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	<title>Comments on: Rebecca Vilkomerson thinks that BDS is both legitimate and effective</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/rebecca-vilkomerson-boycott-is-both-legitimate-and-effective/12184/comment-page-1/#comment-8332</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A video in which a BDS organizer talks clearly what BDS is about for her. Clearly the destruction of Israel as we know it, as I understand the lady.
 check it out
http://vimeo.com/16874462
  This video of a prominent BDS/anti-Israel campaigner in the US North West brings up some important points. Namely the apparent confusion or disinformation amongst some regarding the precise aims.
 For me the BDS people range from Iran Mullahs, to Hamas, to Western academics, to &quot;human rights&quot; people, to desperate activists and just plain house mums. A rather motley crew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A video in which a BDS organizer talks clearly what BDS is about for her. Clearly the destruction of Israel as we know it, as I understand the lady.<br />
 check it out<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/16874462" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/16874462</a><br />
  This video of a prominent BDS/anti-Israel campaigner in the US North West brings up some important points. Namely the apparent confusion or disinformation amongst some regarding the precise aims.<br />
 For me the BDS people range from Iran Mullahs, to Hamas, to Western academics, to &#8220;human rights&#8221; people, to desperate activists and just plain house mums. A rather motley crew.</p>
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		<title>By: RichardNYC</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/rebecca-vilkomerson-boycott-is-both-legitimate-and-effective/12184/comment-page-1/#comment-7611</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no need to discuss whether BDS is a legitimate tactic because its state goals are not. The &quot;right of return&quot; is not sanctioned under international law, so why take any measures, peaceful or not, to implement it? A few minutes of scrutiny of Omar Bargouti&#039;s statements reveals that BDS is an attempt to galvanize opposition to the occupation into a campaign to boycott Israel out of existence. He makes this perfectly clear. So what are you arguing about tactics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no need to discuss whether BDS is a legitimate tactic because its state goals are not. The &#8220;right of return&#8221; is not sanctioned under international law, so why take any measures, peaceful or not, to implement it? A few minutes of scrutiny of Omar Bargouti&#8217;s statements reveals that BDS is an attempt to galvanize opposition to the occupation into a campaign to boycott Israel out of existence. He makes this perfectly clear. So what are you arguing about tactics?</p>
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		<title>By: Yitzhak</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/rebecca-vilkomerson-boycott-is-both-legitimate-and-effective/12184/comment-page-1/#comment-7260</link>
		<dc:creator>Yitzhak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 01:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I support BDS and find it very effective for an additional reason. “Israel” is an illegitimate nation founded on the theft of land from the Palestinians. Therefore, everything produced in “israel” is illegitimate and stolen property. All of its so called accomplishments in medicine and technology are thus fraudulent. One of my friends with multiple sclerosis wont take copaxone because it is made in “israel”

By that logic, you should be sure to not use any products that are produced in the United States. Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I support BDS and find it very effective for an additional reason. “Israel” is an illegitimate nation founded on the theft of land from the Palestinians. Therefore, everything produced in “israel” is illegitimate and stolen property. All of its so called accomplishments in medicine and technology are thus fraudulent. One of my friends with multiple sclerosis wont take copaxone because it is made in “israel”</p>
<p>By that logic, you should be sure to not use any products that are produced in the United States. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Israel</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/rebecca-vilkomerson-boycott-is-both-legitimate-and-effective/12184/comment-page-1/#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nusseibeh-Dream on. I personally know dozens of Jews who made aliyah (immigrated) to Israel from the US, France, UK and other WESTERN countries. Aliyah is INCREASING from western countries. Israel is doing fine and will even do better. Maybe if you get over your jealousy we could even make peace sometime. You would only benefit from it.  One of the reaons the Arab countries are so far behind is because of the tendency to nurse ancient grievances for generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nusseibeh-Dream on. I personally know dozens of Jews who made aliyah (immigrated) to Israel from the US, France, UK and other WESTERN countries. Aliyah is INCREASING from western countries. Israel is doing fine and will even do better. Maybe if you get over your jealousy we could even make peace sometime. You would only benefit from it.  One of the reaons the Arab countries are so far behind is because of the tendency to nurse ancient grievances for generations.</p>
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		<title>By: The lonely pigeon</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/rebecca-vilkomerson-boycott-is-both-legitimate-and-effective/12184/comment-page-1/#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator>The lonely pigeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why to boycott products from Israel or the west bank when you can do much more effective non-Violante acts ? 

you can ban all the export to Israel. 
that way they will realize the term civil rights.

Libya too. -and Egypt
-and Qatar
- and Syria and Saudi Arabia
...Oh wait, too much oil at risk. 

you can&#039;t banned them.
sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why to boycott products from Israel or the west bank when you can do much more effective non-Violante acts ? </p>
<p>you can ban all the export to Israel.<br />
that way they will realize the term civil rights.</p>
<p>Libya too. -and Egypt<br />
-and Qatar<br />
- and Syria and Saudi Arabia<br />
&#8230;Oh wait, too much oil at risk. </p>
<p>you can&#8217;t banned them.<br />
sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: BDS only in the OPT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BDS only in the OPT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is clear - and the &quot;one Palestine from the river to the sea&quot; posts clarify it, since Rebecca Vilkomerson chose to avoid it in her speech. BDS does not distinguish between the legitimate existence of a state of Israel and the illegitimate occupation of territories conquered in 1967 and prevention of Palestinian self-determination there. Israelis have a legitimate concern about that, because millions of people continue to aspire to the destruction of the entire state of Israel, as Amin Nusseibeh would like us to understand. If BDS was clearly and decisively targeted only at the occupied territories and companies/institutions that quite clearly and directly participate in the occupation - it would win much more support among Jews, Israelis and people who recognize the legitimate existence of a state of Israel. But that is not what they are interested in - they don&#039;t care about those constituencies in the slightest, and that is why Jewish supporters of BDS are and will remain a marginal minority. And to argue that Meretz USA supports BDS is disingenuous - they, like most left Jewish/Israeli groups, support BDS specifically targeted against the occupation and they oppose a sweeping boycott of Israel and Israelis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is clear &#8211; and the &#8220;one Palestine from the river to the sea&#8221; posts clarify it, since Rebecca Vilkomerson chose to avoid it in her speech. BDS does not distinguish between the legitimate existence of a state of Israel and the illegitimate occupation of territories conquered in 1967 and prevention of Palestinian self-determination there. Israelis have a legitimate concern about that, because millions of people continue to aspire to the destruction of the entire state of Israel, as Amin Nusseibeh would like us to understand. If BDS was clearly and decisively targeted only at the occupied territories and companies/institutions that quite clearly and directly participate in the occupation &#8211; it would win much more support among Jews, Israelis and people who recognize the legitimate existence of a state of Israel. But that is not what they are interested in &#8211; they don&#8217;t care about those constituencies in the slightest, and that is why Jewish supporters of BDS are and will remain a marginal minority. And to argue that Meretz USA supports BDS is disingenuous &#8211; they, like most left Jewish/Israeli groups, support BDS specifically targeted against the occupation and they oppose a sweeping boycott of Israel and Israelis.</p>
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		<title>By: Amin Nusseibeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amin Nusseibeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend has no problem with me visiting this site. I have high hopes for this site, because it might convince other israelis that the zionist experiment is over. If 972 magazine can convince 6 million &quot;israelis&quot; to follow the example of exisraeli and shoded yam and leave Occupied Palestine, it would earn the Nobel Peace Prize</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend has no problem with me visiting this site. I have high hopes for this site, because it might convince other israelis that the zionist experiment is over. If 972 magazine can convince 6 million &#8220;israelis&#8221; to follow the example of exisraeli and shoded yam and leave Occupied Palestine, it would earn the Nobel Peace Prize</p>
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		<title>By: aristeides</title>
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		<dc:creator>aristeides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.Silznick - your assumption is faulty.  The BDS movement is divided on this point.  While many advocates of BDS want to limit the boycott to the occupied territories, other, more clear-eyed advocates recognize that the problem of the occupation lies in the official Israeli institutions that support it, and thus extend their BDS activity to the entire state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.Silznick &#8211; your assumption is faulty.  The BDS movement is divided on this point.  While many advocates of BDS want to limit the boycott to the occupied territories, other, more clear-eyed advocates recognize that the problem of the occupation lies in the official Israeli institutions that support it, and thus extend their BDS activity to the entire state.</p>
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		<title>By: O.Selznick</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.Selznick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Noam Sheizaf - I think theres a growing need to stress the point that BDS applies only for products and services inside the territories. 
theres alot of confuesion on that point - hence Amin&#039;s remark. also, it would get broader exceptance in Israeli society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Noam Sheizaf &#8211; I think theres a growing need to stress the point that BDS applies only for products and services inside the territories.<br />
theres alot of confuesion on that point &#8211; hence Amin&#8217;s remark. also, it would get broader exceptance in Israeli society.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1967, just before the Six-Day War, France announced it was halting the shipment of military supplies to Israel, including those that it was under contract to continue to supply. Nasser interpreted this as France cutting Israel loose, so he escalated his threats against Israel.
After the war, Israel secretly was able to get the Dabur-class gunboats already bought and paid for out of Cherbourg harbor and bring them to Israel. Also, as a result of the French embargo, Israel developed its own military industries which later provided the springboard for the development of its world-class high-tech industries.

Mi She&#039;yavin, yavin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1967, just before the Six-Day War, France announced it was halting the shipment of military supplies to Israel, including those that it was under contract to continue to supply. Nasser interpreted this as France cutting Israel loose, so he escalated his threats against Israel.<br />
After the war, Israel secretly was able to get the Dabur-class gunboats already bought and paid for out of Cherbourg harbor and bring them to Israel. Also, as a result of the French embargo, Israel developed its own military industries which later provided the springboard for the development of its world-class high-tech industries.</p>
<p>Mi She&#8217;yavin, yavin.</p>
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