Comments on: Stand up for your son: Say ‘no’ to ritual circumcision

By: Camilla

Camilla — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:45:04 +0000

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By: Frank McGinness

Frank McGinness — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 21:28:21 +0000

@Max “extra sensitivity”?
The human body has nothing extra. Would you say one eye is extra? Is binocular vision useful? Please consider there are two areas of sexual receptors that play with each other at the glans corona and the Taylor’s ridged band (which transfers actions to the frenulum). Seems this sexual experience is in stereo. Max, what you suggest trying would be mono.

By: Alfred Schram

Alfred Schram — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:19:40 +0000

There are numerous, peer-reviewed scientific articles refuting commonly claimed benefits of circumcision. A short list:
1. Bollinger, D. and Van Howe, R., “ALEXITHYMIA AND CIRCUMCISION TRAUMA: A PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION”, International Journal of Men’s Health (2011); 184-195.
2. Frisch, M., Lindholm, M., and Gronbaek, M., “MALE CIRCUMCISION AND SEXUAL FUNCTION IN MEN AND WOMEN: A SURVEY-BASED CROSS-SECTIONAL STUDY IN DENMARK”, International Journal of Epidemiology (2011), 1-15.
3. Tang, W., and Khoo, E. “PREVALENCE AND CORRELATES OF PREMATURE EJACULATION IN A PRIMARY CARE SETTING: A PRELIMINARY CROSS-SECTIONAL STUDY”. Journal of Sexual Medicine (2011) Apr. 14.
4. Fox, M., and Thomson, M., “HIV/AIDS AND CIRCUMCISION: LOST IN TRANSLATION”. Journal ofMedical Ethics 36 (2010); 798-801.
5. Green, L. et al., “MALE CIRCUMCISION AND HIV PREVENTION:INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE AND NEGLECTED EXTERNAL VALIDITY”. American Journal of preventive Medicine 39 (2010): 479-482.
6. Connolly, C., et al., South African Medical Journal 98 (2008); 789-794.
7. McAllister, R., et al., “THE COST TO CIRCUMCISE AFRICA”, American journal of Men’s Health 7 (2008): 307-316.
8. Green, L. et al., “MALE CIRCUMCISION IS NOT THE HIV ‘VACCINE’ WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!”, Future Medicine 2 (2008); 193-199.
9. Kim, D., and Pang, M., “THE EFFECT OF MALE CIRCUMCISION ON SEXUALITY”. British Journal of Urology International 99 (2007); 619-622.
10. Sorrells, M., et al., “FINE-TOUCH PRESSURE THRESHOLDS IN THE ADULT PENIS”, British Journal of Urology International 99 (2007); 864-869.
11. Goldman, R., “CCIRCUMCISION POLICY: A PSYCHOSOCIAL PERSPECTIVE”‘ Paediatrics & Child Health 9 (2004); 630-633.
12. Van Howe, R., “A COST-UTILITY ANALYSIS OF NEONATAL CIRCUMCISION”, Medical Decision Making 24 (2004); 584-601.
13. Boyle, G, et al., “MALE CIRCUMCISION: PAIN, TRAUMA AND PSYCHOSEXUAL SEQUELAE”, Journal of Health Psychology (2002); 329-343.
14. Taylor, J. et al., “THE PREPUCE: SPECIALIZED MUCOSA OF THE PENIS AND ITS LOSS TO CIRCUMCISION”, British Journal of Urology International 77 (1996); 291-295.
15. Laumann, E., et al., “CIRCUMCISION IN THE U.S.: PREVALENCE, PROPHYLACTIC EFFECTS, AND SEXUAL PRACTICE”, Journal of the American Medical Association 277 (1997);1052-1057.
16. Taddio, A., et al., “EFFECT OF NEONATAL CIRCUMCISION ON PAIN RESPONSE DURING SUBSEQUENT ROUTINE VACCINATION”, The Lancet 349 (1997); 599-603.
17. Lander, J., et al., “COMPARISON OF RING BLOCK, DORSAL PENILE NERVE BLOCK AND TOPICAL ANESTHESIA FOR NEONATAL CIRCUMCISION”, Journal of the American Medical Association 278 (1997); 2157-2162.
18. Van Howe, R., “VARIABILITY IN PENILE APEARANCE AND PENILE FINDINGS: A PROSPECTIVE STUDY”, British Journal of Urology 80 (1997); 776-782.
19. Hammond, T., “A PRELIMINARY POLL OF MEN CIRCUMCISED IN INFANCY OR CHILDHOOD”, British Journal of Urology 83 (1999); suppl.1:85-92.
20. Goldman, R., “THE PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT OF CIRCUMCISION”, British Journal of Urology 83 (1999); supple. 1:93-102.
21. Cold, C., and Taylor, J. “THE PREPUCE”, British Journal Of Urology 83 (1999); suppl. 1:34-44.
22. O’Hara, K., and O’Hara, J. “THE EFFECT OF MALE CIRCUMCISION ON THE SEXUAL ENJOYMENT OF THE FEMALE PARTNER”, British Journal of Urology 83 (1999); supple. 1: 79-84.
23. Boyle, G., and Bensley G., “ADVERSE SEXUAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF MALE INFANT CIRCUMCISION”, Psychological Reports 88 (2001); 1105-1106.
24. Taves, D., “THE INTROMISSION FUNCTION OF THE FORESKIN”, Med Hypotheses 59 (2002): 180.
25. Fink, K., Carson, C., and DeVellis R., “ADULT CIRCUMCISION OUTCOMES STUDY: EFFECTS ON ERECTILE FUNCTION, PENILE SENSITIVITY, SEXUAL ACTIVITY AND SATISFACTION”, Journal of Urology 167 (2002): 2113-2116.
26. Bensley G., and Boyle, G. “EFFECTS OF MALE CIRCUMCISION ON FEMALE AROUSAL AND ORGASM”, New Zealand Medical Journal 116 (2003): 595-596.

Access to these medical journal may be difficult, but abstracts of the articles are readily available on the Internet.
It is hard to believe that so many refereed scientific articles proving the lack of benefit and the harm caused by circumcision are ignored, while poorly substantiated claims of benefits are summarily accepted.

By: HAY

HAY — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:40:38 +0000

@ALAN – Ok advance is the wrong word, but it is exposing a part that intact males only expose during arousal, so it appears inappropriate to us. In ancient Greece men were nude at the gymnasium, during wrestling, the olympics etc and showing one’s glans was considered the height of bad manners because of this insinuation of arousal. You were never considered truly naked unless the foreskin was retracted. Foreskin restoration techniques were invented at this time by Jewish men wishing to live in Greece, when the rabbis found out this was going on they invented the much more severe Brit Milah which removes the entire foreskin not just the tip, this is the circumcision style practiced today.

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:08:28 +0000

@Hay: “To intact men the circumcised penis in the communal shower is like a homosexual advance.” Thanks for the heads up!

By: HAY

HAY — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:02:12 +0000

@ALAN – There are many varieties of FGM, in S.E Asia they only remove the clitoral prepuce or “foreskin” making the procedure completely analogous with male circ. Some cultures only remove a couple mm of clitoris. Even when the whole clitoral glans is removed women are usually still able to orgasm because the vast majority of the clitoris is an internal organ with two “legs”that extend all the way to the perineum below the labia majora. Women may also have vaginal orgasms. Maimonedes and other Jewish scholars USED TO admit that the purpose of male circ was to REDUCE sexual pleasure and therefore desire. Run your fingers very lightly over the back of your hand, now do the same with your palm. The difference is the fine touch nerves. They aren’t found on the glans but the “ridged band” of the foreskin contains 20,000 of them. Circ was introduced to the USA by sex-phobic Victorian doctors along with clitoridectomy to reduce the pleasure of masturbation. After circ the glans dries out and develops a thick layer of skin to protect itself, this progressively reduces sensation over the lifetime. Male and female circ are more similar than you ever thought.

By: HAY

HAY — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 02:44:32 +0000

@ALAN: “I’ve seen my share of uncircumcised penises in locker rooms. I think mine looks a lot nicer.” The first time I saw a circumcised penis aged 11 my thought was what the hell is wrong with it? It had a brown scar around it and the head looked kind of…ill – it was the wrong colour, pale white with almost a bluish tinge. I simultaneously disgust and pity for the boy. To intact men the circumcised penis in the communal shower is like a homosexual advance. Our glans is only exposed during erection, so when you walk into a communal shower with it exposed it is highly inappropriate behaviour, like having a semi-erection in the mens’ changing room would be to us. The situation is even worse with babys, for them to be cut so as to appear to be permanently sexually aroused is, to us, perverse. The foreskin preserves our modesty until we are ready for intimacy, the way we feel about your penis is the way the Greeks did -”put it away”!

By: ginger

ginger — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:59:49 +0000

@max

Ever hear of using a condom rather than the reduction in incidence claimed by this article in SubSaharan Africa?

Use of a condom has a much higher efficacy than circumcision without condom use

It’s a ridiculous and/or desperate study and conclusion

By: max

max — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:24:33 +0000

@ginger – “There is no medical indication for this ritual”
Search “WHO circumcision” to learn and correct your mistake. But as I posted it a few lines above, I guess reading isn’t one of your preferred activities.
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In any case you miss the point, which isn’t whether or not circumcision is a good thing but whether or not this decision should fall within a state’s jurisdiction