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	<title>Comments on: Quiet! They&#8217;re memorializing the Holocaust</title>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/quiet-theyre-memorializing-the-holocaust/56907/comment-page-1/#comment-82499</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mr. Derfner is correct. We should, instead, memorize the holocaust by reminding everybody how &quot;Zionists ran the death camps&quot; and how Gaza is &quot;worse than Auschwitz&quot;. This is what Ms. Berlin, of the &quot;Free Gaza&quot; movement, declares, and predictably Derfner rushed to her defense against those who &quot;slander&quot; her by showing the world what she wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mr. Derfner is correct. We should, instead, memorize the holocaust by reminding everybody how &#8220;Zionists ran the death camps&#8221; and how Gaza is &#8220;worse than Auschwitz&#8221;. This is what Ms. Berlin, of the &#8220;Free Gaza&#8221; movement, declares, and predictably Derfner rushed to her defense against those who &#8220;slander&#8221; her by showing the world what she wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Linder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a survivor and you are grotesque in your imbecilic hatred of Israel and Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a survivor and you are grotesque in your imbecilic hatred of Israel and Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 03:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These people obviously feel strongly about what they’re doing; what right do I have to judge them?&quot;

None.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These people obviously feel strongly about what they’re doing; what right do I have to judge them?&#8221;</p>
<p>None.</p>
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		<title>By: Schmok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 08:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birthright for the Diaspora and trips to Auschwitz for the jewish Israeli youth have one in common: both is used to produce a national feeling, a connection to Israel. But: It&#039;s the same everywhere in the world. States shape their people and make them think that the &#039;their&quot; state is &#039;special&#039; and the institution made especially for them. Pure Nationalism. Crying is the way, the goal is to produce &#039;workers&#039; and &#039;soldiers&#039;, who place themselves into the service of the nation without recognicing that they turn the world upside down by doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birthright for the Diaspora and trips to Auschwitz for the jewish Israeli youth have one in common: both is used to produce a national feeling, a connection to Israel. But: It&#8217;s the same everywhere in the world. States shape their people and make them think that the &#8216;their&#8221; state is &#8216;special&#8217; and the institution made especially for them. Pure Nationalism. Crying is the way, the goal is to produce &#8216;workers&#8217; and &#8216;soldiers&#8217;, who place themselves into the service of the nation without recognicing that they turn the world upside down by doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the rest of the world even picked up on it for their own tragedy entertainments&quot; - don&#039;t worry, it was not such an issue in Western Europe... so the outreach to the world was rather limited...

@Larry: &quot;shtum&quot; - is this the Yiddish word for &quot;silent&quot;? Interesting, it&#039;s written &quot;stumm&quot; in contemporaneous German. By the way: interesting thoughts you develop here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the rest of the world even picked up on it for their own tragedy entertainments&#8221; &#8211; don&#8217;t worry, it was not such an issue in Western Europe&#8230; so the outreach to the world was rather limited&#8230;</p>
<p>@Larry: &#8220;shtum&#8221; &#8211; is this the Yiddish word for &#8220;silent&#8221;? Interesting, it&#8217;s written &#8220;stumm&#8221; in contemporaneous German. By the way: interesting thoughts you develop here.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron the Fascist Troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron the Fascist Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked &lt;i&gt;Defamation&lt;/i&gt;, and I thought the Auschwitz part was pretty disturbing, too. Holocaust porn.

I just hope my kids don&#039;t want to go on one of these crying vacations when they get to be that age, but they probably will because all their friends will go. Still, I don&#039;t think the kids&#039; psyches are damaged. Auschwitz is just one more piece of a degraded entertainment culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked <i>Defamation</i>, and I thought the Auschwitz part was pretty disturbing, too. Holocaust porn.</p>
<p>I just hope my kids don&#8217;t want to go on one of these crying vacations when they get to be that age, but they probably will because all their friends will go. Still, I don&#8217;t think the kids&#8217; psyches are damaged. Auschwitz is just one more piece of a degraded entertainment culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron is right, this is very kitschy.  I found the film &quot;Defamation&quot; extremely disturbing, these Auschwitz trips appear to be damaging the psyches of Israeli youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron is right, this is very kitschy.  I found the film &#8220;Defamation&#8221; extremely disturbing, these Auschwitz trips appear to be damaging the psyches of Israeli youth.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to call it the hollow cost. Or if you really want to get creative: The shoah must go on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to call it the hollow cost. Or if you really want to get creative: The shoah must go on!</p>
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		<title>By: miker</title>
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		<dc:creator>miker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this will save someone some time someday...sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this will save someone some time someday&#8230;sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron the Fascist Troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron the Fascist Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the Holocaust industry, it&#039;s Holokitsch. The two are distinct phenomena.

Seems to me that Israeli Youth have a history of exporting bad taste to the world. Think of all the tasteless Youth kitsch after the Rabin assassination: the candles, the songs, sheesh, give me a break. And the rest of the world even picked up on it for their own tragedy entertainments. Anyway, I hope these tattoos don&#039;t catch on with the diaspora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the Holocaust industry, it&#8217;s Holokitsch. The two are distinct phenomena.</p>
<p>Seems to me that Israeli Youth have a history of exporting bad taste to the world. Think of all the tasteless Youth kitsch after the Rabin assassination: the candles, the songs, sheesh, give me a break. And the rest of the world even picked up on it for their own tragedy entertainments. Anyway, I hope these tattoos don&#8217;t catch on with the diaspora.</p>
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