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	<title>Comments on: Is Twitter jargon pushing English to resemble Hebrew?</title>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re missing the fact that Hebrew (and other Semitic writing systems to some extent) have made vowels more explicit over time. Modern Hebrew shows many more vowels than previous versions of the language. More and more vowel letters (י, ו, ה, א) have been inserted over the history of the language. This is unsurprising, given that: historical distinctions between long and short vowels no longer exist; semantic and cultural change has blurred the relationship between words of the same root; and Israeli Hebrew is borrowing a lot of words from non-Semitic languages where vowels may more readily distinguish words.

Abbreviated writing forms are nothing new; however they were often correlated with technologies that limited space (expensive tools or reproduction methods). They are now much less frequent in edited works, because they can cheaply consume enormous amounts of virtual space, so it&#039;s not worth the increased ambiguity. Where the medium or editorial time is more limited, as in emails or SMS, abbreviations can be useful. And of course, there&#039;s the sociolinguistic aspect of this being a new, cool dialect in some contexts.

A lot of written English vowels no longer play the great role they used to. At least in my Australian English, a lot of vowels become what both Hebrew and phoneticians call a schwa. In terms of the phones that are actually pronounced prominently in my dialect &quot;regards&quot; might be best written &quot;rgads&quot;. But spelling has been fairly standardised for a couple of hundred years, and our new technology mostly furthers that standardisation (providing a red squiggly line when it reckons I should write &quot;standardization&quot; instead).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the fact that Hebrew (and other Semitic writing systems to some extent) have made vowels more explicit over time. Modern Hebrew shows many more vowels than previous versions of the language. More and more vowel letters (י, ו, ה, א) have been inserted over the history of the language. This is unsurprising, given that: historical distinctions between long and short vowels no longer exist; semantic and cultural change has blurred the relationship between words of the same root; and Israeli Hebrew is borrowing a lot of words from non-Semitic languages where vowels may more readily distinguish words.</p>
<p>Abbreviated writing forms are nothing new; however they were often correlated with technologies that limited space (expensive tools or reproduction methods). They are now much less frequent in edited works, because they can cheaply consume enormous amounts of virtual space, so it&#8217;s not worth the increased ambiguity. Where the medium or editorial time is more limited, as in emails or SMS, abbreviations can be useful. And of course, there&#8217;s the sociolinguistic aspect of this being a new, cool dialect in some contexts.</p>
<p>A lot of written English vowels no longer play the great role they used to. At least in my Australian English, a lot of vowels become what both Hebrew and phoneticians call a schwa. In terms of the phones that are actually pronounced prominently in my dialect &#8220;regards&#8221; might be best written &#8220;rgads&#8221;. But spelling has been fairly standardised for a couple of hundred years, and our new technology mostly furthers that standardisation (providing a red squiggly line when it reckons I should write &#8220;standardization&#8221; instead).</p>
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		<title>By: Dahlia Scheindlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahlia Scheindlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vicky - that&#039;s funny! Great piece, Mya. One point I don&#039;t quite buy - Fought&#039;s argument that English is prone to these changes b/c it is a borrowing language and therefore chaotic. But this is hardly unique to English. Many languages borrow and adapt to their immigrant populations, borderlands - and if not directly into their lexicon than precisely through grammatical constructions and combination words that you describe. Modern Hebrew is one such language...with influences from arabic, german/yiddish, french (and prbly more), and even its own fluid evolution creating and discarding new words and forms all the time. I am not enough of a linguist to know if English is a greater borrower (mutt) than others, but in general, I think that languages are not truly discrete packages but overlapping cultures - much like nations themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vicky &#8211; that&#8217;s funny! Great piece, Mya. One point I don&#8217;t quite buy &#8211; Fought&#8217;s argument that English is prone to these changes b/c it is a borrowing language and therefore chaotic. But this is hardly unique to English. Many languages borrow and adapt to their immigrant populations, borderlands &#8211; and if not directly into their lexicon than precisely through grammatical constructions and combination words that you describe. Modern Hebrew is one such language&#8230;with influences from arabic, german/yiddish, french (and prbly more), and even its own fluid evolution creating and discarding new words and forms all the time. I am not enough of a linguist to know if English is a greater borrower (mutt) than others, but in general, I think that languages are not truly discrete packages but overlapping cultures &#8211; much like nations themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, leaving out vowels only really works for Semitic languages, alas...


&quot;The first type of alphabet that was developed was the abjad. An abjad is an alphabetic writing system where there is one symbol per consonant. Abjads differ from other alphabets in that they have characters only for consonantal sounds. Vowels are not usually marked in abjads.
All known abjads (except maybe Tifinagh) belong to the Semitic family of scripts, and derive from the original Northern Linear Abjad. The reason for this is that Semitic languages and the related Berber languages have a morphemic structure which makes the denotation of vowels redundant in most cases.
Some abjads (such as Arabic and Hebrew) have markings for vowels as well, but use them only in special contexts, such as for teaching. Many scripts derived from abjads have been extended with vowel symbols to become full alphabets, the most famous case being the derivation of the Greek alphabet from the Phoenician abjad. This has mostly happened when the script was adapted to a non-Semitic language.&quot;

Many other writing systems are syllabic, so one sign for ka another for ki another for ku etc. It takes time to learn, but once you have done that, writing is fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, leaving out vowels only really works for Semitic languages, alas&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The first type of alphabet that was developed was the abjad. An abjad is an alphabetic writing system where there is one symbol per consonant. Abjads differ from other alphabets in that they have characters only for consonantal sounds. Vowels are not usually marked in abjads.<br />
All known abjads (except maybe Tifinagh) belong to the Semitic family of scripts, and derive from the original Northern Linear Abjad. The reason for this is that Semitic languages and the related Berber languages have a morphemic structure which makes the denotation of vowels redundant in most cases.<br />
Some abjads (such as Arabic and Hebrew) have markings for vowels as well, but use them only in special contexts, such as for teaching. Many scripts derived from abjads have been extended with vowel symbols to become full alphabets, the most famous case being the derivation of the Greek alphabet from the Phoenician abjad. This has mostly happened when the script was adapted to a non-Semitic language.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many other writing systems are syllabic, so one sign for ka another for ki another for ku etc. It takes time to learn, but once you have done that, writing is fast.</p>
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		<title>By: sh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There used to be an alternative method to shorthand called speedwriting, which seems similar to what you describe, Mya. Thanks for reminding me that when I was young and green I saw ads for courses in speedwriting in the London tube that showed a sample phrase which was easily decipherable. I promptly began leaving out vowels when taking notes in English.
I just googled speedwriting. Turns out it was invented in Chicago in 1924 and it&#039;s slightly more complicated than I thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedwriting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There used to be an alternative method to shorthand called speedwriting, which seems similar to what you describe, Mya. Thanks for reminding me that when I was young and green I saw ads for courses in speedwriting in the London tube that showed a sample phrase which was easily decipherable. I promptly began leaving out vowels when taking notes in English.<br />
I just googled speedwriting. Turns out it was invented in Chicago in 1924 and it&#8217;s slightly more complicated than I thought.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedwriting" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedwriting</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mya Guarnieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mya Guarnieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dena, Thanks for reading. It was just a starting point for a discussion of the impact, or lack thereof, of technology on English. ;) The editor was Indian, by the way, and not in the US. But, point taken. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dena, Thanks for reading. It was just a starting point for a discussion of the impact, or lack thereof, of technology on English. <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  The editor was Indian, by the way, and not in the US. But, point taken. <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dena Shunra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dena Shunra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks a lot like shorthand to me, which is not Hebrew but more the jargon of U.S. business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks a lot like shorthand to me, which is not Hebrew but more the jargon of U.S. business.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Wheat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Wheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adopting the Shavian alphabet would fix all the spelling problems. Going back to Androcles and the Lion now. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adopting the Shavian alphabet would fix all the spelling problems. Going back to Androcles and the Lion now. <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel de França MTd2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel de França MTd2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mya It could be pusing to look like not only Hebrew, but Arabic or any other Semitic language, including old Egyptian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mya It could be pusing to look like not only Hebrew, but Arabic or any other Semitic language, including old Egyptian.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This used to be my Hebrew teacher&#039;s argument when I weakly tried to cling on to nikkudot. Her reasoning is of no help when the newspaper mentions &#039;a committed patriot&#039; and I get bemused by the apparent agricultural turn the article has taken: &quot;Mushrooms, how did mushrooms get in here?&quot;
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I will never be used to this vowel-free business. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This used to be my Hebrew teacher&#8217;s argument when I weakly tried to cling on to nikkudot. Her reasoning is of no help when the newspaper mentions &#8216;a committed patriot&#8217; and I get bemused by the apparent agricultural turn the article has taken: &#8220;Mushrooms, how did mushrooms get in here?&#8221;<br />
.<br />
I will never be used to this vowel-free business. <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, Mya.

Thx :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, Mya.</p>
<p>Thx <img src='http://972mag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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