7 comments for ”Normalcy, hope and the Israeli tent protesters“

    
  1. you are still going on with this?

    the settlers participation in the j14 movement is minimal. 80% percent of the Israelis are still supporting the movement, but in the left much more than in the right wing, and among the settlers the support is very low. In fact, most of them claim that the j14 is anti-zionist…

    In no big rally was any settler one of the speakers, but almost in all of them there were arab speakers. Some of the big rallies were mutual joint arab-jewish demos, e.g in Haifa, jaffa and other places. In Haifa there was a 30,000 people demo that at least half of its participants were arab. There are many tent camps in arab towns and villages and almost none in the settlements. The talk about how the state’s money is going to the’ welfare state’ of the settlements instead of constructing a welfare state inside Israel is an issue inside the movement circles , and also the talk about the danger that the movement’s eventual achievements may basically maintain the current hegemony, if it will not work for the benefit of the periphery and lower classes, but only for the middle class.

    The 1948 arab tent in rotschild tent camp (the biggest t.a one) stands and stays active, while the settlers tent there suffered from an ongoing demos against it, physical resistance and many personal protests , and didn’t survive a week – and They went back to their hills in the west bank.
    in the last two weeks I went to several demos in biqat ono, a peripherial area not far away from t.a, where some small low class jewish towns are demonstrating in support of the j14 in spite of harsh reaction by the local city mayors, that are the government’s guys. And in each and every one of those demos there, the local speakers – lower class mizrahi people that are traditionally right wing voters – said, again and again, things like ‘we are standing here together , arabs and jews, black and white people, women and men’. And they said that to an audience which was all jewish, in small towns, away from tv cameras… you get the picture.

    So I think that even that some of the criticism about the j14 is correct, voices like joesph’s and max’s are pretty much overseeing the complexity of things inside the Israeli society, and are falling to the trap of binaric, shallow and pretty much unfair, instant , ready-made and very arrogant sight about the whole thing.

    No, this is not a revolution, but some things about the j14 are revolutionary. First of all, the awakening of a huge protest phenomena that insists not to exclude the arab citizens, and is using the term ‘people’ – in the first time of israel’s history – for all the people and not as a code word for ‘the jewish people’. Secondly, it turns the table on the dominant hegemonic governments’ usual talk that is all about national security, and instead raises the social-economical subject to the top priority, and insists to try and keep that up even during terror acts and even that September is on the corner.

    And by the way – a change (if will be achieved) in the neo-extra-capitalistic way that Israel is being run, will hopefully allow the lower class in Israel to improve their situation, and the poorest sector in Israel is the arab sector.

    So I think that it’s pretty much demagogic or simply wrong to adapt such a binaric opinion about the j14, because all I said above. But I also think that even if dana’s and max criticism was all true, it was still unfair to attack the j14 the way they do. As far as I can see, this opinion by them of how the j14 fails to conclude the Palestinian struggle is ALL they can and want to say about this exciting phenomena. But hey… is this a good journalism or a pure narrow one track minded deceive? Did they, in one of their many articles about the Palestinian struggle, EVER mentioned that the Palestinian struggle fails to contain the struggle for women rights, human rights inside the Palestinian society, or that it constantly fails to build real democratic establishments?

    Did foreign journalists that covered the late morrocan protest movement were all about the question if the 20th februar movement will not ‘ONLY’ achieve a constitutional change that will benefit the citizens, improve the rights of women and individuals in the kingdom and get a huge social-economical reform (they achieved all that), but were only keen about ‘the main question’ – will it free the west sahara hassanic people that are living under the morrocan occupation (it didn’t, and it didn’t even try – and I think it’s the maximum they could acheive)??

    and I don’t know what was the superjists views about the racist discrimination system in the usa, but I know that if a journalist that covered it to foreign audience, and didn’t even know English!!! (like max doesn’t even know Hebrew nor Arabic), would only bring up, again and again, his judgmental verdict of how it fails to change the situation of black people, than he may have been very right but still would make a very bad journalism.

    So, to sum up… I think that saying that the j14 is pure Zionistic, non revolutionary movement, is wrong, And that even if it was right, the way some people (who think it’s the case) are covering it is almost non ethical, and very superficial.
    Sorry for that long one, and for my English.

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  3. Face it Dana: your only contribution as a white Ashkenazi American to the liberation of non-European Palestine is for you to do the right anti-Zionist act and somply leave the territory. Please use your American passport and go back to your white Ashkenazi home or become fullly Israeli like all of us who have no other passport.

    We don’t need and don’t want your help. We just want you do de-colonize yourself and your presence by removing your Ashkenazi non-Zionist self from the territory of non-European Palestine. Are you going to censor this as a good liberal American? We copied the text and shall see.

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  5. “I fail to see…” ditto. And if you listened more, you might have seen more. And then you wouldn’t be accused, unfortunately correctly, of malpractice.

    You also don’t realize how destructive your arrogance is. Most people I know in the radical left share worries about the social and political outlook of the Rothschild upheaval. What sets you apart is carelessness and lack of a political perspective. At least please let people know that you represent nobody but yourself.

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  7. I don’t think it’s fair to expect so much out of Israelis. When people protest anywhere, whether it be Egypt or the US, it is almost inevitably about themselves. Israelis are protesting about their own lives, about their lack of power. Inevitably, this does intersect with Palestinian issues, but to expect Israelis to focus on those ahead of their own problems is not realistic.

    There has not been many hopeful signs out of the left in Israel for the last 15 years so at this point, I’ll take what I can get. The tent protests are hardly perfect but they are something.

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  9. You guys are so busy being right that you don’t see the making of History just beside you



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