Comments on: Media misconceptions: Is the conflict really about Jews vs. Arabs?

By: The Trespasser

The Trespasser — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:52:47 +0000

I am not discussing with him – just practicing in refuting crazy lies.

Thanx for the warning tho

By: Jonathan Affleck

Jonathan Affleck — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:47:53 +0000

Both Berl Katznelson and Vladimir Jabotinsky (along with Achimeir) defined the national struggle as the Jewish nation vs all others.

Jabotinsky wrote several articles about economic warfare against non-Jews.

By: Mitchell Cohen

Mitchell Cohen — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:58:03 +0000

Trespasser,

It (“Mikesailor”) ain’t worth it. Having a discussion with him/her is like having a discussion with David Duke.

By: Greg Pollock

Greg Pollock — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 05:38:52 +0000

You’ve taken a hard stand–for rights as such. Some people who rise easy in life do that; but, more often, the stand is perceived and defended by those who have hit barriers themselves. And taking this stand means even more hits. I was one who couldn’t take the hits. I can only hope, in these comments of mine, I am speaking rationally and with hope. Maybe doubt is part of the pirce of thinking about rights.

By: The Trespasser

The Trespasser — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:30:05 +0000

Mya, is there an organization or something which helps those refugees who are not capable of helping themselves?

I asking because there is that refugee female, probably in her early twenties. She lives on the street nearby one of TLV CBS, entrances. It appears that she is mentally unhealthy – or just from some rural land and speaks unknown dialect – anyway she does not associate with any of other refugees.

If there is no such organization than I’ll probably have to turn her in to the immigration police – hardly there could be anything worse than living near the station entrance.

By: The Trespasser

The Trespasser — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:13:40 +0000

So many irrelevant rhetorical questions…

>Is there one group that Jews show an affinity for that is not Jewish?

Yes. This particular website for instance.

>How many Christians are spat upon, monasteries and churches vandalized?

3? 5?

Why won’t you start counting Christians spat upon by Muslims and vice versa? I’m sure you’ll get to much higher numbers.

>How many mosques vandalized or subject to arson attacks?

Few magnitudes less than synagogues vandalized and burnt in Muslim countries.

Your point being?

>Is the new definition of ‘antisemitic’; those who hate Jews for being Jews or those Jews hate?

You are welcome to produce a proof of hatred by a significant number of Jews towards any other group.

Until than you claims remain empty and void.

>Most of the world has moved beyond defining citizenship based upon ethnicity or religious belief.

Not true.

>Only Israel seems to think that going backward to create a ‘Jewish’ state is admirable.

Not true as well. Besides what’s wrong with the desire to have an own state? You are not against the Islamic Republic of Iran, are you?

>Is xenophobia a ‘Jewish’ trait?

No, silly. Xenophobia is a pan-human trait.

>It seems an Israeli trait for sure.

What seems for sure is that you hate Israel and Israelis and are trying to rationalize it by libeling and generalizing huge groups of population consisting of people with most diverse opinions and affiliations.

By: Mikesailor

Mikesailor — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:58:53 +0000

Trespasser: Is there one group that Jews show an affinity for that is not Jewish? We are regaled with stories about how Jews have been discriminated against over millennia as a minority, yet Jews in the majority seem to discriminate against everyone not Jewish. How many Christians are spat upon, monasteries and churches vandalized? How many mosques vandalized or subject to arson attacks? Is the new definition of ‘antisemitic’; those who hate Jews for being Jews or those Jews hate? Most of the world has moved beyond defining citizenship based upon ethnicity or religious belief. Only Israel seems to think that going backward to create a ‘Jewish’ state is admirable. Is xenophobia a ‘Jewish’ trait? It seems an Israeli trit for sure.

By: The Trespasser

The Trespasser — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 13:27:33 +0000

>Is this the heart of the problem: Jews versus all non-Jews?

Since there is no acts of aggression amongst Jews and all non-Jews it is safe to conclude that this particular claim of yours in nonsense, like pretty much most of your other claims.

By: Jenny

Jenny — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:52:48 +0000

this is a really excellent piece, well done. A binary approach is a massive part of the problem.

By: Mya Guarnieri

Mya Guarnieri — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:01:27 +0000

CDeSole: Totally. The impact on Mizrachim and the flattening of Jewish identity both merit discussion but I didn’t feel like I had space for it here. I’m being urged to write a post about… hopefully will get to it relatively soon.

Thanks for reading and thanks for your thoughtful, productive comment.

Best,
Mya