13 comments for ”Israel’s deadliest fire: Eli Yishai must go“

    
  1. [...] they’re asking the same questions in Israel. Israeli blogger Noam Sheizaf has placed direct blame at the feet of the Ministry of Interior, who may turn out to be the the Israeli equivalent of our [...]

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  3. We already had our Katrina and worse.

    It was called here the Second Lebanon War, where the Leftist government refused to implement any sensible policy and ignored the civilian population for a month. This didn’t prevent Haaretz and other media from asking the public not to replace the then PM.

    So I don’t think the current government looks too bad – firefighter funding can’t be laid only at their door, and nearly all of the dead were from the bus disaster (which funding wouldn’t have stopped). Otherwise, they took command quickly, and weren’t shy about asking for help.

    Now, this doesn’t mean they don’t have any responsibility here, including by Yishai. As said, Lack of firefighter funding is one. But maybe a just as important fault is the lack of law enforcement in some certain sectors of Israel – we already know that the entire thing started somehow at an illegal dump, and that (copycat?) arsonists later started fires which made the firefighters’ job harder. But looking there is not so ideologically convenient, is it?

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  5. Hard to believe that there are fortunes available when it comes to a new Iron Dome system, but not for 1 single fire-fighting plane.

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  7. Oh, and come to think of it, Yishai’s long standing role in the Interior Ministry (including some previous governments) makes him especially responsible here. No wonder he called for a committee – ever since “Esek Habish” through Agrant and upto Winograd, it’s the favourite method by Israeli politicians to make a cover up.

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  9. Y – could you elaborate on what you meant by “not so ideologically convenient”? Because I have a feeling you’re talking about Druze. Just wanted to make sure. Then that would mean that you believe only Druze start fires. Or only Druze have illegal dumps. I certainly hope you’re a bit more informed than that.

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  11. As a matter of fact, I was aware that it was a Druze village. Israel is losing control of its minority and Haredi populations. The writ of the law runs less and less there. To give a Druze example, do you remember the riots in Marar (I could be spelling this wrong)? The police initially refused to enter! (IIRC, they entered after it quieted down). The character of the problem is a little different amongest each population (Haredi and Druze don’t have irredentist aspirations), but it exists in all of them.

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  13. [...] 972Mag “Yet this failure has an address. This person disappeared from the public eye Thursday, and [...]

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  15. I was fairly pissed off earlier (due to the fire and since I thought certain people were more interested in political hay. In retrospect I threw some back myself), but maybe now it’s possible to summarize the questions:

    1. How did the fire start in the first place?
    2. What conditions made it spread so easily?
    3. Why did it take two hours for the fire brigade to start handling this?
    4. The circumstances of the bus disaster.
    5. General state of fire brigade. Why was the fire retardant chemical supply so low (note [1] though)? Why are there so few firemen?
    6. Why is the organizational form of the fire brigades so twisted? What happened to the centralization reform?

    I have some ideas for answers.
    Most interesting here is a document dump[2] very likely inspired by Yishai. Nevertheless, I think it places him in a poor light.

    [2]
    http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=22158

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  17. 1 How did the fire start in the first place?

    Maybe it was those yeshiva boys again

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3925261,00.html

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  19. Being an impostor is a sign of being loser – get lost (and while at it, look up what “Fox’s tail” meant in the early eighties).

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  21. [...] Jews. His name is Eli Yishai, and he is the Minister of Interior. As Noam Sheizaf wrote in “Israel’s deadliest fire ever: eli Yishai must go,” he  is directly responsible for drying up the fire department’s funds and the money [...]

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  23. [...] the debate inside Israel contains many similar sentiments. There are calls for the resignation of Minister of the Interior Eli Yishai, who has spent more time this year fighting to deport a handful of migrant workers’ children [...]

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