19 comments for ”Triumphant over flotilla, Netanyahu is stronger than ever“

    
  1. I wish someone would write here on the ways that the flotilla sailed right into both Hamas’ and likud’s propaganda harbors.

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  3. The Titanic was “unsinkable” until it hit the iceberg.

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  5. I suspect that an unarmed Palestinian revolt will not only be the end of Netanyahu but also the end of Hamas and any other Palestinian government that limits the rights of the people and is in any way violent or corrupt.

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  7. In a famous note of 1948 Einstein wrote: “When a real and final catastrophe should befall us in Palestine the first responsible for it would be the British and the second responsible for it the Terrorist organizations build up from our own ranks.”
    As you say: “The Prime Minister is winning every battle on his way to lose the entire war.” I sure hope the peaceful resistance will have a long and lasting effect on the minds of the world leaders of the moment, before it’s too late.

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  9. ENGELBERT.
    I see you are pushing a book titled ” The invention of the Jewish people ” on your twitter. http://twitter.com/#!/eluitsz .
    Do tell us more! Any more nuanced takes on the current situation?
    Here is a more nuanced take by a Dutch Reporter for Radio Netherlands World Wide
    http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/gaza-activists-blinded-faith
    He abandoned the Dutch Boat for reasons I find none to surprising. Having worked with the far left at times, I know paranoia and control freakism is never far away…..

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  11. @Noam Sheizaf
    what no one is really talking about is that the victory in Bil’in was won in the Israeli Court system and not by the unarmed resistance. ofcouse such litigation can be viewed as unarmed resistance but still, I think some credit is due to the Israeli legal system and the supreme court for handing down this decision.
    Such credit that sometimes I feel writers like your self find very hard to give.

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  13. Selznick wrote: ” writers like your self ” which is hardly disrespectful.
    I can not help but notice that, Noam, you misquote ( ” writers like you ” ) although the text is right in front of you.
    Is this something You and some bloggers at 972 need to work on? Are we having a detail deficit in this complicated matter? Are we missing some nuances in the larger discourse here?
    I mean is this could be Mossad divers right here! changing screws and letters…..??

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  15. My problem is, not specific to this piece, the line between journalism and activism.
    972 blurs this line, by looking like a “newspaper”/news website, many work as journalists, and yet are also politically very active/activists.
    I think Glen Beck sucked, for obvious reasons. Many writers at 972 carry their personal struggle into their work. I find that many of you do not make this clear enough outside of 972. It’s kinda like making a Pro-Life activist in the USA head of Health Services. I’d find that problematic too.
    Regarding the “personal”, when someone actively and persistently tries to basically “dismantle” Israel as a Zionist State, I take it personal, as do many others, since you are working towards the abolition of my life. We are not talking about a 2% tax hike, but my Life in Israel. So I think, we must understand the personal.
    Ami Kaufman gets “personal” when he writes that all bets are off when you storm the fence in the Golan ( searched for his 972 piece but can not find it, sorry ).
    He is worried for his family.
    So am I.
    That is why it is personal.

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  17. I have huge issues ,Noam, with 972 pundits working for or often appearing on channels like CCTV, Al Jazzy and RT-TV. How can I respect a journalist as a source when your money comes from Peking or Moscow, or Dubai for that matter? All places that are not known for their truth. While Roee is interviewing J. Pollack his paymasters are literally clubbing a dozen villages into submission back in China, Ai Wei Wei, Tibet etc.
    Russian TV is a joke, for me. And Al Jazzy, well, hardly a nuanced take.
    I am not “aiming” for the perfect journalist. But I do look for a minimum of objectivity. Writing for hard line Palestinian outlets hardly enforces trust, as Dana ( Mr Pathos ) does,.

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  19. the bilin case was carelessly rejected at the israeli supreme court 3 times in a raw, and they didn’t change their decision until the struggle began and became such well known symbol of a non violent struggle in the west-bank, israel, the middle east and around the world. the last and new court decision, though, admitted that the taking of the lands was an organised, violent theft, but gave the bilin people only half of their grounds back because the other half is already occupied by a brand new israeli settlment (that was built quickly without even having israeli building permition…)……

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  21. David, I think that the fact that you are confused about the distinction between Zionism and your ‘Life in Israel’ is yet another sign that things have gotten out of hand here. I’m just saying.

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  23. Coming from the United States, it is a serious issues in politics and news of where one gets their funding. But even worse is those that level that charge without proof. I find comments like “Al-Jazzy”not very genuine in addressing a serious issue. However, I think one’s ideas can speak for themselves. Debate the argument, not the person. Does this article truly fall outside the mission statement at the top of this page – “independent reporting and commentary”? Not really.

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  25. I don’t know why Netanyahu is so passive, but the fact is that violence during his governments time is lower than during other governments.
    He must be doing something important right.

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  27. @ everyone

    I’m sorry if my comment offended on a personal level this is never my intention to offend anyone.
    I’m glad it did spark a debate about the line between activisim and journalism.
    as for your reply Noam: you wrote ” I have no doubt in my heart that if it wasn’t for the publicity the demonstrations gave the case, the ruling would have never occurred.”
    (1) a healthy journalist should always have doubt, atleast some, no?
    (2) there have been meny cases of demonstrations which have not changed supreme court decisions (look up Bagatz Horev – in the case about opening a road in Jerusalem close to an Orthodox neighbourhood). there have also been meny cases that the supreme court has not listened to palestinian demonstrations aswell.
    the supreme court (or any court in Israel) does not base its ruling on public opinion or public pressure, but on the rule of law.
    I know we can argue and agree on the rules (like the racist rules that are being passed down by this current government and meny others that still exist from previous ones).
    the fact the verdict has not been carried out for 4 years could be for various reasons ( probably army claming it needs time to replan the new fence) and has to do with the government lacking of enforcement of the verdict.
    this victory was won in the courts, as have other victories of palestinian rights (mostly workers rights) been won before. that does not mean that there have not been failures.
    unlike what Noam says I do believe this is a clear case of democracy in action in the sense that the rule of law prevails. I hope there will be meny more of these.

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  29. There is no need for change. The Palestinians have an ineffectual leadership that can’t make a compromise peace with Israel. Regardless of what people outside Israel think, the status quo is sustainable. Quite simply, no good alternative exists. Life is good for both the Jews and the Arabs. The first rule of politics is: don’t rock the boat. Netanyahu is doing a pretty good job abroad and at home and the Israeli center likes his peace policies. If an Arab leader came who would recognize Israel as a Jewish State, Israel’s government would have to heed the wishes of its people. As long as that is not in the cards, Israelis prefer stability and quiet. They know their country is the one country not shaken by the turmoil in the rest of the region. Israel’s future looks quite good!

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  31. It is not over yet, Obama get his Jewish votes and support.

    No it is not over, you jumped one hurdle but the finish line is far over the horizon.



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