Comments on: WATCH: ELAL, Israel’s national airline, now part of state PR efforts http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Wed, 22 May 2013 04:03:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Rehmat http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-67316 Rehmat Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:59:08 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-67316 The staff of Israel’s national airline El Al is known for spying for entity’s secret police, the Shin Bet. In 2009, its former employee Jonathan Garb, a South African Jewish citizen who received his military training in Israel – admitted when South African government expelled two of El Al for spying on Blacks and Muslim passengers at Johannesburg international airport. Earlier, El Al staff had helped Israeli Mossad in kidnapping and smuggling Zionazi leader, Adolph Eichmann, from Argentina to Israel where he was executed in 1961 as result of a Jewish kangroo-trail. http://rehmat1.com/2011/03/16/hannah-arendt-and-eichmanns-show-trail/ The staff of Israel’s national airline El Al is known for spying for entity’s secret police, the Shin Bet. In 2009, its former employee Jonathan Garb, a South African Jewish citizen who received his military training in Israel – admitted when South African government expelled two of El Al for spying on Blacks and Muslim passengers at Johannesburg international airport.

Earlier, El Al staff had helped Israeli Mossad in kidnapping and smuggling Zionazi leader, Adolph Eichmann, from Argentina to Israel where he was executed in 1961 as result of a Jewish kangroo-trail.

http://rehmat1.com/2011/03/16/hannah-arendt-and-eichmanns-show-trail/

]]> By: Handala http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-67195 Handala Sun, 01 Jul 2012 07:35:25 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-67195 @XYZ: It's very difficult (and actually impossible) to view Israel without the occupation-lens simply because the country was founded on occupation and displacement! It's like asking to jump into a pool without getting wet... @XYZ:
It’s very difficult (and actually impossible) to view Israel without the occupation-lens simply because the country was founded on occupation and displacement! It’s like asking to jump into a pool without getting wet…

]]> By: Kibbutznik http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-67008 Kibbutznik Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:42:21 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-67008 " and @SH: Nice! We should start a copywriting company together! " . as long as sh has a superior position to you Mairav and as long as you dont question her opinions or decisions or her religion you will get on fine . a word of warning , the internet is deceptive as is sh , she is a control freak ...trust her and you will be bitterly disappointed as I and my family learnt only to well . ” and @SH: Nice! We should start a copywriting company together! ”
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as long as sh has a superior position to you Mairav and as long as you dont question her opinions or decisions or her religion you will get on fine .
a word of warning , the internet is deceptive as is sh , she is a control freak …trust her and you will be bitterly disappointed as I and my family learnt only to well .

]]> By: Piotr Berman http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-67001 Piotr Berman Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:29:23 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-67001 Interesting video. Is it "occupation washing" or "reflecting the occupation"? Is there anything missing among the testifying and in the testimonies? As a momentary digression, I read about difficulties Israel faces in generating kosher electricity for Saturday use, because there are no non-Jews working in the power stations that could assure that a user of electricity on Saturday is not using Jewish Shabbat breaking labor. Various solutions were considered except the obvious one (surely there must be non-Jews in Israel, aren't they?) Is ElAl another "Jew only" company? -------- Greetings our dearest passengers! We hope that you will enjoy your visit to our country, but just in case, would you be deported upon landing at Ben Gurion International, we will tell you about our country now. .... Interesting video. Is it “occupation washing” or “reflecting the occupation”? Is there anything missing among the testifying and in the testimonies?

As a momentary digression, I read about difficulties Israel faces in generating kosher electricity for Saturday use, because there are no non-Jews working in the power stations that could assure that a user of electricity on Saturday is not using Jewish Shabbat breaking labor. Various solutions were considered except the obvious one (surely there must be non-Jews in Israel, aren’t they?)

Is ElAl another “Jew only” company?

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Greetings our dearest passengers! We hope that you will enjoy your visit to our country, but just in case, would you be deported upon landing at Ben Gurion International, we will tell you about our country now. ….

]]> By: susy http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66950 susy Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:56:24 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66950 good point mairav "you do realize that every leftist in any country says that about their country? Why do you think yours is so much worse?"...this is just a semplicistic and groundless generalization good point mairav
“you do realize that every leftist in any country says that about their country? Why do you think yours is so much worse?”…this is just a semplicistic and groundless generalization

]]> By: Maor http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66945 Maor Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:50:09 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66945 Occupation-washing: washing away Palestinian terrorism and anti-Zionist crimes, incitement, and bigotry by presenting the Palestinians as victims of "the occupation" and by assigning negative occupation-related motivations to every act of any Israeli governmental organization. Occupation-washing: washing away Palestinian terrorism and anti-Zionist crimes, incitement, and bigotry by presenting the Palestinians as victims of “the occupation” and by assigning negative occupation-related motivations to every act of any Israeli governmental organization.

]]> By: Mairav Zonszein http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66930 Mairav Zonszein Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:26:13 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66930 @Vicky and @SH: Nice! We should start a copywriting company together! @Vicky and @SH: Nice! We should start a copywriting company together!

]]> By: sh http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66927 sh Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:28:41 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66927 Talk about screeds and rants, XYZ, you're quite a dab hand yourself although, like most of us, you don't make much of a dent in the objects of your obsession. . The reason I was late posting my comment above was because I was searching for proof of something I remember happening that I wished to add. What I found instead was a more recent incident that made my efforts comical. I distinctly remember being handed a map of Israel by El-Al cabin crew several years ago that was river-to-sea. There was a minor fuss over it in a newspaper or two afterwards. Nothing on the first page of google but lots of this, which happened a few months ago: a blue map was handed out by the crew on a flight to a Russian destination that completely sliced out both the West Bank and the Gaza strip. High dudgeon and complaints that this was not "Israel's official map" ensued. In both cases El Al issued an apology. Talk about screeds and rants, XYZ, you’re quite a dab hand yourself although, like most of us, you don’t make much of a dent in the objects of your obsession.
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The reason I was late posting my comment above was because I was searching for proof of something I remember happening that I wished to add. What I found instead was a more recent incident that made my efforts comical. I distinctly remember being handed a map of Israel by El-Al cabin crew several years ago that was river-to-sea. There was a minor fuss over it in a newspaper or two afterwards. Nothing on the first page of google but lots of this, which happened a few months ago: a blue map was handed out by the crew on a flight to a Russian destination that completely sliced out both the West Bank and the Gaza strip. High dudgeon and complaints that this was not “Israel’s official map” ensued.
In both cases El Al issued an apology.

]]> By: Kibbutznik http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66918 Kibbutznik Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:35:51 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66918 " Aargh, great minds think alike Vicky! " . such a low opinion you have of yourself sh. wink. . you should really get into politics , start with doing some PR spin for Kadima in English of course , dont forget to mention your roots in Gush Emunim and how you think Shulamit Aloni is a liar ... they will welcome you with open arms . ” Aargh, great minds think alike Vicky! ”
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such a low opinion you have of yourself sh.
wink.
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you should really get into politics , start with doing some PR spin for Kadima in English of course , dont forget to mention your roots in Gush Emunim and how you think Shulamit Aloni is a liar … they will welcome you with open arms .

]]> By: XYZ http://972mag.com/watch-elal-israels-national-airline-now-part-of-state-pr/49627/comment-page-1/#comment-66915 XYZ Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:50:15 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=49627#comment-66915 Correction- I meant to say at the end of the preceding comment that the radical Jewist Left/Progressives are infuriated that the rest of the world doesn't share their pathologies. Let me make clear...it is quite legitimate for Israeli and non-Israel Jews to take positions on the future of the territories that Palestinians live on, to support removing the settlements, and to even support having Israel turn into a "state of all its citizens'. However, the Jewish Left-Progressives must realize they are a small minority and simply pouring out rage and hate against Israel AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT like those I mentioned above goes far beyond what civilized political discourse allows for. Correction-
I meant to say at the end of the preceding comment that the radical Jewist Left/Progressives are infuriated that the rest of the world doesn’t share their pathologies.
Let me make clear…it is quite legitimate for Israeli and non-Israel Jews to take positions on the future of the territories that Palestinians live on, to support removing the settlements, and to even support having Israel turn into a “state of all its citizens’. However, the Jewish Left-Progressives must realize they are a small minority and simply pouring out rage and hate against Israel AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT like those I mentioned above goes far beyond what civilized political discourse allows for.

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