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		<title>By: petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really doesn&#039;t matter what the muslims do.The western media will always pick the one violant person over the thousands of peacefull muslims and portray this as the muslim world.The media are playing a dirty game to make islam look bad.Maybe i would believe these stories too, if i didn&#039;t have Islamic inlaws.I&#039;m always very shocked by the amount of hate against muslims, it&#039;s like the second world war when the germans did their best to make jews look like non-humans.(Hope you understand my attempt to write in English.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really doesn&#8217;t matter what the muslims do.The western media will always pick the one violant person over the thousands of peacefull muslims and portray this as the muslim world.The media are playing a dirty game to make islam look bad.Maybe i would believe these stories too, if i didn&#8217;t have Islamic inlaws.I&#8217;m always very shocked by the amount of hate against muslims, it&#8217;s like the second world war when the germans did their best to make jews look like non-humans.(Hope you understand my attempt to write in English.)</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piotr Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handala  &quot;The problem with Islam today is that it’s stuck in 8th century Arabia…&quot;

So we can compare Church of Scientology favorably to Islam.  By the way of contrast, Babylonian Talmud is even older than Quran, and Upanishads are older still.

One question that was raised is if a religion allows for sexual intercourse with &quot;underage&quot; girls.  If I understand correctly, there is no concept of &quot;underage&quot; in Judaism.  There is a provision in Talmud that after marrying a prepubescent girl the husband can have an intercourse with her on the 4th night after the wedding.  So if she was 10 years old, she will be 10 years and 4 days old, much better.

If you believe that God orders now the same morality as ever, there is no reason to reject something merely because it dates to the early Iron Age.  Of course, you can argue that the sages made a wrong interpretation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handala  &#8220;The problem with Islam today is that it’s stuck in 8th century Arabia…&#8221;</p>
<p>So we can compare Church of Scientology favorably to Islam.  By the way of contrast, Babylonian Talmud is even older than Quran, and Upanishads are older still.</p>
<p>One question that was raised is if a religion allows for sexual intercourse with &#8220;underage&#8221; girls.  If I understand correctly, there is no concept of &#8220;underage&#8221; in Judaism.  There is a provision in Talmud that after marrying a prepubescent girl the husband can have an intercourse with her on the 4th night after the wedding.  So if she was 10 years old, she will be 10 years and 4 days old, much better.</p>
<p>If you believe that God orders now the same morality as ever, there is no reason to reject something merely because it dates to the early Iron Age.  Of course, you can argue that the sages made a wrong interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aziz Abu Sarah, you never cease to amaze me and this time as always touched the deepest part of my heart! Bravo to you for all the good and loving work you do in this world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aziz Abu Sarah, you never cease to amaze me and this time as always touched the deepest part of my heart! Bravo to you for all the good and loving work you do in this world!</p>
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		<title>By: Kabir Maulaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kabir Maulaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ISLAM&quot; the religion of piece. O you the people of this Ummah let join hands and save the words that our beloved Prophet Muhammad {S.A.W.} calls for it, =PIECE=. We are the muslims and we are the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ISLAM&#8221; the religion of piece. O you the people of this Ummah let join hands and save the words that our beloved Prophet Muhammad {S.A.W.} calls for it, =PIECE=. We are the muslims and we are the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Handala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Islam today is that it&#039;s stuck in 8th century Arabia...it&#039;s understanding is based on  interpretations that are over 1200 years, which may have been progressive then but are certainly retrogressive today! A modern approach to decipher the Book (aka Qur&#039;an) is necessary to make this truly beautiful religion applicable in today&#039;s time and age. Muhammad Shahrour was able to do that, i recommend every person (Muslim or not) who is genuinely interested in knowing what Islam is all about to read his book &quot;The Qur’an, Morality and Critical Reason&quot; available on his website (for free) For Arabic readers, &quot;El Kitab wal Qur&#039;an&quot; is a must!! Salam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Islam today is that it&#8217;s stuck in 8th century Arabia&#8230;it&#8217;s understanding is based on  interpretations that are over 1200 years, which may have been progressive then but are certainly retrogressive today! A modern approach to decipher the Book (aka Qur&#8217;an) is necessary to make this truly beautiful religion applicable in today&#8217;s time and age. Muhammad Shahrour was able to do that, i recommend every person (Muslim or not) who is genuinely interested in knowing what Islam is all about to read his book &#8220;The Qur’an, Morality and Critical Reason&#8221; available on his website (for free) For Arabic readers, &#8220;El Kitab wal Qur&#8217;an&#8221; is a must!! Salam</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Greg thinks the other Greg somewhat right.  But, having been embedded in the need for faith, I have seen that it is a social survival tool very many cannot, will not discard.  There are several statements in the Qur&#039;an which would allow a renewal.  &quot;To every people I have given a prophet, and nothing said here detracts from what they said,&quot; in paraphrase, is one.  The life raft stays with us; but its direction can be changed.  Only by those who live it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Greg thinks the other Greg somewhat right.  But, having been embedded in the need for faith, I have seen that it is a social survival tool very many cannot, will not discard.  There are several statements in the Qur&#8217;an which would allow a renewal.  &#8220;To every people I have given a prophet, and nothing said here detracts from what they said,&#8221; in paraphrase, is one.  The life raft stays with us; but its direction can be changed.  Only by those who live it.</p>
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		<title>By: SD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberti, How many &quot;people of the Mideast&quot; who you say are &quot;programmed to kill the infidels&quot; have you met?  Perhaps you have seen one too many bad movies?  I was at the Damascus gate on Friday when a crowd of hundreds of Muslims emerged from the Old City after prayers.  I was plainly visible as a rather cliche American, and not a single person so much as frowned at me.  When the (very few) sign-wielding protesters emerged from the back of the crowd, the Jerusalem police force immediately &quot;administered&quot; shock grenades and tear gas to get them to turn around.  Don&#039;t believe what you read in the so-called news.  Get out there yourself and experience a bit of life before making such ill-informed and simply ignorant assertions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberti, How many &#8220;people of the Mideast&#8221; who you say are &#8220;programmed to kill the infidels&#8221; have you met?  Perhaps you have seen one too many bad movies?  I was at the Damascus gate on Friday when a crowd of hundreds of Muslims emerged from the Old City after prayers.  I was plainly visible as a rather cliche American, and not a single person so much as frowned at me.  When the (very few) sign-wielding protesters emerged from the back of the crowd, the Jerusalem police force immediately &#8220;administered&#8221; shock grenades and tear gas to get them to turn around.  Don&#8217;t believe what you read in the so-called news.  Get out there yourself and experience a bit of life before making such ill-informed and simply ignorant assertions.</p>
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		<title>By: Niazbeen Shinwari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niazbeen Shinwari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Work Aziz..This Article is well written and I Fully Agree with you! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Work Aziz..This Article is well written and I Fully Agree with you! =)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Aziz.

Where others see religious conflict I&#039;m afraid I only see a warped version of class conflict, with protests like these another way of distracting ordinary Muslims from their real tormentors - their political and economic exploiters.

Everywhere you look people crave dignity.  Their anger and sense of injustice can be channelled positively by leaderless mass-movements like the Arab Spring, but those movements are genuinely dangerous for those who have an interest in the status quo.  Brewing false controversy over a stupid film keeps the rabble onside.

And I get tired of people implying (or outright claiming) that Muslims are inherently more likely to become violent when their religion is percieved to be under threat, and that this is some kind of built-in problem with Islam.  

The built-in problem is that Islam is overwhelmingly the religion of the poor, and it manages to restore some of the dignity to the masses that material and political circumstances take away.  Little wonder that it is so cherished as a way of life, and so quickly defended when percieved to be under attack.

It&#039;s poverty that is the problem, and religion an excuse not to take it seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Aziz.</p>
<p>Where others see religious conflict I&#8217;m afraid I only see a warped version of class conflict, with protests like these another way of distracting ordinary Muslims from their real tormentors &#8211; their political and economic exploiters.</p>
<p>Everywhere you look people crave dignity.  Their anger and sense of injustice can be channelled positively by leaderless mass-movements like the Arab Spring, but those movements are genuinely dangerous for those who have an interest in the status quo.  Brewing false controversy over a stupid film keeps the rabble onside.</p>
<p>And I get tired of people implying (or outright claiming) that Muslims are inherently more likely to become violent when their religion is percieved to be under threat, and that this is some kind of built-in problem with Islam.  </p>
<p>The built-in problem is that Islam is overwhelmingly the religion of the poor, and it manages to restore some of the dignity to the masses that material and political circumstances take away.  Little wonder that it is so cherished as a way of life, and so quickly defended when percieved to be under attack.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s poverty that is the problem, and religion an excuse not to take it seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: the other joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never really understood the logic of defending the honour of a deity (or his prophets).  Surely if he is God, he will take is own revenge, if his prophet&#039;s words are true, they remain true even if idiots defame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never really understood the logic of defending the honour of a deity (or his prophets).  Surely if he is God, he will take is own revenge, if his prophet&#8217;s words are true, they remain true even if idiots defame them.</p>
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