Comments on: Elections called off; Kadima joins huge Netanyahu coalition http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Mon, 20 May 2013 06:50:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: AYLA http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60536 AYLA Wed, 09 May 2012 07:29:16 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60536 Thanks, Noam. This place may just be even crazier than I'd thought. And it seems that whatever the government does, the people accept as permissible, simply because they did it, so it must be doable. Thanks, Noam. This place may just be even crazier than I’d thought. And it seems that whatever the government does, the people accept as permissible, simply because they did it, so it must be doable.

]]> By: Piotr Berman http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60471 Piotr Berman Tue, 08 May 2012 17:32:31 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60471 "There are intelligent people in the government, who understand well what Israel really needs. May be with Kadima joining the government, the influence of Dany Danon, Zeev Elkin, Moshe Feiglin and their ilk lessen..." Who are those people? Here you list those that are not. “There are intelligent people in the government, who understand well what Israel really needs. May be with Kadima joining the government, the influence of Dany Danon, Zeev Elkin, Moshe Feiglin and their ilk lessen…”

Who are those people? Here you list those that are not.

]]> By: Jack http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60442 Jack Tue, 08 May 2012 14:50:42 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60442 XYZ, Lol Obama and Abbas have demanded the same thing. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/obama-at-un-israel-should-extend-settlement-freeze-1.315315 - But sure Obama have understand that he cannot change the middle east due aipac and israeli peace rejectionism. And just because of that he have not approved a war on Iran like that warmonger netanyahu wants. XYZ,
Lol Obama and Abbas have demanded the same thing.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/obama-at-un-israel-should-extend-settlement-freeze-1.315315
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But sure Obama have understand that he cannot change the middle east due aipac and israeli peace rejectionism. And just because of that he have not approved a war on Iran like that warmonger netanyahu wants.

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60426 Rowan Berkeley Tue, 08 May 2012 12:46:34 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60426 Well, if you look at the next story along on +972, it's Larry Derfner saying that the idea of this is so that Bibi can stage his attack on Iran. I don't think Bibi really thinks the ayatollahs intend to nuke Israel; he just wants to attack Iran anyway. If Bibi does that, Obama will get dragged into the war, but it won't prevent him from being elected for a second term, because he will say he was always against it and tried to prevent it and is determined to play the damage limiter. So, not only Bibi but the entire US neocon policy crowd will take the blame, because the majority of USAians blame Israel for all the neocons' wars anyway. Well, if you look at the next story along on +972, it’s Larry Derfner saying that the idea of this is so that Bibi can stage his attack on Iran. I don’t think Bibi really thinks the ayatollahs intend to nuke Israel; he just wants to attack Iran anyway. If Bibi does that, Obama will get dragged into the war, but it won’t prevent him from being elected for a second term, because he will say he was always against it and tried to prevent it and is determined to play the damage limiter. So, not only Bibi but the entire US neocon policy crowd will take the blame, because the majority of USAians blame Israel for all the neocons’ wars anyway.

]]> By: XYZ http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60423 XYZ Tue, 08 May 2012 12:24:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60423 It seems like Obama has learned a lot about the Arab-Israeli conflict in the last 4 years. It has been reported that Obama spent hours on the phone trying to persuade Abbas to engage in talks with Israel or to make some sort of indication that he wanted a compromise peace agreement, all for naught. Thus, I think Netanyahu realizes that Obama has come to understand the true nature of the situation and that there is nothing he can do to accelerate the parties to a compromise peace agreement. It seems like Obama has learned a lot about the Arab-Israeli conflict in the last 4 years. It has been reported that Obama spent hours on the phone trying to persuade Abbas to engage in talks with Israel or to make some sort of indication that he wanted a compromise peace agreement, all for naught. Thus, I think Netanyahu realizes that Obama has come to understand the true nature of the situation and that there is nothing he can do to accelerate the parties to a compromise peace agreement.

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60417 Rowan Berkeley Tue, 08 May 2012 11:33:07 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60417 I put this comment at the bottom of the thread from May 5 about the Ben Kaspit story, because that seemed ike the first logical place for it, but here I shall ask the question again. Ben Kaspit wrote: “AIPAC evaluated that based on polls, Obama will also be the next president. Bibi knew not to go to the campaign when Obama is in his second term. It’s a dangerous gamble. Between Obama and Bibi is a deep loathing, and Obama might try to do to Bibi what Bill Clinton did to him in 1999, and what Bush Sr did to Yitzhak Shamir in 1992.” But now Netanyahu has extended his government back to its original length, i.e. until Oct 2013. Does this mean Netanyahu thinks Romney will win in Nov 2012, or that he just doesn’t feel threatened by anything Obama might try to do to him during a second term? I put this comment at the bottom of the thread from May 5 about the Ben Kaspit story, because that seemed ike the first logical place for it, but here I shall ask the question again. Ben Kaspit wrote: “AIPAC evaluated that based on polls, Obama will also be the next president. Bibi knew not to go to the campaign when Obama is in his second term. It’s a dangerous gamble. Between Obama and Bibi is a deep loathing, and Obama might try to do to Bibi what Bill Clinton did to him in 1999, and what Bush Sr did to Yitzhak Shamir in 1992.” But now Netanyahu has extended his government back to its original length, i.e. until Oct 2013. Does this mean Netanyahu thinks Romney will win in Nov 2012, or that he just doesn’t feel threatened by anything Obama might try to do to him during a second term?

]]> By: Vicky http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60416 Vicky Tue, 08 May 2012 11:32:58 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60416 "Barak, Lieberman and Mofaz are all opportunistic enough to turn their coats again many times during the next 18 months." . Mofaz has quite a spectacular way of doing that, it would seem: . http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/380369_10150922992472040_687187039_12194846_512874725_n.jpg . Barely six weeks ago, too. Perhaps next time he will be a bit more discreet and subtle in the way he words his promises. This one comes across as very emphatic. “Barak, Lieberman and Mofaz are all opportunistic enough to turn their coats again many times during the next 18 months.”
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Mofaz has quite a spectacular way of doing that, it would seem:
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Barely six weeks ago, too. Perhaps next time he will be a bit more discreet and subtle in the way he words his promises. This one comes across as very emphatic.

]]> By: Joel http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60414 Joel Tue, 08 May 2012 11:17:26 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60414 I hope this means Bibi has become too greedy for his own good. Even if he got the whole coalition's support with Iran, there are so many domestic issues (already on the table and possibly/probably coming) that will split the coalition that he will have a helluwa time keeping it together. Barak, Lieberman and Mofaz are all opportunistic enough to turn their coats again many times during the next 18 months. And once he looses one, either the settler right or kadima, the remaining party will have a lot of power over him. . And heaven help if he manages to avoid all domestic issues, by starting a war with Iran... but I also can't see anyone participating in that getting re-elected (whenever the elections then can be held). . But mostly, I'm just gaping. Time will tell what happens. Any predictions are clearly on shaky legs. I hope this means Bibi has become too greedy for his own good. Even if he got the whole coalition’s support with Iran, there are so many domestic issues (already on the table and possibly/probably coming) that will split the coalition that he will have a helluwa time keeping it together. Barak, Lieberman and Mofaz are all opportunistic enough to turn their coats again many times during the next 18 months. And once he looses one, either the settler right or kadima, the remaining party will have a lot of power over him.
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And heaven help if he manages to avoid all domestic issues, by starting a war with Iran… but I also can’t see anyone participating in that getting re-elected (whenever the elections then can be held).
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But mostly, I’m just gaping. Time will tell what happens. Any predictions are clearly on shaky legs.

]]> By: ya3ov http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60411 ya3ov Tue, 08 May 2012 10:40:38 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60411 @RichardWitty Richard, is it clear for you yet that the two-state solution is over? @RichardWitty Richard, is it clear for you yet that the two-state solution is over?

]]> By: Richard Witty http://972mag.com/israeli-elections-called-off-kadima-enters-netanyahus-huge-coalition/44985/comment-page-1/#comment-60405 Richard Witty Tue, 08 May 2012 09:45:42 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=44985#comment-60405 In the third sentence above, that should be after the American elections. In the third sentence above, that should be after the American elections.

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