Comments on: Netanyahu says “no” to the two-states solution http://972mag.com/netanyahu-says-%e2%80%9cno%e2%80%9d-to-the-two-states-solution/14861/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Sun, 19 May 2013 09:41:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Pitocco http://972mag.com/netanyahu-says-%e2%80%9cno%e2%80%9d-to-the-two-states-solution/14861/comment-page-1/#comment-11484 Pitocco Mon, 23 May 2011 07:33:45 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14861#comment-11484 @max Before 1948 in Palestine there was not war among jews and arabs. They lived whether side by side. There was not any clash and every people could live throught the time. After that time started the war or better some other wished to use jews, again, as in the history happen. Sometime I think that these arabs and jews are the face of the coin, but who hold it. @max
Before 1948 in Palestine there was not war among jews and arabs. They lived whether side by side. There was not any clash and every people could live throught the time.
After that time started the war or better some other wished to use jews, again, as in the history happen.
Sometime I think that these arabs and jews are the face of the coin, but who hold it.

]]> By: David EHG http://972mag.com/netanyahu-says-%e2%80%9cno%e2%80%9d-to-the-two-states-solution/14861/comment-page-1/#comment-11426 David EHG Sun, 22 May 2011 13:37:52 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14861#comment-11426 @Yossi -- to bolster your argument that Netanyahu is saying no, and has always said no, to two-states: 1) His consistent use of "Judea and Samaria to reference the West Bank, the language revealing his true, Greater Israel leanings, 2) The inclusion of The Jewish Home in his ruling coalition, 3) His refusal to admonish the likes of Danon, who in his recent NYTimes op-ed, entitled "Making the Land of Israel Whole" could not have been more explicit about his desire, as a Likudnick, to reclaim all Palestinians lands for the Jewish state. @Yossi — to bolster your argument that Netanyahu is saying no, and has always said no, to two-states: 1) His consistent use of “Judea and Samaria to reference the West Bank, the language revealing his true, Greater Israel leanings, 2) The inclusion of The Jewish Home in his ruling coalition, 3) His refusal to admonish the likes of Danon, who in his recent NYTimes op-ed, entitled “Making the Land of Israel Whole” could not have been more explicit about his desire, as a Likudnick, to reclaim all Palestinians lands for the Jewish state.

]]> By: max http://972mag.com/netanyahu-says-%e2%80%9cno%e2%80%9d-to-the-two-states-solution/14861/comment-page-1/#comment-11409 max Sun, 22 May 2011 08:32:21 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14861#comment-11409 Netanyahu explicitly said Yes to a 2-state solution. He also outlined what in his government's view are the parts that aren't negotiable, because they mean a national suicide. It may sound odd, but it's sometimes better to play with open cards. Less "politics" and more honesty. For example, wouldn't it be better for the PA (can't talk about Palestinians in general...) to also clearly state whether or not after they receive their land they may still be claiming the RoR? It's time for the Palestinians to stop their triplespeak games and clearly state their red lines. Let's not forget: it's not exactly YG that will decide the Palestinians' moves afterwards Netanyahu explicitly said Yes to a 2-state solution.
He also outlined what in his government’s view are the parts that aren’t negotiable, because they mean a national suicide.
It may sound odd, but it’s sometimes better to play with open cards. Less “politics” and more honesty.
For example, wouldn’t it be better for the PA (can’t talk about Palestinians in general…) to also clearly state whether or not after they receive their land they may still be claiming the RoR?
It’s time for the Palestinians to stop their triplespeak games and clearly state their red lines.
Let’s not forget: it’s not exactly YG that will decide the Palestinians’ moves afterwards

]]> By: Ben Israel http://972mag.com/netanyahu-says-%e2%80%9cno%e2%80%9d-to-the-two-states-solution/14861/comment-page-1/#comment-11360 Ben Israel Sat, 21 May 2011 18:44:09 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14861#comment-11360 Yossi- (1) You leave me breathless....on the one hand, you talk about "Israeli crimes", "persecution of a victimized people (the Palestinians), but its ridiculous to think that the Palestinians are the "peace refuseniks" when it is really Israel, and particularly Netanyahu. My question is: WHY SHOULD THE PALESTINIANS AGREE TO MAKE PEACE WITH SUCH AN "EVIL" COUNTRY LIKE ISRAEL?" (2) You really don't use much logic in claiming that Israel had such good wars (1956, 1967) when fought from the narrow 1949 cease-fire lines, but things were more difficult in 1973. Well, duh! Israel had its back to the wall in 56 and 67 and it felt it had not choice but to strike first because it had no strategic depth. In 1973 they felt they could absorb the first blow...something that might have been fatal in 67. Think about it. Yossi-
(1) You leave me breathless….on the one hand, you talk about “Israeli crimes”, “persecution of a victimized people (the Palestinians), but its ridiculous to think that the Palestinians are the “peace refuseniks” when it is really Israel, and particularly Netanyahu.
My question is: WHY SHOULD THE PALESTINIANS AGREE TO MAKE PEACE WITH SUCH AN “EVIL” COUNTRY LIKE ISRAEL?”

(2) You really don’t use much logic in claiming that Israel had such good wars (1956, 1967) when fought from the narrow 1949 cease-fire lines, but things were more difficult in 1973. Well, duh! Israel had its back to the wall in 56 and 67 and it felt it had not choice but to strike first because it had no strategic depth. In 1973 they felt they could absorb the first blow…something that might have been fatal in 67. Think about it.

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