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	<title>Comments on: President Obama to GA: Palestinians &amp; Israelis must work it out on their own</title>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 07:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Annie
And what about this? Is this what you call Israeli apartheid? ...
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&quot;The video below tells the heart warming story about two-year-old Wallah Omar from Gaza City who recently finished an exhausting series of radiation treatments at Haifa’s Rambam Hospital. Seeing the recovery of this young Arab girl in the hands of Jewish Israeli doctors can’t help but bring a smile to your face.
It is also interesting to note that the girl’s father says that he knew from the start that the Israelis would provide his daughter with excellent care&quot;
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http://unitedwithisrael.org/israeli-hospital-saves-arab-girls-life/
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I bet that the parents of little Mohammed Nabil Taha, the 11-year-old Palestinian boy in Lebanon would have loved to experience the Israeli version of apartheid. But all you can say &quot;no&quot; you are not happy about Lebanon them proceed on your merry way to demonize Israel. How about joining a Lebanese blog instead and lambasting the Lebanese government? Or is that not as fashionable in your political circle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Annie<br />
And what about this? Is this what you call Israeli apartheid? &#8230;<br />
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&#8220;The video below tells the heart warming story about two-year-old Wallah Omar from Gaza City who recently finished an exhausting series of radiation treatments at Haifa’s Rambam Hospital. Seeing the recovery of this young Arab girl in the hands of Jewish Israeli doctors can’t help but bring a smile to your face.<br />
It is also interesting to note that the girl’s father says that he knew from the start that the Israelis would provide his daughter with excellent care&#8221;<br />
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<a href="http://unitedwithisrael.org/israeli-hospital-saves-arab-girls-life/" rel="nofollow">http://unitedwithisrael.org/israeli-hospital-saves-arab-girls-life/</a><br />
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I bet that the parents of little Mohammed Nabil Taha, the 11-year-old Palestinian boy in Lebanon would have loved to experience the Israeli version of apartheid. But all you can say &#8220;no&#8221; you are not happy about Lebanon them proceed on your merry way to demonize Israel. How about joining a Lebanese blog instead and lambasting the Lebanese government? Or is that not as fashionable in your political circle?</p>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Annie
By the way, did you know that in Israel, Israeli Arabs are entitled to the same medical care, as all Israeli citizens? Here read about the Israeli system -
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http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe
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Compare that to Lebanon, Annie. Which one is the real apartheid system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Annie<br />
By the way, did you know that in Israel, Israeli Arabs are entitled to the same medical care, as all Israeli citizens? Here read about the Israeli system -<br />
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<a href="http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe" rel="nofollow">http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe</a><br />
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Compare that to Lebanon, Annie. Which one is the real apartheid system?</p>
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		<title>By: Khalilah Sabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khalilah Sabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Peace will not come through statements and resolutions at the United Nations,&quot; Obama said. This may be true, but it has yet to be tried and tested. What we do know is that peace has not come through the diplomatic wrangling of the United States.  The current president of the United States would rather continue the myth of progress initiated by those who sat in the White House before him, a myth that includes a sense of self-awarded respite from concern for those who are in lethal trouble on the part of those who aren’t. 

The President says, &quot;One year ago, I stood at this podium and called for an independent Palestine. I believed then – and I believe now – that the Palestinian people deserve a state of their own. But what I also said is that genuine peace can only be realized between Israelis and Palestinians themselves.&quot; His words, unfortunately, are like mental illness - there is no basis for optimism. The Middle East peace process has only allowed the Palestinian people to fall a little bit deeper into despair and oppression, dying amid useless dialogue and nonstop occupation. Death, torture, refugee camps, more settlements, an apartheid wall and the passage of time are evidence that the Palestinian people are not free, but worse - they have not been treated human. It is more sickening, more repulsive, when this optimism comes from those who are so well-informed and cannot recognize that they are lying to themselves while the Palestinian people are being annihilated. 

The President does not say, “It is a fact that loyalties cannot be built on a framework of moral disloyalty. Human need is not answered by mere ideas, which has been the only thing offered to the Palestinian people.” If the president should make this kind of statement, and if other world leaders gave up the will to be silent and respectful, things might finally change and there would be no reason to believe that they are committing political treason or continue to corroborate in the lie that has continued for more than 60 years. 


The President says, &quot;Ultimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians who must live side by side,&quot; He says,  &quot;Ultimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians – not us – who must reach agreement on the issues that divide them: on borders and security; on refugees and Jerusalem.&quot; If it were any other situation, we might be able to believe that these words are backed by sincerity and raw truth and not on behalf of those who have cash and power or who have the advantage of the hour.  
The President says &quot;Israel deserves recognition. It deserves normal relations with its neighbors.” He did not say that the Palestinians deserve recognition or that the Palestinians deserve liberty and justice. 
Here alone is where we must stop pretending that serious changes will occur within the lives of those under occupation, without the need for unjust ideals to be altered. The end results of this conflict are tied directly to the value of America’s contribution; this obviously means much less, especially when impartiality and fairness are so obviously missing. It&#039;s time for the UN to do more and the US to do less. 







Khalilah Sabra
MAS Immigrant Justice Center</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Peace will not come through statements and resolutions at the United Nations,&#8221; Obama said. This may be true, but it has yet to be tried and tested. What we do know is that peace has not come through the diplomatic wrangling of the United States.  The current president of the United States would rather continue the myth of progress initiated by those who sat in the White House before him, a myth that includes a sense of self-awarded respite from concern for those who are in lethal trouble on the part of those who aren’t. </p>
<p>The President says, &#8220;One year ago, I stood at this podium and called for an independent Palestine. I believed then – and I believe now – that the Palestinian people deserve a state of their own. But what I also said is that genuine peace can only be realized between Israelis and Palestinians themselves.&#8221; His words, unfortunately, are like mental illness &#8211; there is no basis for optimism. The Middle East peace process has only allowed the Palestinian people to fall a little bit deeper into despair and oppression, dying amid useless dialogue and nonstop occupation. Death, torture, refugee camps, more settlements, an apartheid wall and the passage of time are evidence that the Palestinian people are not free, but worse &#8211; they have not been treated human. It is more sickening, more repulsive, when this optimism comes from those who are so well-informed and cannot recognize that they are lying to themselves while the Palestinian people are being annihilated. </p>
<p>The President does not say, “It is a fact that loyalties cannot be built on a framework of moral disloyalty. Human need is not answered by mere ideas, which has been the only thing offered to the Palestinian people.” If the president should make this kind of statement, and if other world leaders gave up the will to be silent and respectful, things might finally change and there would be no reason to believe that they are committing political treason or continue to corroborate in the lie that has continued for more than 60 years. </p>
<p>The President says, &#8220;Ultimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians who must live side by side,&#8221; He says,  &#8220;Ultimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians – not us – who must reach agreement on the issues that divide them: on borders and security; on refugees and Jerusalem.&#8221; If it were any other situation, we might be able to believe that these words are backed by sincerity and raw truth and not on behalf of those who have cash and power or who have the advantage of the hour.<br />
The President says &#8220;Israel deserves recognition. It deserves normal relations with its neighbors.” He did not say that the Palestinians deserve recognition or that the Palestinians deserve liberty and justice.<br />
Here alone is where we must stop pretending that serious changes will occur within the lives of those under occupation, without the need for unjust ideals to be altered. The end results of this conflict are tied directly to the value of America’s contribution; this obviously means much less, especially when impartiality and fairness are so obviously missing. It&#8217;s time for the UN to do more and the US to do less. </p>
<p>Khalilah Sabra<br />
MAS Immigrant Justice Center</p>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Annie
By the way, did you know that in Israel, Israeli Arabs are entitled to the same medical care, as all Israeli citizens? Here read about the Israeli system ...
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http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe
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Compare that to Lebanon, Annie. Which one is the real apartheid system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Annie<br />
By the way, did you know that in Israel, Israeli Arabs are entitled to the same medical care, as all Israeli citizens? Here read about the Israeli system &#8230;<br />
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<a href="http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe" rel="nofollow">http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Israel%20at%2050/The%20Health%20Care%20System%20in%20Israel-%20An%20Historical%20Pe</a><br />
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Compare that to Lebanon, Annie. Which one is the real apartheid system?</p>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie says ...
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&quot;nice divert bosko, anything will do as long as there’s no israeli complicity i presume. am i happy about lebanon? no. 
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Never mind about my divert. We know what you are doing about so called apartheid in Israel. You are bitching about it like there is no tomorrow. But what are you doing about REAL apartheid? In particular in Arab countries. Where are you bitching about apartheid amongst them? 
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Annie also says ...
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&quot;btw, poor people die in the US for lack of medical too&quot;
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That can&#039;t be good. You should be scandalised about that. But it&#039;s not the same as what is happening in Lebanon. In Lebanon, your poor Palestinians, are kept poor, deliberately, precisely BECAUSE they are Palestinians. No other reason. Just because the Lebanese government want Palestinians to be a cannon fodder in the war against Israel. Now, that is REAL apartheid, Annie but you are just cursorily dismiss it because you only want to bitch about Israel. It is more fashionable in your political circle, isn&#039;t it Annie? But is what ypu are doing likely to help or hinder Palestimian people? I say the latter ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie says &#8230;<br />
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&#8220;nice divert bosko, anything will do as long as there’s no israeli complicity i presume. am i happy about lebanon? no.<br />
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Never mind about my divert. We know what you are doing about so called apartheid in Israel. You are bitching about it like there is no tomorrow. But what are you doing about REAL apartheid? In particular in Arab countries. Where are you bitching about apartheid amongst them?<br />
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Annie also says &#8230;<br />
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&#8220;btw, poor people die in the US for lack of medical too&#8221;<br />
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That can&#8217;t be good. You should be scandalised about that. But it&#8217;s not the same as what is happening in Lebanon. In Lebanon, your poor Palestinians, are kept poor, deliberately, precisely BECAUSE they are Palestinians. No other reason. Just because the Lebanese government want Palestinians to be a cannon fodder in the war against Israel. Now, that is REAL apartheid, Annie but you are just cursorily dismiss it because you only want to bitch about Israel. It is more fashionable in your political circle, isn&#8217;t it Annie? But is what ypu are doing likely to help or hinder Palestimian people? I say the latter &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that large majority of students COULDN’T CARE LESS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS&quot;

from what i&#039;ve heard the bds campaign is replacing the anti war movements on campus, which is exactly why &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.israelcc.org/home/about-us/faq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;israel on campus coalition&lt;/A&gt; exists. needless to say there was no need for this when i was in school.

&quot;A: For many campuses, the delegitimization of Israel and prevalence of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign is a real concern. To this end, ICC has mobilized its network of partner organizations and professionals to collaborate on countering-BDS materials. These materials include case studies, documents, resources, and best practices guides for campus and community professionals, and students dealing with delegitimization of Israel. With numerous contributors, the ICC’s materials provide a comprehensive, user-friendly resource to assist in important efforts on campus. Check out our resources for countering delegitimization (link to the page) or give us a call. We’re here to help&quot;

it&#039;s here, it&#039;s real, get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that large majority of students COULDN’T CARE LESS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS&#8221;</p>
<p>from what i&#8217;ve heard the bds campaign is replacing the anti war movements on campus, which is exactly why <a href="http://www.israelcc.org/home/about-us/faq" rel="nofollow">israel on campus coalition</a> exists. needless to say there was no need for this when i was in school.</p>
<p>&#8220;A: For many campuses, the delegitimization of Israel and prevalence of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign is a real concern. To this end, ICC has mobilized its network of partner organizations and professionals to collaborate on countering-BDS materials. These materials include case studies, documents, resources, and best practices guides for campus and community professionals, and students dealing with delegitimization of Israel. With numerous contributors, the ICC’s materials provide a comprehensive, user-friendly resource to assist in important efforts on campus. Check out our resources for countering delegitimization (link to the page) or give us a call. We’re here to help&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s here, it&#8217;s real, get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American politicians in areas that have small Jewish populations (i.e. most of them) support Israel because it is popular with their constituents.&quot;

this is funny. you should check out some of the little districts all across america with no jewish populations. even the desert in nevada where people couldn&#039;t find israel on a map. they never even discuss israel in their districts. you know why their politicians support israel? because if they don&#039;t the lobby dumps a ton of money into their opponents coffers in the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American politicians in areas that have small Jewish populations (i.e. most of them) support Israel because it is popular with their constituents.&#8221;</p>
<p>this is funny. you should check out some of the little districts all across america with no jewish populations. even the desert in nevada where people couldn&#8217;t find israel on a map. they never even discuss israel in their districts. you know why their politicians support israel? because if they don&#8217;t the lobby dumps a ton of money into their opponents coffers in the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice divert bosko, anything will do as long as there&#039;s no israeli complicity i presume. am i happy about lebanon? no. btw, poor people die in the US for lack of medical too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice divert bosko, anything will do as long as there&#8217;s no israeli complicity i presume. am i happy about lebanon? no. btw, poor people die in the US for lack of medical too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American politicians in areas that have small Jewish populations (i.e. most of them) support Israel because it is popular with their constituents. Polls show consistent support over many years and little support for the Palestinians. There has been no change for at least a decade. College campuses.....that large majority of students COULDN&#039;T CARE LESS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS... most are interested in passing exams, partying and getting dates. It is true that there is a very vocal &quot;progressive&quot; anti-Israel minority on campuses and, unfortunately, the pro-Israel people are not as active in making noise.
In any event, college campuses are not representative of American society at large.

Do you know how many times I have heard from you &quot;progressives&quot; that &quot;Americans have had it with Israel&quot;. This is so false yet you guys keep repeating it. In the 1970&#039;s the Arabs tried to blame Israel for the oil embargoes, yet the Americans blamed the Arabs and the oil companies, not Israel. Most of what you write here is simple wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American politicians in areas that have small Jewish populations (i.e. most of them) support Israel because it is popular with their constituents. Polls show consistent support over many years and little support for the Palestinians. There has been no change for at least a decade. College campuses&#8230;..that large majority of students COULDN&#8217;T CARE LESS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS&#8230; most are interested in passing exams, partying and getting dates. It is true that there is a very vocal &#8220;progressive&#8221; anti-Israel minority on campuses and, unfortunately, the pro-Israel people are not as active in making noise.<br />
In any event, college campuses are not representative of American society at large.</p>
<p>Do you know how many times I have heard from you &#8220;progressives&#8221; that &#8220;Americans have had it with Israel&#8221;. This is so false yet you guys keep repeating it. In the 1970&#8242;s the Arabs tried to blame Israel for the oil embargoes, yet the Americans blamed the Arabs and the oil companies, not Israel. Most of what you write here is simple wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie
They must have missed Arab apartheid then. Here read about it ...
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&quot;Mohammed Nabil Taha, an 11-year-old Palestinian boy, died this week at the entrance to a Lebanese hospital after doctors refused to help him because his family could not afford to pay for medical treatment.

Taha’s tragic case highlights the plight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who live in squalid refugee camps in Lebanon and who are the victims of an apartheid system that denies them access to work, education and medical care&quot;
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http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212512
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Written by Khaled Abu Toameh who is a Palestinian journalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie<br />
They must have missed Arab apartheid then. Here read about it &#8230;<br />
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&#8220;Mohammed Nabil Taha, an 11-year-old Palestinian boy, died this week at the entrance to a Lebanese hospital after doctors refused to help him because his family could not afford to pay for medical treatment.</p>
<p>Taha’s tragic case highlights the plight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who live in squalid refugee camps in Lebanon and who are the victims of an apartheid system that denies them access to work, education and medical care&#8221;<br />
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<a href="http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212512" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212512</a><br />
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Written by Khaled Abu Toameh who is a Palestinian journalist.</p>
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