Comments on: Settler kidnaps, tortures Palestinian kid, gets 18 months

By: Meir Gush Etzion

Meir Gush Etzion — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:34:07 +0000

Ynet reports that his sentence has just been extended..http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4268094,00.html

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 00:07:43 +0000

Ynetnews, Published: 01.13.09: Zero tolerance for stone-throwing: Three residents of the northern village of Bir al-Machsur, just off Highway 79, were sentences to lengthy jail terms Tuesday after being convicted of stoning cars. [At least 2 were damaged]

Haifa District Court Judge Oded Gershon ruled that the court “must not be lenient on such offenses,” and ordered sentences raging from 15 to 21 months.

By: max

max — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:20:17 +0000

I’m a bit lost… We have here 2 instances of legal cases, referring to 2 distinct legal categories, judged by 2 different panels of judges, in a country that’s generally considered as having a strong legal system, and we jump to systemic conclusions? Do we expect a computer-based legal system?

I’d strongly suspect that Israeli judges are biased, despite – I hope – trying not to be. However, the way to address such problems is certainly not by comments that only ridicule a potentially real grievance

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:31:04 +0000

Jack: There was an accusation of violent rape by an emotionally unstable young woman with a history of lies and prostitution. The problem of prosecutors was not that the trial would be too much for her emotional state, but that she was a very impeachable witness. What really happened can be only guessed, but sentences are based on what is proven, plus, apparently, guesses of the judge.

Perhaps a more fair summary is 18 months for guessed brutality (I do not recall physical evidence being available), and 18 months for totally undeniable brutality that bordered with attempted murder. Plus, what happened to the accomplice of Zvi Strock?

Amin: this is quite ridiculous. Muslim countries have their share of problems with the justice systems. And you sound like Hasbara provocator which is silly regardless if you are one or not.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:54:54 +0000

For how long jewish everywhere in the world will allowed the state of Israel make dirty their name????????

By: Amin Nusseibeh

Amin Nusseibeh — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:36:35 +0000

This story isnt even news because it is typical for ziostan. Yossi, how long will you continue being part of this injustice. Give up your israeli citizenship but keep writing. By retaining your citizenship, you indirectly support these injustices

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:29:41 +0000

Piotr- that rape by deception case actually turned out to be much different. More like the woman claimed she was brutally raped but because of her fragile emotional state and unhealthy psychological profile they knew they could not convict the guy of a brutally violent rape so they gave him 18 months instead with this “rape by deception” bullsh*t. So its more like the courts thought a brutal and violent rape = what this kid did. They just gave him this plea bargain to avoid putting the woman on the stand and having her entire sexual history put on trial including the time she worked as a prostitute. Read Lisa Goldman’s reporting on it here:

http://lisagoldman.net/2010/09/06/a-rapist-who-dodged-jail-or-a-man-unjustly-accused-because-he-was-palestinian/

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:21:24 +0000

[July 21, 2010|By the CNN Wire Staff] The lawyer for a 30-year-old Palestinian married father of two who has admitted in a plea bargain to rape by deception said Wednesday he will appeal his client’s sentence, which was handed up Monday.”Eighteen months in prison is too much,” said Adnan Aladdin. He is representing Saber Kashour, the Israeli Palestinian who admitted pretending to be a single Jewish man before having sex with an Israeli woman.

So killing sheep, kidnapping and beating someone senseless is about as bad as getting laid by telling false stories.

By: micky

micky — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:10:16 +0000

What kind of a person would do this? Is he nuts? What was the reaction of his fellow settlers? Are people like him ostracized? As far as the sentence, you cited a legal article that called for 20 years but I take it the judge had discretion to reduce the sentence — did he cite extenuating circumstances or is the 20 year provision just a guideline that is rarely followed?

By: David EHG

David EHG — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:55:59 +0000

This does appear, on first blush, to be a inappropriate sentence.

However, it would be helpful to have a comparative analysis of sentences for similar crimes committed by Palestinians.

Without that, all I can do is speculate.