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		<title>By: AYLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AYLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) &quot;After walking alongside Umm Jihad in her moments of sweet nostalgia, I would have been friendly towards Pol Pot,&quot; made me laugh really hard.
2) I just got home from a  day along the Nabatean Spice Route between Petra and Gaza, so I&#039;ve been in a lot of caves today.  To cement a cave is a a grave act of disrespect not only against the human dweller, but against the cave herself.  
3) Abraham and Sarah!
3) Yuval--the Adventure and Beauty gods are on your side.  They are no fools.  This post is perfection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) &#8220;After walking alongside Umm Jihad in her moments of sweet nostalgia, I would have been friendly towards Pol Pot,&#8221; made me laugh really hard.<br />
2) I just got home from a  day along the Nabatean Spice Route between Petra and Gaza, so I&#8217;ve been in a lot of caves today.  To cement a cave is a a grave act of disrespect not only against the human dweller, but against the cave herself.<br />
3) Abraham and Sarah!<br />
3) Yuval&#8211;the Adventure and Beauty gods are on your side.  They are no fools.  This post is perfection.</p>
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		<title>By: Dhalgren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhalgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story of Umm Jihad is very touching, especially when paired with the picture of her in the barley with her arms outstretched in wonderment. It&#039;s interesting how Tine&#039;s illustrations shift the focus of your accounts to the perceptual. This actually seemed to blend well while reading it with the images of the paradoxical &quot;Forest of the German States&quot; sign, the extremist signs and symbols, and the fact that the two major personal experiences (Umm Jihad&#039;s and Abraham&#039;s) depend very much on their way of seeing the world (for Umm Jihad memory came to life and for Abraham the Torah defines life). Really, the world is not a single theater, but rather there are as many theaters and as many directors as there are human minds capable of experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story of Umm Jihad is very touching, especially when paired with the picture of her in the barley with her arms outstretched in wonderment. It&#8217;s interesting how Tine&#8217;s illustrations shift the focus of your accounts to the perceptual. This actually seemed to blend well while reading it with the images of the paradoxical &#8220;Forest of the German States&#8221; sign, the extremist signs and symbols, and the fact that the two major personal experiences (Umm Jihad&#8217;s and Abraham&#8217;s) depend very much on their way of seeing the world (for Umm Jihad memory came to life and for Abraham the Torah defines life). Really, the world is not a single theater, but rather there are as many theaters and as many directors as there are human minds capable of experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you are one of those persons who think JI means &#039;holy&#039;, and HAD means &#039;war&#039;!

Jihad means &#039;exertion&#039; or &#039;struggle&#039;. In Islam there is the concept of the &#039;big jihad&#039;, which refers to the struggle against evil urges inside yourself, and there is the concept of the &#039;small jihad&#039;, which is the struggle against evils outside of yourself. This can take all kinds of forms, such as social activism, but also war. 

The concept of the &#039;just war&#039; by the way, is not limited to Islam.

Finally, where did you get this from? 

&quot;According to their beliefs Jews are justified in killing any German they might find based on past injustices.&quot;
 
&quot;Their&quot; beliefs or &quot;your&quot; beliefs? And so telling that you think this bloodlust should only affect &quot;left wing&quot; Germans!! (Because Nazism was a left-wing ideology, right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you are one of those persons who think JI means &#8216;holy&#8217;, and HAD means &#8216;war&#8217;!</p>
<p>Jihad means &#8216;exertion&#8217; or &#8216;struggle&#8217;. In Islam there is the concept of the &#8216;big jihad&#8217;, which refers to the struggle against evil urges inside yourself, and there is the concept of the &#8216;small jihad&#8217;, which is the struggle against evils outside of yourself. This can take all kinds of forms, such as social activism, but also war. </p>
<p>The concept of the &#8216;just war&#8217; by the way, is not limited to Islam.</p>
<p>Finally, where did you get this from? </p>
<p>&#8220;According to their beliefs Jews are justified in killing any German they might find based on past injustices.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Their&#8221; beliefs or &#8220;your&#8221; beliefs? And so telling that you think this bloodlust should only affect &#8220;left wing&#8221; Germans!! (Because Nazism was a left-wing ideology, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: sh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuval, just to say how much your way of looking contributes to understanding - and to appreciate how the drawings allied with the photos contribute to ways of looking. Love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuval, just to say how much your way of looking contributes to understanding &#8211; and to appreciate how the drawings allied with the photos contribute to ways of looking. Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: sh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K9 you&#039;re a real clown who never misses the chance of a trick. The root of the word jihad means effort and the word itself means struggle, not necessarily armed. You&#039;d need to add a qualifier to make it mean that, just as you do in the expression armed struggle. 
Not that I think you&#039;re in the least bit interested in correcting your misperceptions,
http://www.quranicstudies.com/jihad/the-meaning-of-jihad/
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_jihad.htm
.
According to their beliefs Jews are not permitted to cut down a single fruit tree or transgress the Shabat (to slug someone with a gun). But they do, wearing tzitzit and kipa, all the time. As for killing anyone, look no further than the 10 commandments. But why bother? Your last sentence stands as a monument to who you really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K9 you&#8217;re a real clown who never misses the chance of a trick. The root of the word jihad means effort and the word itself means struggle, not necessarily armed. You&#8217;d need to add a qualifier to make it mean that, just as you do in the expression armed struggle.<br />
Not that I think you&#8217;re in the least bit interested in correcting your misperceptions,<br />
<a href="http://www.quranicstudies.com/jihad/the-meaning-of-jihad/" rel="nofollow">http://www.quranicstudies.com/jihad/the-meaning-of-jihad/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_jihad.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_jihad.htm</a><br />
.<br />
According to their beliefs Jews are not permitted to cut down a single fruit tree or transgress the Shabat (to slug someone with a gun). But they do, wearing tzitzit and kipa, all the time. As for killing anyone, look no further than the 10 commandments. But why bother? Your last sentence stands as a monument to who you really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 03:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look at that, a lovely peaceful woman who named her eldest son &#039;Islamic holy war&#039;.
.

Left wing Germans should be uncomfortable in Israel. According to their beliefs Jews are justified in killing any German they might find based on past injustices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look at that, a lovely peaceful woman who named her eldest son &#8216;Islamic holy war&#8217;.<br />
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<p>Left wing Germans should be uncomfortable in Israel. According to their beliefs Jews are justified in killing any German they might find based on past injustices.</p>
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		<title>By: aristeides</title>
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		<dc:creator>aristeides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only two letters left!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two letters left!</p>
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