Comments on: No end in sight: Occupation marks 45th anniversary

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:16:22 +0000

I live in America and came across this article via another that my soon to be niece in-law (Palestinian) posted on FB. Only in the last 2 years have I become a reader of world events and reading up on the settlements, I couldn’t believe our own Government acknowledging Israel as an ally. There is much more I have awakened to that goes on in this world. Thank you so very much for this article. I look forward to your readings and my prayers are with those Palestinians in their daily living situation… Sincerly, A fellow human being

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 23:00:55 +0000

My count is a Holocaust denier, a Nazi and a raving anti-Semite in the comments, with some obvious commonalities between them. I wonder if the writers of 972mag will continue writing if all those that appreciate their work fall into one of those camps.
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This article is well written, though I am not sure from what perspective the Oslo Accord really was the ‘worst turn of events’.

By: sh

sh — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:52:01 +0000

Jules you seem to have misunderstood Yeshayahu Leibowitz, the Right and the Left.
1) The Right is not *peacefully* dominating a few million Arabs. If it were, some now on the Left might even be on the Right’s side.
2) The Left does not necessarily think the Palestinians will make peace with them but deplores the cruelty and disregard for human rights and human life of the Right’s domination of a few million Arabs. Not to mention the way 45 years of it has changed the mentality of a few more million Jews.
3) It would surprise me if Leibowitz worded it the way you cite him. It was he who first dared call the enforcers of the occupation Judeo-Nazis, he’s been dead for almost 18 years and had not only a razor-sharp intellect but a broad and very precise vocabulary until the day he died.

By: sam

sam — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:20:48 +0000

The answer is unfortunately clear.
We cannot peacefully dominate them therefore we must use force until they accept{which at this point is a remote possibility}.
This is in light of the Arab{Moslem} countries around the world where bedlam is the common denominator and it is unlikely for them to change their mentality.
As for the Left-maybe they should just leave Israel so not to be witness to the horrible things a people must to in order to survive.
They can criticize and sacrifice themselves in another country and in another society.

By: Jules

Jules — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:10:31 +0000

I want to remind us all of what that wise man Isaiah Leibowitz told us :
Beware of those two fallacies
- the fallacy of the Right that we can peacefully dominate a few million Arabs
- the fallacy of the Left that we can make peace with them.
How do you get out of this situation ? I for one do not have an answer and I am sceptical of those who think they do.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:00:01 +0000

Again,
Let the communities present a proposal. Don’t prohibit a proposal from the light of day, and from the right of the people themselves to consent or not.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:59:05 +0000

There are two positions here.

1. The radical positions (more than one), that there is no peace process, that no progress has ever been made, that peace is a distant malevolent pipedream, that there are no partners for peace (pick a side).

I suggest that in that likud and the left and right wing radicals in the world collude to prevent reconciliation.

2. That peace is possible and desirable, that the work needed is to construct it, by determined effort to reconcile substantive obstacles through bi-lateral, multi-lateral (both specific third parties and global scale facilitation and application), and on the ground reconciliation efforts.

XYX,
To my mind, the critics of Israel’s efforts towards actually achieving peace, have a much much more convincing argument than that Abbas is really just an opportunist and is never a partner for peace.

I find that “Abbas is not a partner for peace” to be primarily an opportunistic position, taken by single-state Palestinian solidarity and likud solidarity alike.

Enough Israel is enough.

By: XYZ

XYZ — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:06:18 +0000

Once again, the antisemite who choses names of SS officers (Kappler, Danneker) and others who collaborated with Nazis and their ilk (Stella Goldschlag, Nicholas Donin) is now posting here under the name Ilse Koch who was a female Nazi concentration camp guard. This person was banned. Is it possible for the moderators to be able to identify this person through an IP number to prevent this trash from appearing here?

By: Rachel Golem

Rachel Golem — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:00:11 +0000

We need one democratic state
……………….Like SYRIA!!!!!

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:25:42 +0000

Ilse Koch. Very revealing pseudonym.