Comments on: Is Israeli annexation of Area C of the West Bank imminent? http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Sun, 19 May 2013 18:35:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Tom http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-106738 Tom Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:40:58 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-106738 The Israelis continue to steal land from the Palestinians and the world stands by and does nothing. It is no use looking to our governments to take any action so I call on everyone to boycott Israeli goods and companies. When you go to the supermarket check where the any food item is produced - if it is from Israel don't buy it. The Israelis continue to steal land from the Palestinians and the world stands by and does nothing. It is no use looking to our governments to take any action so I call on everyone to boycott Israeli goods and companies. When you go to the supermarket check where the any food item is produced – if it is from Israel don’t buy it.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-71563 Kolumn9 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:36:13 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-71563 @LS, there is no plan to depopulate area C. There is a plan to ensure that the Palestinian Authority does not exercise any authority in the area until after a permanent peace treaty. There is also a plan to ensure that the Palestinians do not themselves proceed to establish facts on the ground by setting up temporary tent encampments and then calling them villages, which is what happens in the South Hebron hills. @LS, there is no plan to depopulate area C. There is a plan to ensure that the Palestinian Authority does not exercise any authority in the area until after a permanent peace treaty. There is also a plan to ensure that the Palestinians do not themselves proceed to establish facts on the ground by setting up temporary tent encampments and then calling them villages, which is what happens in the South Hebron hills.

]]> By: LS http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-71387 LS Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:11:58 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-71387 Israel will depopulate area C of Palestinians before formally annexing the land so few if any will remain, at most a few thousand. The cost to Israel in maintaining them will be negligible and if they are offered Israeli citizenship their number will make little difference to voting patterns. In fact this plan for a full land seizure without having to take on the indigenous population as well should go down in the annals of fascism as a brilliant strategy. Israel will depopulate area C of Palestinians before formally annexing the land so few if any will remain, at most a few thousand. The cost to Israel in maintaining them will be negligible and if they are offered Israeli citizenship their number will make little difference to voting patterns. In fact this plan for a full land seizure without having to take on the indigenous population as well should go down in the annals of fascism as a brilliant strategy.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70437 Kolumn9 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:05:23 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70437 @Prometheus, at the moment the status quo is fine and annexation does nothing to solve the problems that you point out. When/if the status quo becomes untenable Israel can unilaterally establish its own borders through partial annexation and unilateral disengagement from everything outside those borders. Alternatively if the Palestinians unilaterally act to change the status of the West Bank, then it might make sense to annex large chunks for tactical reasons. In the meantime there are costs but no benefits to any annexation. @Prometheus, at the moment the status quo is fine and annexation does nothing to solve the problems that you point out. When/if the status quo becomes untenable Israel can unilaterally establish its own borders through partial annexation and unilateral disengagement from everything outside those borders. Alternatively if the Palestinians unilaterally act to change the status of the West Bank, then it might make sense to annex large chunks for tactical reasons. In the meantime there are costs but no benefits to any annexation.

]]> By: Prometheus http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70385 Prometheus Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:54:17 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70385 Status Quo is not fine actually. It creates tremendous number of problems in Israel, starting with expenses of checkpoints network, and ending with beaten international activists on youtube. It's bad for state, it's bad for business, it's bad for Jews and it only makes things worse for Palestinians. . Status Quo must be ended ASAP, otherwise Israel might face problems it will find very difficult to resolve. Status Quo is not fine actually.
It creates tremendous number of problems in Israel, starting with expenses of checkpoints network, and ending with beaten international activists on youtube.
It’s bad for state, it’s bad for business, it’s bad for Jews and it only makes things worse for Palestinians.
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Status Quo must be ended ASAP, otherwise Israel might face problems it will find very difficult to resolve.

]]> By: Prometheus http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70350 Prometheus Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:28:09 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70350 Actually to annex (part) of C territories is the best course of action in current situation. After uproar and fuss there finally be viable two state solution de-facto. Probably there will be land swaps. Passage from WB to Gaza is not a problem technically, and will certainly be implemented. Arab countries are too busy with their own (or brought upon them) problems. All the rest won't give a dime. Yep. It certainly seems that the Gordian Knot entangling Israel and to-be Palestine is going to be cut. . p.s. One State (apartheid or not) is not an option. At all. Only someone totally unfamiliar with Israeli (Arab and Jewish) view on the conflict could think of such nonsense. Actually to annex (part) of C territories is the best course of action in current situation.
After uproar and fuss there finally be viable two state solution de-facto. Probably there will be land swaps.
Passage from WB to Gaza is not a problem technically, and will certainly be implemented.
Arab countries are too busy with their own (or brought upon them) problems. All the rest won’t give a dime.
Yep. It certainly seems that the Gordian Knot entangling Israel and to-be Palestine is going to be cut.
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p.s. One State (apartheid or not) is not an option. At all. Only someone totally unfamiliar with Israeli (Arab and Jewish) view on the conflict could think of such nonsense.

]]> By: yeah http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70291 yeah Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:17:57 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70291 Of course, Israel is going to annex area C. Payback to Obama for flooding Israel with Africans. Of course, Israel is going to annex area C. Payback to Obama for flooding Israel with Africans.

]]> By: ginger http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70280 ginger Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:36:59 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70280 Don't miss the NYTimes article by settler Dani Daylan as he argues 'Israel’s Settlers Are Here to Stay' . http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/opinion/israels-settlers-are-here-to-stay.html?_r=1&hp . He's the perfect poster boy for the new hasbara line that we're hearing in the mainstream now - now that they are abandoning the obsolete hasbara line. Now we hear that Judea and Samaria have always belonged to Israel. The Levy Report is just a symptom/underpinning of the new hasbara . Israel can no longer play the charades about 2 state because Israel has simply advanced the Apartheid One State too far for it to be anything credible and not simply ridiculous on it's face. . . So now they're arguing for the Apartheid One State and trying to keep a straight face. They are ridiculous and should be laughed at and challenged at every opportunity Don’t miss the NYTimes article by settler Dani Daylan as he argues
‘Israel’s Settlers Are Here to Stay’
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/opinion/israels-settlers-are-here-to-stay.html?_r=1&hp
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He’s the perfect poster boy for the new hasbara line that we’re hearing in the mainstream now – now that they are abandoning the obsolete hasbara line. Now we hear that Judea and Samaria have always belonged to Israel. The Levy Report is just a symptom/underpinning of the new hasbara
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Israel can no longer play the charades about 2 state because Israel has simply advanced the Apartheid One State too far for it to be anything credible and not simply ridiculous on it’s face. .
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So now they’re arguing for the Apartheid One State and trying to keep a straight face. They are ridiculous and should be laughed at and challenged at every opportunity

]]> By: annie http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70202 annie Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:11:25 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70202 "All the PA has to do is pick up the phone and negotiations would begin directly." negotiations for what joel? didn't you read the palestine papers? the opportunity is always there for palestine to negotiate their own demise, there's no evidence israel will agree to anything other than that. would you like the hangman's noose palestine, or the guillotine? choose whichever but the settlements won't stop. how very generous of you and thanks for personifying the israeli offer, once again. “All the PA has to do is pick up the phone and negotiations would begin directly.” negotiations for what joel? didn’t you read the palestine papers? the opportunity is always there for palestine to negotiate their own demise, there’s no evidence israel will agree to anything other than that. would you like the hangman’s noose palestine, or the guillotine? choose whichever but the settlements won’t stop. how very generous of you and thanks for personifying the israeli offer, once again.

]]> By: annie http://972mag.com/is-israeli-annexation-of-area-c-of-the-west-bank-imminent/51956/comment-page-1/#comment-70201 annie Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:02:34 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=51956#comment-70201 "Each year, hundreds of Palestinians in Area C have their homes demolished by the Israeli authorities because they are unable to obtain permits for their buildings. In 2011 alone, about 1,100 Palestinians were displaced due to home demolitions by Israeli forces, over 80 percent more than in 2010, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said in a report. “The Israeli authorities claim that structures are demolished because they lack building permits. However, the reality is that it is next to impossible for Palestinians to obtain such permits, leaving them no option but to build without them to meet their basic needs for shelter,” Ramesh Rajasingham, head of OCHA in the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt), told IRIN." EU donors have applied: "So far, a total of 24 master plans have been submitted; four were technically approved by the Israeli government in January 2011, but no permits have yet been issued." they are annexing sans the announcement. israel has been stealing palestine since it's inception, this is no different. “Each year, hundreds of Palestinians in Area C have their homes demolished by the Israeli authorities because they are unable to obtain permits for their buildings. In 2011 alone, about 1,100 Palestinians were displaced due to home demolitions by Israeli forces, over 80 percent more than in 2010, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said in a report.

“The Israeli authorities claim that structures are demolished because they lack building permits. However, the reality is that it is next to impossible for Palestinians to obtain such permits, leaving them no option but to build without them to meet their basic needs for shelter,” Ramesh Rajasingham, head of OCHA in the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt), told IRIN.”

EU donors have applied: “So far, a total of 24 master plans have been submitted; four were technically approved by the Israeli government in January 2011, but no permits have yet been issued.”

they are annexing sans the announcement. israel has been stealing palestine since it’s inception, this is no different.

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