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WATCH: IDF detains 5-year-old Palestinian in Hebron, blindfolds and handcuffs father (UPDATED)

This post has been updated with the IDF’s response (scroll down).

On Tuesday afternoon, seven IDF soldiers and an officer detained a five-year-old Palestinian child, Wadi’a Maswadeh, in Hebron after he threw a stone that according to the IDF, hit the tire of a car belonging to a settler. (The age of criminal responsibility is 12).

Palestinian 5-year old detained with father, blindfolded in Hebron (Photo: ISM)

The soldiers took him crying and screaming in an army jeep to his home where his mother said he cannot be taken anywhere before the father gets home. (Video footage by B’Tselem volunteers Manal al-Jabri and Imad Abu Shamsia is below.) Once the father, Karam, came home, the soldiers took him and Wadi’a to Checkpoint 56, where they blindfolded and handcuffed Karam. They waited for half an hour, until a lieutenant colonel from the DCO (District Coordination Office of Civil Administration) arrived. He asked the child why he threw stones and then turned to the soldiers and scolded them for detaining a child in front of the cameras. He reportedly told them that “from a Hasbara [PR] standpoint, you are causing damage,” and told them that when cameras are around, they should treat detainees “nicely.” They were eventually met by Palestinian police offers, transferred to their custody and freed shortly thereafter.

B’Tselem has written an urgent letter to IDF Judea and Samaria legal advisor Lt.-Col. Maurice Hirsch, demanding explanation for what appears to be the routine procedure of detaining children illegally. A child under the age of 12 is forbidden by law to be detained or arrested. Furthermore, according to B’Tselem spokesperson Sarit Michaeli, the IDF’s unequal and discriminatory conduct towards settler children who throw stones and Palestinian children who throw stones is clear from such an incident:

“We have extensive documentation of lawbreaking by young Israeli children in Hebron. Settler children under the age of criminal responsibility have often thrown stones at Palestinians with impunity. We are certainly not advocating that Israeli minors under the age of criminal responsibility are arrested – quite the contrary – but the discriminatory treatment is glaring.”

> Special coverage: Children under occupation 

I think what is most shocking about this incident – besides the very fact that soldiers detain a five-year old child, shocking and horrible in and of itself – is how calm everything is. There was no violence exerted by the soldiers (excluding the act of arrest itself), as is often seen in arrests in the West Bank. On the contrary, this was all done very calmly without laying a hand on the child.

The scene of Wadi’a and his father sitting and waiting as he is handcuffed and blindfolded appears to be almost normal; the soldiers, don’t seem to think there’s anything wrong with the scene they are actively engaged in; it doesn’t occur to them to question the actions; and Palestinian passersby are are not surprised by the scene as arrests of this kind are in fact part of the daily routine of occupation. Some of them try to document, as the camera is really their only tool of defense.

The following videos shows different times of the detention. The first shows the child being taken away by soldiers in a jeep without his father, screaming and crying (at about minute 3:00); the second shows the child being escorted to checkpoint with his father; the third shows the father and child waiting at Checkpoint 56.

Update (7:25 p.m., July 11):
The IDF Spokesperson’s office responded with following statement: “On Tuesday afternoon a minor was caught in the act of hurling rocks towards a public street in Hebron and, by doing so, endangering passers-by in the area. IDF soldiers intervened on the spot and accompanied the minor to his parents. From there he was passed on to the care of the Palestinian Security Forces, all the while accompanied by his parents. The child was not arrested and no charges were filed.”

Related:
Detained: Testimonies from Palestinian children imprisoned by Israel
WATCH: IDF detains Palestinian children and foreign citizen in Hebron
IDF soldiers to West Bank children: ‘We are the army, be careful if we see you’

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    1. The Trespasser

      Children have no right to throw stones, no matter what age they are.

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      • Menil

        A people under oppression have the right to resist their oppressor, and they have the right to choose their method of resistance. The ANC carried out many acts of armed resistance against apartheid South Africa, including car bombs against civilians, and the Palestinians have the same right until the Israeli apartheid regime is toppled.

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        • XYZ

          YOur priorities are completely arbitrary. You like Palestnian terrorism in a way similar to the way you may like chocolate ice cream or vanilla. I, on the other hand, believe Israel has the right to defend itself against Palestinian terrorism. Whose to say you are right and I am wrong? I prefer my value system to yours.

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          • XYZ, do you seriously consider this incident to be terrorism, with the army ‘defending’ Israel from a five-year-old boy? Is this a fair representation of your value system?

            I ask because I have noticed that while certain regular readers here can be guaranteed to pop up in comments to defend any army mistreatment of children, ranging from misconduct to outright torture, you are usually conspicuous by your absence in the comment threads on those posts. I had thought that this meant you were not at ease with the policies. Do you support them?

            Or, to put the question another way, would you have seen it as natural for an army to detain one of your children when they were five, a choice on a par with ice cream preference?

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          • The Trespasser

            The question is what have higher priority – the right of children to throw stones, or the duty of army to prevent it.

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          • Menil

            My priorities aren’t arbitrary, but are based on Israel’s security concerns and interests. The idea of a secular, liberal democracy has proven itself as the most efficient way to run a country. The occupation in Hebron has nothing to do with that. It has to do with a bunch of religious fundamentalists who imagine that the place is “holy” and that they must control it. Nobody in the West gives a sh*t about their monotheistic fantasies. Get out of Hebron immediately and unilaterally decide on your borders, taking into account security concerns and nothing more, and then we’ll talk.

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          • The Trespasser

            >The idea of a secular, liberal democracy has proven itself as the most efficient way to run a country.

            Nonsense. Just nonsense.

            >Nobody in the West gives a sh*t about their monotheistic fantasies.

            More nonsense.

            >Get out of Hebron immediately

            Maybe, Muslims should get out of Hebron immediately?

            >and unilaterally decide on your borders, taking into account security concerns and nothing more, and then we’ll talk.

            More nonsense. Borders can’t be decided “unilaterally”.

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        • Lior

          It is an insult to the name and meory of Nelson MAndela to compare SA Apartheid to Israel. Funny how Arabs I know are concerned that if there is a Pal State they will prefer to be on the Israeli side of the border. The west bank was called that because it was the West Bank of JORDAN> JOrdan gave the land up. There could be a solution tommorrow but people like you like to slander and dont know the reality on the ground there need to be one state and the west bank needs to be a terrritory that is administered by Arabs. Then there could be free travel between areas. no more roadblocks and cooperation in many joint ventures from agriculture to tourism. But peopl like you just want to see the death and destruction of Jews. No matter where they live.

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          • Menil

            I’m an Israeli. I served 3 years in the Israeli army (8200). Only I don’t support Kahane. I’m a Western progressive and my goal is to improve Israel by turning it into a secular, liberal democracy. This means not only ending the occupation but also all other means of racist oppression, including the “law of return”, “community settlements” in the Galilee, and the Judaization of the Negev.

            So unless your “solution” includes that too, then you really have a misunderstanding of the progressive Western goals with regard to Israel. Ending the occupation in merely the means. The goal is a liberal democracy without any more racism or religious oppression. A state for all its citizens, like the US, Canada, or any other Western state.

            Until then, us progressive Israelis will promote boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel.

            ובחורבן הציונות ננוחם.

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          • The Trespasser

            So much bullshit.
            *facepalm*
            What were you doing at 8200? Cooking? Cleaning? Obviously, no person in sane mind would let you near the equipment.

            >I’m an Israeli… I’m a Western progressive

            These are mutually exclusive. Israel is not on the West.

            >and my goalis to improve Israel by turning it into a secular, liberal democracy.

            Wow.

            >This means not only ending the occupation

            Define “occupation. When did it started? 1948? 1949? 1967?

            >but also all other means of racist oppression, including the “law of return”, “community settlements” in the Galilee, and the Judaization of the Negev.

            Wow. So Germany with its “law of return” is not democracy now. Interesting approach. And how exactly community settlemets represent “racist oppression”? “Judaization of Negev” being “racist oppression” is particularly interesting. Jews have no right to move to Negev?

            >So unless your “solution” includes that too, then you really have a misunderstanding of the progressive Western goals with regard to Israel.

            The “Progressive Western goals” have a grave misunderstanding of real-life conditions in Middle East in general and in Israel in particular.

            >The goal is a liberal democracy without any more racism or religious oppression. A state for all its citizens, like the US, Canada, or any other Western state.

            State where large part of population would kill their female relatives for dating with “wrong” males can not be a “liberal democracy”

            >Until then, us progressive Israelis will promote boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel.

            It seems that now it is about a time that us, non-progressive Israelis, should start to think about measures against “progressive” Israelis.

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          • Menil

            My military past is not that relevant here, but I was taught Arabic and served in a position where I was exposed to intelligence material day-in, day-out, right from the source. But don’t believe what I say, watch “The Gatekeepers” and hear what the former heads of the Shin Bet have to say about the occupation, and they were exposed to the same intelligence information.

            As to your honesty about seeing a contradiction between Israel and the West. Great. That’s exactly what the current situation is, and that’s what we’re struggling to change.

            You should also check up on what “judaization” means. It doesn’t mean Jews settling somewhere, but the state preferring a certain group over others when it comes to land allocation and housing. Imagine that the State of New York decided that there are too many Jews in NYC and it’s time to “christianize” it by giving benefits to Christians who would move there, while evacuating Jews who already live there. I wonder what the ADL’s response would be. I wonder what Israel’s response would be.

            Our goals are completely within the frame of what’s legitimate in a democracy, and you non-progressives trying to limit us would only reveal your true interest – you prefer an arbitrary value (a state for some religious cult that’s spread out around the world) over a secular democracy. Well, tough. If you want to convince us that we’re wrong, let’s see some research or evidence that shows that the Israeli way of doing things is more efficient that the Western way of doing things.

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          • The Trespasser

            >… watch “The Gatekeepers” and hear what the former heads of the Shin Bet have to say about the occupation, and they were exposed to the same intelligence information.

            I have more than enough 1st hand experience with former and current agents of mentioned service(s) to know well enough how much trust one should invest in their words. I’ll watch the movie, tho.

            >As to your honesty about seeing a contradiction between Israel and the West. Great. That’s exactly what the current situation is, and that’s what we’re struggling to change.

            Struggling to change Israel without changing its surrounding and its population is pointless and counterproductive.

            >Imagine that the State of New York decided that there are too many Jews in NYC and it’s time to “christianize” it by giving benefits to Christians who would move there, while evacuating Jews who already live there. I wonder what the ADL’s response would be. I wonder what Israel’s response would be.

            If NYC Jews would not pay ANY taxes at all, practice polygamy and take part in drug trafficing and other crimes, hardly there would be any harsh response.

            >Our goals are completely within the frame of what’s legitimate in a democracy

            Exactly anti-progressives’ goals as would be.

            >and you non-progressives trying to limit us would only reveal your true interest – you prefer an arbitrary value (a state for some religious cult that’s spread out around the world) over a secular democracy.

            Secular democracy is not more democratic than non-secular democracy.

            >Well, tough. If you want to convince us that we’re wrong, let’s see some research or evidence that shows that the Israeli way of doing things is more efficient that the Western way of doing things.

            Define “western” and I’ll provide you with evidence.

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          • Carl

            That would be great. Maybe you could describe it with bullet points.

            Terse, angry, bullet points.

            Thanks.

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          • Dario Galiero

            Well done if only people understand. .

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          • Lior

            You are deluded. You want utopia but you need to come back to planet earth. I served for twenty years in the US Army. Read http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/22/why-israel-is-not-an-apartheid-state.html
            and http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Muslim-writer-touts-Israeli-tolerance-of-minorities-314241 also. http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Muslim-writer-touts-Israeli-tolerance-of-minorities-314241 finally http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4383715,00.html

            Then while I respect all opiions I am also aware of the propoganda war being fought. Show more outrage ad actively work for the end of the Syrian civil war that has claimed over 10k murdered and tortured kids then we can have real dialogue. The real enemy is not ISrael, Arabs, whether Christions or Muslims. The real enemy are those that have purposely kept palestinians in their lands without rights thus creating perpetual refugees. Lets boycot all Russion and Chinese goods and then when they finally vote to condemm the real massacres that are occuring in Syria we can tlk. Until then put down the bong dude.

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          • Tzila

            Western democracy who smells eastern odors ? When you say Western democracy you need to add these two words : ” also christian “who always are put together,and then your contradiction is more than evident,but besides that ,I do applause your critical conciousness of this tremendous situation of occupation and military practises who remind us other times in recent shameful European history

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          • Lior

            Yea cause the muslims never invaded all of north Africa. ASk the Berbers or the Tauregs. WHat about the Muslim invasion of spain and eastern europe. PIck up a book on subjective history and piut down Mein Kampf

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        • The Trespasser

          >A people under oppression have the right to resist their oppressor, and they have the right to choose their method of resistance.

          Top-grade nonsense on multiple levels.

          1 – Define “people”.
          2 – Define “oppresion”. Until 1948 Jews were not oppressing Arabs, yet numerous massacres have occured.
          3 – To be legitimate, any “resistance” should have a legitimate goal. In this particular case, the goal of “resistance” is ethnic cleansing of Jews, therefore the “resistance” is not legitimate.
          4 – If “people” have the right to choose their method of “resistance”, than “oppressor” have the right to choose methods of oppression.
          5 – In order to retain protected status, children should not take part in “resistance”.

          >The ANC carried out many acts of armed resistance against apartheid South Africa, including car bombs against civilians, and the Palestinians have the same right until the Israeli apartheid regime is toppled.

          More nonsense.
          1 – In South Africa, violence was started by Whites, who remained “oppressors”; in Palestine, violence was started by Arabs, who turned into “oppressed”
          2 – ANC resorted to violence to shake off oppression; Arabs resorted to violence LONG before there was an oppression of any kind
          3 – There is no “apartheid” in Israel, despite what many sick individuals would like to think. Population of WB and Gaza are not citizens of the state.
          4 – It is well-know that the finite goal of Palestinian Arab struggle is extermination of the Jewish State, which makes the struggle illigetimate and gives no “right” or any kind to attack Israeli soldiers, police or civilians.

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    2. sh

      But children do throw stones, often and not only in Palestine or Israel. That does not give a military that is not allowed to detain children under 12 for questioning the right to even attempt take a 5-year-old away from his family. The apparent intention was to hand him over to the Palestinian police.

      After feeling thoroughly sick for a couple of hours I started to imagine what we would be capable of doing to children if times were different and cameras were still the big clunky things that didn’t lend themselves to being lugged around while shopping or repairing a car on the street.

      And then I wondered whether history would have been different if everyone who once lived under other cruel regimes had possessed smartphones or B’tselem cameras and been able to immediately share persecutions they witnessed with the entire world on a Facebook.

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      • The Trespasser

        >But children do throw stones, often and not only in Palestine or Israel.

        Also, children sometimes murder other children. So what? Underage criminals are just that – criminals.

        >That does not give a military, that is not allowed to detain children under 12 for questioning, the right to even attempt take a 5-year-old away from his family.

        I had missed the part where the army attempted to take the child away from his family. On the contrary, the child was taken to his family home.

        >And then I wondered whether history would have been different if everyone who once lived under other cruel regimes had possessed smartphones or B’tselem cameras and been able to immediately share persecutions they witnessed with the entire world on a Facebook.

        Indeed, if all acts of persecution and violence on both sides would be recorded and shared, it might have had changed the way events are unfolding, but not quite as you are imagining.

        Few days ago I was wintess to a bewildering sight – four or five East Jerusalmites came to kick the living shit out of their friend on accusation that he had stolen less than $100 from one of them, so my friends – employers of the victim – had to intervene to save him. The funniest part is that the guy did not steal anything, but nonetheless was beaten, his sunglasses were broken and his shirt was torn.

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    3. Kolumn9

      I don’t understand the problem. The child threw stones. The soldiers took the child to his parents’ house. They didn’t take him alone in the jeep. He had someone who served as his guardian the whole time. The soldiers used no violence whatsoever. Yes, the child was crying. Children tend to do that when they get caught doing something naughty and are being taken to see their parents. Anywhere else the police would have done the same thing. Here the army acts as the police force.

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      • A police force would be intergrated with the community. It would be subject to judicial review and civilian complaint. Its primary mission would not be to pacify through fear. It would not burst into homes late at night without warrant or arrest with impunity. It would not close shops, detrain land, forbid movement as a matter of long term policy.

        The father brought the child to the army outpost, as ordered. For which he was blindfolded, his child having to stand by him in that condition. A police force does not do that, and the child may well have had similar observations before this incident. According to Mairav’s report, the soldiers were crticized not for their actions as such, but for doing them while filmed. “Looks bad for us” is not identical to “this is wrong.”

        Nice Kafka throw though, K9, nice Kafka throw.

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        • Kolumn9

          If you live in or near any major city in the US you know that the police force is not always integrated into the community. You would also know that the kind of complaints you list are not uncommon complaints of abuse of power by the police as indeed is the claim that the job of the police is to pacify through fear. You would also know that the primary job of the police is to maintain order.

          The rest of it – yes, it would have happened in a very similar fashion in the US if a child was caught throwing stones by the police. He would be taken by the police, crying and screaming, to his parents or the police station where the parents would have been the recipients of a stern talk.

          If this is what people find so upsetting about the Israeli army then Israeli soldiers are practically angels compared to what other occupation armies have done throughout the ages.

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          • Joe

            I am damn sure that no policeman in the UK would arrest/detain a five year old for throwing stones. Stop talking shit – no five year old would have the strength to cause a policeman injury, never mind a heavily armed soldier.

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          • Kolumn9

            Yeah, if a 5 year old was throwing stones at a police officer next to your house the police officer would take the kid to meet his parents and have a stern chat with them. You have never had the police talk with your parents?

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          • Lior

            Thats because in the UK you take it uo the backside from Muslims. It took you 10 years to extradite a confessed MUslim Cleric. Yea and in the US you wont see a muslim behead a soldier on the street. Why? The UK like your famous LAwrence are desert loving sodomites

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          • Shame on you.

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          • You well know that in the US there is judicial review and that the police understand the courts can intervene. You also know that in the US civilian complaints have evolved to have impact (not always, of course, but often) and that once again this moderates the training and response of police. And, lastly, you well know that no US police force is going to blindfold a parent simply for being present as ordered.

            You ignored each of these points because, for you, the populace is to do exactly as it is told. But keep trying; maybe the facts will agree with you someday.

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          • Kolumn9

            You must have been hoping that I would read your mind rather than read what you wrote. You wrote about US police forces being integrated into their communities. I pointed out that based on personal experience I know this to be BS. You put up other complaints about the IDF actions. I pointed out that the same complaints have been raised about police forces elsewhere.

            No you argue that there is judicial review in the US. I have read enough complaints against police forces in the US to know that this judicial review which you hold on to so dearly doesn’t get quite as much respect as you seem to grant it. Speaking of which, there is also a judicial review of IDF actions in the West Bank and the IDF understands that the courts can intervene and this moderates the training and the response of the IDF. What was your point again?

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        • Levi Hogan

          Someone making things up as they go along here.

          He was taken to his home with his father.

          The PA’s Police department took over from there.

          This story is a big as lie.

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      • Palestinian/American

        1st off for those who have never lived in Palestine your negative feed back is nothing more then ignorance. There Taking a 5 year old away from his parents and handcuffing/Blindfolding his Father. And laughing about it. This is something that happens DAILY and even worse things happen to us Palestinians that THE CAMERAS ARE NOT ALWAYS THERE TO CATCH. So for you ignorant people who think this is OK keep watching your CNN and believe the BS they fill your head with. Us Palestinians are living in this turmoil and HELL everyday we are victims and yet you say we’re the ones who are wrong?

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    4. Laurent Szyster

      Let me help you understand.

      Repeat after me (and Ami Kaufman) a hundred times: “One child’s detention in Hebron embodies the sickness of an entire regime”.

      If you still don’t understand, repeat after me (and Mairav Zonszein) a hundred times: “What is most shocking about this incident is how calm everything is”.

      Don’t you see now that Zionists like to make little children cry, it’s in their racist regime’s nature !

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      • Joe

        I have to say that I’m uncomfortable with the suggestion that this is a function of Zionism.

        To me, this is a function of a highly militarised society which uses a ‘mallet to crack an egg’ with regard to the ‘other’. That they believe in Zionism is a bit beside the point in a lot of ways.

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        • Joe

          I don’t regard Zionism as racist in and of itself – for it is just a form of nationalism. The problem occurs, as with all forms of nationalism, when the ideology is used to negate the humanity of undesirables. Whilst that might be present in Zionism, I’d say it is a lot less obvious than in a lot of other nationalist beliefs. That we’ve come to this just shows how far the dehumanising has gone.

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      • Lior

        Maariv’s noted columnist, Ben Dror Yemini, wrote about the incident, which predictably received much attention in Israeli and foreign media: “On the day in which an Israeli soldier detained a Palestinian boy, another 100 people were killed in Syria, most of them innocents. That is the daily average. It is possible that some ‘fighter’ from one of the jihadist groups beheaded three women. In Nigeria, Somalia or Mali, dozens of children were slaughtered, or died of hunger.

        “But there is a great difference between all of those horrors and the child who was detained in Hevron,” Yemini noted. “130,000 children died of starvation in Somalia because the jihadists decided not to transfer food to them. The story hardly reached the world’s press, and even when it did, the coverage was marginal.”

        “As far as human rights or children’s rights are concerned,” he explained, “the problem is that the story about the child detained in Hevron will receive much more coverage than the starving to death of 130,000 children.” The overabundance of cameras recording every single misstep by the IDF therefore causes a moral aberration, he added.

        Hypocrites all of you. Oh a kid was crying. What a shocking stop the preses event. Never go to a mall you will be outraged by all the kids on the floor crying for the many reasons they do.

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        • Tzila

          Mr Lior, the relativism that you employ dosen’t excuse neither be related to other problems .
          Occupation is occupation and in order to perpetuate it against other people will,it
          does all kind of things that you seem to ignore or minimise

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    5. Mark

      According to Ynet, the father was ccharged, and has to pay a fine of equivalent to 7,000 dollars:

      “At the Palestinian police station: “They just asked us questions and eventually fined us for 5,000 dinar (roughly $7,000) for the kid’s rock throwing,” the father repeated. ”

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4403964,00.html

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      • Eliza

        Yes, I also read that the father had received a substantial fine from the Palestinian police. Can this be verified by anyone? If true, it gives credence to the notion that the PA merely serves Israeli needs. Time for it to be dissolved and for Israel incur the real financial and diplomatic costs of maintaining its occupation.

        One of the real evils in this incident is the blindfolding of the father – after he had co-operated and walked (unblindfolded) with son in hand to the checkpoint, the brave young lads of the IDF blindfold him. I assume this is done as part of a ritualistic unquestioned humiliation necessary so the son knows that his parents, his protectors, are actually powerless against the Israeli settlers and the IDF.

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    6. Paul Larudee

      You say that the age of legal responsibility is 12. That may be the case for Palestinians, but for Israelis it’s at least 90, because Shimon Peres has not yet reached it.

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      • Shira

        Paul, what responsibility do you and the ISM have for encouraging & using 5 year old children like this who “resist” against the Jewish monkeys and pigs?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyRLyXCj3Lg

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    7. I think this statement from B’tselem in the above post has some relevance: “We have extensive documentation of lawbreaking by young Israeli children in Hebron. Settler children under the age of criminal responsibility have often thrown stones at Palestinians with impunity. We are certainly not advocating that Israeli minors under the age of criminal responsibility are arrested – quite the contrary – but the discriminatory treatment is glaring.” The children of Hebron settlers are not known for stoning cars, but for stoning people. Now imagine if a 5-year-old child of Hebron settlers threw a rock at a Palestinian car, and for that got detained by a half-dozen IDF soldiers who then bound and blindfolded his father. You can’t imagine it, because it can’t be imagined. You people defending what the IDF did should be ashamed of yourselves. Problem is, that can’t be imagined, either.

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      • Joe

        Sadly, I don’t think that comparison is particularly helpful.

        If I am on the beach and I see a small child throw a stone at a policeman, I don’t expect him to be manhandled away – even if adults regularly or routinely throw stones at local policemen. It doesn’t matter who they are – Israeli, settler, Palestinian or anyone else.

        What the army do or don’t do to settlers is beside the point – they clearly do this to children. And clearly have no foresight as to the long-term effects. Do they want to breed resentment?

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        • Kolumn9

          If you are on the side of a road and you see a small child throwing stones at passing cars, what do you exactly expect to happen?

          I’ve been hearing the resentment argument for quite some time and at some point it seizes to be convincing. When a society reaches a point where almost a majority supports the murder of Israeli civilians within the green line and thinks people that blow up Israeli civilians on buses and restaurants are heroes there is really no further that resentment can go.

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          • Joe

            I suspect in most circumstances, a recognised police force would visit parents to discuss their children’s behaviour.

            Suggesting that ‘any police force’ would pick up a 5-year old child, blindfold his father and impose a large fine is living in cloud cuckoo land.

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          • Kolumn9

            Wait, just so I understand. You believe that the police force of your city would allow the child to continue throwing rocks at passing cars while making their way to the child’s house to discuss the child’s behavior with their parents?

            Which one of us is in cloud cuckoo land?

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          • Joe

            Look chum, there is a vast difference between scary a child shitless and leaving him to do it again.

            Funnily enough, British police don’t take kindly to bad behaviour by children. But you don’t see them pulling this kind of stunt.

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          • Joe

            I’ve looked for articles about the response of stone throwing by children of the British police.

            And, what do you know, here is one example of a 10 year old.

            Can you spot the difference?

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          • Kolumn9

            Did you read the article? It suggests that in England a 10 year old child can be criminally prosecuted for throwing stones? That is just barbaric don’t you think?

            In this case the child was not even arrested. He was taken to his parents.

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      • Kolumn9

        The misbehaving child was taken by the legal authorities to his parents. This is an act that would be done by any police force in the world.

        The blindfolding and handcuffing of the father is the strange part, but that isn’t what you people are focused on because you are too busy trying to create a mountain out of a molehill.

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        • sh

          I focused on it. There’s no reasonable explanation for blindfolding the father.

          But there’s something wrong with your version of events. He was taken to his parents, yes, but they didn’t leave him there and lecture his parents. They tried to take him away before his father arrived but the older boy wouldn’t let go of his hand. And when the father showed up, they insisted on taking the boy away again, with the father whom they then blindfolded. The child’ll be a real mess for years; all you who don’t see anything wrong with what happened do know that, right?

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          • Kolumn9

            But that isn’t what happened, is it? The army took the child to his parents house. The father arrived home and accompanied the child to the Israeli police station/military base.

            Still don’t get the issue. Would the police officers in most cities in the world not have picked up the child and taken him to his parent’s house for a talk with the parents?

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          • No, K9, you don’t get it: it is the blindfoldng and handcuffing without cause, leaving the child standing by his blindfolded parent. The father obeyed the soldiers and was treated so anyway. The soldiers are scolded based on public relations, not policy violation. That the soldiers thought they could do it at all shows they are far from a police force.

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          • Kolumn9

            So you are saying this really has nothing at all to do with the child. I get it now. You see when all these articles were going on and on about the 5-year old I thought that is what they were focusing on. But I was mistaken. They were perfectly fine with the way the child was treated and were not singling Israel out unfairly. They were concerned with the parent being blindfolded the whole time. My mistake. Apologies.

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          • sh

            It has everything to do with the child, K9. The child’s father has his hands cuffed together and so cannot calm or stroke the child. The child cannot look for reassurance in the eyes of his father either because they are hidden by the blindfold. Is he to guard his father from harm or is his father going to be able to guard him from harm? A nice dilemma for nightmares and flashbacks for years to come. Did you really, truly need this explanation?

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          • The Trespasser

            A rather simple dilemma.

            Do not throw stones or face consequences.

            By the way, your beloved international law does not say that parents of underage criminals can not be oppressed.

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          • Noevil9

            SH, you just named exactly what this soldiers have been instructed to carry on as their procedure in dealing with the oppressed and occupied. Intimidation, punishment, show of force, no mercy ,psychological intimidation specially toward the children as a new generations of the subjected occupied. if one traces the Israeli policies history, one will find that israel almost does not need an excuse to implement those policies, and if the law interfere, they are the quickest to change their law to accommodate their policies, and then break what could not be changed. always the bottom line, make the Palestinians pay. All the rest of lame excuses ,is just plain BS !

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    8. BaladiAkka48

      In the documentary “Welcome to Hebron” (with Yehoudah Shaul among others) we see settler kids dumping rocks from the rooftops down into the street. From min 1:15
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9nWCvDG8NE
      It happens all the time, Jewish settlers, adults and kids, throwung stones at Palestinians, often next to Israeli soldiers who rarely intervene. After all they are there to protect the settlers , and to make life so hard for the native Palestinians that they eventually leave.

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    9. Noevil9

      The tragedy here is not just in the way that six or seven scary israeli soldiers(due to their past behavior and what they represent to the child and other Palestinians) have carried on in terrifying this child and scaring him for life( as it proven to be the policy of the Zionist state in punishing the population into submission) but its the appaulling statements and comments in trying to rationalize this criminal behavior what is shocking. This kind of rationalization to all israeli crimes has striped Israel and all its deffenders of any ligitimacy and credibility. So, all you Israel/Zionist deffenders, keep it up you are doing a great job of disservice and a great display of lack of ethics, intigrity and humanity.

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