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Israeli police lock up Haifa activist for Facebook statuses

Police detained and held Razi Nabulsi, a young Palestinian from Haifa for a week for statuses he posted to Facebook and Twitter, claiming they constituted incitement. The catch? Even though the statuses were posted publicly on the Internet, police declared them to be secret evidence and refused to publicly say in court what he was accused of writing.

By Yoav Haifawi

Palestinian Activist Razi Nabulsi hugs his mother following his release from jail, in Haifa court, October 16, 2013. (Photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

Razi Nabulsi, a 23-year-old activist and student in Haifa, spent the last week in jail for statuses he publicly posted on Facebook and Twitter.

His detention was extended twice. In four different court hearings during the week (two remand extension hearings and two appeals) the Haifa court decided that his statuses constitute a danger to the State of Israel. The court extended his remand to custody on the grounds of “incitement.”

Razi was represented by attorneys Aram Mahamid and Hassan Jabareen from Adalah – The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel.

The materials the police submitted to the judge were, of course, “secret.” What we were able to understand from what police investigators said in court in response to the defense attorneys, was that the allegations were based on statuses Razi supposedly posted on Facebook and some leaflets that were distributed in the streets of Haifa. He was also accused of possessing books by the Palestinian writer Ghassan Kanafani.

Police freely admitted that Razi was not accused of any violence and clarified that they do not suspect that any other person committed any offense as a result of Razi’s “incitement.” Police also told the court that Razi participated in demonstrations, as if that’s a crime.

Attorney Hassan Jabareen speaks with a Prison Service officers through an intercom, to ask when his client, Razi Nabulsi, will be released, in Haifa court, October 16, 2013. (Photo: Oren Ziv/Activestills.org)

The weirdest thing about Razi’s ordeal was that, with the exception of some translated texts (more on that below), the prosecution refused to say in court what Razi wrote in his statuses. All the protestations of the lawyers from Adalah, which claimed that statuses that you publish online can’t be defined as “secret” and that there is no logic to accusing somebody of “incitement” without relating it to specific statements, were in vain.

In one of his hearings, Razi’s attorney argued: “When the publication is the basis of the offense, it doesn’t make any sense that the published material is kept secret… and the publication itself was public.”

The judge rejected the argument.

According to what the Haifa police representative said in court, the State Attorney gave police special permission to open an investigation against Razi on July 10. Only now, after three months of an undercover investigation, did they decide to make the investigation public by searching Razi’s home and detaining the “target.”

For those unfamiliar with Israel’s legal system – it should be made clear that Razi was detained “for interrogation” and was not indicted for any crime. Israeli law allows such detention for purposes of interrogation to last for several weeks.

The art of police translation

In one of the remand extension hearings police presented some Hebrew texts it claimed were translation of statuses which Razi posted on his Facebook page in Arabic. The defense attorney requested to see the original Arabic texts, because translations by the police are sometimes misguided, biased or might distort the author’s intention. Police refused to allow the lawyer to see the original Arabic texts that they claimed to have “translated” – claiming that they were secret investigative materials.

Several years ago a group of protesters from the city of Allid (Lod) was accused of possessing a sign that says “كل الكرامة والعزة لشهدائنا الأبرار” (All the honor and glory of our innocent martyrs). The police translated it to “כל הכבוד לעזה והמחבלים המתאבדים” (“All the honor to Gaza and the suicide terrorists”). The detainees’ attorney argued strongly against the false and misleading translation, which violated his client rights. The judge (in this case eager to see justice) ordered the police to bring a professional translation by an academic expert in Arabic.

The protesters remained in jail for another week, until the authorized translation arrived.

The most dangerous Facebook status

You might understand that we were all deadly curious to know what was in Razi’s Facebook statuses.

So after full seven days in detention, when Razi was finally released on Wednesday, we went to his family’s home in ‘Iblin (in the Galilee), where he is under house arrest, to say Hamdillilah ‘A Salameh and ask what those dangerous statuses were all about.

Razi gave us many examples of the statuses he was interrogated about, divided between the foolish, misleading translations, ignorance, gossip, whatever. But at least in one case I could understand the horror his status aroused in the people that are responsible for state security.

“One day the nightmare will be over,” the status read.

The interrogator claimed he clearly wrote it to express his wish that the state of Israel will cease to exist!

Razi has his own blog (Arabic) and I’m sure that he will write all the important details about his detention and interrogation. But as of now he is forbidden by court order from touching a computer or any other “media tool,” including a phone (until Sunday), a release condition the police didn’t even ask for.

*Yoav Haifawi is the pen name of a Haifa-based activist. He maintains the Free Haifa blogs (in English, Arabic & Hebrew). A version of this article first appeared on Free Haifa English.

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    1. Mobius Dumpling

      what an abboration of justice. I’m a Jew, but I’m well aware that in a few years they’ll start doing this to me as well. Yoav Haifawi, thanks for reporting. And Razi, you have the support of the regrettably few of us who care about free speech, freedom, and the right of all men for self governance.

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    2. Zhang

      Israel, please treat your Arab cousins as you would your own brethren. May God guide your hand.

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    3. “police presented some Hebrew texts it claimed were translation of statuses which Razi posted on his Facebook page in Arabic. The defense attorney requested to see the original Arabic texts, because translations by the police are sometimes misguided, biased or might distort the author’s intention. Police refused to allow the lawyer to see the original Arabic texts that they claimed to have “translated” – claiming that they were secret investigative materials.” : I suggest creating a weekly Kafka award and nominate this event as first recipient. To declare public text “secret,” thereby denying the accused the right to confront evidence against himself is inane. Why not forego court hearing completely? Just ask the police involved to sign a statement saying everything they do is for the good of Israel.

      A 23 year old should not be subject to this in the country of his birth. In this case, the police and court created the “long nightmare.”

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    4. Palestinian

      Are we criminals if we wish the state of Israel ceases to exist!?!
      The Zionist colonists/ thieves/ terrorists had no problem with erasing hundreds of Palestinian villages and cities …

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      • JohnW

        Question to Palestinian:

        Let us suppose that in 1948, the Palestinian Arabs and their brothers would have been victorious over the Zionists. What would you have done to the 600,000 Jewish Zionists who lived in Palestine in 1948?

        Be honest now!

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        • Palestinian

          Well I’m not the right person to ask for several reasons,but if a thief broke into my house I would kick him out.Wouldn’t you do the same John ?

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          • JohnW

            Thank you for your honesty, Palestinian. Thanks for admitting that you would have perpetrated a Nakbah on the 600,000 Jews of Palestine had you won the war in 1948. Just for the record, your then fearless leader, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin Al Husseini, promised worse. He promised the total extermination of Jews in Palestine, and he laid actual plans to do it with his bosom buddy, Hitler.

            Now let me answer your question to me about what I would do. Yes, if I owned a place and someone would try to take it from me, then I would try to repel him. But if I was a lodger sharing the place with a long lost relative who used to own the place long ago and who came back recently, I would have happily shared the place with him and try to build it up to our mutual benefit.

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          • Palestinian

            Please John don’t put words in my mouth.Returning the immigrants ,who wanted to expel the indigenous population and steal their homeland, to their homelands wouldn’t have been a Nakba.

            The Zionist Jews who immigrated to Palestine ,and specifically the Ashkenazim ,aren’t our “lost relatives”.They wanted to build a Jewish homeland in a land with a tiny Jewish community ,and the only way was to get rid of the non-Jewish population.It’s simple…

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          • JohnW

            Returning the “immigrants” to Europe is a euphemism for expelling them which would have been a Nakbah. By 1948, some of the Jews whom you call immigrants were third generation natives whose grand parents returned to reclaim their ancestral home land from around the mid 1800s. Nor did they take the land by force. They bought some of the land from absentee Arab land lords who sold those lands to Jews at exhorbitant prices.

            Moreover, around the mid 1800s, the total Arab population was estimated to be around 450,000. So the Arab Palestinians certainly did not inhabit ALL of Palestine. There were vast empty crown lands some of which were given/sold by the sovereign authorities to the returning Jews.

            You want to dispute that there were vast empty spaces? Then read the account by Mark Twain who visited Palestine around that time. Also, you might consider that even now, with a combined Arab Jewish Population of over 10 million people, on the land which used to be called Palestine, there are still lots of empty spaces. So it is beyond dispute that back in the mid 1800s, Palestine was sparsely populated and the Jews settled mostly on empty patches of land or lands bought (as mentioned above).

            PS
            In the mid 1800s, the Jewish population of Jerusalem exceeded the Arab population significantly. In other words, The Jewish population was a majority.

            With regards to whether Jews and Arabs are relatives or not, we debated that already. So I would prefer not to go over it again. But it is quite probable that some of the Arabs, though not all, were Arabized people of ancient dwellers on the land, maybe even Jews who converted to Islam. Others were descendants of invading Arab tribes.

            The Jews, Ashkenazi Jews too, on the other hand are descendants of the Jewish people who were forced to flee or were taken to slavery after the Romans destroyed the second Temple of Jerusalem.

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          • Palestinian

            Returning dangerous immigrants to their homelands isn’t a Nakba.By 1948 the majority of Jews in Palestine were immigrants to a land they had never been to.

            Sweden is almost 17 times the land area of Palestine with 9.5 m people, I’m not sure how would they feel about a Palestinian state there, claiming “the land is empty”!

            When were Jews a majority in Jerusalem?

            Can you prove the Jews today are descendants of those who lived here 3000 years ago?

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          • JohnW

            “Returning dangerous immigrants to their homelands isn’t a Nakba.”

            Your logic works both ways. Jews can claim that you people are dangerous. And judging by your (and your collective) attitude they are right.

            “By 1948 the majority of Jews in Palestine were immigrants to a land they had never been to.”

            But many of the Jews lived in Palestine for generatins in 1948. Moreover, their ancestors lived there 2000 years before..

            “Sweden is almost 17 times the land area of Palestine with 9.5 m people, I’m not sure how would they feel about a Palestinian state there, claiming “the land is empty”!”

            But the Swedes were the sovereign owners of Sweden. The Palestinian Arabs however were NOT the sovereign owners of Palestine in 1948.

            “When were Jews a majority in Jerusalem?” In the mid 1800s. Here read about it:

            http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1854/03/28.htm

            “Can you prove the Jews today are descendants of those who lived here 3000 years ago?”

            Read respectable history books and look at archeological evidence. They trace the movements of various Ashkenazi Jewish communities from the time that they were forced to flee Judea, to various places in Europe. The history books never mention that the Jews died out or disappeared. And here they are today. Where did they come from? And why would they claim to be Jews if they would not be the descendants of those original Jews? What would be in it for them? More persecutions? Is the land of Palestine such a rich place that it would be worth it? If their heart would be set on stealing someone else’s land, why would it be Palestine and not a richer place? Unless they kept their original faith for 2000 years that one day they would return.

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          • Palestinian

            Zionist Jews came to us not the other way around!

            The existence of a very small community of Jews (some were immigrants) in Palestine doesn’t give Jewish colonists from Poland and Russia a free ticket to steal the land.

            Jerusalem: From the article you posted “The Jews, however, are not natives, but from different and distant countries” ROFL hehehe hahaha

            Where did they come from? 5 continents
            And why would they claim to be Jews? Because they are Jewish just like Christians are Christians and Muslims are Muslims ….smart question

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          • JohnW

            “Zionist Jews came to us not the other way around!”

            The Zionists did not come to you. They came back to THEIR ancestral home land.

            “The existence of a very small community of Jews (some were immigrants) in Palestine doesn’t give Jewish colonists from Poland and Russia a free ticket to steal the land.”

            AGAIN, they did not steal land. They bought land for good money or they settlend on land which was not inhabited by anyone and which was NOT YOUR LAND, no matter how often you assert that it was.

            “Jerusalem: From the article you posted “The Jews, however, are not natives, but from different and distant countries” ROFL hehehe hahaha”

            You can ROFL as much as you want but as far back as 1854, there were more Jews living in Jerusalem than Arabs. In fact twice as many Jews.

            “Where did they come from? 5 continents
            And why would they claim to be Jews? Because they are Jewish just like Christians are Christians and Muslims are Muslims ….smart question”

            Well done Palestinian. Now complete the whole statement. They are Jews …. Who are …. ? Descendants of the Judeans who owned the land 2000 years ago, way before the Arab invaders colonised the land in 634AD.

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          • Palestinian

            If Palestine is their ancestral homeland then Russia belongs to Kenyans!

            How many acres of land did they purchase?

            The Jews in Jerusalem weren’t native to the land.If thieves/guests in your house outnumber your family members,it doesn’t make it theirs (assuming the numbers are correct).

            Descendants of converts to Judaism from Europe or India aren’t Middle Eastern. You need to get over myths and inherited Zionist lies.

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          • JohnW

            Excuse me for a minute.

            When was there a sovereign Palestinian Arab state in history? And if two people live on the same land under the rule of a dominant power, why wouldn’t some of the land belong go the other group too? Particularly since ALL the land used to belong once to that other group (the Jews).

            Please explain how many generations do a people have to live on a land before they are to be considered natives too?

            What makes the Arabs so special that once they take over a land by force, it belongs to them and only to them forever? They can take it by force from others? But others cannot take it back even by buying land? Or settling on empty lands?

            People like you are full of hot air. All you bring upon your people is disaster. So stop complaining if others become bloody minded with you when you are so bloody minded!

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          • JohnW

            “If Palestine is their ancestral homeland then Russia belongs to Kenyans!”

            No! The ancestors of Kenyans never lived in Russia.

            “How many acres of land did they purchase?”

            Are you denying that Jews purchased lands in Palestine between 1850 and 1948?

            “The Jews in Jerusalem weren’t native to the land.”

            And all the Arabs were? You mean there was no Arab immigration to Palestine between 1850 and 1948?

            By the way, if there was a majority Jewish population in Jerusalem in 1854 and they have descendants, would you say that by 2013, those descendants are natives?

            “If thieves/guests in your house outnumber your family members,it doesn’t make it theirs (assuming the numbers are correct).”

            The Arabs came to Palestine from the Arabian peninsula as thieves. Prove to me that YOU are not one of their descendants!

            “Descendants of converts to Judaism from Europe or India aren’t Middle Eastern. You need to get over myths and inherited Zionist lies.”

            Here you go again making up fairy tales to deny reality. Why don’t you say that Jews are actually little green men from Mars who invaded Palestine? Go on … you may as well … It would be no more stupid than your denial of history.

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          • Palestinian

            The ancestors of Russians and Silverman family never lived in Palestine.

            Again how many acres of land did they purchase?

            Jerusalem :According to Ruth Kark and Michal Oren Nordheim almost 20,000 non-Jews and 5,580 Jews lived in Jerusalem in 1851,and 13,300 non-Jews and 5,700 Jews in 1856.Your favorite writer didn’t state the Arabs weren’t natives unlike the Jews who came from different countries , just like today.

            Its your job to prove that I am a descendant of Arabs from Arabia,after you define an “Arab”.

            You see your whole argument is based on myths, lies and assumptions, and words like “ancestor”, “return”….

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          • JohnW

            “Again how many acres of land did they purchase?”

            Again, are you denying that Jews purchased lands between 1850 and 1948 in Palestine?

            “Jerusalem :According to Ruth Kark and Michal Oren Nordheim … ”

            I notice you have not produced a link to back up your claim.

            “Its your job to prove that I am a descendant of Arabs from Arabia,after you define an “Arab”.

            You don’t accept proof, period. So I can play your “proof” game too. You prove that you are not a descendant of invading Arab thieves.

            “Arabs are natives?”

            Define natives.

            “You see your whole argument is based on myths, lies and assumptions, and words like “ancestor”, “return”….”

            You just described your own argument.

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          • Palestinian

            I’m not denying anything, I’m just asking a simple question!

            Jerusalem: It’s a book “Jerusalem and Its Environs”

            You don’t provide proofs only myths and lies.

            I asked you to define an “Arab”

            My argument is based on facts , lists of immigrants from Russia and Poland….

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          • JohnW

            “I’m not denying anything, I’m just asking a simple question!”

            Jews bought the lands that they lived on in Palestine between 1850 and 1948. They did not steal those lands. That is a fact.

            “Jerusalem: It’s a book “Jerusalem and Its Environs”

            Link please.

            “You don’t provide proofs only myths and lies.”

            Jews are the descendants of Judeans who owned Palestine way before the Arab invasion of 634 AD. That is NOT a myth, nor is it a lie.

            “I asked you to define an “Arab”

            And I asked you to define “Native”.

            “My argument is based on facts , lists of immigrants from Russia and Poland….”

            Your argument is based on the denial that some Jews are natives of Palestine and others are returning descendants of people who used to own Palestine before the Arab invasion.

            Oh and you still have not proved that you are not one of the descendants of those invading thiefs.

            You like your “proof game”, Palestinian? I can play it too.

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          • Palestinian

            How many acres of land did they buy?

            http://www.amazon.com/Jerusalem-Its-Environs-Neighborhoods-Historical/dp/0814329098

            Can you prove Jews today are the descendants of Judeans who…?

            I will answer your question after you answer mine.

            My argument is based on facts that refute your claims (lies), you are unable to deal with facts, your problem not mine.

            If you wanna play the “proof game” you need to practice buddy, so far you have lost

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          • JohnW

            “How many acres of land did they buy?”

            All the land that they lived on, they bought. By 1948, there were 600,000 Jews in Palestine. Not a single one of them lived on stolen land.

            “http://www.amazon.com/Jerusalem-Its-Environs-Neighborhoods-Historical/dp/0814329098″
            The link does not mention your figures. But if you google “population of Jerusalem 1850″ you can find more links which verify what my first link said: that between 1850 and the late 1800s Jerusalem had a majority of Jews.

            “Can you prove Jews today are the descendants of Judeans who…?”

            AGAIN: Archeological and historical accounts such as (Josephus) tell of the Jewish rebellion against Rome around 70AD. That proves that Palestine was inhabited by Jews. Most Jews were subsequently forced to flee Judea which was renamed by the Romans to Palestine. There are Jewish synagogues in modern Rome in Italy which date back to Roman times. And there are historical accounts of how Jewish communities migrated across Eastern and central Europe. These accounts detail the history of Jews continuously from Roman times to our present day. Read them yourself.

            http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Europe

            There are others. Just google “history of European Jews”. Satisfied now?

            “I will answer your question after you answer mine.”

            Why should I define what an Arab is? You are an Arab, you tell me.

            Now answer my question. You talk a lot about “natives”. Give me YOUR definition of what a native is so I can have a good belly laugh.

            “My argument is based on facts”

            Your argument is based on BS and denial.

            “that refute your claims (lies)”

            You have not been able to refute a single thing that I said.

            “you are unable to deal with facts”

            Again, you are talking about yourself.

            If you wanna play the “proof game” you need to practice buddy”

            OK buddy, I ask you again: Prove to us that you are not a descendant of thieving Arab invaders of Palestine. You do know that Arabs invaded Palestine in 634 AD, don’t you? Or do you deny that too?

            “so far you have lost”

            LOL.

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          • Palestinian

            Land: If you are sure they did purchase land , don’t you know how many dunums ?

            The book mentions my figures, you can buy it online

            Jews in Europe: The history of Christians in Europe doesn’t make them Middle Eastern or Palestinian!

            You claimed that 3rd generation Jews in Palestine were natives to the land, define native.

            I deny myths and provide facts .Shimon Peres ,Benzion Netenyahu and Eitan Livni were born in Poland , can you deny that ?

            You claim I am a descendant of Arabs from Arabia, it’s your job to prove it .

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          • JohnW

            Land: Do you deny that Jews purchased all the lands that they lived on in Palestine between 1850 and 1948?

            Book: Your book is on the list of recommended reading by Dr Walid Mustafa of Betlehem University. Are you claiming that he is just an impartial observer? LOL.
            Now here is another site which confirm that Jews were in the majority in Jerusalem:

            http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

            I can give you more sites just ask me nicely.

            “Jews in Europe: The history of Christians in Europe doesn’t make them Middle Eastern or Palestinian!”

            No but it proves that they were descendants of people who were kicked out of Judea 2000 years ago.

            “You claimed that 3rd generation Jews in Palestine were natives to the land, define native.”

            Natives are people who are born in that place.

            Birth Place: Both Benyamin Netenyahu and Tzipi Livni were born in Tel Aviv.

            “You claim I am a descendant of Arabs from Arabia, it’s your job to prove it”

            You claim that you are a descendant of indigenous people rather than land thieving Arab invaders. It is your job to prove that you really are a descendant of indigineous people.

            Don’t blame me. You are the one who started this “prove it” game. Most Jews have agreed to the two state solution but you are the one who wants to kick out every single Jew who cannot meet your impossible standards of proof.

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          • JohnW

            The poster who calls himself Palestinian here, talks about “Jewish colonists from Poland and Russia with a free ticket to steal the land”

            I in turn took the liberty, a few hours ago, to use similar strong language about land thieving Arab invaders (referring to the Arab invasion of Palestine in 634 AD).

            My post was not published presumably because of the above strong language?

            OK, I would understand that if only that standard would be equally applied by whoever makes editorial decisions in this magazine.

            But alas it does not appear to be the case. One standard applies to Jews here and another standard applies to Jew haters, like “Palestinian”. By being so discriminatory, this magazine therefore forfeited it’s right to preach to others about discrimination. Unless of course they will agree to publish my post too!

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          • JohnW

            Land: Do you deny that Jews purchased all the lands that they lived on in Palestine between 1850 and 1948?

            Book: Your book is on the list of recommended reading by Dr Walid Mustafa of Betlehem University. Are you claiming that he is just an impartial observer? LOL.
            Now here is another site which confirm that Jews were in the majority in Jerusalem:

            http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

            I can give you more sites just ask me nicely.

            “Jews in Europe: The history of Christians in Europe doesn’t make them Middle Eastern or Palestinian!”

            No but it proves that they were descendants of people who were kicked out of Judea 2000 years ago.

            “You claimed that 3rd generation Jews in Palestine were natives to the land, define native.”

            Natives are people who are born in that place.

            Birth Place: Both Benyamin Netenyahu and Tzipi Livni were born in Tel Aviv.

            “You claim I am a descendant of Arabs from Arabia, it’s your job to prove it”

            You claim that you are a descendant of indigenous people rather than the land thieving Arab invaders of 634 AD. It is your job to prove that you really are a descendant of indigineous people.

            Don’t blame me. You are the one who started this “prove it” game. Most Jews have agreed to the two state solution but you are the one who wants to kick out every single Jew who cannot meet your impossible standards of proof.

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          • Vadim

            In a certain sense it’s amusing you think people that are named Zion or Israel, or whose last name is Cohen or Katz don’t belong here, but Al-Masri or al-Faruqi lived here for a millennia and have full rights on the land.

            On a less amusing note – what you say is called ethnic cleansing. There is no justice there, nor anything good.

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          • Palestinian

            Family names don’t necessarily indicate where a person is originally from.For example I had a blond colleague from Syria ,his last name was Al Saudi ,is it possible he is originally from Saudi Arabia ?!A blonde from the KSA ?!! Come on use your brain once in your life …please

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          • Shmuel

            The cause for tragedy of Palestine/Israel is clearly illustrated by the attitude that Palestinian exhibits. Total intransigence, no compromise and an inability to see the other’s point of view. Yes we have Israelis like that too but they represent a minority of Israelis. Unfortunately though the views that our ‘Palestinian’ here espouses, represents the majority point of view amongst the Palestinian people. They say:

            - All the land is ours, Jews don’t have a right to ANY land.

            - The Arab invasion made the land irrevocably Arab. It does not matter who else lived here before the Arab invasion.

            - In order to support their zero sum game, they invent totally implausible stories to deny the existence of the Jewish people. Or they just simply dismiss Jewish claims.

            - What happened in 1948 was a Nakba, but if Arabs would do the same to Jews, it would NOT be a Nakba.

            How can there be peace and an end to the occupation so long as attitudes like that predominate amongst Palestinians?

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          • Palestinian

            The other’s point of view? You mean myths and repeated lies that justify ethnic cleansing and land theft ? The same broken record of “ancestral ties” “A land without a people for a people without a land” …..Rubbish

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          • Shmuel

            I rest my case.

            They just deny, deny, deny, anything that does not support their zero sum game.

            Maybe Jews too should start doing the same. Sometimes being too reasonable and being willing to share is misconstrued as weakness. In fact they may even be right. Maybe it IS A WEAKNESS. Maybe we too should start playing a zero sum game?

            Nah, just kidding. That would make us as stupid as some Palestinians. The ones who feel the same way as the poster who calls himself Palestinian here.

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      • Hello Palestinian and JohnW,

        You do remember that this post is about an Israeli citizen denied the right to confront original evidence in court, although that evidence was derived from public media, just in Arabic? Denied the right to confront evidence. An Israeli citizen.

        Just a reminder.

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    5. Nick Adler

      The news about the failure of the apartheid regime hit the mainstream news just this week (16th Oct 2013)

      Two mainstream reports, one of them probably false.

      The surprising reason Israelis are fleeing in droves – Economy …
      http://www.haaretz.com/business/economy-finance/.premium-1.552566 – Cached
      3 days ago … Israelis are leaving the country, but not because there isn’t enough work.

      Israelis fleeing from north and south, heading for West Bank hills …
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-fleeing-from-north-and-south-heading-for-west-bank-hills/ – Cached – Similar
      7 Aug 2013 … Study shows steady decline in Negev and Galilee, population hike in settlements;
      MK in charge of strengthening the ‘periphery’ blasts …

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    6. Vadim

      I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again – please do not conclude any conclusions from stories about the Israeli police.

      It’s (mostly) an incompetent organization of morons and imbeciles. In cases like these it’s really hard to separate stupidity from other causes for this event.

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