Comments on: Palestinian beaten by Jews in Jerusalem: Attacks against us happen here every day

By: JG

JG — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:12:46 +0000

About time to take your pills, man

By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula

Bluegrass Picker of Afula — Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:38:29 +0000

>> if only Eliezer Ben Yehuda would have known about all those Hebrew speaking people of the holy land! But alas, he was only hearing arabic from the locals

No, when he arrived at Jaffa port, the first words he heard from the longshoreman were Hebrew. Jerusalemites had been speaking it in the markets for hundreds of years, when he arrived with his suggestion (which he implemented with his own kid) that it become a mother-tongue again.

> Picker has lost all intellectual integrity

Fuck intellectual integrity. An intellectual is a person that thinks (a la Mondoweiss) that there is a “war of ideas in the Middle East”.

Whereas Hebrew nationalism is about knowing that the slow-motion war is about changing facts on the ground.

I’m not gonna be like the integrity-laden Kenyan intellectuals. If need be…. I’m gonna be like the Mau-Mau. PS: I am not in favor of the kind non-configured freelance criminal violence that hit Mr Abu Ramuz; it doesn’t help our cause. It’s hard to actually know. With 20-20 hindsight, we know that the hanging of two British soldiers by the Stern Gang in (was it 1947 or 1948) was the actual event which (unknown to anyone else accept his wife, at that time) that the British would not be able to stop the Hebrews from making British-colonial rule impossible. Not pretty…. but true. I say: trackdown the criminals and inprison them… after making them spend several years of indentured servitude to indemnify Mr Abu Ramuz. Because only the Hebrew Shilton, through its duly constituted Police and Military, is allowed to use violence.

I won’t waste even a single bullet or fist-strike on hurting anyone who isn’t obstructing the work. But if they ARE obstructing us….. they’ll be pushed out of the way, by whatever means necessary.

We don’t hate colonialist-Arabic-speakers anymore than a rancher “hates” the livestock. We make the necessary decisions as if this was a chess game. We have our defined goal….and we’re gonna get there. Please note that Mr Abu Sarah only can be in Jerusalem: if and when we give permission. And that’s where its going and going and going.

It took a 112 years to get where we Hebrews now are. If doing the the work in a slip-the-medicine-down-as easy-as-possible way takes another 224 years…. we can wait for that.

Our Arabic-colonialist opponents are doomed to go where the Al Andalus colonizers went… so what’s the rush?

By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula

Bluegrass Picker of Afula — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:39:08 +0000

>> Ethnic Hebrew? That’s a new one.

Gosh, you sound just like the people who laughed at Ben-Yehudah in 1891.

>>> Which part of the “Ethnic Hebrews” to the tall and fair-skinned Russians and Polish come from in comparison to their co-ethnic brethren who are shorter and darker skinned

Our ethnicity here in the Hebrew country –is– language based. It’s not MY problem if references to ethnicity make YOU immediately think about race & skincolor…..

Y’alls brave talk reminds me of the brave talk that the Aztec Emperor was spouting on November 7, 1519. I have no doubt that you’ll end up in the same historical dustheap

By: Greg Pollock

Greg Pollock — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:18:58 +0000

Picker has lost all intellectual integrity. Scroll up to the photo on the post to recall what he or they dismiss cavalierly.

By: A concerned citizen

A concerned citizen — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:23:05 +0000

Aziz, great job on talking to this kid and getting this important story out there.

BPOA, you are an amazing scholar. If only Eliezer Ben Yehuda would have known about all those Hebrew speaking people of the holy land! But alas, he was only hearing arabic from the locals.

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:41:25 +0000

How DNA can determine when it is OK to beat up someone? This discussion of languages and DNA is pointless. The supremacists can use true or false distinctions, but their conclusions are ludicrous in any case.

By: Philos

Philos — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:38:08 +0000

Why do I get the feeling that all the pro-apartheid South African Jews and anti-civil rights American Jews are the only ones who make aliyah these days?
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Ethnic Hebrew? That’s a new one. Which part of the “Ethnic Hebrews” to the tall and fair-skinned Russians and Polish come from in comparison to their co-ethnic brethren who are shorter and darker skinned from Iraq and Morocco? Where do the Ethiopians and Yemenites fall into this Ethnic Hebrew category?
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There is no such thing as Hebrew ethnicity and if the mosaic of Jewishness in Israel shows anything it is that the Jewish Nation is nothing but a civic-nation (i.e., disparate cultural and ethnic groups united around some form of written constitution) rather than an ethnic nation. Of course, this is the truth that dare not speak its name in this insane country. An insanity that refuses to acknowledge certain historical facts that cast a great shadow of doubt on the Zionist narrative; Judaism was a proselytizing religion, there were converts all over the Mediterranean Basin and throughout Mesopotamia and into Central Asia, and a Jewish presence existed in this land until the Eight Century (which completely blows the old Bar Kochva exile narrative out of the water). Furthermore, thanks to the wonderful work of paleo-geneticists we’ve discovered that for as long as we can tell the majority of humanity was buried within 10 kilometers of their place of birth. In fact, given the historical record, what we know about how far people tended to travel, and the DNA of Palestinians and Jews both “nations” narratives are ludicrous. The Palestinians and Zionists will never admit it but the probability is that the vast majority of Palestinians are the descendants of the Caanites, Israelites, Idomeans and Judeans.

By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula

Bluegrass Picker of Afula — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:50:40 +0000

i have no illusions or delusions about the suffering of the Palestinian masses. Already back in 1923, Jabotinsky (“The Iron Wall”) was describing their resistance to repatriation-to-the-Hebrew-ethnic-homeland by ethnic Hebrews as “normal and expected”. I don’t really care about y’alls pissing and moaning, for exactly the same reason that our original poster doesn’t care if I can (all it would take is, enough money and patience) find some Nacotchtank families to tell him to get the hell out of DC and go back where he came from. And of course, he ===is=== (or is it second?) a first-generation immigrant to USA (we can only guess what Helen Thomas would say!). PS: I have no desire in “wiping out” Arabic-speakers in Jerusalem. I’ll be happy to help them mail their absentee-voter ballots for the Republic of Palestine elections… to their capitol in Amman. We are only three or four bullets-in-the-head-of-Hashemites away from having a “Republic of Palestine”. The Palestinian holders of Hebrew-Republic green-cards are the ones I will pay a commission to, in order to mis-label our moshav/kibbutz agricultural produce as “Product of the Republic of Palestine” at their final destination in the Gulf supermarkets!!

By: Piotr Berman

Piotr Berman — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:03:44 +0000

The logic of BPOA is puzzling. “Jebusites were Hebrew speakers, that is why King David never expelled them.” Thus it was OK for Roman to expel the Jews, as they were speaking Aramaic at that time. And there were numerous Aramaic countries, like Syria and Mesopotamia. Of late, some contagious brain disease seems to affect our trolls.

By: Greg Pollock

Greg Pollock — Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:58:46 +0000

Picker, you are ready to wipe out people for the good of a race. You speak of others’ “true agenda” as though we were in McCarthyite America. You ignore the pain of others unless validated by race, and employ ancient stories of the Bible as warrant for present destructive harm.

The rule of law, in Israel–Israel–will eventually set these views aside.