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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fanned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fanned!</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I ask for facts. You respond with insinuations, because you have no facts.&quot;

Oh dear.

Are you saying that in the absence of any evidence, one way or the other, many posters here didn&#039;t convict this woman soldier in their minds? 

They DID. That is a fact. You want more facts? I haven&#039;t got any yet. Have you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I ask for facts. You respond with insinuations, because you have no facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>Are you saying that in the absence of any evidence, one way or the other, many posters here didn&#8217;t convict this woman soldier in their minds? </p>
<p>They DID. That is a fact. You want more facts? I haven&#8217;t got any yet. Have you?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The heroine vs the terrorist: a case study in self-defense. http://youtu.be/ybw9gT1oFpE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heroine vs the terrorist: a case study in self-defense. <a href="http://youtu.be/ybw9gT1oFpE" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/ybw9gT1oFpE</a></p>
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		<title>By: TobyR</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They are a lynch mob who act as judge, jury and executioners.&quot;

That is one of the most bizarre misapplications of words I have ever witnessed. 
But it is quite typical: I ask for facts. You respond with insinuations, because you have no facts. I argue based on reality, you argue based on fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are a lynch mob who act as judge, jury and executioners.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is one of the most bizarre misapplications of words I have ever witnessed.<br />
But it is quite typical: I ask for facts. You respond with insinuations, because you have no facts. I argue based on reality, you argue based on fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I take your point JR. So let me say what I really should have said:

One can&#039;t turn the clock back and pretend that nothing happened. Unless you are willing to pay the price for doing it.

And after what happened to the Jews for 2000 years, culminating in the holocaust, us Zionists and many other decent people in the world decided that re-establishing the Jewish state along side 25 Arab/Muslim states was worth paying the price.

The Arabs didn&#039;t think so and they still don&#039;t think so. It was and still is their choice but they better make sure they won&#039;t have to pay an even bigger price for trying to destroy the last hope of the Jewish people. They have other reasonable options other than turning the clock back all the way to their good old days of glory at the sixth century. We don&#039;t. We are no longer willing to be victims.

Are you happy now JR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I take your point JR. So let me say what I really should have said:</p>
<p>One can&#8217;t turn the clock back and pretend that nothing happened. Unless you are willing to pay the price for doing it.</p>
<p>And after what happened to the Jews for 2000 years, culminating in the holocaust, us Zionists and many other decent people in the world decided that re-establishing the Jewish state along side 25 Arab/Muslim states was worth paying the price.</p>
<p>The Arabs didn&#8217;t think so and they still don&#8217;t think so. It was and still is their choice but they better make sure they won&#8217;t have to pay an even bigger price for trying to destroy the last hope of the Jewish people. They have other reasonable options other than turning the clock back all the way to their good old days of glory at the sixth century. We don&#8217;t. We are no longer willing to be victims.</p>
<p>Are you happy now JR?</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Right. I could post an essay on why Israel should expel every last Palestinian and you wouldn’t say word one about minding my business&quot;

Wrong again. I have often argued with your mirror image idiots on the right against any such ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right. I could post an essay on why Israel should expel every last Palestinian and you wouldn’t say word one about minding my business&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong again. I have often argued with your mirror image idiots on the right against any such ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now, as to why Israel does not simply expel all Arabs from the Green Line, even though there are certainly politicians and Jewish electorate calling for such an action, the number one factor is probably that it would result in open conflict with Egypt and Jordan&quot;

Really Andrew? I was asking you why didn&#039;t Israel expel ALL the Arabs in 1948 and that was your answer?

Now who is not even half educated? Didn&#039;t you know that in 1948/49, Israel was ALREADY engaged in open conflict with BOTH Egypt and Jordan? So the Zionist Israelis could have expelled ALL the Arabs then. But they did not. To me that confirms what Benny Morris said: there was no policy of expulsion by force. Were there some expulsion by force? Yes. And the Arabs were guilty of doing it to Jews too (that was a repetition for your benefit because it seems that you are not allowing any ideas to penetrate into your head which contradict your pre-existing prejudices).

As for your accusations of Racism against the Zionists. All I can say to you is this:

WHATEVER, ok? How do you want us to behave against those who are racists against us? The idea of Zionism is that Jews will no longer be willing to be victims of racists. If that to you is racist then I say to you that most people are racists. Including you unless you claim to be a passive individual who turns the other cheek. But that seems to me to be unlikely, judging by your language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, as to why Israel does not simply expel all Arabs from the Green Line, even though there are certainly politicians and Jewish electorate calling for such an action, the number one factor is probably that it would result in open conflict with Egypt and Jordan&#8221;</p>
<p>Really Andrew? I was asking you why didn&#8217;t Israel expel ALL the Arabs in 1948 and that was your answer?</p>
<p>Now who is not even half educated? Didn&#8217;t you know that in 1948/49, Israel was ALREADY engaged in open conflict with BOTH Egypt and Jordan? So the Zionist Israelis could have expelled ALL the Arabs then. But they did not. To me that confirms what Benny Morris said: there was no policy of expulsion by force. Were there some expulsion by force? Yes. And the Arabs were guilty of doing it to Jews too (that was a repetition for your benefit because it seems that you are not allowing any ideas to penetrate into your head which contradict your pre-existing prejudices).</p>
<p>As for your accusations of Racism against the Zionists. All I can say to you is this:</p>
<p>WHATEVER, ok? How do you want us to behave against those who are racists against us? The idea of Zionism is that Jews will no longer be willing to be victims of racists. If that to you is racist then I say to you that most people are racists. Including you unless you claim to be a passive individual who turns the other cheek. But that seems to me to be unlikely, judging by your language.</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s what I was talking about, you twit. How do you think population transfer is&quot;

Language ... Andrew .... mind your language.

You might have been talking about it you twit. But you did not mention why the atrocities happened.

So let me enlighten you, you twit: It happened because disparate peoples with historical hatreds were artificially forced to be citizens of the ONE state. After Tito&#039;s death, those disparate groups wanted to break away from that artificial ONE state solution. But the dominant group, the Serbs did not like it so a very nasty little war ensued.

Do you get it now, you twit?

Oh and you still keep on ignoring Rwanda and Lebanon where the same thing happened and in the case of Lebanon will happen again because of a similar solution that you advocate, you Twit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s what I was talking about, you twit. How do you think population transfer is&#8221;</p>
<p>Language &#8230; Andrew &#8230;. mind your language.</p>
<p>You might have been talking about it you twit. But you did not mention why the atrocities happened.</p>
<p>So let me enlighten you, you twit: It happened because disparate peoples with historical hatreds were artificially forced to be citizens of the ONE state. After Tito&#8217;s death, those disparate groups wanted to break away from that artificial ONE state solution. But the dominant group, the Serbs did not like it so a very nasty little war ensued.</p>
<p>Do you get it now, you twit?</p>
<p>Oh and you still keep on ignoring Rwanda and Lebanon where the same thing happened and in the case of Lebanon will happen again because of a similar solution that you advocate, you Twit.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew r</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have not heard of the civil war that ensued in Yugoslavia? The ethnic cleansings? The mass murders? The atrocities committed against each other by the various sides?&quot;

That&#039;s what I was talking about, you twit.  How do you think population transfer is accomplished.  What do you think was the point of that civil war?  Why do you think I name-checked Karadzic, for his herbal medicine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have not heard of the civil war that ensued in Yugoslavia? The ethnic cleansings? The mass murders? The atrocities committed against each other by the various sides?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I was talking about, you twit.  How do you think population transfer is accomplished.  What do you think was the point of that civil war?  Why do you think I name-checked Karadzic, for his herbal medicine?</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and that was just Yugoslavia Andrew.

Now are you also going to pretend ignorance about ahat happened in Rwanda and Lebanon too?

HINT: 1 million Tutsis were murdered in a frenzy of butchery by Hutus in Rwanda.

ANOTHER HINT: Go study up what happened to the various different ethnic groups at various stages of the Lebanese civil war.

Actually, if you want to argue this point further, I can bring up some other examples too in other countries. But it isn&#039;t a nice topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and that was just Yugoslavia Andrew.</p>
<p>Now are you also going to pretend ignorance about ahat happened in Rwanda and Lebanon too?</p>
<p>HINT: 1 million Tutsis were murdered in a frenzy of butchery by Hutus in Rwanda.</p>
<p>ANOTHER HINT: Go study up what happened to the various different ethnic groups at various stages of the Lebanese civil war.</p>
<p>Actually, if you want to argue this point further, I can bring up some other examples too in other countries. But it isn&#8217;t a nice topic.</p>
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