Comments on: The Wall, 10 years on / part 8: A working class under siege http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Sat, 18 May 2013 16:26:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: PLO: In May, Israel approved 4,300 new settlement units, uprooted 1,024 olive trees, demolished 37 buildings, and arrested 240 Palestinians | Mondoweiss http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64553 PLO: In May, Israel approved 4,300 new settlement units, uprooted 1,024 olive trees, demolished 37 buildings, and arrested 240 Palestinians | Mondoweiss Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:31:50 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64553 [...] he does not disregard the ruling of the International Court of Justice. link to www.ynetnews.com The Wall, 10 years on -- Part 8: a working class under siege / Haggai Matar 972mag 1 June -- The wall was built to stop suicide bombers from entering Israel, so they say. But [...] [...] he does not disregard the ruling of the International Court of Justice. link to http://www.ynetnews.com The Wall, 10 years on — Part 8: a working class under siege / Haggai Matar 972mag 1 June — The wall was built to stop suicide bombers from entering Israel, so they say. But [...]

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64550 Rowan Berkeley Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:37:57 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64550 Haggai looks a lot like an elf in that cartoon. . By the way, off-topic though it is, I should take this opportunity to modify my statement to Caden that “The Cuban Mafia, the CIA and US Army Intelligence killed Kennedy.” I was relying too much on P D Scott for this assessment, but Scott has been roundly criticised by M C Piper for neglecting the crucial relationship between Meyer Lansky (the Cuban Mafia kingpin) and the Mossad. Haggai looks a lot like an elf in that cartoon.
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By the way, off-topic though it is, I should take this opportunity to modify my statement to Caden that “The Cuban Mafia, the CIA and US Army Intelligence killed Kennedy.” I was relying too much on P D Scott for this assessment, but Scott has been roundly criticised by M C Piper for neglecting the crucial relationship between Meyer Lansky (the Cuban Mafia kingpin) and the Mossad.

]]> By: sh http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64547 sh Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:52:27 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64547 Haggai, thanks for this great series. It helps us make sense of things we observe going on around us but can't explain. . Your +972 cartoon is good enough to be an ID so I'm not surprised the people you were writing about in this piece accepted it as a validation on sight. I know that because I passed you in the street the other evening! Haggai, thanks for this great series. It helps us make sense of things we observe going on around us but can’t explain.
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Your +972 cartoon is good enough to be an ID so I’m not surprised the people you were writing about in this piece accepted it as a validation on sight. I know that because I passed you in the street the other evening!

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64330 Rowan Berkeley Sun, 03 Jun 2012 06:21:35 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64330 Caden, the Kennedy assassination was a very complicated thing. The Cuban mafia (basically, this means casino owners and associated gangsters) was intimately associated with the CIA Miama station (JM-WAVE). The immediate precipitating factor was the Bay of Pigs fiasco, which the CIA blamed Kennedy for not supporting. There was also the fact that Kennedy was actively pursuing detente with the Soviets, which the armaments lobby naturally would oppose, since then as now they made their money out of global war frenzy. . The Frankist heritage is seriously under researched, even in hebrew sources. You may recall that when Scholem wrote as an established fact that Eibeschutz had indeed been a Frankist, the Israeli chief rabbinate mounted a campaign against him in the Israeli press. Caden, the Kennedy assassination was a very complicated thing. The Cuban mafia (basically, this means casino owners and associated gangsters) was intimately associated with the CIA Miama station (JM-WAVE). The immediate precipitating factor was the Bay of Pigs fiasco, which the CIA blamed Kennedy for not supporting. There was also the fact that Kennedy was actively pursuing detente with the Soviets, which the armaments lobby naturally would oppose, since then as now they made their money out of global war frenzy.
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The Frankist heritage is seriously under researched, even in hebrew sources. You may recall that when Scholem wrote as an established fact that Eibeschutz had indeed been a Frankist, the Israeli chief rabbinate mounted a campaign against him in the Israeli press.

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64305 Daniel de França MTd2 Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:43:32 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64305 @ALAN yes @ALAN yes

]]> By: caden http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64289 caden Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:38:45 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64289 Rowan, it seems a little contradictory that the Cubans the mafia, and the CIA killed Kennedy. Hard to get those three together. Was it because the ultimate strings resided with the jews and there was really no free will that they could exercise. Secondly, are you saying that there was something of a subconspiracy out of Frankfurt that installed some group of super Jews over the rest of us. How did you find that out? It's a closely guarded secret Rowan, it seems a little contradictory that the Cubans the mafia, and the CIA killed Kennedy. Hard to get those three together. Was it because the ultimate strings resided with the jews and there was really no free will that they could exercise. Secondly, are you saying that there was something of a subconspiracy out of Frankfurt that installed some group of super Jews over the rest of us. How did you find that out? It’s a closely guarded secret

]]> By: Alan http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64275 Alan Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:44:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64275 Daniel writes: "@REHMAT – Not an anti semite or anti jew, but sort of Illuminatti nut job. But with with provocateurs like KOLUMN9 or CADEN, this kind of links to such websites will surely appear and help derail any rational discussion." Translation: RHEMAT'S anti-Semitic posts are caused by the "bad" Jews, Caden and K9. Daniel writes: “@REHMAT – Not an anti semite or anti jew, but sort of Illuminatti nut job. But with with provocateurs like KOLUMN9 or CADEN, this kind of links to such websites will surely appear and help derail any rational discussion.”

Translation: RHEMAT’S anti-Semitic posts are caused by the “bad” Jews, Caden and K9.

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64269 Rowan Berkeley Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:40:03 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64269 That site actually belongs to someone who has decided that ancient dualistic gnosticism is the answer to the riddle of existence, Caden: viz., the god of the Jews is in fact an inferior being (Yaldabaoth) which erroneously imagines itself to be the supreme god. According to this theory, the real supreme god sent Yeshu ha-Notsri to inform the pious that this was the case. Some of these gnostics adopted complete chastity, on the theory that the false god (the god of the Jews) had created these bodies of flesh, which we should therefore endeavour to ignore; others adopted extraordinary degrees of sexual license (if we are to believe the church fathers), on the grounds that the false god (the god of the Jews) had written all that purity legislation in the Torah and it would be good to defy him by disobeying it. In this context, it hardly matters who finally killed Kennedy. ;-) That site actually belongs to someone who has decided that ancient dualistic gnosticism is the answer to the riddle of existence, Caden: viz., the god of the Jews is in fact an inferior being (Yaldabaoth) which erroneously imagines itself to be the supreme god. According to this theory, the real supreme god sent Yeshu ha-Notsri to inform the pious that this was the case. Some of these gnostics adopted complete chastity, on the theory that the false god (the god of the Jews) had created these bodies of flesh, which we should therefore endeavour to ignore; others adopted extraordinary degrees of sexual license (if we are to believe the church fathers), on the grounds that the false god (the god of the Jews) had written all that purity legislation in the Torah and it would be good to defy him by disobeying it. In this context, it hardly matters who finally killed Kennedy.
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]]> By: caden http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64268 caden Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:29:54 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64268 Rowan, I clicked on the link that Rehmat provided. The Jews killed Kennedy, instigated WW2. And the holocaust was a myth. I see the light Rowan, I clicked on the link that Rehmat provided. The Jews killed Kennedy, instigated WW2. And the holocaust was a myth. I see the light

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/the-wall-10-years-on-part-8-a-working-class-under-siege/47303/comment-page-1/#comment-64265 Rowan Berkeley Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:39:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=47303#comment-64265 Wouldn't it be better if we said, "The Cuban Mafia, the CIA and US Army Intelligence killed Kennedy"? It's a lot more self-explanatory. Wouldn’t it be better if we said, “The Cuban Mafia, the CIA and US Army Intelligence killed Kennedy”? It’s a lot more self-explanatory.

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