Comments on: IDF wants death penalty for Itamar killers

By: Yonatan

Yonatan — Sun, 29 May 2011 14:30:14 +0000

And the same for the Oshrenko family killers?

By: Y.

Y. — Sat, 28 May 2011 16:03:27 +0000

The is a double standard and a double system of law here, but not the one Dimi says there is. Only Palestinians child killers can be expected to get luxury terms in jail and an early release – not Jewish ones.
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The demand for the death penalty is simply the other side of the demand by some to get Shalit (and previously, others) out ‘at any cost’ (which is supported by most on the Left and extreme Left). Until this is changed, we can expect such calls to continue.
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Oh, and talking about shooting prisoners without mentioning Line 300 affair (which completely rejected this notion) is indistinguishable from lying…

By: Leonid Levin

Leonid Levin — Sun, 22 May 2011 20:42:04 +0000

Why not just reinstate the death penalty? That’d be more in line with “a tooth for a tooth”. Why not just put on a death row the murderer of the Oshrenko family, the young settler who recently stabbed a Palestinian to death, the murderer of Yitzhak Rabin, the soldiers who killed hundreds of innocent civilians and children in Gaza?

By: Abban Aziz

Abban Aziz — Sun, 22 May 2011 04:44:29 +0000

your analogy is absurd and completely hypothetical.

what we have is facts and statistics. i explained quite clearly the reality of the complicated political system and you throw buzzwords like apartheid.

why not respond to my comment eh?

By: directrob

directrob — Sat, 21 May 2011 23:19:04 +0000

Abban Aziz,
Thank you for diagnosing my mental health.
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The real question remains if during a demonstration in Area C an Israeli and a Palestinian are arrested by the IDF for the same violation do they go to the same court and do the have the same protection under the law? Do a Palestinian 14 year and an Jewish 14 year old throwing stones in area C end up in the same prison?
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If no these are examples of violations of basic human rights, Article 7 the article that forbids all apartheid for the law…

By: Abban Aziz

Abban Aziz — Sat, 21 May 2011 21:30:07 +0000

“Dimi introduced the “Apartheid” word for the fact that there are two law systems in the West Bank, one for “Israeli” and one for “Palestinians”. If that is true than that is indeed an example of “apartheid” and of “racial discrimination”.”

no, apartheid is a race-based mode of government.

israel’s legal system is complicated and fragmented. the PLO has their own court system in areas they govern that tends to be dominated by sharia law.

palestinians who live in israeli-controlled areas have access to civilian courts in israel proper, but whether or not they are tried in palestinian courts depends historically.

we can’t forget the revolving door policy when the PLO began taking over the prisons and then releasing the terrorists.

but apartheid? you are mad. there is no apartheid. arab israelis are under the same laws as jews.

you want apartheid – go to east west bank, where minorities are treated like dogs. christians have half the rights muslim palestinians do.

By: Shoded Yam

Shoded Yam — Sat, 21 May 2011 21:20:01 +0000

“…I can only say that if the death penalty is good enough for them, it is good enough for us.”
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One can only wonder why you’ve come to this conclusion only after an arab has committed such butchery. Its not as if Israeli Jews heretofore,have not provided plenty of excuses to justify such punishment. But I’m sure you’re on board now, right ya chantarish? I mean afterall, justice is blind, no? Then all things being equal, you’ll have no problem when they throw a noose around the neck of Ronny Ron (the murderer of Rose Pizem) and pull it tight enough for his sphincter to open up, or maybe a lethal injection for Jack Teitel, that American-orthodox-jewish-settler-sonovabitch who shot those gay kids in the nightclub in TA and planted bombs next to arab kindergartens.

By: directrob

directrob — Sat, 21 May 2011 19:54:51 +0000

Abban Aziz, Max,
Great diversion of subject. Yes a lot is wrong in the world and the Palestinians have not the best leaders but this all has nothing to do with law in the West Bank.
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Dimi introduced the “Apartheid” word for the fact that there are two law systems in the West Bank, one for “Israeli” and one for “Palestinians”. If that is true than that is indeed an example of “apartheid” and of “racial discrimination”. Actually there is no need to use these laden words (races do not exist and apartheid is a word connected to the former South Africa system) as it violates universal human rights. I think Dimi has a very strong case.
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Would it not be better for Israel if Israel would enforce and apply laws equally for everyone in the West Bank?

By: Ben Israel

Ben Israel — Sat, 21 May 2011 19:02:20 +0000

The Palestinians carry out death sentences all the time, the most recent within the last couple of days. Since most of the “972″ columnists view the Palestinians as a much more virtuous people than us Israelis, I can only say that if the death penalty is good enough for them, it is good enough for us.

By: Abban Aziz

Abban Aziz — Sat, 21 May 2011 10:57:06 +0000

Even if we are to assume the apartheid libel, Israel’s relations with Palestinians aren’t even in the same league.

Post-apartheid South Africa is still more racist and apartheid than Israel on the worst days.