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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/palestinian-nonviolent-protest-leader-arrested-en-route-abroad/48459/comment-page-1/#comment-66070</link>
		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, who said I wanted a Gandhi? As I already pointed out I think Gandhi&#039;s view of the world was impractical and the man&#039;s policy recommendations as far as Jews were concerned were downright criminal. What I want is a Palestinian Ben Gurion but all the Palestinians keep presenting us with is Haj Amin Al-Husseinis and Arafats.
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I realized a while ago that you might be very confused, but the only picture on this page is of a handsome man, and though I generally hate to be so presumptuous, in this case I sincerely doubt he qualifies as a woman so I honestly have no clue what women you are referring to that should so impress me.
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Also, kudos on standing up for Rehmat. I didn&#039;t think anyone would, but fortunately you have come to the defense of that progressive free thinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, who said I wanted a Gandhi? As I already pointed out I think Gandhi&#8217;s view of the world was impractical and the man&#8217;s policy recommendations as far as Jews were concerned were downright criminal. What I want is a Palestinian Ben Gurion but all the Palestinians keep presenting us with is Haj Amin Al-Husseinis and Arafats.<br />
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<p>I realized a while ago that you might be very confused, but the only picture on this page is of a handsome man, and though I generally hate to be so presumptuous, in this case I sincerely doubt he qualifies as a woman so I honestly have no clue what women you are referring to that should so impress me.<br />
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<p>Also, kudos on standing up for Rehmat. I didn&#8217;t think anyone would, but fortunately you have come to the defense of that progressive free thinker.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want a Gandhi?  Then look in the faces of these women.  And stop being afraid.  They are neither Hitler nor Stalin nor suicide bombers.  Look--and you will see here, now, what Gandhi was.  The Gandhi nonsense will stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want a Gandhi?  Then look in the faces of these women.  And stop being afraid.  They are neither Hitler nor Stalin nor suicide bombers.  Look&#8211;and you will see here, now, what Gandhi was.  The Gandhi nonsense will stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would appear that Rehmat thinks that a sit-in would have changed Hitler&#039;s mind in trying to wipe out the Jews. My, that is faith indeed. Alas, we are not all so faithful as to abandon our fates to the whims of those that profess great hatred of our continued existence. I wonder if Gandhi was a Jew in Europe whether his non-violent approach would have had much of an impact on the guards of the concentration camp he was sent to. Then again, for Gandhi the important thing was the principle of non-violence as a transformative tool for all of humanity even if some groups were wiped out in the process. Another one of this wonderful suggestion was that the Jews of Europe should commit mass suicide so as to make the Nazis question their ways. It seems questionable that  a group dedicated to the obliteration of Jews would have been much dissuaded by the Jews willingness to do the job for them. Are we done with the Gandhi nonsense?
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And then Rehmat offers the Jews Birobidzhan. One wonders if he takes into account the &#039;natives&#039; of that icy region when granting this gift just to be consistent with his support of the Palestinians. Certainly he would have supported the forceful expulsion of all Soviet Jews to Birobidzhan as per Stalin&#039;s plan right before his death which would have certainly meant the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
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I have no clue what any of this has to do with the subject matter, but I do know what it has to do with Rehmat&#039;s persistent and undeniable anti-semitism in its full bloom which is clearly tolerated on this site and many others with similar anti-Israeli views.
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Back to the subject matter. The security measures in Hebron are in place because of repeated attempts by the Palestinian population to kill Jews. This of course isn&#039;t a recent phenomenon given the Hebron massacre of 1929, but fortunately there does exist among the Jews the capacity for defending themselves against their less than amiable neighbors. One often hears complaints against the presence of Jews in Hebron, but it isn&#039;t entirely clear to me the basis on which Jews have no right to live in Hebron. Perhaps someone should explain this to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear that Rehmat thinks that a sit-in would have changed Hitler&#8217;s mind in trying to wipe out the Jews. My, that is faith indeed. Alas, we are not all so faithful as to abandon our fates to the whims of those that profess great hatred of our continued existence. I wonder if Gandhi was a Jew in Europe whether his non-violent approach would have had much of an impact on the guards of the concentration camp he was sent to. Then again, for Gandhi the important thing was the principle of non-violence as a transformative tool for all of humanity even if some groups were wiped out in the process. Another one of this wonderful suggestion was that the Jews of Europe should commit mass suicide so as to make the Nazis question their ways. It seems questionable that  a group dedicated to the obliteration of Jews would have been much dissuaded by the Jews willingness to do the job for them. Are we done with the Gandhi nonsense?<br />
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<p>And then Rehmat offers the Jews Birobidzhan. One wonders if he takes into account the &#8216;natives&#8217; of that icy region when granting this gift just to be consistent with his support of the Palestinians. Certainly he would have supported the forceful expulsion of all Soviet Jews to Birobidzhan as per Stalin&#8217;s plan right before his death which would have certainly meant the deaths of hundreds of thousands.<br />
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<p>I have no clue what any of this has to do with the subject matter, but I do know what it has to do with Rehmat&#8217;s persistent and undeniable anti-semitism in its full bloom which is clearly tolerated on this site and many others with similar anti-Israeli views.<br />
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<p>Back to the subject matter. The security measures in Hebron are in place because of repeated attempts by the Palestinian population to kill Jews. This of course isn&#8217;t a recent phenomenon given the Hebron massacre of 1929, but fortunately there does exist among the Jews the capacity for defending themselves against their less than amiable neighbors. One often hears complaints against the presence of Jews in Hebron, but it isn&#8217;t entirely clear to me the basis on which Jews have no right to live in Hebron. Perhaps someone should explain this to me?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/palestinian-nonviolent-protest-leader-arrested-en-route-abroad/48459/comment-page-1/#comment-65813</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 05:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man must be responsible.  Interesting logic.  The police don&#039;t know what to think.
Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man must be responsible.  Interesting logic.  The police don&#8217;t know what to think.<br />
Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Klil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be the late hour, but I could swear Caden was encouraging violent resistance against the Occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be the late hour, but I could swear Caden was encouraging violent resistance against the Occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piotr Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peaceful resistance of Boer agaist England would be futile, but Apartheid is gone.   And so will be separation as practiced in the territories etc.  Ypu cannot build Zionism in one country only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peaceful resistance of Boer agaist England would be futile, but Apartheid is gone.   And so will be separation as practiced in the territories etc.  Ypu cannot build Zionism in one country only.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they didn&#039;t pick him up because of what happened in hebron the week before, they picked him up because they didn&#039;t like he was going to on a speaking tour in italy meeting with important people. control freaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they didn&#8217;t pick him up because of what happened in hebron the week before, they picked him up because they didn&#8217;t like he was going to on a speaking tour in italy meeting with important people. control freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Berman</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/palestinian-nonviolent-protest-leader-arrested-en-route-abroad/48459/comment-page-1/#comment-65679</link>
		<dc:creator>Piotr Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 02:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caden, resistance or lack of it had rather small relationship with survival.  Stories I know about Polish Jews:

when Soviet Union was controlling former eastern Poland, volunteered to work in a factory in Russia

same person, paid a Polish peasant to bring family from Warsaw in a horse cart; two who took the advantage, survived, two who tried luck with Hitler, nothing is known -- betting on Hitler and Stalin in 1939

same situation, exiled by secret police to Kazakhstan as &quot;under-kulak&quot; (podkulachnik)

under German control, joined Communist Partisans

was hiding with Polish friends, managed to save his wife from Treblinka by bribing Ukrainian guards, children perished in Treblinka

September 1939, illegally working in France, volunteered to Polish units in France, POV in 1940: Germans were honoring Geneva conventions

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In what way does it relate to the insane behavior of the settlers and IDF in Hebron?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caden, resistance or lack of it had rather small relationship with survival.  Stories I know about Polish Jews:</p>
<p>when Soviet Union was controlling former eastern Poland, volunteered to work in a factory in Russia</p>
<p>same person, paid a Polish peasant to bring family from Warsaw in a horse cart; two who took the advantage, survived, two who tried luck with Hitler, nothing is known &#8212; betting on Hitler and Stalin in 1939</p>
<p>same situation, exiled by secret police to Kazakhstan as &#8220;under-kulak&#8221; (podkulachnik)</p>
<p>under German control, joined Communist Partisans</p>
<p>was hiding with Polish friends, managed to save his wife from Treblinka by bribing Ukrainian guards, children perished in Treblinka</p>
<p>September 1939, illegally working in France, volunteered to Polish units in France, POV in 1940: Germans were honoring Geneva conventions</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>In what way does it relate to the insane behavior of the settlers and IDF in Hebron?</p>
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		<title>By: caden</title>
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		<dc:creator>caden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I was saying is that non-violent resistence wouldn&#039;t have done a lot of good against the SS. All that would have done would have made the extermination of  European Jewry 100%. Something that Phil Weiss and Rehmat would have deemed the optimum scenario but some of us see it differently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I was saying is that non-violent resistence wouldn&#8217;t have done a lot of good against the SS. All that would have done would have made the extermination of  European Jewry 100%. Something that Phil Weiss and Rehmat would have deemed the optimum scenario but some of us see it differently</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piotr Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 21:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caden: could you formulate your thoughts coherently enough to figure out what you mean?  What I understand is that if people practiced sit-ins in 1930s, instead of Holocaust there would be something else.  ??!! That is a non-sequitur, and relevance to the subsequent historical period also seems nil.  

Rehmat: Birobidjan was an autonomous region, with a very, very modest degree of autonomy.  Except that Yiddish was one of the two official languages.

Sh: I think that it is illegal for the citizens of Israel to enter Area A without some kind of authorization, so Issa Amro is guilty of conspiring to have an unauthorize group to enter Area A.  This goes directly against separation regulation.  Further, the conspiracy involve confusing the soldiers who enforced separation regulation so they forced citizens to break those regulations AGAIN.  This interfered with law enforcement.

For example, imagine that a group of people stands on their heads.  It could confuse police into thinking that up is down and into issuing wrong directions to drivers, like directing them left instead of right etc.  Potentially, it could lead to fatalities.

Finally, Issa Amro was hanging out with daughters of Israel.  This last infraction is rather severe, because while doing so he was neither old, decrepit, dirty, badly dressed, drooling, but to the contrary, presented an attractive demeanor and intelligent conversation, and I suspect that he may used some decent aftershave etc.  Did he show his true nature to the young impressionable women?  If not, this may be an attempted rape according to Israeli law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caden: could you formulate your thoughts coherently enough to figure out what you mean?  What I understand is that if people practiced sit-ins in 1930s, instead of Holocaust there would be something else.  ??!! That is a non-sequitur, and relevance to the subsequent historical period also seems nil.  </p>
<p>Rehmat: Birobidjan was an autonomous region, with a very, very modest degree of autonomy.  Except that Yiddish was one of the two official languages.</p>
<p>Sh: I think that it is illegal for the citizens of Israel to enter Area A without some kind of authorization, so Issa Amro is guilty of conspiring to have an unauthorize group to enter Area A.  This goes directly against separation regulation.  Further, the conspiracy involve confusing the soldiers who enforced separation regulation so they forced citizens to break those regulations AGAIN.  This interfered with law enforcement.</p>
<p>For example, imagine that a group of people stands on their heads.  It could confuse police into thinking that up is down and into issuing wrong directions to drivers, like directing them left instead of right etc.  Potentially, it could lead to fatalities.</p>
<p>Finally, Issa Amro was hanging out with daughters of Israel.  This last infraction is rather severe, because while doing so he was neither old, decrepit, dirty, badly dressed, drooling, but to the contrary, presented an attractive demeanor and intelligent conversation, and I suspect that he may used some decent aftershave etc.  Did he show his true nature to the young impressionable women?  If not, this may be an attempted rape according to Israeli law.</p>
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