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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/when-will-palestinians-become-human/54942/comment-page-1/#comment-77657</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me: not everyone refuses to see you as humans. I may be a proud Jew and supporter of Israel, but what some of my people do the Palestinians makes my blood boil. NOT IN MY NAME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me: not everyone refuses to see you as humans. I may be a proud Jew and supporter of Israel, but what some of my people do the Palestinians makes my blood boil. NOT IN MY NAME</p>
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		<title>By: emma</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/when-will-palestinians-become-human/54942/comment-page-1/#comment-77583</link>
		<dc:creator>emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once referred to the Palestinian citizens of Israel as a “demographic threat.”  That remark, is, of course, utterly racist.&quot; The Palestianians are not citizens of the State of Israel. The State of Israel is the ONLY Jewish State in the world and therefore it is definitely not &quot;utterly racist&quot; to say that having a Palestian majority in a Jewish State is a demographic threat. It is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once referred to the Palestinian citizens of Israel as a “demographic threat.”  That remark, is, of course, utterly racist.&#8221; The Palestianians are not citizens of the State of Israel. The State of Israel is the ONLY Jewish State in the world and therefore it is definitely not &#8220;utterly racist&#8221; to say that having a Palestian majority in a Jewish State is a demographic threat. It is.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I understand why Muslims like to point the finger / attack Israel. I think deep down they are ashamed of the atrocities going in the world - due to their own people&#039;s intolerance and hatefulness. The messed up part is they cry victim, all the while being the people we see on the news bombing and terrorizing everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I understand why Muslims like to point the finger / attack Israel. I think deep down they are ashamed of the atrocities going in the world &#8211; due to their own people&#8217;s intolerance and hatefulness. The messed up part is they cry victim, all the while being the people we see on the news bombing and terrorizing everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Franco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicious, simplistic anti-Semitic propaganda.  The comments from creeps babbling about the chosen people and Nazis really must make the author proud.  

Seriously 972, I know you want to give voice to Palestinians, but can&#039;t you find some one who can get past the doctored quotes and tendentious self pity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicious, simplistic anti-Semitic propaganda.  The comments from creeps babbling about the chosen people and Nazis really must make the author proud.  </p>
<p>Seriously 972, I know you want to give voice to Palestinians, but can&#8217;t you find some one who can get past the doctored quotes and tendentious self pity?</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kolumn 9 - Checkpoints have been around for many years. When Israel and apartheid South Africa were close allies in the 1970s, South African military came to Israel to learn how to improve their checkpoints so as to better control their black population. Looks like birds of a feather flocked together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kolumn 9 &#8211; Checkpoints have been around for many years. When Israel and apartheid South Africa were close allies in the 1970s, South African military came to Israel to learn how to improve their checkpoints so as to better control their black population. Looks like birds of a feather flocked together.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, K9, movement began to be restricted when the occupation began in the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, with a system of curfews, closures, and collective punishment. It began for Palestinians in Israel (supposedly equal citizens) in 1948. In Jaffa, Palestinians were removed from their homes, corralled into one neighbourhood (&#039;Ajami), and kept behind barbed wire for two years, used as a pool of cheap labour. It was a ghetto. That was the first and most obvious military restriction on movement. The restrictions weren&#039;t fully lifted until 1966.

These are the stories that you don&#039;t hear because there is already so much separation, within the Green Line as well as without, and most Israelis and overseas occupation supporters don&#039;t want to know - overseas occupation supporters because it damages the idea, and Israelis because thinking about these things is tough for them personally. You talk about suicide bombings, but you don&#039;t mention what was being done to Palestinians for decades before they began - and this is actually an illustration of Amer&#039;s point. When you think of death and suffering, you look first at Jewish life. The Palestinians who died before that you don&#039;t even know about. What is a Palestinian supposed to conclude from that other than, &quot;In their eyes we are not as human as they are&quot;?

Your justification of the arbitrariness of checkpoint behaviour is one that the soldiers themselves don&#039;t trouble to give, and the way you keep altering it to try and excuse or explain the soldiers&#039; every action suggests that no matter what they do, you&#039;ll find a reason to pass it. Interestingly they don&#039;t always try to excuse themselves with the same determination. There are enough testimonies out there from soldiers who have used the checkpoint to degrade and humiliate to show what drives it, and it&#039;s not special security intelligence. Try boredom, peer pressure, a sense of power, and difficulty saying no all shaken up in a nasty cocktail - all things that people in their late teens are particularly vulnerable to. The only thing missing from Amer&#039;s article is commentary on what this system can do to the people who administer it. It&#039;s not just about seeing Palestinian life as beneath Israeli life, but about seeing life in general as worth less than power. A sense I also get from your own comments sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, K9, movement began to be restricted when the occupation began in the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, with a system of curfews, closures, and collective punishment. It began for Palestinians in Israel (supposedly equal citizens) in 1948. In Jaffa, Palestinians were removed from their homes, corralled into one neighbourhood (&#8216;Ajami), and kept behind barbed wire for two years, used as a pool of cheap labour. It was a ghetto. That was the first and most obvious military restriction on movement. The restrictions weren&#8217;t fully lifted until 1966.</p>
<p>These are the stories that you don&#8217;t hear because there is already so much separation, within the Green Line as well as without, and most Israelis and overseas occupation supporters don&#8217;t want to know &#8211; overseas occupation supporters because it damages the idea, and Israelis because thinking about these things is tough for them personally. You talk about suicide bombings, but you don&#8217;t mention what was being done to Palestinians for decades before they began &#8211; and this is actually an illustration of Amer&#8217;s point. When you think of death and suffering, you look first at Jewish life. The Palestinians who died before that you don&#8217;t even know about. What is a Palestinian supposed to conclude from that other than, &#8220;In their eyes we are not as human as they are&#8221;?</p>
<p>Your justification of the arbitrariness of checkpoint behaviour is one that the soldiers themselves don&#8217;t trouble to give, and the way you keep altering it to try and excuse or explain the soldiers&#8217; every action suggests that no matter what they do, you&#8217;ll find a reason to pass it. Interestingly they don&#8217;t always try to excuse themselves with the same determination. There are enough testimonies out there from soldiers who have used the checkpoint to degrade and humiliate to show what drives it, and it&#8217;s not special security intelligence. Try boredom, peer pressure, a sense of power, and difficulty saying no all shaken up in a nasty cocktail &#8211; all things that people in their late teens are particularly vulnerable to. The only thing missing from Amer&#8217;s article is commentary on what this system can do to the people who administer it. It&#8217;s not just about seeing Palestinian life as beneath Israeli life, but about seeing life in general as worth less than power. A sense I also get from your own comments sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)Movement got restricted following Palestinian attacks on Israelis in the first intifada and as you choose to forget there was a wave of suicide bombings in 1993-1996. There was no restriction on movement between 1967 and 1987, which suggests your narrative is nonsense.
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2) Bypassing the checkpoint is something that is possible at the moment. In case of the likely renewal of hostilities I can assure you this will stop.
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3) See 2. No intelligence warnings, no need to do much checking. Given a renewal of violence you will see a very different behavior at the checkpoint.
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4) I would like Israel to separate from the Palestinians, which includes not employing the Palestinians in Israel and not allowing them access. This is what is normally done to foreigners who have a repeated tendency to take advantage of easy access in order to blow up your country&#039;s civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)Movement got restricted following Palestinian attacks on Israelis in the first intifada and as you choose to forget there was a wave of suicide bombings in 1993-1996. There was no restriction on movement between 1967 and 1987, which suggests your narrative is nonsense.<br />
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<p>2) Bypassing the checkpoint is something that is possible at the moment. In case of the likely renewal of hostilities I can assure you this will stop.<br />
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<p>3) See 2. No intelligence warnings, no need to do much checking. Given a renewal of violence you will see a very different behavior at the checkpoint.<br />
.</p>
<p>4) I would like Israel to separate from the Palestinians, which includes not employing the Palestinians in Israel and not allowing them access. This is what is normally done to foreigners who have a repeated tendency to take advantage of easy access in order to blow up your country&#8217;s civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: Prometheus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prometheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 10:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amer,
&quot;When will Palestinians become human?&quot;

Why won&#039;t you ask your Arab &quot;brethren&quot; the very same question?

Apparently you have no problem with dehumanization of Palestinians by the Ummah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amer,<br />
&#8220;When will Palestinians become human?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why won&#8217;t you ask your Arab &#8220;brethren&#8221; the very same question?</p>
<p>Apparently you have no problem with dehumanization of Palestinians by the Ummah.</p>
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		<title>By: Palestinian</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/when-will-palestinians-become-human/54942/comment-page-1/#comment-74162</link>
		<dc:creator>Palestinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 10:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupid article Aaror ? Because he mentioned several solid facts that show the ugly face of Israel ?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid article Aaror ? Because he mentioned several solid facts that show the ugly face of Israel ?!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicky, your statements are still being truncated in the &quot;more&quot; area..there is a word limit now.

A Palestinian comedian with a law degree.  No wonder K9 cannot understand you.

The institutionalized treatment of a targeted class creates acceptable racism, and racism usually does not see itself as arbitrarily racist.  If you want to prevent future bombing you need to understand the families, hopes, despairs and laughter of Palestinians.  That can&#039;t happen looking at them in crushingly long lines.  It is my view that what they have gone through, what has happened to them, how they respond, can tell us something reaching far beyond those long lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicky, your statements are still being truncated in the &#8220;more&#8221; area..there is a word limit now.</p>
<p>A Palestinian comedian with a law degree.  No wonder K9 cannot understand you.</p>
<p>The institutionalized treatment of a targeted class creates acceptable racism, and racism usually does not see itself as arbitrarily racist.  If you want to prevent future bombing you need to understand the families, hopes, despairs and laughter of Palestinians.  That can&#8217;t happen looking at them in crushingly long lines.  It is my view that what they have gone through, what has happened to them, how they respond, can tell us something reaching far beyond those long lines.</p>
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