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PM Netanyahu's Christmas message: We are better than the Arabs (WATCH)

We now open our Christmas celebrations with the traditional Islamophobic message from the Prime Minister’s Office:

While Prime Minister Netanyahu is using the holiday to present his tea-party talking points against anything Muslim, it’s a good time to remember that roughly 200,000 more than 170,000 Palestinian Christians are living under Israeli occupation in the West Bank, without proper political representation, freedom of travel, equality before the law, and many other civil and human rights. Unlike the Israeli prime minister, the occupation doesn’t know the difference between a Muslim and a Christian.

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    1. Philos

      I would hasten to add Noam that he mentions “religious pluralism” only a few days after women were arrested (again) at the Western Wall and a day after the Haifa rabbinate issued a ban on Christmas celebrations in the city.

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      • rsgengland

        Look in THE TELEGRAPH newspaper from ENGLAND to find a report on the state of CHRISTIANITY in the world today. Militant Islam is said to be the single greatest threat to Christianity today.
        The possibility of the Middle East, the birthplace of Christianity, becoming a Christian free zone is very real.
        The only exception is Israel, where the Christian community is free and expanding.

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    2. Khaled Khalid

      There was a time when Christians were bombarded with Guilt Trips about the Holocaust.

      At what point did Zionists move their propaganda machinery towards an “Us White People” better stick together against these Muslim Darkies? (Cue Melanie Philips, Jack Straw and the JDL)

      I suppose the political needs having been achieved moved onto a new objective: Getting Europeans to hate the Muslims, Colored People.

      Well that’s one way to get Europeans to stop talking about Israeli Human Rights Violations, Land grabbing on the West bank and lack of peace process on the part of the Israel’s Tea Party Zionists.

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      • Kolumn9

        9/11

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        • Khaled Khalid

          K9
          What about 9/11? I’m no more an Ex-CIA agent than you are a Mossad agent.

          Were you responsible for the Kurds being gased by Saddam? You know…the ones MOSSAD Agents were encouraging to rebel against Saddam Hussain, then disappeared after the Kurds got massacred.

          The Norway Massacre of teenagers by Anders Breivik? Jewish Defence League feeding that psycho about muslims taking over Europe because the Zionists though Europe wasn’t ass kissing like Washington was so Zionists spread hate mongering speeches to drunken right wing louts. Ohh yes the JDL ran for the hills after the massacre of all those Norwegian kids.

          If you are going to blame all muslims for 9/11 then should I blame YOU for the Global Financial Markets down turn? If we go by your rules and logic then Goldman Sachs, Rothschilds, etc are representatives of you and the Jewish nation??

          Why is it okay to be Racist towards all Muslims but it’s considered “Evil” to use that same logic towards Jews? Because you have White Skin?

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          • Kolumn9

            Never forget.

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        • aristeides

          cui bono

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    3. chester

      Bizarre interpretation of what is, by all accounts, a not particularly political message. To summarise this video as ‘Islamophobic’ is irresponsible reporting, and moreover, smells of slight hysteria.

      I am not a fan of this prime minister. In fact, I am a critic of Netanyahu, and find him to be cynical, manipulative and belligerent. But to say this video is ‘Islamophobic’ is pure nonsense. Let’s do better than this, guys.

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      • Robert P

        What is he implying when he says (falsely) that religious pluralism is cherished in Israel? He is implying that it is repressed in the Muslim world. This message is a direct appeal to widespread fears about Islam.

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        • Kolumn9

          He is implying that religious pluralism very much exists in Israel and is respected by the government and legal system.

          As for the Muslim world, the situation for Christians is often problematic, for example in Syria, Pakistan, Iraq and Egypt. The Christians face forced conversions, face restrictions on worship and have to live in fear of blasphemy laws. Feel free to do your own research. I will provide a link to the wikipedia article to get you started:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians#Muslim_world

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          • Kim

            Of all sites you used wiki? oh come on.

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    4. tamar

      ye right, קישקוש מקושקש

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    5. So aptly put, Noam. This is exactly what this “holiday message” is about. What a shameless racist liar Bibi is.

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    6. Darlene

      Did you leave out a zero in 20,000? The number is closer to 200,000 Christians in the West Bank!

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      • Yes, I dropped a zero. corrected, thanks.

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        • Kolumn9

          Are we playing pretend now? The numbers of 200,000 or even 170,000 Christians in the West Bank are not very likely to be anywhere close to reality. There are maybe 40,000 between Ramallah/Birzeit, Bethlehem, Beit Jala and Beit Sahour. The rest of the West Bank cities have very small numbers of Christians.

          Noam, the number of 170,000 in the West Bank is unsupportable.

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    7. D Laurier

      Natanyahoo is a racist thug. He is a zionist, and a war criminal.

      Zionism is a racist ideology that lies to, and exploits, jews for its own agenda. It was invented by christians.

      Palestine was guaranteed its freedom under the Husein MacMahon accord of 1915.
      Its time to do the right thing… Free Palestine.

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    8. Paul Fallows

      What a hypocrite and message from the Unholy land. The most Unchristian place on the Planet.This man is a War criminal.

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      • Elisabeth

        What is that all about Paul Fallows? The “most Unchristian place on the Planet”, the “Unholy land”?! Are you seeing the Anti-Christ somewhere? Is Israel the evil country of the people “who killed Christ”?

        “Over the top” is the kindest thing I can say about your posting.

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        • aristeides

          Where else do they threaten to close down restaurants if they host New Year’s parties because they think it’s a “Christian Holiday.”

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            Another lie by my anonymous friend “Aristeides”. There is a difference between a restaurant being closed down versus not getting a Kosher certificate. If a restaurant throws parties for New Years or Christmas, the latter will happen, but not the former. If there are enough clients who couldn’t care less whether or not a restaurant is Kosher (which in Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc. there are) then no worries. Free market is an interesting concept.

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          • aristeides

            Way to evade the point, MC. What point is that? The active Jewish hostility to Christianity in Israel, despite the hypocritical Netanyahoo’s message.

            In other countries, Jews celebrate Christmas by volunteering to take on essential jobs so their Christian neighbors can enjoy the holidy. In Israel, Jews say they can’t even enter a public establishment where other Jews are celebrating a holiday that has nothing to do with Christianity.

            A nation of intolerance.

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            What can POSSIBLY be your point Aristeides? Religious Jews only eat in restaurants that are Kosher. Secular Jews couldn’t care less and would eat in a restaurant that serves pork, is open on Shabbat, and celebrates lakookaracha. It has nothing to do with being hostile towards Christians. One thing I do know from your posts – YOU are hostile towards Jews/Judaism.

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          • aristeides

            One thing I know from your post’s, MC, is that you use “you are hostile to Jews” as an all purpose excuse for the ills that Israel has inflicted on Judaism.

            The issue is entirely about hostility to Christianity. It’s about Jews who won’t step foot into a kosher establishment because they suppose that other observant Jews might be eating there on a holiday they mistakenly believe to be Christian.

            There’s nothing about the situation but a hatred of Christianity so strong that any connection to it, no matter how remote and improbable, is considered a contamination.

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            Aristeides, you are full of baloney. There are posters on this site who are quite critical of Israel’s policies, yet I do not consider them to be anti-semites (Vicky, for example). You, on the other hand, have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have an axe to grind with Judaism (not just Israel). I have even seen quite liberal posters (who are VERY critical of Israel) turned off from your posts. At any rate, if you can’t understand that a religious Jew will not eat in a restaurant that doesn’t have a certificate of kashrut because anybody can say they are kosher and this has nothing to do with being “hostile towards Christians” then I have obviously been giving you more credit than you deserve (I thought you were at least an intelligent anti-semite, but now I am even doubting that)….

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          • aristeides

            Are you just thick, MC? Or deliberately playing stupid and offensive? Nothing you say has any bearing on the situation.

            These are kosher restaurants with kashrut certificates. The rabbinate is threatening to revoke the certificates because the kashrut inspector won’t go into the place on New Year’s because he might be contaminated with Christian cooties, even if all the celebrants are observant Jews.

            This is just one example of the anti-Christian bias spreading throughout Israel. Or we could talk about the spitters, how about that?

            This isn’t how Jews act in other countries. The problem isn’t with Jews, it’s with Israel, where Judaism has been corrupted with hate and intolerance.

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            Aristeides, first of all I am not an “MC”. I personally prefer classic 80s rock and Israeli music over rap. The name is Mitch (if Mitchell is too long for you).

            Second of all, I am glad to see that at least you backtracked from your lie, “that restaurants that celebrate New Years in Israel are closed down”. Congratulations on at least giving up that lie.

            Third of all, in order for a restaurant to be “kosher” (i.e. have the proper certificate), they have to pass a list of criteria. One of them is that they don’t publicly celebrate non-Jewish holiday, whether Christmas, secular New Years, Muslim holidays, Buddhist holidays, Scientologist holidays, etc. This is not “anti-Christian” anymore than a Church not throwing a party for Hannukah. And, yes, a restaurant in New York or Paris or Montreal or anywhere else in the world that celebrates the secular New Year or any other non-Jewish holiday would not get a kosher certificate. This is not an “Israeli” thing. I think I have explained this as much as possible (i.e. short of using a power point diagram with the cute arrows). Some people are just to thick to get through to or they have an agenda.

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            This is not “anti-Christian” anymore than a Church not throwing a party for Hannukah. SHOULD HAVE THE FOLLOWING WORDS ADDED: “is anti-Jewish”….

            PS, the overwhelming majority of Jewish Israelis couldn’t give a cr*p whether or not a restaurant has a kosher certificate and would probably jump on the chance to celebrate secular New Years, as most Israelis are always looking for a chance to party (the more the merrier). Anyway, I am done beating a dead horse.

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          • aristeides

            You know, MC, there are plenty of churches in many tolerant places that do celebrate Hannukah, and they host seders and engage in other ecumenical celebrations with Jews who don’t feel they’re contaminated by it.

            In Israel, there is growing intolerance of Christianity, but instead of acknowledging this problem, you drag out that tired old antisemitism bat to beat anyone who mentions the fact.

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          • Mitchell Cohen

            Nope. I am not out to convince or convert, just to point out blatant lies, like “In Israel any restaurant that celebrates New Years is closed down”. Have a nice day….

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    9. Sammur

      Insecure much, Bibi? The siege of the church of the nativity a few years back is certainly a testament to the level of tolerance you brag about. Dumba$$.

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    10. Kolumn9

      The Christian community in Israel is in fact growing and has full religious freedom. Both of these are not true in any other country in the Middle East as far as I know. So, everyone here that for some reason are offended by this message should really do just a little bit of research into the state of Christians in Syria, Iraq and Egypt or the treatment of Christians in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states.

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    11. The Trespasser

      Well,
      At one hand we have Israel – one of world’s most developed states, at other – all that pre-failure, failure or post-failure Arab states.

      Draw your own conclusions.

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      • un2here

        … at a yearly cost of $5 billion for the destruction of the Palestinians and €5 billion to keep them alive …

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    12. un2here

      Does this mean that the Christian refugees are welcome back now?

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    13. Aaron Gross

      Hey, Noam, none of those rights you mentioned are guaranteed by international law to members of occupied populations. Not one of them. All of those rights are limited and relative, not absolute. Even more: the occupant has the legal right to withhold every single one of those rights. It’s the law.

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      • directrob

        The ICJ does not buy your argument:

        … the Court examines provisions in some human rights conventions permitting derogation from, or qualifying, the rights guaranteed by those conventions, but finds, on the basis of the information available to it, that the conditions laid down by such provisions are not met in the present instance…

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        • Aaron Gross

          Some (not all) of the limitations are disputed, fair point. All limitations are allowed in principle, but there’s dispute over particular applications.

          Is your quote from the Wall ruling? If so, then (1) the ICJ had very little information available to it (“on the basis of information available”), because Israel refused to offer a defense and the ICJ, for whatever reason, did not actively seek information; and (2) the ICJ ruling in the Wall case was very general and did not consider the details of different geographical areas separately, as the Israeli Supreme Court did.

          But you’re right, just because these rights are limited and may be suspended, doesn’t mean that every suspension is legal.

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          • directrob

            It is from the wall ruling.

            The ruling tells us that occupation alone is not enough reason to suspend human rights.

            From article 4 of the convenant on civil and political rights we can also see that some rights can never be limited (for example no torture)

            As far as the Israeli high court rulings are concerned, I think they they do not explain (international) law in good faith.

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          • Aaron Gross

            Right. No one says that belligerent occupation itself justifies suspending (derogating from) human rights. In fact, occupation isn’t even the issue; the issue is security. I said that none of these rights are absolutely guaranteed to occupied populations, but in fact they’re not guaranteed to citizens, either. Except, as you say, certain non-derogable rights like freedom from torture, freedom to worship, etc.

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          • directrob

            We now seem to mostly agree … but not just “security” it should be a “public emergency which threatens the life of the nation” and derogation measures must be limited “to the extent strictly required by the exigencies of the situation”.

            Of course repeated terror attacks would qualify, but is that currently the case?

            From “goisrael”:
            “Israel is an extremely safe country to visit and to tour. In 2008, three million tourists came to Israel, an all-time record, and all three million [sic] went back home safe and sound. We would not encourage tourists to come if we felt they would be in the slightest danger.

            Are tourists allowed to enter areas outside of the Israeli responsibility (Palestinian areas)?

            Passage to the two major tourist cities of Bethlehem and Jericho in the Palestinian Authority is direct without prior clearance or required authorization. “

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      • The collapse of Oslo (as a neutral matter) is dislodging human rights from soverignty. This has as well happened in Africa when ostensive States go through “stateless” phases. The ICJ’s jurisdiction can be direct, although its enforcement power is very limited. I used to think that having the PA file for standing in the ICJ was counterproductive or wasteful. But, watching the settlement approvals, failure to police settler acts, and failure of the IDF to police its own, I have come to think that the dislodging of rights from State soverignty is just about the only positive tac left for the Bank. It will have few if any direct results, assuming the PA fares well in the Court, but it will continue the construction of legal norms against certain acts, globally.

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    14. Vickie

      ok…then allow ROR for Palestinian Christians if there’s such equality and justice.

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    15. Alok

      Where is the report non-sense button?

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    16. What are the real numbers of christians in Israel? From what I read it’s about 150.000 in Israel proper, about 40.000 in the West Bank and about 2000 in Gaza.

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      • Kolumn9

        Sounds about right for the West Bank and Gaza. There are 160,000 Israeli Christians and there are probably another 100,000 Filipino and other foreign Christians residing in Israel.

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    17. Mehrnaz

      The report of the Institute for Middle East Understanding published 17 December 2012, gives comprehensive information about the treatment of Christians under Zionist rule, particularly settler violence which is ignored and encouraged by the Israeli state.
      http://imeu.net/news/article0023369.shtml

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      • rsgengland

        In the Daily Telegraph there is mention of a report by CIVITAS on the state of Christianity in the world.
        It does not make pleasant reading.
        Militant Islam is the biggest threat.
        Western and liberal ‘head in the sand’ syndrome is the second.
        The only country in the Middle East that allows Freedom of Religion is Israel.
        The Christians in Israel enjoy freedom and their community is expanding, as opposed to the rest of the Middle East where the Christians are fleeing.
        Look at the state of Christianity in
        LEBANON
        SYRIA
        IRAQ
        PAKISTAN
        EGYPT
        and the list goes on.
        And the Jews were all ETHNICALLY CLEANSED from the Middle East/North Africa years ago, (a million Jews in 1948, a few Thousand Jews today).

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    18. Ina

      Just think of the illegal settlement har homa and the land it stands on belonging to the christian palestinians of Jabal Abu Ghneim.It is already proof this whole story above is a big lie.
      http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=550330

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      • The Trespasser

        You should be more careful with what you reading. Certain texts will turn your brain into a gray goo.

        “George Rishmawi of the Palestinian Center for Rapprochement has said that “Christians are part of the Palestinian social fabric … and of Islamic culture.”

        Mwahahahahahaha.

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    19. S. Ellis

      Sorry, folks, but I would like to point out that no theocratic state is a democracy. The two are simply not compatible. Nothing has proven to me that Israel is NOT a theocracy; it is, ipso facto, not a democracy.

      And no, being able to vote does not guarantee a democracy; the worst and most repressive states go through a charade to make it appear that they are elected!

      Israel does not allow large colonies of any ‘others’ and doesn’t grant the benefits of the state to Palestinians, Christians, or any other major group. Hell, Netanyahu is busy trying to deport Africans.

      And yes, sooner or later the fact that the settlements are illegal, that the land doesn’t belong to Israel, and that the 50 year long brutal repression of Palestinians has no basis or precedent in international law will change opinion about Israel’s right to exist in someone else’s land.

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      • The Trespasser

        >no theocratic state is a democracy. The two are simply not compatible.

        Nonsense.

        >Nothing has proven to me that Israel is NOT a theocracy

        That is probably because you are not quite sure what theocracy is.

        >And no, being able to vote does not guarantee a democracy; the worst and most repressive states go through a charade to make it appear that they are elected!

        Yes, cap. Also, democratically elected government could turn into a tyranny. So what?

        >Israel does not allow large colonies of any ‘others’

        Nonsense.

        >and doesn’t grant the benefits of the state to Palestinians, Christians, or any other major group.

        Lie.

        >Hell, Netanyahu is busy trying to deport Africans.

        Yes. Very good.

        >And yes, sooner or later the fact that the settlements are illegal

        Most of “settlements” are perfectly legal

        >that the land doesn’t belong to Israel

        Neither does is to Palestinian Arabs

        >and that the 50 year long brutal repression of Palestinians has no basis or precedent in international law

        Nonsense.

        >will change opinion about Israel’s right to exist in someone else’s land.

        As long as Spain and USA (and few other countries) have right to exist where they are, Israel is really fine.

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    20. sh

      You’re forgetting that there are Christians and Christians in Israel. They are probably all counted in one bag but a Christian coming from ex-Soviet Union as an oleh and a Middle-Eastern Christian whose family has no right to build or of return is not the same thing.

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    21. Ignatz

      Not to mention the invitation to come to “our country” to see Bethlehem…

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      • The Trespasser

        Ignorance shines in you.

        Since when exactly the city of Bethlehem is not Jewish?
        It was founded by Jews. The very name of it is Jewish, yet you have enough hutzpa to claim that it is not ours.

        Yeah, whatever.

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    22. Greg

      Bibis jewish law
      Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

      Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

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    23. Carma Schonert

      The foundation of Christian theology is expressed in the early ecumenical creeds which contain claims predominantly accepted by followers of the Christian faith. These professions state that Jesus suffered, died, was buried, and was subsequently resurrected from the dead in order to grant eternal life to those who believe in him and trust him for the remission of their sins.^

      Kind thoughts
      <http://www.caramoan.ph

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