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Israelis on Facebook wish death for Holocaust survivors against 'Protective Edge'

Nope, it’s not The Onion.

A few days ago some 300 Holocaust survivors placed an ad in the New York Times condemning the massacre in Gaza. My colleague from Local Call, John Brown, has selected a few of the responses on Facebook that Israelis posted in response to the ad.

I’ve translated a few from John’s selection:

David Cohen: Those aren’t Holocaust survivors those are probably collaborators with the Nazis.

Shmulik Halphon: He’s invited to go back to Auschwitz.

Itzik Levy: These are survivors who were Kapos. Leftist traitors. That’s why they live abroad and not in the Jewish State.

Vitali Guttman: Enough, they should die already. They survived the Holocaust only to do another Holocaust to Israel in global public opinion?

Meir Dahan: No wonder Hitler murdered 6 million Jews because of people like you you’re not even Jews you’re disgusting people a disgrace to humanity and so are your offspring you are trash.

Asher Solomon: It’s a shame Hitler didn’t finish the job.

Katy Morali: Holocaust survivors who think like this are invited to go die in the gas chambers.

Yafa Ashraf: Shitty Ashkenazis you are the Nazis.

Israelis lash out against holocaust survivors who oppose 'Protective Edge'

Israelis lash out against holocaust survivors who oppose ‘Protective Edge’

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    1. QuasemAzam

      Love the nationalism we feel that permit us to hate someone else.

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    2. Sue

      I think internet trolls( hackers) left the first comment. Their mission is to spur arguments. Definitely hackers! :( They’re the ones who abused Robin Williams daughter online immediately following his death.

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      • Paul Braxton Hicks

        …are you calling me a troll because you are jealous, or because calling me a troll in the comments would make you look like a troll..?

        …either way, I didn’t ask for you permission to give my opinion.

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    3. “בין ניצולי מחנות ההסגר של הגרמנים היו אנשים שאלמלא היו מה שהיו- אנשים קשים ורעים ואגואיסטים-לא היו ניצלים, וגם כל מה שעבר עליהם עקר מנפשם כל חלקה טובה”

      דויד בן גוריון במרכז מפא”י 22-23.7.49, ארכיון מפלגת העבודה 49\24. בתוך תום שגב, המיליון השביעי- הישראלים והשואה ג’, 1 עמ’ 106

      “Among the survivors of the German concentration camps there were people that if they weren’t hard and bad and selfish, they would not have been saved, and anyway what happened to them has probably removed everything that is good from their soul

      David Ben-Gurion’s Mapai center 22-23.7.49, Labor Archives 49 \ 24. in Tom Segev, One million Israelis and the Holocaust” C, 1 p 106″

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      • thissalantine

        your words are appalling and do so very much to sway public opinion against you in the US, the country where so many people lost relatives who died freeing the camps, and fighting that war. shame on you for finding justification for the wholesale slaughter of little children, no mater WHO is doing it.

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      • Human

        You are a pure disgrace to humanity. Shame on you.
        BTW, Some of those who are alive are founders of the “Jewish” Apartheid state

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    4. Leah

      These are not representatives of Israel – they are a disgusting, ultra-national rightwing minority. Just like the most fanatics of the tea party can’t reflect on American values, neither can these commentators. Almost all Israelis denounce these statements.

      Regardless, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. It is enough to look at the death statistics to understand that the majority of deaths are militants. It is Hamas who is committing war crimes with their attacks from civilian centers to civilian centers.

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      • Jeffrey Sipe

        What you are referring to as lies are not lies but the truth. The majority of those killed have been civilians and hundreds of those are children. I suggest you get your news from reliable sources.

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      • Dave Thawley

        Not the thoughts of the majority of israrlis. They just condone the mass murder of woman and kids and are happy to be stealing another populations country

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      • zohra

        Leah it seems like you have a lot of research to do you know the saying “only the truth will set you free” if you look for the truth you will find it you just have to remove your blinkersand the truth is there glaring in yuor face

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      • AJ

        “the majority of deaths are militants” – really? Is that what you heard in Israeli news? Did you bother to verify your statement before posting, or are you amongst the “Israel can do no wrong crowd?” This from the NYT loyal to Israel: “Israel has a very different assessment. The military says it took the lives of 900 “terrorists,” but it did not provide specifics beyond the 368 cases listed in 28 entries on its blog.” Even the Israeli gov’t “could not provide specifics beyond the 368 cases listed”. For your convenience, let us use Israel’s own “verified” data, 368 cases of killed “terrorists” subtract that from the “claims” of all ngos on the ground including the UN that over 2,000 Palestinians killed (80% civilians). 2000 Palestinian dead minus 368 Israeli confirmed “dead terrorists” = 1,632 deaths. 1,632 is 80% of 2,000. So if Israel is claiming 362 killed “terrorists” that leaves 1,632 civilians dead.

        “It is Hamas who is committing war crimes” – wow, you are either misinformed or willfully ignorant: consider how HAMAS operated: “Sixty-four Israeli soldiers have been killed in the conflict, as well as three civilians in the Jewish state.”(see reuters) Looks like HAMAS is the more moral entity; even though they are nowhere near the level of sophistication the IDF military enjoys. Facts, figures and context.

        http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/21/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0GI12O20140821

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10967279/UN-80-per-cent-of-Palestinians-killed-in-Israeli-offensive-are-civilians.html

        https://www.nlg.org/sites/default/files/Letter%20to%20ICC%20Prosecutor%20Gaza%20FINAL.pdf

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      • Michael Marowitz

        You wrote, “Regardless, what is happening in Gaza is not genocide. It is enough to look at the death statistics to understand that the majority of deaths are militants. It is Hamas who is committing war crimes with their attacks from civilian centers to civilian centers.” It’s not genocide because . . . ? Just because you say so?

        Moreover, death statistics cannot by themselves tell anyone whether the victims are are militants or civilians, as you stated. Observations on the ground lead to such conclusions; it is plainly irrational to conclude that the sheer numbers would show whether any deceased Palestinian was a civilian or a combatant

        Lastly, aiming at civilian population centers and buildings used primarily for civilian purposes inexorably leads to an inordinate number of civilian deaths, whether done by Hamas or IDF, which constitutes a violation the articles 33 and 34 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, the prohibitions against collective punishment and a potential war crime. Zionists like you do the same thing every time when confronted with criticism of Israeli actions; you always change to subject to vilify Hamas, as if that somehow obliterates the image of IDF slaughtering children playing soccer on a beach or murdering whole families who couldn’t get to the street in time. No country on earth has ever sought to justify killing women and children by claiming the other side is monstrous or does the same thing, as if two wrongs make a right. Based on what’s coming out of Israel, it appears that “never again” has less to do with never suffering another Holocaust and more to do with macho Zionists beating their chests saying, our grandparents were wimps for walking into Nazi ovens rather than fighting, and we’ll never allow that to happen again, a psychopathology that fosters hatred of anything that defies Israel.

        Your ideas are half-baked and sophomoric.

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        • one etnocidio happens in gaza, not genocide

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      • john

        IDF grads used to get a T-shirt with the picture of a pregnant Arab woman with her stomach in a gun site. The caption “One Shot – Two Kills” was on the shirt. What does this say about Israeli attitudes, at least in the IDF about Palestinians?

        Don’t believe me?
        Read: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960071.stm

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    5. bassam

      Humanity has no religion or race. Those who went through pain can never accept seeing massacres against children

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    6. bor

      Hey Ami, while you are outraged at the people making these comments on Facebook, how is it you’re not outraged at the lies included in the ad by these Holocaust survivors and their descendants? Blood libelous lies such as:

      “Israel’s wholesale effort to destroy Gaza and the murder of more than 2,000 Palestinians…Nothing can justify depriving people of electricity and water.”

      Those are just two lies among a few in the letter, not to mention false historical claims about Israel. Surely, just as you are angry that some people are enraged at these signatories, you must be enraged at the signatories’ lies. No?

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    7. Khaled Khalid

      Didn’t their parents teach them any respect for people?

      Utterly Shameless.

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      • Nazionists are without moral dimension.

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    8. This is an unveiling of Israeli sentiment for the world to see. It’s all part of the healing process. First denial, then anger….

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    9. km magovern

      Really? The comments I read which denigrate the Jewish people (regardless of ancestry or nationality, survivor or not)show a lack of perspective and recognition of the state of being human. It seems to me, those who acknowledge violence as a means of “winning” are everywhere, cross all boundaries i.e. religious, racial, nationality etc. It’s actually very simple. There are peace lovers willing to accept and work with others and there are those who believe (for whatever reason – greed, religion, color) they should be above the rest, have more and so forth. Yes, a gray area exists, but it’s small. The name calling and accusations, whether by the Jews reported on above or by the commenters demonstrate the two sides always at odds – “They’re bad” “No! THEY’re bad”. Humans have built barriers and erected pedestals as if any of that really matters. The sons’ and daughters’ lives matter yet people are sacrificing them for land, things, greed and power. Regardless of the “why” or where or when it is a grievous sin and an everlasting stain on humanity.

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    10. Matt Wallis

      such a shame people have to be ugly even it is in the name of religion, religion is worse than drugs cos it is according to any religion, a natural apartheid, one being better, superior than the other, that is what Hitler saw inadequacies within himself and took it out on all people cos he was not just power mad and a user, things haven’t changed much, except that people are just getting sick and tired of needless violence in this region which people call the middle east…..

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    11. Haim

      Please look carefully at the family names of 99% of those who responded with hate and disrespect to the Holocaust survivors. As an Israeli this is not a new phenomenon to me.
      I do not wish any of them to experience what my late parents went through in that Hell. They probably heard these things back at home.
      Unfortunately,these savages get stronger everyday. Hey Guys ISIS would embrace you . would they ?
      Hsim

      Yes, there is one in the list who is, originally, from former USSR and this is not a surprise too, but this is another, yet similar,issue.

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    12. Michelle

      I was shocked when visiting Israel that so many Israelis are ashamed of what happened to their forefathers in the Holocaust. They felt that they went like lambs to the slaughter. I believe this is why they display such disproportionate aggression against the Palestinians, because they are embarrassed of the legacy of the Holocaust. I think it shows huge disrespect to the people who suffered and died at the hands of the Nazis. These people have taken completely the wrong lessons from history. They should celebrate the lives that were so cruelly ended by the Nazis, not be ashamed of them.

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    13. Raz

      Look for the common denominator of the majority of savages who responded with hatred (one can also count for the common denominator of the others).

      As a son of Holocaust survivors these are no news for me. When you hear these kind of comments(e.g. “it’s petty Hitler did not kill of you”) at home, you just passing on and on this kind of blind hatred. Luckily, many of them have a low IQ and a dead “brain”. Since they are at the very bottom of the food chain, they are going to loose.

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    14. Jeannine Skead

      Is this what the Sermon on the Mount led up to?

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    15. Gladys Williams

      Whatever happens do not allow events to rob you of your humanity, your compassion, your careing for the children of the world. If you keep your humanity you have won.

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    16. Tanya

      I wish peace to all involved, whether in their surroundings, or in themselves. Hate is a foul place to live.

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    17. Eugene

      IMHO the IJAN letter goes too far with phrases like “Israel’s wholesale effort to destroy Gaza and the murder of more than 2,000 Palestinians”, thereby undermining support for it’s position. Actually it’s not that the IDF deliberately kills civilians and destroys Gazan property, but that they have an unacceptably low threshold for collateral damage. It’s not murder but manslaughter, which is still very bad..

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    18. Robby

      If a non Jew made any comment like the ones you mention, about the signers of the letter, those same people would be screaming “Anti-Semite” “Jew hater” at the non Jew. This is the essence of zionism. To call these people crazy would be an understatement.

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