action, I just wish it got some press in the U.S.

By: bettina

bettina — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:57:40 +0000

my respect. – and yes, this is absolutely absurd. the point was very well taken, actually, to dress in palestinian dress (which so far is not a crime yet) and being arrested just for that! i wonder what the judge in jerusalem made of those arrests? and then the soldiers arresting the male of the house! (who probably was not at all connected). really a successful action, though i would have wished for less violence

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:44:29 +0000

Artful.