Comments on: Palestinian prisoners, Eritrean refugees: On the outskirts of Israeli law http://972mag.com/palestinian-prisoners-eritrean-refugees-on-the-outskirts-of-israeli-law/55421/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Tue, 21 May 2013 04:37:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Greg Pollock http://972mag.com/palestinian-prisoners-eritrean-refugees-on-the-outskirts-of-israeli-law/55421/comment-page-1/#comment-75860 Greg Pollock Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:33:55 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=55421#comment-75860 K9, no. Hearings are granted, people are not thrown across the boarder but arrested. Hearings may be pretty useless to the arrested, but they ocurr. Nor are Mexican nationals crossing the boarder associated with a presumed refugee class under treaty; that the High Court priorly forbade removal of Eritreans under treaty makes Eritreans on Israeli soil presumptively crys for asylum. We are talking about a hearing here, not ultimate admitance. When the rule of law is only to satisfy your racially protective needs it will ultimately fail and, I assure you, turn on Israeli nationals as well. The fight for the rule of law is a fight for your future. The law can advance for you, sometimes, by letting your enemies win. K9, no. Hearings are granted, people are not thrown across the boarder but arrested. Hearings may be pretty useless to the arrested, but they ocurr. Nor are Mexican nationals crossing the boarder associated with a presumed refugee class under treaty; that the High Court priorly forbade removal of Eritreans under treaty makes Eritreans on Israeli soil presumptively crys for asylum. We are talking about a hearing here, not ultimate admitance.

When the rule of law is only to satisfy your racially protective needs it will ultimately fail and, I assure you, turn on Israeli nationals as well. The fight for the rule of law is a fight for your future. The law can advance for you, sometimes, by letting your enemies win.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/palestinian-prisoners-eritrean-refugees-on-the-outskirts-of-israeli-law/55421/comment-page-1/#comment-75100 Kolumn9 Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:41:18 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=55421#comment-75100 Greg, an American court wouldn't have even heard the case since the US Border Patrol would have already thrown the migrants back into Mexico. Greg, an American court wouldn’t have even heard the case since the US Border Patrol would have already thrown the migrants back into Mexico.

]]> By: Greg Pollock http://972mag.com/palestinian-prisoners-eritrean-refugees-on-the-outskirts-of-israeli-law/55421/comment-page-1/#comment-74992 Greg Pollock Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:00:49 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=55421#comment-74992 "It seems that non-citizens in Israeli jurisdiction remain on the outer reaches of the law." The Court has absorbed a national security barrior into its thought, generalizing this, just as the word "infiltrator" has been generalized, to include petitioners of asylum. I cannot believe an American Federal Court would have postponed hearing for two days, leaving refugees in the desert. The court would have ordered them remanded into custody pending hearing. That the High Court did nothing suggests to me that Justices were told the problem would soon go away...and THAT is a sign the Court is not fully independent. There can be no rule of law in such a case. “It seems that non-citizens in Israeli jurisdiction remain on the outer reaches of the law.”

The Court has absorbed a national security barrior into its thought, generalizing this, just as the word “infiltrator” has been generalized, to include petitioners of asylum. I cannot believe an American Federal Court would have postponed hearing for two days, leaving refugees in the desert. The court would have ordered them remanded into custody pending hearing. That the High Court did nothing suggests to me that Justices were told the problem would soon go away…and THAT is a sign the Court is not fully independent. There can be no rule of law in such a case.

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