Of course you are going to repeat your message but that just add to the denial claim I was making.

Israel is going to act on its own you say, you mean like Iraq acted on its own on Kuwait? Apparently you dont grasp the reason why whole world are opposed to war and violence to the extent Israel apparently are and obviously doesnt Israel state understand why either and thats what making them such big threat against peace.

Under your logic, West Bank Palestinians should resist you at every step; for your selfishness shall destroy them. Even if that selfishness is a group phenomenon.

I am saying the right policy decisions on the state level have to take into account the world as it is, not as we may want it to be. The ‘world’ consists of people that are extremely selfish creatures and have little concern for the suffering of others. This is true both locally and internationally. Policy based on pretending otherwise is doomed to disappointment and disillusion. Some can afford to pursue such illusions because they have a lot of room for adverse consequences, others have much less space for self-delusion.

As I understand it, you seem to be saying that because on one cares one may make the right decision. Interesting view of “right.”

There is no continuing annexation of the West Bank. Annexation is something that either happens or doesn’t happen. It is a binary state. You can say there is continuing colonization if you want to look for vague terms, but annexation has a very explicit legal meaning that you are misusing. Israel officially annexed the Golan Heights and Jerusalem. The West Bank is in that disputed grey zone it has been for 40+ years and will seemingly be for a very long time.

Yes people that reject reality tend to call facts and thus reality “nonsense” you just approved what I said about being in denial.

Of course the rest of the 193 or so states have a different perception about threat. Did you figure out that now? Rest of the world are obviously not prone to violence and war to that extent of Israel, they dont want it and surely they dont want to use their military power to go to war for a third party. They also see through the hollow ´cry wolf´ argumentation by Israel since it is Israel that keep level credible threats every week. Last week we heard this the ‘pray-for-annhilation-of-iran-threat’ by the rabbi.

Yes recognition of Palestine is positive? What if Palestine wasnt recognized by those 100s of states? Surely that would be a proof that palestinians, not the israelis, were isolated on the issue. So thats why I brought it up as a counter-argument to the fact that the world really care. At the same time I could gave you credit too since the world could do alot of more trying to solve the conflict.

There is a continuing annexation of the West bank and sooner or later the result of such actions will be apartheid. And since when did Israel care about international legitimacy? Who recognize the annexation today? No one.

Personally, I welcome the recognition of Palestine and I welcome all Palestinians’ attempts to upgrade their status internationally. To use your analogy it is the equivalent of 120 countries recognizing the sovereignty of Transkei and the Transkei government celebrating every time it is recognized. The Boers would have been overjoyed at such a development. When both Israel and Palestine are recognized states what you have is called a two state situation with a border dispute, throwing the whole ridiculous analogy you like to tout out permanently. So we see the two dynamics you put your hopes on work in completely opposite directions. I am surprised somebody as wise as you doesn’t notice the contradiction. Perhaps you really should study more about the South African case before alluding to it. Oh, and Israel isn’t going to annex the West Bank. Why bother when it can exercise completely control over it without annexation? And if it does annex it which state will recognize it granting the move international legitimacy? You whole line of reasoning is hilarious.

Rather no one buys israeli propaganda anymore, people simply know more today than ever before and to follow up on Finkelstein’s thesis, no one want to defend a state in constant violation international law, wars and threats. Today they level threat against the region constantly, who want to defend War of aggression? No one.

Since the 2010 tens of states have upgraded (including western states) and a majority of those have recognized Palestine leaving Israel every before isolated on the issue. Not to mention Iran. How many more than Israel could you count on your fingers that want war? No one.

But please keep on being in denial, one day the whole of west bank will be annexed by Israel, then apartheid is a reality and pressure will be put on Israel like the South African apartheid regime. And who defends the apartheid regime in S. Africa today? No one.

Get my point?