Comments on: Israel’s Transportation Ministry mulling separate buses for Palestinians http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:17:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8 By: Vicky http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94809 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:57:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94809 I understand that. I have a couple of friends who are in the same place. It’s not easy. But the invitation’s there if/when you want it.

Running? If there’s something to run away from. :P My balance is off, so generally I prefer to be in water than on my feet. I do like to walk though.

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By: Mitchell Cohen http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94727 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:14:58 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94727 Vicky, yes that’s the sign. Maybe one day I will come visit you. I just don’t know if I am ready yet. Not because I don’t think you are sincere and would be a great host. I am just not there yet. I guess I agree with you about “football” (aka soccer). Not exactly my favorite sport either. Do you run by any chance?-)

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By: Vicky http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94689 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:38:57 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94689 http://wp.me/aWR4n-mO

That sign? This particular photo of it was taken by an Israeli friend the last time she visited me. You and your family would be more than welcome to visit also. I mean that. Feeding you might be a bit of a difficulty (I presume you’re kosher) but getting you past the sign wouldn’t be such an issue. It would certainly be far simpler than persuading me to attend any football match anywhere.

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By: Mitchell Cohen http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94678 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:12:02 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94678 Vicky, can I come visit you in Bethlehem one day? The answer is no because I am forbidden from doing so. I will be glad to take a picture of the sign that forbids me and all other Israelis from entering. Do I blame YOU for this? Of course not. Maybe they will have another soccer game between Israelis and Palestinians in Efrat one day. That is probably the closest we will come to seeing each other in the near future.

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By: Vicky http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94675 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:33:20 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94675 I know that there are Jews who do it too. I also know that there are Jews who move into settlements because they’re hard up and it’s affordable. But this doesn’t alter one jot the point I was making: people who are happy to have an Arab doing menial work in their home (and it is overwhelmingly menial work) are not necessarily going to be happy to have that same person sitting next to them on the bus. We saw this same thing happen in the Deep South; the guy who was good enough to do your housework couldn’t share your transport. There were enough white people who cleaned toilets too at that time, but did that change anything about the nature of segregation and how it worked?

I think I’ve trodden on a nerve here, and if I’ve upset you, I apologise. I don’t have anything particular against you; you seem like a kind man. I don’t have anything particular against settlers as a group, as it’s possible to live in Tel Aviv and still be mired in occupation up to your neck – location isn’t the most relevant thing. Indifference is, and silence. I brought up where you live in the other thread because the discussion was on democracy and you have a ringside seat on undemocratic rule, not because I think you’re that much more culpable than anybody else. But you do have a better view. To talk about democracy when you’re within easy walking distance of Artas and to express surprise over a request for segregated transport when you’re just down the road from us in Bethlehem seems strange to me.

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By: Mitchell Cohen http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94614 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:38:51 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94614 Oh, BTW Vicky, there are Jews who also clean other people’s toilets. I am one of them. Yes, as a second job I clean houses. Being the price of food is going up by the week and Israel Electric keeps raising the price of electricity, so that their employees can still get electricity for free, I have taken on extra work cleaning for the past couple of years. I have also worked in construction. So, to put the “progressive” stereotype to rest, there are Jews that do this “Arab” work.

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By: The Trespasser http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94465 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:39:03 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94465 I think that it would be best for all if after the UN vote ALL Palestinians would be denied work in Israel.

Indeed, why should they be allowed?

There is not international law obliging Israel to employ anyone, so a lot of trouble could be save if Palestinians go and work elsewhere – or create jobs by themselves – as any normal nation would.

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By: The Trespasser http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94463 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:34:59 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94463 By what law exactly do they own any land?

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By: Vicky http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94445 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:01:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94445 And the justifications have arrived, with an incredibly subtle, “I’m not racist, I even have black friends!” tacked on to the end.

Jewish passengers have complained about having Palestinians on the bus. The bus company has said that it is ‘in ongoing negotiations with authorities regarding a possible alternative solution to the problem’. So this is between a group of Jewish passengers, the bus company, and the Israeli authorities – there is not one word about obliging bosses wanting to ferry their employees from the captive labour market (not ‘migrant workers’) into Israel on private transport. Passengers en route home are being ordered off the bus a few km before their stop, to satisfy complaining settlers, and are having to walk the rest of the way, so it isn’t that there is no convenient stop for them.

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By: Mitchell Cohen http://972mag.com/israels-transportation-ministry-mulling-separate-buses-for-palestinians/60958/comment-page-1/#comment-94441 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:39:10 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=60958#comment-94441 Don’t know….I really couldn’t give a darn who sits next to me on the bus, as long as they don’t bother me from catching up on my sleep when commuting between my two jobs….But, that’s just me I guess….

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