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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 13:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I don&#039;t mean to imply that speculative finance actually rules the economies of today, or that it ruled those of Germany and Austria in the 19th and early 20th century. Speculative capital is always the most conspicuous element in a modern economy, and the most prone to scandal, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean it controls everything.
My own view is that the US, and to a lesser extent the other western economies, are primarily dependent on their armaments and oil industries to maintain a real (as opposed to fictitious) rate of return for their investing classes. The role of finance capitalism is to service these, which it does. The system as it now operates is often referred to as &#039;military keynesianism,&#039; because the government is the sole buyer of military goods, and also the largest end purchaser of petroleum products, and the function of the financial sector is to fund this. Real returns to private capital come from high oil prices and arms sales.
So there is in fact no verifiable Jewish or Zionist motivation in this; it&#039;s a macro-economic solution to the problem of the falling rate of profit that has nothing to do with any particular colonial project, but everything to do with imperialism as a whole. The bankers, whoever they are, have little scope for personal preferences in it. Israel could easily be destroyed in the forthcoming wars, which doesn&#039;t seem to bother the supposed &#039;zionist lobby&#039; very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t mean to imply that speculative finance actually rules the economies of today, or that it ruled those of Germany and Austria in the 19th and early 20th century. Speculative capital is always the most conspicuous element in a modern economy, and the most prone to scandal, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean it controls everything.<br />
My own view is that the US, and to a lesser extent the other western economies, are primarily dependent on their armaments and oil industries to maintain a real (as opposed to fictitious) rate of return for their investing classes. The role of finance capitalism is to service these, which it does. The system as it now operates is often referred to as &#8216;military keynesianism,&#8217; because the government is the sole buyer of military goods, and also the largest end purchaser of petroleum products, and the function of the financial sector is to fund this. Real returns to private capital come from high oil prices and arms sales.<br />
So there is in fact no verifiable Jewish or Zionist motivation in this; it&#8217;s a macro-economic solution to the problem of the falling rate of profit that has nothing to do with any particular colonial project, but everything to do with imperialism as a whole. The bankers, whoever they are, have little scope for personal preferences in it. Israel could easily be destroyed in the forthcoming wars, which doesn&#8217;t seem to bother the supposed &#8216;zionist lobby&#8217; very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/why-idf-soldiers-stand-idly-by-when-settlers-attack-palestinians/46770/comment-page-1/#comment-63397</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 11:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCSM: most of that is probably quite valid as social and economic history, but I think it shows a deficiency in the understanding of different philosophies of history, i.e. what history means. Specifically, you allow yourself to say:
&quot;If we look carefully at the late Hohenzollern and late Habsburg empires, we find that Jews had disproportionate and deleterious influence in economics and politics.&quot;
&#039;Disproportionate&#039; is probably a justified description, though many Jews are exceedingly nervous about admitting it, but &#039;deleterious&#039; is a pure value judgment based on unacknowledged and probably unexamined prejudices in the philosophy of history. Few genuine conservatives, but all liberals and most marxists, would say that speculative capital plays a progressive role in modern history.
However, I think the remarkable thing about the present moment is that speculative capital has ballooned out of all relation to real capital -- whoever the master bankers who may be responsible for that really are, I do not pretend to say, but it pleases them to be known to the world by such names as Goldman Sachs, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCSM: most of that is probably quite valid as social and economic history, but I think it shows a deficiency in the understanding of different philosophies of history, i.e. what history means. Specifically, you allow yourself to say:<br />
&#8220;If we look carefully at the late Hohenzollern and late Habsburg empires, we find that Jews had disproportionate and deleterious influence in economics and politics.&#8221;<br />
&#8216;Disproportionate&#8217; is probably a justified description, though many Jews are exceedingly nervous about admitting it, but &#8216;deleterious&#8217; is a pure value judgment based on unacknowledged and probably unexamined prejudices in the philosophy of history. Few genuine conservatives, but all liberals and most marxists, would say that speculative capital plays a progressive role in modern history.<br />
However, I think the remarkable thing about the present moment is that speculative capital has ballooned out of all relation to real capital &#8212; whoever the master bankers who may be responsible for that really are, I do not pretend to say, but it pleases them to be known to the world by such names as Goldman Sachs, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: JCSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 10:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The largest contributor to the Democratic Party, Haim Saban, tells us that he is a one issue sort of guy.
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I doubt that  he is unique within the hyper-wealthy International Zionist Political Economic Oligarchy.
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There is a reason that US law outlaws business conspiracy -- it is real.
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Guess what! A lot of the crimes associated with the S&amp;L crisis consisted of conspiracy, and 90% of those convicted were Jewish.
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Well, if Jews engage in a lot of business conspiracy to benefit themselves, why shouldn&#039;t they engage in a lot of political economic conspiracy to benefit themselves?
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Alan is just a vile piece of Zionist garbage using the whining Jewish Pavlov Trigger technique to manipulate people to shut off their brains whenever he screams anti-Semitism.
.
How the World&#039;s New Power Brokers Undermine Democracy, Government and the Free Market by Janine Wedel discusses the phenomenology of the new American Jewish elite and its power without explaining the historic roots.
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&quot;Ever evolving, the flex net doesn&#039;t have a hard boundary but rather a gravitational core.&quot;
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When we look carefully at Jewish communities in E. Europe from the standpoint of historical political economics, we invariably find that the members invariably had higher education and greater incomes than co-resident non-Jewish populations.
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The movement to the US took place among communities with (Jewish-relative) above average incomes and education. Poorer Jewish communities in regions described by Jews as characterized by pogroms (the reality was more complex) generally did not emigrate to the USA.
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In all cases Jewish communities were characterized by superior social networking based in historic Jewish trade and business practices.
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The common and mostly false narrative that Jews rose from poverty seems to be preferred by Jewish media gatekeepers and facilitators as well as by the non-Jews that they allow to rise.
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In fact if we look carefully at the late Hohenzollern and late Habsburg empires, we find that Jews had disproportionate and deleterious influence in economics and politics just as in the USA today.
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How does Israel fit in to this framework?
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Before 19th century secularization Jewish social networking and hence Jewish incomes were founded on a common faith and commitment to Jewish law (Halakhah) as a Universal Commercial Code. When these could no longer function as a sort of linch pin, the Jewish intelligentsia began to look for substitutes.
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In the end Zionism won out, and as Wedel points out (mostly) Jewish flexnets -- I prefer the phrase corrupt Jewish social networks -- are undermining the political system, the social fabric, the government, and the economy much worse than was ever the case in Germany and in Austria-Hungary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The largest contributor to the Democratic Party, Haim Saban, tells us that he is a one issue sort of guy.<br />
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I doubt that  he is unique within the hyper-wealthy International Zionist Political Economic Oligarchy.<br />
.<br />
There is a reason that US law outlaws business conspiracy &#8212; it is real.<br />
.<br />
Guess what! A lot of the crimes associated with the S&amp;L crisis consisted of conspiracy, and 90% of those convicted were Jewish.<br />
.<br />
Well, if Jews engage in a lot of business conspiracy to benefit themselves, why shouldn&#8217;t they engage in a lot of political economic conspiracy to benefit themselves?<br />
.<br />
Alan is just a vile piece of Zionist garbage using the whining Jewish Pavlov Trigger technique to manipulate people to shut off their brains whenever he screams anti-Semitism.<br />
.<br />
How the World&#8217;s New Power Brokers Undermine Democracy, Government and the Free Market by Janine Wedel discusses the phenomenology of the new American Jewish elite and its power without explaining the historic roots.<br />
.<br />
&#8220;Ever evolving, the flex net doesn&#8217;t have a hard boundary but rather a gravitational core.&#8221;<br />
.<br />
When we look carefully at Jewish communities in E. Europe from the standpoint of historical political economics, we invariably find that the members invariably had higher education and greater incomes than co-resident non-Jewish populations.<br />
.<br />
The movement to the US took place among communities with (Jewish-relative) above average incomes and education. Poorer Jewish communities in regions described by Jews as characterized by pogroms (the reality was more complex) generally did not emigrate to the USA.<br />
.<br />
In all cases Jewish communities were characterized by superior social networking based in historic Jewish trade and business practices.<br />
.<br />
The common and mostly false narrative that Jews rose from poverty seems to be preferred by Jewish media gatekeepers and facilitators as well as by the non-Jews that they allow to rise.<br />
.<br />
In fact if we look carefully at the late Hohenzollern and late Habsburg empires, we find that Jews had disproportionate and deleterious influence in economics and politics just as in the USA today.<br />
.<br />
How does Israel fit in to this framework?<br />
.<br />
Before 19th century secularization Jewish social networking and hence Jewish incomes were founded on a common faith and commitment to Jewish law (Halakhah) as a Universal Commercial Code. When these could no longer function as a sort of linch pin, the Jewish intelligentsia began to look for substitutes.<br />
.<br />
In the end Zionism won out, and as Wedel points out (mostly) Jewish flexnets &#8212; I prefer the phrase corrupt Jewish social networks &#8212; are undermining the political system, the social fabric, the government, and the economy much worse than was ever the case in Germany and in Austria-Hungary.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 10:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawyers are shysters.  I once saw the word shyster used to slander a Jew.  Ergo, saying shyster is antisemitic.  Amazing shyster logic!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyers are shysters.  I once saw the word shyster used to slander a Jew.  Ergo, saying shyster is antisemitic.  Amazing shyster logic!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 06:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the &quot;an elephant in the living room? I don&#039;t see any elephant. You must just be an elephant hater&quot; argument, you might want to take it up with Jeremy Ben-Ami of JStreet (real name Józef Beck):

US Congressmen Live in Fear of Pro-Israeli Intimidation
Chemi Shalev, Haaretz, May 17 2012

Many US senators and congressmen keep quiet and refrain from criticizing Israeli policies because they live in fear and are intimidated by pro-Israeli groups such as the Emergency Committee for Israel (ECI), according to J Street’s Jeremy Ben-Ami. Ben-Ami’s assertion came during a debate with Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, a director of ECI, held on Tuesday night at Manhattan’s B’nai Jeshurun Synagogue and moderated by Forward editor Jane Eisner. Ben Ami said that because of accusatory ECI ads in the NYT and other media outlets, members of Congress are afraid of being branded as anti-Israel and are deterred by the ramifications of voicing open criticism of Israeli policies. The crowd of 700-800, mainly from Manhattan’s Upper West Side, clearly favored Ben Ami.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the &#8220;an elephant in the living room? I don&#8217;t see any elephant. You must just be an elephant hater&#8221; argument, you might want to take it up with Jeremy Ben-Ami of JStreet (real name Józef Beck):</p>
<p>US Congressmen Live in Fear of Pro-Israeli Intimidation<br />
Chemi Shalev, Haaretz, May 17 2012</p>
<p>Many US senators and congressmen keep quiet and refrain from criticizing Israeli policies because they live in fear and are intimidated by pro-Israeli groups such as the Emergency Committee for Israel (ECI), according to J Street’s Jeremy Ben-Ami. Ben-Ami’s assertion came during a debate with Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, a director of ECI, held on Tuesday night at Manhattan’s B’nai Jeshurun Synagogue and moderated by Forward editor Jane Eisner. Ben Ami said that because of accusatory ECI ads in the NYT and other media outlets, members of Congress are afraid of being branded as anti-Israel and are deterred by the ramifications of voicing open criticism of Israeli policies. The crowd of 700-800, mainly from Manhattan’s Upper West Side, clearly favored Ben Ami.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 06:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berkowitz? Tell me more. I love conspiracy theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berkowitz? Tell me more. I love conspiracy theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;c) at least notably influenced by, if not actually dominated by, neocons who exploit their own Jewishness to paint Israel as a damsel in distress.
All this is too preposterous to last much longer.&quot;

Translation: the US is controlled by Jews who are more loyal to their tribe than to their country.

Thank you, 972, for providing a platform for the anti-Semites Rowan Berkowitz(his real name) and Joachim Martillo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;c) at least notably influenced by, if not actually dominated by, neocons who exploit their own Jewishness to paint Israel as a damsel in distress.<br />
All this is too preposterous to last much longer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: the US is controlled by Jews who are more loyal to their tribe than to their country.</p>
<p>Thank you, 972, for providing a platform for the anti-Semites Rowan Berkowitz(his real name) and Joachim Martillo.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as &quot;Zionist (Jewish Nazi) Israel&quot; according to JCSM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as &#8220;Zionist (Jewish Nazi) Israel&#8221; according to JCSM</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 18:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How far Antizionism and anti-Antisemitism are&quot;? This sounds like a &quot;fresh perspective&quot; alright. How far are they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How far Antizionism and anti-Antisemitism are&#8221;? This sounds like a &#8220;fresh perspective&#8221; alright. How far are they?</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>972mag - the platform for pure, traditional antisemitism as &quot;fresh, on-the-ground perspective and analysis of the rich and unexpected cultural and social life in this region
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Now that it&#039;s here, best leave it to show how far Antizionism and anti-Antisemitism are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>972mag &#8211; the platform for pure, traditional antisemitism as &#8220;fresh, on-the-ground perspective and analysis of the rich and unexpected cultural and social life in this region<br />
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Now that it&#8217;s here, best leave it to show how far Antizionism and anti-Antisemitism are</p>
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