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		<title>By: Never again? Elderly Palestinian women called &#8216;whores&#8217; on Yad Vashem tour, while racism explodes across Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never again? Elderly Palestinian women called &#8216;whores&#8217; on Yad Vashem tour, while racism explodes across Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week. Besides the publication of a series of rabbinical letters forbidding renting to Arabs and condemning relationships between Jews and Arabs, a school principal in Jaffa prohibited Palestinian-Israeli students from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Never again? Elderly Palestinian women called &#8220;whores&#8221; on Yad Vashem tour, while racism explodes across Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Never again? Elderly Palestinian women called &#8220;whores&#8221; on Yad Vashem tour, while racism explodes across Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week. Besides the publication of a series of rabbinical letters forbidding renting to Arabs and condemning relationships between Jews and Arabs, a school principal in Jaffa prohibited Palestinian-Israeli students from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tahel Ilan</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/new-racist-rabbinical-letter-warns-against-dating-arabs/7350/comment-page-1/#comment-2051</link>
		<dc:creator>Tahel Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the recommendation :)
I&#039;ve recently seen this docu and have been recommending it in venues that wont get me arrested by the thought-police next time i try to enter the mother-ship...
http://www.occupation101.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the recommendation <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve recently seen this docu and have been recommending it in venues that wont get me arrested by the thought-police next time i try to enter the mother-ship&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.occupation101.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.occupation101.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: anti-Israeli</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti-Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tahel

I hate it when someone makes a smarter post than mine, which i have to admit, I think you have. What you say is undoubtedly true. I suppose I suffer to an extent from that which I condemn--the natural inclination achieve moral clarity even when the truth of the situation is not so clear. 

I was quite moved by the short film about girls in the IDF called &quot;To see if I&#039;m smiling.&quot; I wish more israelis were outraged at how their government is destroying the lives of its own kids, forcing them into hideous (and totally unnecessary) situations and causing them mental scars from which many will never recover.


http://www.linktv.org/programs/to-see-if-i-am-smiling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tahel</p>
<p>I hate it when someone makes a smarter post than mine, which i have to admit, I think you have. What you say is undoubtedly true. I suppose I suffer to an extent from that which I condemn&#8211;the natural inclination achieve moral clarity even when the truth of the situation is not so clear. </p>
<p>I was quite moved by the short film about girls in the IDF called &#8220;To see if I&#8217;m smiling.&#8221; I wish more israelis were outraged at how their government is destroying the lives of its own kids, forcing them into hideous (and totally unnecessary) situations and causing them mental scars from which many will never recover.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linktv.org/programs/to-see-if-i-am-smiling" rel="nofollow">http://www.linktv.org/programs/to-see-if-i-am-smiling</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tahel Ilan</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/new-racist-rabbinical-letter-warns-against-dating-arabs/7350/comment-page-1/#comment-2046</link>
		<dc:creator>Tahel Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anti-israeli: 
i look at my siblings that are currently going to school in israel- the history books they&#039;re studying, the news they&#039;re watching and hearing, the movies, the books, the advertisements. i dont believe they were ever really given the chance to make a moral decision about any of this. 
they had never met palestinians, they never heard of the green line, no one ever told them that the whole history education about the european jews running to an &quot;empty land&quot;, well, that it wasn&#039;t really an empty land.
12 years of israeli eduction leave u knowing the &quot;machtarot&quot; backwards and the number of jews hitler was after in estonia. not much more.
its hard for me to blame them supporting the flattening of gaza, when this is all they&#039;ve been exposed to. 
on the other hand, after i introduced them to some movies, and history books and even some israeli arabs and palestinians- it was remarkable to see the change. its as if &quot;the other side&quot; was literally &quot;brought to life&quot; or in the very least transformed from &quot;crazy jew hating terrorist&quot; to &quot;human being, my age, looks like me, living under impossible conditions im creating for him&quot;.
i wouldnt say nazified, i would say ignorant, militaristic and violent (for the exact difference of opinion we have on the norman finkelstein matter :) ) and again, not because they&#039;re inherently flawed, but because generations of israelis are being brainwashed for almost 7 decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anti-israeli:<br />
i look at my siblings that are currently going to school in israel- the history books they&#8217;re studying, the news they&#8217;re watching and hearing, the movies, the books, the advertisements. i dont believe they were ever really given the chance to make a moral decision about any of this.<br />
they had never met palestinians, they never heard of the green line, no one ever told them that the whole history education about the european jews running to an &#8220;empty land&#8221;, well, that it wasn&#8217;t really an empty land.<br />
12 years of israeli eduction leave u knowing the &#8220;machtarot&#8221; backwards and the number of jews hitler was after in estonia. not much more.<br />
its hard for me to blame them supporting the flattening of gaza, when this is all they&#8217;ve been exposed to.<br />
on the other hand, after i introduced them to some movies, and history books and even some israeli arabs and palestinians- it was remarkable to see the change. its as if &#8220;the other side&#8221; was literally &#8220;brought to life&#8221; or in the very least transformed from &#8220;crazy jew hating terrorist&#8221; to &#8220;human being, my age, looks like me, living under impossible conditions im creating for him&#8221;.<br />
i wouldnt say nazified, i would say ignorant, militaristic and violent (for the exact difference of opinion we have on the norman finkelstein matter <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and again, not because they&#8217;re inherently flawed, but because generations of israelis are being brainwashed for almost 7 decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Tahel Ilan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tahel Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BenIsrael:
this notion that activists and journalists are &quot;blackening israel&#039;s name in the world&quot; is a huge problem in the Israel media today.
you hardly see any of the stories you read about here, being posted on ynet or nrg because in israel we&#039;re educated that we&#039;re all in this together and we have to stick together and there are two sides and we need to chose one and you&#039;re either with us or against us. 
The people writing here don&#039;t make this stuff up.
The govt. of israel is a body of educated people that make decisions. those decisions and their execution is the reason israel is portrayed the way it is internationally. its mostly negative because most of those decisions aren&#039;t positive.

I don&#039;t work for 972 but seems to me that they weren&#039;t really going for becoming the new ynet. they&#039;re simply helping complete the news picture.
and by the way, every major israeli paper online has an english version today, should that be canceled so that people on the outside can&#039;t read the less-positive things happening in israel?

every group that supports racism should be dealt with- muslim or jewish or whatever. just like every govt. should be held accountable for its actions- north korea, afghanistan, finland, israel. even if as citizens of that country its sometimes more than unpleasant to hear about things the govt. does &quot;for us&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BenIsrael:<br />
this notion that activists and journalists are &#8220;blackening israel&#8217;s name in the world&#8221; is a huge problem in the Israel media today.<br />
you hardly see any of the stories you read about here, being posted on ynet or nrg because in israel we&#8217;re educated that we&#8217;re all in this together and we have to stick together and there are two sides and we need to chose one and you&#8217;re either with us or against us.<br />
The people writing here don&#8217;t make this stuff up.<br />
The govt. of israel is a body of educated people that make decisions. those decisions and their execution is the reason israel is portrayed the way it is internationally. its mostly negative because most of those decisions aren&#8217;t positive.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t work for 972 but seems to me that they weren&#8217;t really going for becoming the new ynet. they&#8217;re simply helping complete the news picture.<br />
and by the way, every major israeli paper online has an english version today, should that be canceled so that people on the outside can&#8217;t read the less-positive things happening in israel?</p>
<p>every group that supports racism should be dealt with- muslim or jewish or whatever. just like every govt. should be held accountable for its actions- north korea, afghanistan, finland, israel. even if as citizens of that country its sometimes more than unpleasant to hear about things the govt. does &#8220;for us&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: anti-Israeli</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti-Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..a little ps vis a vis Auschwitz. 

It&#039;s one thing to turn your back on such horrifying atrocities, as many Germans undoubtedly did. It&#039;s quite another to openly applaud them, as the Israelis so often do. My own impression of Netanyahu&#039;s election victory is that the Israeli public found the Gaza massacre insufficient to satisfy their bloodlust. They felt short-changed that the Palestinians weren&#039;t exterminated. They needed someone MORE criminally insane and indifferent to human life than Barack and Livni. Enter Bibi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..a little ps vis a vis Auschwitz. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to turn your back on such horrifying atrocities, as many Germans undoubtedly did. It&#8217;s quite another to openly applaud them, as the Israelis so often do. My own impression of Netanyahu&#8217;s election victory is that the Israeli public found the Gaza massacre insufficient to satisfy their bloodlust. They felt short-changed that the Palestinians weren&#8217;t exterminated. They needed someone MORE criminally insane and indifferent to human life than Barack and Livni. Enter Bibi.</p>
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		<title>By: anti-Israeli</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti-Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi tahel

My last post was obviously intended for Ben Israel. 

I do however take issue to some extent with your characterization of Israeli avoidance of the Palestinian reality. During Operation Cast Lead, the Israelis pulled up lawn chairs to better observe the carnage. I don&#039;t think israelis are &#039;just like people everywhere.&#039; I think that they have become a Nazified society. The US suffered from this viral strain during the Vietnam war, though the opposition to it here was pretty fierce and widespread. That doesn&#039;t seem to be the case in Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi tahel</p>
<p>My last post was obviously intended for Ben Israel. </p>
<p>I do however take issue to some extent with your characterization of Israeli avoidance of the Palestinian reality. During Operation Cast Lead, the Israelis pulled up lawn chairs to better observe the carnage. I don&#8217;t think israelis are &#8216;just like people everywhere.&#8217; I think that they have become a Nazified society. The US suffered from this viral strain during the Vietnam war, though the opposition to it here was pretty fierce and widespread. That doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: anti-Israeli</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti-Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of Israeli vomit. 

This site has, to its enormous credit, posted article after article, video after video after video of the Israelis terrorizing Palestinian citizens, bulldozing their homes, bombing hospitals with phosphorus, uprooting olive groves--the settler riff raff beating and terrorizing the citizens, the land theft, the humiliation and relentless abuse. 

You have videos of the Arabs engaged in this behavior? Swell. Start your own site and post it. 


You&#039;re a cheap liar and a disgrace to Jewish people everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of Israeli vomit. </p>
<p>This site has, to its enormous credit, posted article after article, video after video after video of the Israelis terrorizing Palestinian citizens, bulldozing their homes, bombing hospitals with phosphorus, uprooting olive groves&#8211;the settler riff raff beating and terrorizing the citizens, the land theft, the humiliation and relentless abuse. </p>
<p>You have videos of the Arabs engaged in this behavior? Swell. Start your own site and post it. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a cheap liar and a disgrace to Jewish people everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Tahel Ilan</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/new-racist-rabbinical-letter-warns-against-dating-arabs/7350/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Tahel Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally, just from seeing how most of my friends react to me posting articles from this website on facebook (and my general impression of ppl around me) it seems that Israeli society is no different than any other on earth. its just that looking in on this kind of behavior from the inside is much harder for thinking and feeling people.
I remember when we were taken in high school to visit Auschwitz and we saw some houses right on the other side of the camp and we asked ourselves how could ppl let this happen? they knew, they saw. but they completely disassociated themselves from it.
same thing is happening in Israel today. A general disassociation and alieation of anyone who is even slightly different (arabs, migrants, even women).
The information ppl receive is manipulated (though i dont think anyone can claim they havent seen or heard at least some of the things happening, but for that there&#039;s always an excuse), we&#039;re educated from childhood to be in a constant state of panic and fear and this causes an incredible alienation of the palestinians. most Israelis have never met a palestinian but if u ask them they&#039;ll be able to give u a head-to-toe description. 
its partly the &quot;jewish arrogance&quot; we get from our surroundings- we tell ourselves that we&#039;re better and &#039;chosen&#039; and the world generally treats us that way. Its also education and the tribal-type-behavior that goes on.
From what i see, outrage doesnt make the bad feeling of witnessing such things go away. Joining grassroots and getting to know &quot;the other side&quot; does. It gives a better sense of humanity. at least to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally, just from seeing how most of my friends react to me posting articles from this website on facebook (and my general impression of ppl around me) it seems that Israeli society is no different than any other on earth. its just that looking in on this kind of behavior from the inside is much harder for thinking and feeling people.<br />
I remember when we were taken in high school to visit Auschwitz and we saw some houses right on the other side of the camp and we asked ourselves how could ppl let this happen? they knew, they saw. but they completely disassociated themselves from it.<br />
same thing is happening in Israel today. A general disassociation and alieation of anyone who is even slightly different (arabs, migrants, even women).<br />
The information ppl receive is manipulated (though i dont think anyone can claim they havent seen or heard at least some of the things happening, but for that there&#8217;s always an excuse), we&#8217;re educated from childhood to be in a constant state of panic and fear and this causes an incredible alienation of the palestinians. most Israelis have never met a palestinian but if u ask them they&#8217;ll be able to give u a head-to-toe description.<br />
its partly the &#8220;jewish arrogance&#8221; we get from our surroundings- we tell ourselves that we&#8217;re better and &#8216;chosen&#8217; and the world generally treats us that way. Its also education and the tribal-type-behavior that goes on.<br />
From what i see, outrage doesnt make the bad feeling of witnessing such things go away. Joining grassroots and getting to know &#8220;the other side&#8221; does. It gives a better sense of humanity. at least to me.</p>
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