16 comments for ”What about the Jews on the US boat to Gaza?“

    
  1. “I have come to understand that Zionism is simply incompatible with my version of Judaism.”

    We have come to understand that Ken Myers attitude is simply incompatible with Judaism in general!!!!

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  3. The “Jews” on this this Hamas mission were carefully vetted with an eye to their ethnic/religious conflict. The US boat was unarmed, but it is now very well known that other ships came well prepared for an intentionally violent confrontation with the Israel defense forces.

    These pathetic creatures are known as Kapos, such as were appointed by the Nazi overseers in WW2 era concentration camps to control and inflict misery upon their fellow Jews.

    Of course some of them may be faking this, as this floptilla was well and truly compromised from its’ earliest moments by spies for Israel and no doubt the CIA and probably Greece.

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  7. Not to be disparaging, but I wouldn’t characterize these Jewish activists as part of a “growing” trend. I would say they are a vibrant minority of individuals who visibly confront the “monopolization of Jewish identity.” Unless J Street is in on the Audacity of Hope. Can you fit a panel discussion on a flotilla? The lighting is good.

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  9. The attempt to undermine Israel’s right to self-defense = Epic fail
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/world/europe/07turkey.html

    “According to United Nations diplomats, the latest draft of the report asserts that Israel’s blockade of Gaza was legal”

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  11. Holden, your statements are unjust and unfair to both the Kapos and Activists.
    While some of the Kapos were criminals, most were chosen against their will; many have been “demoted” when not “effective”; many simply hoped that having a Jewish Kapo would be better than a – say – Ukrainian one.
    The activists chose their view and action, they weren’t coerced into them.
    I strongly disagree with them; some prefer to see the Jewish State disappear and some wish to see Jewishness merge into a future cosmopolitan human being. They are naive and look for excitement.
    They want to support a better world, as did many revolutionaries and communists, their ideas ending up with massacres.
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    In turn, as George Orwell described so well, these people are exploited by criminals.

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  13. Yes it seems the old ex Trotskyite ex hippie dead enders of Marin county have sent out the call to go home. The Ships of Fools is over. It just wasn’t worth it when no one wanted to pay massive attention to them.

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  15. So we’re agreed. The ‘activists’ like KAPOs are just ruthless survivors bent on surviving at all costs. Though I’m hard pressed to understand how the Flotards were threatened with death, in America, Holland, France.etc to drive them to take such extreme measures. I suppose in this case ‘survive’ and ‘scream from a soapbox’ are largely interchangeable.

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  17. Where can I get those T-Shirts..”Stay Human”,”Unarmed Civilian”..awsome…

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  19. Empress Trudy, I thought the Kapos were the Jews assigned the task of maintaining compliance to the regime in the name of survival. Is this not what you and your friends advocate on this blog? You have performed admirably in supporting the regime to keep out the unworthy Jews. Congratulations.

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  21. Mordechai Ben Yosef;

    And you are surely entitled to cringe in fear and anger at me, because you only outnumber me here 100:1.

    But more to the point, just because a bunch of old ex hippie Jews from San Fran and Berkeley can afford to spend their summer sailing the Med, is really neither here nor there. The whole “As-a-Jew” syndrome really does speak to the kind of legal defenses those KAPOs attempted at the Nuremberg trials. And to be fair, I’d try to weasel out the same way. But let’s just admit shall we, that that’s precisely what it is. I for one accept that raging antisemitism really does exist. At least the skin heads are refreshingly blunt about it. The “As-A-Jews” are simply uttering most of the same hate speech, except they hide behind the term ‘Zionist’. They don’t want all the Jews up the chimney, just the ‘Zionists’ and if you prod them you find that their definition of who a ‘Zionist’ is, is so broad that encompasses almost everyone to the right of Lev Bronstein.

    And why is that? Because the ‘As-a-Jews’ are hypocrites. They tell me that because Israel is mostly Jewish it should be held to an absurdly higher standard. While in the same breath because they are Jews they seemingly have much more moral latitude than anyone else.

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  23. Why is Steve Harper (Canada’s much hated Prime Minister who stole his elections just like Bushs)

    **SO** fanatical about supporting Isreal bombing innocent Palestinian civilians? What’s the… secret agenda at work here?

    http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=oQ2MY58RunM

    Canada does one billion dollars $$$$$$ of trade with Israel annually. Most of it military. (At the 5:30 mark).

    … the standard picture is that the U.S.(and by extension Canada) is an honest broker trying to bring together two recalcitrant opponents- Israel and Palestinian Authority.

    That’s just a charade.

    http://www.democracynow.or​g/2010/11/30/noam_chomsky_​wikileaks_cables_reveal_pr​ofoundSee More

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  25. Nadine, one must love you for your numbers!
    Canada has a GDP of 1.5T, trade with Arab countries at 9B, yet you claim that a 1B trade with Israel defines its policy.

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  27. Empress Trudy:
    I have no fear of you, nor anger. It seems it is you who fear the “old ex hippie Jews.” Raging antisemitism is nothing new. It has always existed. We have survived by maintaining Jewish values, not abandoning them. Israel is not a Jewish state because it is “mostly Jewish.” It formally declares itself a Jewish state.Is this a declaration of race or values? You suggest race trumps values (it should be held to an absurdly higher standard). This is the rationale of the kapo’s masters. The hypocrites are the “as a Zionists” who use this identity to justify their abandonment of Jewish values as well as international law. I’m not sure of the relevance of Lev Bronstein to this discussion. I do know his mastery of military tactics and strategy didn’t save him.

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  29. It’s clear all you want is the last word & I won’t give it to you.

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  31. I see, the Empress has no clothes.



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