Comments on: The Round Trip part 8: Forget-me-nots

By: phlegmatico

phlegmatico — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:45:10 +0000

ho hum – nothing exotic here. You only need to walk around where ==I== grew up – the north Bronx – to seee endless silent testimonies to how the Dutch got violently pushed aside by the British. Strange, Ruthie doesn’t want to have hysteria-fits about THAT still-current occupation. She’s only interested in discussions which yield opportunities to talk shite about Israel. Prove that I’m wrong, ma’am?

> No peace can exist while war persists

Yuval, wake up and smell the coffee. You’re living in a Mennonite Girl Scout dreamland. Humans are NOT different than chickens. There is a pecking order. Always and all times. You’re able to survive because those five soldier-boys, are willing to kill people to protect you. That is the only reason you are alive.

By: Dhalgren

Dhalgren — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:30:06 +0000

Well, it must mean something if so many different commenters with such different views agree. This is good, I dare say important, stuff. I actually made a donation (which is indeed amazing for someone who is broke). Ayla’s above not-funny-but-eloquent comment pretty much sums it up. It’s easy to get lost in the arguments over this place and forget what it means for people to live there. If we’re not striving to preserve all of these histories, what are we striving for?

By: Michael W.

Michael W. — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:15:06 +0000

Are you going to stop by my hometown, Kibbutz Gesher? You’re almost there. It has a similar story to places you already explored.

By: TammyTamar

TammyTamar — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:26:19 +0000

I second Caden’s first comment: “Yuval, I don’t know whether you intended this but in a quiet sort of way your travelogue has been one of the most pro-Israel things I’ve seen on the internet.” I would add that Yuval’s three journeys are pro-people, pro-food, pro-histories, pro-memories, pro-decency and fairness, and pro-this gift called life!

@Yuval, I’m not sure I understand the phrase “young Jordan river” (“The following morning I head back to the road that skirts the Golan’s foothills and the young Jordan river.”) That this river “starts” at these foothills?

By: AYLA

AYLA — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:15:11 +0000

Yuval–hope you’re finding a great Mimouna tonight (readers: Moroccan meal at the end of Passover). I’ll be in Yeroham, (as you well know, an extremely ethnically mixed town in the desert), at what they report will be the longest table in the history of the world. (they seriously report that. Which is funny!) Cheers.

By: AYLA

AYLA — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:05:00 +0000

advanced apologies if this comment isn’t funny , but the thing you, @Caden, and @Joel are getting at is that stories are heartening, and news isn’t. And we need to feel heartened if we’re going to see past this mess… And the reason that stories are heartening where news isn’t is that stories are about real people, real lives, and real people and their real lives tend to be heartening. That’s why it’s so important to get out of our heads, and off of toxic comment threads (972′s aren’t so bad, usually), and go outside. If we do that, we have moments like the one Yuval had, I think on post 3?, where he realizes that he’s exactly where he’s meant to be in that moment. Coming to that kind of contentment, or acceptance of what is, is strangely the only way to affect change. One of those paradoxical, spiritual truisms. I know: not funny!

By: caden

caden — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:25:17 +0000

Ruthie, actually I should apologize. Didn’t mean to go off like that. Its just that it was nice to read something on a blog like this, and I would say the same thing about something similar on arutz 7, that was beyond the usual left/right arguments. Something about Israel that kind of makes you smile.

By: Ruthie

Ruthie — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:08:08 +0000

My apologies Caden – your comment could be read in several of different tones, and not knowing you I guess I read it in the wrong one
Admittedly, my sense of humor sometimes checks out when the conflict is at hand.

By: caden

caden — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:52:25 +0000

One other observation about left wing people. Both in the United States and Israel. No sense of humor.

By: caden

caden — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:48:39 +0000

Ruthie, can’t you give it a rest for a while. Not everything has to be a a life and death Geo-political struggle. I know where he stands and I still like the piece.