Comments on: Weeks after prisoner strike ends, Israel not holding up its end of deal

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:28:40 +0000

@Greg, I only wanted to wish them the best of luck in their freely chosen endeavor.
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I am perfectly capable of conceiving state error or deliberate injustice but I care more about my bus not blowing up. If Israel has a policy that has it hold an innocent man because it means also holding someone that might blow up a bus, I accept this policy with open eyes and an only mildly weighted heart. No system is perfect and it is better in my opinion to err on the side of caution when it comes to defending the lives of your citizens than on the side of liberty for non-citizens.

By: Prometheus

Prometheus — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:37:13 +0000

Oh, my bad.
Should have added “whenever they have had a choice”
Not that I’m saying that the State of Israel ever kept to it’s end of the deal whenever could afford not to.

By: un2here

un2here — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:09:11 +0000

@Prometheus – Your level of provocative dishonesty is astonishing?!? In one word: Schalit! It’s even in the damned article …

By: Haggai Matar

Haggai Matar — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:36:43 +0000

@Prometheus – your question is fairly easy to answer. Here’s one: According to one deal, palestinian prisoners were to end their mass hunger strike, and Israel was to change certain aspects of prison life. The Palestinians kept their side of the deal, and the strike ended. As shown above – Israel did not. Good enough?

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:18:25 +0000

Prometheus,
You got the burden of proof so please tell us when Palestinians have kept violated deals?
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But just for the sake of argument, the deal 2008 in which Israel and Hamas accepted a ceasefire, where held by Hamas but violated by Israel.

By: Prometheus

Prometheus — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 11:25:23 +0000

@Greg – You have a very easy way to prove me wrong – just find 1 (one) case where the Palestinians kept to their end.

After you will ultimately fail, start thinking again.

By: Rafael

Rafael — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:41:10 +0000

Anyone expected anything different from this country of rogues and cheats? Palestinians were naive in believing non-violent activism is going to take them somewhere. Since when Israel follows deals? Force is the only thing Israel understands.

By: Greg Pollock

Greg Pollock — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 08:49:52 +0000

The Israeli security apparatus is not monolithic. Public agreements do not end contention within the apparatus. Failure of promise can be evidence of that contention.
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On a side note, reflecting on the comments of Prometheus and K9, above: In the US, police used to be able to fire at people running from them. The US Supreme Court ruled, 7-2, that such wounding or killing violated due process (a rather newly appointed Sandra Day O’Conner voted no; she shifted her jurisprudence later). Prome. and K9 make every him a them. Everything is racially, categorically, clear. They seem unable to conceive of State error, or deliberate injustice. Perhaps that High Court peition about the Open University will go nowhere. But, if the pleas keep coming, someday I think they will go somewhere. You see, I reallly do think Prome. and K9 will ultimately fail.

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:14:33 +0000

They should all go back on hunger strike and this time refuse any and all deals.

By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:30:08 +0000

Thats the classic tactic by Israel government,
The topic gets alot of news, Israel is silent in the beginning but it gets too intense. Israel finally respond and say the prisoners will get better conditions. The world is happy, so are news so are Israel because now attention wont be on Israel anymore. BUT. They backed down from its promise. This is the classic tactic that is always used. They simply cant be trusted.