Comments on: Watch: Jerusalem Day’s racist march, escorted by police

By: Mordechai ben yosef

Mordechai ben yosef — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 03:05:35 +0000

Saeed

I can’t tell if you are Palestinian or Arabic, or another one of the racist Israelis using an Arabic name to put ridiculous and provocative words into Palestinian mouths. To propose sending settlers back to Minsk and Kiev is the sane as telling Palestinians to leave and live in Jordan, Lebanon, etc where they have been abused, isolated, and attacked by local factions. Any viable solution will have to allow Jews and Palestinians to remain and return.

By: Saeed Hotary

Saeed Hotary — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 22:36:03 +0000

I agree with Mr Yosef. I cant wait for all these settlers to march back to Minsk and Kiev

By: mordechai ben yosef

mordechai ben yosef — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:06:40 +0000

Why is no one here acknowledging the Israeli implemented or instigated pogroms against Palestinians? We all aware of Deir Yassin which was one of several massacres against unarmed civilians in the 48 era. What about Sabra and Shatila ? The many incursions into Palestinian camps with primarily civilian casualties. Hebron 94? Cast Lead? The continuous assaults in Jerusalem and the occupied territory by Settler thugs with government protection against Palestinian men, women, children, property and homes. What about the destruction of non-Jewish Israeli citizens’ homes and property in the Negev and Lod? Jewish Israeli instigated pogroms are a reality, and the chants were not “idle speech.” The chants are hate speech, and in most western countries would be a crime.

By: max

max — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:06:14 +0000

Ilona, in every single country in the world you’ll find people venting their anger in ugly ways.
If you are a normative person, you already had some murderous thoughts crossing your mind, and you may have voiced them. You never meant to follow your thoughts and words with actions.
That’s how humans behave in most societies.
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Yet in some, words are followed by actions, with no control. Lynching happened in this region, recently. Calls for a repeat of the Hebron massacre have been heard, recently.
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Your statement “Correction: it is not YET a pogrom, but that’s where it’s going” is not only patently wrong (it’s not a correction but a suggestion), it’s also baseless.
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In general, I have the strong impression that many on the so-called left lack factual arguments and resort to prophecy (as in The Masses will Revolt). Ideology should not replace reason.

By: Ben Israel

Ben Israel — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:01:27 +0000

The Arab-Israeli conflict has been going on for over 90 years. None of the pogroms you are warning about have happened yet and are not on the verge of doing so. It is the Arabs who engage in mob violence and terrorism coming in the wake of genocidal antisemitic propaganda which is spewed out by the official HAMAS and Palestinian Authority official media. I suggest you direct your comments at them.

I know you Leftist/Progressives love comparing Jews to Nazis but all that does is show your lack of knowledge of history and your understanding of the current situation.
No Jewish school of any ideology educates its students to go out and kill Arabs randomly.

By: Ilona

Ilona — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:10:54 +0000

Ben Israel: “We see that it [pogroms] is a outbreak of murderous violence by a mob. Hundreds of Jews were killed in pogroms in Russia. Yelling a bad word at an Arab is NOT a pogrom. ”

Correction: it is not YET a pogrom, but that’s where it’s going. Just you wait another couple of years and you’ll see the first bona fide pogroms against Arabs in israel. As a reminder, the brown shirts also started with a few “bad words” yelled against the Jews – and the communists. They too started with a few 100, then it was 1000′s. Then it was 10,000. Then it became state sanctioned. Then it became “normalized”.

These are not just “hooligans” or splinter KKK groups. These marchers are the product of mainstream israeli high schools, of the religious nationalist variety, mostly. One of the chants was “I hate Arabs” and the arab form of “slaughter the Arabs”. The KKK, in its heyday wanted much less than that. Even they did not call for killing all the blacks. Or the “leftists”. They “only” wanted segregation, But these young marchers already practice segregation. What they now want is to get rid of the Arabs altogether. The only question on their mind – and probably those who defend them and excuse them here – is how to get away with it. These “white shirts” were well escorted – by police there and by lame excuses here.

Notice how most of them were wearing kippas and wrapped themselves in the star of david. These are symbols of Judaism. And this is what the majority of the religious schools teach. Why not take it for what it is instead of pretending it’s something else? These marchers drag all jewish people down – and they trample of Judaism as well, at least of the more civilized kind.

All while the good people of Tel Aviv sit in their coffee shops and send each other tzek-tzek tweets. I’d like to remind you, Ben israel, that this is what many good germans did too, back in 1932. They too waxed dismissively about “young hooligans”., even if they had no tweeter.

By: Matt S

Matt S — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:15:37 +0000

According to Loonwatch (http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/06/rightists-in-jerusalem-muhammad-is-dead-butcher-arabs/#comments), a pro-Muslim website, it was dozens chanting and the Arabs responded with violence. Perhaps that violence was why there was police protection.

By: max

max — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:19:47 +0000

Yashua, I guess you missed my negative reference to the slogans during the march
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Here’s what I found in m-w.com: anti-Semitism – “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group”; a comment there provides a correction based on ‘Webster’s Third New International Dictionary (Unabridged), re-printed in 2002′: “Anti-Semitism: (1) hostility toward Jews as a religious or racial minority group, often accompanied by social, political or economic discrimination (2) opposition to Zionism (3) sympathy for the opponents of Israel.”

By: Julian

Julian — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:51:11 +0000

Do we really need another failed arab state…there are 20 of them and even with gazillions from oil they cant achieve nada

By: yashua

yashua — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:26:55 +0000

max – i guess you missed the part of my comment that said “they both have terrible hate filled evil leaders. don’t try to make it seem like its ok that some israelis are doing evil stuff because hamas did it too.” this indicates that i am acknowledging that both sides have evil leadership.
you dictionary must be different than mine. m-w.com indicates that anti-semitism means anti semitic which means anti arab just as much as it means anti jewish. i agree it is not relevant to the conversation except that you used it strangely in your original post in a way that indicates you think hamas hates semitics when they only seem to hate jews. of course not all of hamas hates jews, just like not all israelis hate palestinians.
my grief is that you are defending this sickening behavior. approving of evil from one group while condemning it from another fits the dictionary definition of hypocrite. that’s the merriam webster definition anyway.
the video is israeli people trying to make palestinians mad by chanting what they would consider insults. is it so hard for you to say that is wrong for them to do?