Comments on: The irreparable damage of Netanyahu-Mofaz fiasco

By: Bea

Bea — Thu, 10 May 2012 20:02:41 +0000

Your views are spot on Ami, even though these treacherous oiks always end up hanging themselves , the democracy gets ground into the mud and the consitution, confetti in the process.
Remember the all powerful Tom de Lay, Danny, the almighty who ruled Congress for some (Clinton) years? A salesman, fertilizers – yours furniture , still a macher. Two years and a record that won’t go away.
Yes you do have a lot of slime in your Knesset.

Meanwhile your Mr Mofaz is in serious need of psychiatric help!

Good luck chaps!

By: Cortez

Cortez — Wed, 09 May 2012 12:46:39 +0000

“She underestimated Bibi, who is probably the best politician (not leader) that Israel has ever had. He is way better at politics than Peres in his prime.”
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I don’t thinks she underestimated bibi as much as mis-estimated where the Israeli public stood today on major issues. She could have pandered harder and she certainly had the platform to do so.
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Well all politicians lie as a function of their job but it’s the extent to which they lie and how that affects the political system that is highly problematic. Mofaz subverted the whole political system to make Kadima effectively disappear into Likud(I know it’s still alive but let’s be real…it’s a homecoming of sorts but a Trojan horse none the less). Granted I’m not sure if members of Kadima hated the idea either. The absence of large scale dissent it’s percualiar but so everything else right now.

By: XYZ

XYZ — Wed, 09 May 2012 12:25:49 +0000

Is lying truly bad? Could someone please explain to me why Sharon lying in the 2003 election when he promised NOT to destroy Gush Katif after saying “Netzarim is like Tel Aviv” and he won the election based on the pledge turning around and doing the opposite, and finally breaking up the Likud is NOT bad?
Is it that lying for US is okay, but lying for THEM is bad, or is lying bad, period?

By: AYLA

AYLA — Wed, 09 May 2012 07:34:49 +0000

Thanks, Ami. Just when I’d decided to figure out this political system in order to be a responsible voter–even gathering online and offline teachers (friends), it turns itself upside down again. Every day here, I’m just like: How can they DO that? Hello? People?!?
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thanks for breaking it down. I’d only challenge one idea: maybe, just maybe, if revolution were strong enough, this would be worth it. You know: sometimes you need rock bottom to recover. But it’s awfully quiet out there. So quiet, you could hear an army plane breaking the sound barrier.

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Wed, 09 May 2012 06:34:21 +0000

Livni didn’t join because she presumed that Bibi’s government would collapse at some point due to conflicts with the Americans or settlers or Haredim and she can swoop in to pick up the remains. This was not an unreasonable idea given that the right often falls precisely in such circumstances. She had to stay in the opposition to be considered a credible alternative to Bibi. She underestimated Bibi, who is probably the best politician (not leader) that Israel has ever had. He is way better at politics than Peres in his prime.

By: CorteZ

CorteZ — Wed, 09 May 2012 02:19:05 +0000

I guess Livini didn’t join with him because he is clearly a shameless lying creep. He’s would have snaked her too. I’m not sure if this isolates the right if Mofaz himself is actually the right and if hes only few degrees away from the extreme right. If it becomes politically advantageous who knows how far he’ll go.

By: Caro

Caro — Tue, 08 May 2012 20:40:39 +0000

Really can’t understand bile against Netanyahu – Mofaz is a creep – but this isolates the loony right and can bring good consequences on the tal law, political reform and passing of budget and economic concentration reforms. Why didn’t Livni join with him in first place?

By: max

max — Tue, 08 May 2012 20:38:15 +0000

So this is worse and more irreparable than Peres’ “dirty trick” in 1990? 22 years of progress?
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I have no idea what the people of Israel want, but the new coalition could reflect what should have happened after the last election.
A brilliant move, and now we’ll see whether it’ll be used constructively or destructively.
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Calling for election (ensuring your potential partner understands how much he needs you) and in parallel working on a larger coalition – win either way – isn’t dishonest, it’s calculated pragmatism meant to ensure you can act. But of course, we all know it and wish our side would be doing it…

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Tue, 08 May 2012 20:16:17 +0000

Let me read between the lines here. The valiant avant-garde of a better world are celebrating the mask being ripped from the face of the Israeli political system. Surely the people will notice and rise up as one body against their exploiters and their corrupt representatives. Surely the people shall see that to pursue these policies is madness and that joining us at the threshold of a new and better world is the only logical course. Only why do the people consistently ignore us and disagree with our conclusions? Could it be because we are wrong? Never!

By: Joel

Joel — Tue, 08 May 2012 19:39:57 +0000

Thank you for summing up how I feel, Ami. I just hope people, j14, labor, anyone, will be able to translate this charade into real change -before- people really get hurt (in a war or two, for example). Sure, a catastrophic war with Iran might be the last nail in the political coffin of everyone in this coalition, but it’s still not something I hope for, just as little as I thought this was a good thing, regardless of the possible positive outcomes.