Comments on: Is Netanyahu misleading his ministers on Iran?

By: kafantaris

kafantaris — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:09:30 +0000

It seems that our tolerance for dissent is not shared by our closest ally — one for whom we are now ready to start WWIII.
Apparently this ally also does not share our respect for freedom of speech. Just last week it raided two private TV stations, giving bogus reasons for doing so.
Or maybe it reasoned as follows:
When Palestinian TV is on, it shows Sesame Street.
When it shows Sesame Street, it shows Bert.
When it shows Bert, it shows it might be OK to be gay.
When it shows it might be OK to be gay, the TV censors monitoring start to come out.
When the TV censors come out, they get friendly with the Palestinians.
Don’t let your TV censors get friendly with the Palestinians.
Go raid Palestinian TV.

By: Mikesailor

Mikesailor — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:23:17 +0000

I find it curious at the utter lack of outrage as Netanyahu copies the Geotge W. Bush playbook which lead to the US involvement in the recognized fiasco of the Iraq war. As botht the Israeli and the US media adopt a jingoistic propaganda effort, masquerading as ‘patriotic’, to demonize Iran, the analogy to the lead up to Iraq are all too evident. The selected disclosure of ‘intelligence’ without offering any caveats is all too familiar. This whole escapade is a lie, yet the ‘man in the street’, unaware of any evidence contradicting the unwarranted assertions by the government is left in a state of anxiety which the same government offers to assuage by military action. The creation of, and pandering to, fear. For using fear and anxiety to create political advantage is a common tactic used by governments when domestically, things are ‘getting out of hand’.

By: Sol Salbe

Sol Salbe — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:56:12 +0000

It is in the Shabbat supplement as you can see in the attached photo, so it would be wrong to draw ANY conclusions from its lack of availability on Ynetnews.
http://velvetunderground.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%A3%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%93.jpg

By: Sol Salbe

Sol Salbe — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:03:22 +0000

JG, to translate something you have to have it. Ynet (Heb) & Ynetnews (Eng) are different entities to Yedioth Acharonoth even though they have a common ownership. The interview would have appeared in one of the weekend supplements of the latter. In four and a half months in Israel last northern summer, I did not see a single article from those supplements make it to Ynet, let alone Ynetnews. Can’t see why they will make an exception this weekend. A check a few minutes ago suggest that Ynet does not have it in Hebrew so it cannot be translated by them.

By: Mihai-Robert Soran

Mihai-Robert Soran — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:20:27 +0000

Attacks aren’t automatically war. Just see Entebbe.
Pre-emptive attacks aren’t automatically war (see UN Charta).
Basic Law states:
51. (a) The state may only begin a war pursuant to a Government decision.

(b) Nothing in the provisions of this section will prevent the adoption of military actions necessary for the the defence of the state and public security.

(c) Notification of a Government decision to begin a war under the provision of subsection (a) will be submitted to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Security Committee as soon as possible; the Prime Minister also will give notice to the Knesset plenum as soon as possible; notification regarding military actions as stated in subsection (b) will be given to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Security Committee as soon as possible.

51 (b) allows the PM with or w/o the “small/security cabinet” to start a war in the case of an emergency decision w/o consulting the whole cabinet.
51 (c) doesn’t request any involvement of the Knesset prior to the start of a war (ASAP is enough, and means: after the fact…)

This all doesn’t mean that Netanyahu is honest with his cabinet. Since he’s a narcissist paranoiac psychopath with a father complex , he’ll never trust anybody. But in Israel nobody can keep a planned attack on Iran more than 36 hours in advance of its start. Too many people need to be involved, including the civil defense.

By: JG

JG — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:08:37 +0000

But wasn’t Arad for war with Iran as recent as 2010? I’m missing the timeline here. Ynet did not yet take the time to translate the article into English.

By: XYZ

XYZ — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:53:11 +0000

IF it is true that Netanyahu is keeping his gov’t in the dark, this is following a long tradition of dictatorial Prime Ministers who refuse to share information. This is how the Oslo and Gaza/Gush Katif fiascos were foisted on the country….the Prime Minister (Rabin/Peres and Sharon) suddenly announces a policy without consulting his cabinet and then rams it through without discussion, with dissenters being threatened.
No wonder both turned into bloody disasters…